CICC, tinututukan ang artificial intelligence para sa digital forensics ng bansa

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00:00Research and Development Projects of the CICC regarding Artificial Intelligence.

00:06We will discuss this with Assistant Secretary Mary Rose Magsaysay,

00:11Deputy Executive Director of Cybercrime Investigation and Coordinating Center.

00:17Assec Magsaysay, good afternoon to you.

00:21Good afternoon to you, Nina.

00:24To all the viewers, is it still morning?

00:28It's afternoon already.

00:29Yes, did you have lunch already, Assec?

00:31It's afternoon already, okay.

00:32Did you have lunch already?

00:36Not yet.

00:39We are the same. Let's talk about work first.

00:41Because now, you are focusing on artificial intelligence for digital forensics and intelligence gathering.

00:52First, what is digital forensics?

00:54Can you elaborate on this, Assec, and your specific contributions of the CICC

01:00in your participation in the Scientific Working Group on Digital Evidence, a U.S.-based organization?

01:10Okay.

01:11So, we know that there are a lot of cybercrimes.

01:15How can we solve a cybercrime?

01:19We will collect the evidence, digital evidences, that prove that a cybercrime happened.

01:29What are these?

01:30Screenshots, emails, calls on the phone, logs on the computer and phone that show that

01:38there are things happening at certain times of the day and certain hours of the night.

01:45We collect all of these things and this forms what you call a group of digital evidences.

01:56Now, digital evidences are very important.

02:00We have a complaint center, Dial 1326.

02:08When you call there, it is not enough for you to just record what is happening.

02:14They will ask you for proof that the crime happened.

02:21A screenshot of you stealing money, you have a debt, you did not pay, someone paid you for an item.

02:29Your conversations can be screenshotted.

02:34That is a digital evidence.

02:36A picture of someone dying, stealing, or running around stealing.

02:41A person going in and out of a house, being caught by cameras.

02:44That is a digital evidence.

02:46I am in an agency.

02:49If our boss wants to know how we use our emails because the government owns the computer and emails,

02:59they can open it and when they get the contents, they call it digital evidences.

03:05How do they get this?

03:06The digital evidences are mirrored or extracted by the CICC.

03:13They give it to us and we prove it to be true.

03:18If it is true, we collect it and you can use it to have a strong case against the person who committed the crime.

03:29That is a digital evidence.

03:31Now, the extraction of digital evidences that we get from different places,

03:39from places where our data is hidden like your SIM card,

03:42that is where the data is saved.

03:44SD card, thumb drives, data facilities around the world, cloud, your computer, RAM.

03:54A lot of things are obtained by those who investigate digital evidences.

04:00Now, it is important that you give it to the right agency because if the person holding this evidence has no mandate to hold it,

04:11the chain of custody will be broken.

04:15There is someone holding it who is not supposed to hold it.

04:18Therefore, the digital evidence will be thrown away.

04:20Now, what is the path of AI in investigating digital evidences?

04:30Because there are a lot of cybercrimes now, tens of thousands happening in a day,

04:36the CICC has decided that instead of buying platforms and programs to investigate if this is true or not,

04:50especially the gossip, right?

04:52The men who are mad at the woman will send a picture of their girlfriend who is drunk.

04:57Okay, that is digital evidence against that person who has done that to you.

05:04That is what we call crimes against women.

05:11When you are a child, crimes against women and children, and the gossip cases, all of those,

05:18we need to have R&D so that we will not keep subscribing to expensive platforms

05:26that are made in other countries.

05:28We are the ones who developed this in the Philippines.

05:34That is why we are doing R&D so that we can save money and we can do this faster.

05:41That is why we have R&D in the CICC because if we do not buy enough, the government's money will be wasted.

05:50So that is the CICC.

05:52We are the ones who extract and analyze the digital evidences.

05:58We are the ones who bring it to the DOJ.

06:01We compile it and submit it.

06:04Then when there is a hearing, we also verify if the evidence is true or not.

06:15Asik, what are the challenges that the CICC faces in integrating AI technology in digital forensics,

06:28especially in its transparency and bias algorithms?

06:32How do you address this?

06:35Okay.

06:36That is why we are doing R&D because what we notice is that when we buy platforms in other countries

06:43to extract evidences, the people who made this are not Filipinos.

06:53Therefore, their ethical standards are definitely different from ours.

06:58They have biases.

07:00For example, if a child or a person is naked, it is not picked up by AI.

07:10What we do is white.

07:12If we are naked and we have color, we are brown, right?

07:16So it is difficult.

07:17These are the challenges that we see in the platforms that we buy.

07:23It does not fit with the digital evidences that we produce here in the Philippines.

07:32So that's one challenge.

07:34Definitely, the financial challenge has forced us to go R&D, to produce our own solutions.

07:41There are a lot of people who are studying to be in AI, to program AI platforms.

07:49That's what's good about the Philippines.

07:50It is not a challenge.

07:52Filipinos really know that the world is moving towards that because it is accelerating.

07:58AI studies something that is like a person.

08:07A program gives traits of a person so that when it looks at something,

08:15the eyes and the experience of a person are there.

08:20So it is right.

08:22It is more ethical, more localized.

08:26So it is okay for a lot of people to study into AI.

08:30In fact, Yusek Batapan talked about it yesterday.

08:34They are really going to the provinces to push people to study how to program into AI

08:40because we Filipinos are the source of manpower for technologies all over the world.

08:49So because we are already there, the Philippines is helping through the CICC.

08:56We have a representation in SWIG DE, Scientific Working Group on Digital Evidence.

09:00This is what is being done by the standards assumed by NIST in total for digital evidences.

09:10Its chairman is a Filipino from CICC, Mr. Lagui.

09:16In terms of other challenges, I think the other challenges would be that we don't have enough time

09:24to really lay the importance for us to be the lead in terms of AI in the whole Philippines.

09:34Internationally, we have already achieved that.

09:37We nominated the ADOC Committee on Cybercrime as early as January last year

09:44when they still did not understand what AI could do to things, including cybercrime.

09:49The Philippines pushed the agenda that our new treaty needs to look at

09:55the things that could affect the cybercrimes of the whole world involving AI.

10:01Because if we are using this for good, looking for crimes, assessing digital evidences,

10:08we are also being used against by cybercriminals.

10:12So, we need to prioritize, speed up, and increase the number of people who are doing good instead of wrong.

10:19Okay, Asek, Rose, one of your projects is to provide portable cybersecurity solutions

10:28for organizations that have limited technical resources.

10:33Please explain to us, Asek, what is this Network Forensics in AI Box Project?

10:42Okay.

10:43So, our Network Forensics in an AI Box,

10:47because we saw that the United States is supporting us,

10:53they are teaching us, they are showing us how to solve cybercrime.

10:57And you will see that there is only one person who has all the tools for digital forensics.

11:03It is only in one place, in one box.

11:06So, the police cars, when they put the phone number of the thief,

11:12they will find you right away, you will geolocate right away.

11:15That is actually AI who is doing that.

11:19Then, they are just looking for the person.

11:22So, all these things, even to find out the personality that might be involved in the crime

11:29can be done in one single dashboard, in a car, being used by one person.

11:36So, it is not just an organization.

11:38We are helping to increase this and make it cheaper.

11:42That is why we are developing it with BINILD.

11:45DOST will fund this.

11:48The funding will be given to BINILD.

11:50They are doing the study.

11:53Then, CICC will benefit from that study.

11:56So, after the research and development funded by DOST to BINILD,

12:02the results, the information, and the platform that can be done,

12:08actually, we are halfway there.

12:10CICC has already created its world's first digital forensics manual powered by AI.

12:19So, we used GPT on that.

12:22There are other initiatives that we are doing that I'm not discussing,

12:27but what's good about it, as I said, is that the Filipinos are good at it.

12:31The techs in CICC are good at it.

12:34We are front and center of all this creation of AI.

12:40From the standards with the SWIG DE, headed by a Filipino,

12:46the Chairman of AI for Digital Forensics in SWIG DE,

12:50we joined the ISO because there are still no standards there.

12:55So, we will include the standards on digital forensics to be ethical.

13:02We will know if the evidence we get is really true

13:07and if it was done in the right way or in the wrong way.

13:12We will know who is doing it.

13:16And also, all of these things comes up,

13:21the end product is that we have the ability in a box.

13:27It's like all of our police needs are there.

13:30Eventually, we don't need to go to the lab anymore.

13:33We will bring everything there.

13:34That's the process for everything.

13:35So, we're on that stage now to help the government solve cyber crimes.

13:42Thank you very much for your time.

13:45Assistant Secretary Mary Rose Magsaysay,

13:48Deputy Executive Director of Cyber Crime Investigation and Coordinating Center.

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