- 8/27/2024
24 Hours in Police Custody S00E20 Murder On Camera Part.1
Original air date - (10th January 2024)
Two men are found violently murdered outside a pub. Another is fighting for his life. Police are baffled, but in such a tight-knit community they're worried no one will come forward to help them.
Original air date - (10th January 2024)
Two men are found violently murdered outside a pub. Another is fighting for his life. Police are baffled, but in such a tight-knit community they're worried no one will come forward to help them.
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00:00There he is, look, and there he is, the man in the shell.
00:29Jesus!
00:46Yes!
00:47Give me the money!
01:07Hi!
01:08What's happening?
01:28Get out of the road, bro!
01:29Don't worry about me!
01:31Oh, yeah?
01:32Get out of the road, man!
01:42Don't let me go!
01:43Don't let me go!
01:44It's crucial that we find the truth.
02:07Question everything, believe nobody.
02:11It's almost a game of chess.
02:12Try and get him to sniff up.
02:14This is your opportunity, let's talk to him.
02:27Hey, Simone, speak.
02:28Quick, somebody's f****** dead.
02:29It's a tie-fight road now.
02:30Someone's f****** dead.
02:35Look, cars have been up and down.
02:36They've smashed all the cars up and they've run over someone.
02:39He's dead, he's in the f****** run.
02:41If they find out I'm on the phone to you, I'm in trouble.
02:44Make sure no one's coming down here.
02:46Close the road, close the road.
02:47Use the van, close the road.
02:51I can't hear what's going on.
02:53Go get me the medical bag.
02:55Hey, dude.
02:56Buddy, buddy, buddy.
02:58His name's Mason.
02:59They've been stabbed.
03:01They've run over, okay?
03:02He's got a stab wound to his neck.
03:04Can you tell me anything?
03:05I've got the phone call, so can you get here right now?
03:07All I've heard is that he got chased by a car.
03:11He's a cop.
03:13So he's got one, two, three, four, five stab wounds.
03:17One more six, I need units now.
03:19The sergeant's doing CPR on one of the males.
03:21He's been run over and he's been stabbed.
03:23He doesn't look like he's breathing.
03:25It's probably best if you don't see what's going on there.
03:27No, I can't leave him.
03:28What's his name?
03:29Patrick.
03:30Patrick, what's his surname?
03:31Howard.
03:33The other gentleman that I've got has been stabbed in the neck,
03:35stabbed in the back, and he's got two other stab wounds.
03:37Ambulance.
03:38Yes, the pink one.
03:45We didn't see what happened, but we just see his balls on the floor
03:48and the one in the pink jumper.
03:50He's screaming.
03:51My mate said you can clearly see that he, I don't know,
03:56his body just didn't look right.
03:57Yeah.
04:00You can see where the tear marks have gone over.
04:02Yeah.
04:04No, it's cool, mate.
04:07Who's that lay on the floor?
04:08I don't know.
04:09I'll find out.
04:10I'll come back to you.
04:11Who do you think it might be?
04:15What's his name?
04:16He's Pat.
04:27Yeah, we're here.
04:29OK, so you just focus on me and nothing else.
04:31Right.
04:33Can I ask you guys just to do a little walk round down that way,
04:35see if you've got any more victims here?
04:37We've got three at the moment.
04:39Who is that?
04:40Guys, can you do us a favour?
04:41Mate, who is that?
04:42We didn't know he was there.
04:44We've been trying to save them, too.
04:45I'll get that.
04:46We didn't even know he was there.
04:47You don't need to worry about that.
04:48We didn't even know he was there.
04:50He's been on his own that whole time.
04:53Is it Mason?
04:55Craig, Craig, Craig.
04:56Craig, Craig, Craig.
04:57Craig, come on, please.
04:59Craig, Craig, Craig.
05:03So we're 30-5.
05:05I'm going to call over.
05:11Craig.
05:12He's gone, isn't he?
05:16What am I going to do?
05:17I've got to go and get my mum.
05:20I don't know what to do.
05:27I don't know what to do.
05:44Two men were killed in Houghton Regis
05:46after reports of a person being struck by a car.
05:50Three men were found with stab wounds.
05:52Two died at the scene while a third was taken to hospital.
05:56The case is handed to Bedfordshire Police's Major Crime Unit
06:00and a double murder investigation is launched.
06:03They've had a tear-up, I think.
06:05They've been in the pub and something's...
06:07an altercation's occurred.
06:09Something said something, whatever it was.
06:12I have no idea.
06:16You OK?
06:17Yeah.
06:18So what have we got?
06:19Both the bodies are up there at the moment.
06:20Yeah, there is, there is.
06:22So both of them have been up there and the tents are over them.
06:27Any... Is there any blood spots or anything from knives
06:30cast off or anything?
06:31Not enough to interpret.
06:33Yeah.
06:34It's like I've pretty much finished,
06:36but we just need a pulse, a search team to go through.
06:39OK, brilliant. Thanks a lot.
06:41My role is Senior Investigating Officer
06:43to have overall responsibility for investigations
06:46and locking up the most serious of offenders.
06:49You can clearly see on the pavement where he's come up,
06:52obviously Ty's going for it,
06:54across the grass and then come off the other side.
06:57So, but unfortunately, it's just not covered by any CCTV.
07:00Yeah.
07:01To show us if they've hit him there.
07:03Can't see any pools of blood or anything.
07:05OK.
07:07Hi there, sorry to bother you.
07:09I'm just doing house-to-house in relation to the incident
07:11that happened down the road.
07:12Do you have any CCTV on the property
07:14that might have caught anything?
07:15No, I haven't.
07:16No?
07:17I haven't, thanks to that shot.
07:18Yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
07:19Did you see or hear anything?
07:21Basically, I just heard a screaming and a noise of the car.
07:25Yeah.
07:33Being a detective is something I always had an interest in.
07:36Probably watching films growing up,
07:38going out there looking for clues, being nosy.
07:43One of the bodies is lying in someone's front garden.
07:45Oh, fuck me.
07:47Inquiries have identified the third victim.
07:50What's the name of the two deceased, sir?
07:54So, we've got A.D. Fennelly and Patrick Howard.
08:01And who's the one that's critical?
08:03Mason Jordan.
08:05They have managed to save his life for the time being.
08:08We have officers with him at hospital.
08:10He's having operations.
08:12Obviously, if we get an opportunity to speak to him, that would be great.
08:16Detectives review body-worn footage taken at the scene.
08:22Is it Adam found in the garden?
08:24Yeah.
08:27That's horrendous, isn't it?
08:30It looks like he's run away.
08:32Like, he's been stabbed in one and collapsed, isn't he?
08:35He hadn't been involved in the Crown pub.
08:37He wasn't out with the others.
08:39He was with his mother, who lives in the area,
08:42and he just heard shouting and looked out
08:45and seeing that it was some of his friends.
08:47Minutes later, he's fatally stabbed.
08:56Yeah.
09:01Fella, stay here. Stay here.
09:04Listen to me. Speak to me.
09:06Get out of the area.
09:09Go ahead.
09:11There will be a number of community tensions and issues after this.
09:15Very soon, we might get members of the family coming in,
09:18and friends and stuff, so it might get a bit heated.
09:21Someone said that they're going to go to war.
09:27Hello, sir, how are you?
09:29Is there someone dead?
09:30It's a serious incident.
09:31Is there someone dead? That's all I want to know.
09:33Is there someone dead or not? Just to know.
09:35The story's all going around. I know a person.
09:37If he's dead, he's dead.
09:42SIREN WAILS
09:46SIREN WAILS
10:07Just before the briefing, literally had a call from the control room
10:12to say that a witness from the local area
10:16has said that a silver BMW
10:19and then a black Volkswagen Golf
10:22was driving erratically around the area at the time.
10:26Officers begin work to identify the drivers
10:29of both the BMW and VW Golf.
10:33KNOCK AT DOOR
10:34Hello, I'm so sorry to bother you so late.
10:36Have you heard or witnessed anything
10:38in relation to an incident that happened down the road?
10:41No.
10:42No? No.
10:44OK, the keys are here. Do you know anything?
10:48Nick who?
10:50What drove in the car?
10:52Nick.
10:54Knock the door and ask them who it was.
10:58A guy called Nick was driving a car.
11:02What do we know about Nick?
11:05I don't give a fuck about the grass.
11:08That's it, that's all she knows.
11:10Nick was driving a car.
11:17PHONE RINGS
11:18Hello, it's Redshift. Please help and help.
11:20Well, I'm just ringing in relation to the incident
11:22that happened at Houghton Road just early this morning.
11:25Right, OK.
11:26I was just wondering if you've got a name for the person that done it,
11:29cos there's a name that's going around.
11:31Can I speak that name?
11:33Yeah, it's Nick Patsworth.
11:36It was over a girl,
11:38and everyone's looking for this Nick Patsworth.
11:51OK, so let's have a look.
11:53CCTV is retrieved from the Crown pub
11:55where two of the victims, Patrick Howard and Mason Jordan,
11:58were drinking before the incident.
12:00I've got Mason coming into the Crown.
12:02And that's Patrick. Yeah.
12:04Don't see Nick Patsworth, haven't got him.
12:10Right, there he goes. That's Patsworth.
12:12OK, that is him.
12:14That's him there. Yeah, that's him, yeah.
12:16That's a really good authentication.
12:19Patrick Howard's brother was at the pub on the night.
12:34He went to the pub and he was drinking.
12:36He was just drinking, yeah.
12:41So he was in the pub.
12:43And he was drinking, and he was looking for the man.
12:45He was looking for the man.
12:47He was mid, or was already mid, of baby reveal.
12:50Mm-hm. And he was all there, everything was...
12:54Having a good night, having a laugh with him, you know what I mean?
12:57Nick, Pat, and Pat, they know each other.
13:03That's Pat. Yeah? Yeah.
13:05You can see he's, like, trying to square up there.
13:07He's just been a bit aggressive, isn't he? Dominating him.
13:11When he was in that pub, Pat was in the pool area,
13:14and Nick and Pat was absolutely having a good time.
13:16Having a laugh together, like,
13:18scrapping each other on the head, like, joking about having a laugh.
13:21But then, obviously, Mason, which is Pat's friend,
13:25he had a fight with Nick.
13:27I think it might have been over...
13:30The girl Mason was with that night, I don't know,
13:32somebody, I was hoping it was over a girl or something like that.
13:36You see a male, who we now believe to be Mason,
13:40have a conversation with Nick and then punch him in the face.
13:46Fucking hell, no!
13:50He gets pulled to the other side of the pub
13:52and you can't see him, he goes out of shot.
13:57And then Nick gets dragged through the bar
14:00and he seems very angry at that point.
14:04I remember he had drugs in his mouth and he was, like,
14:08in the phone sitting, basically,
14:11talking to him to calm him down.
14:14And then Pat and Mason leave the pub after...
14:19That's Pat? Yeah.
14:22That's the other Pat.
14:24A silver BMW leaves the pub
14:27and then a VW Golf leaves shortly after.
14:32Whilst detectives work to identify the silver BMW driver,
14:36records show that Nick Papworth is a registered owner of a VW Golf.
14:42So we think it's Papworth driving out of the pub with another car?
14:45And, yeah, they'd come out there,
14:47that's where they'd got in the barney, just round there.
14:50Right, OK.
14:5139 describes seeing three males shouting at that vehicle
14:56and that vehicle heavy revving.
14:58An early arrest is preferable.
15:00A suspect out there who's used extreme levels of violence.
15:03SIREN WAILS
15:08We've got lots of sensitive techniques that we can use
15:12that will help us identify where they are.
15:14Phones, vehicles, bank details.
15:16SIREN WAILS
15:22That door's open. That door's open.
15:24He's in there. Go, go, go!
15:26Police! Stay where you are! Stay where you are now!
15:28Don't move!
15:29On the floor! On the floor!
15:30Hands behind your back!
15:32Oh, my God!
15:33Please stop him!
15:35Oh, my God!
15:36Please, please, please!
15:39Nick, at the moment, mate,
15:40you're going to be placed under arrest for murder, OK?
15:43Do not say anything, mate.
15:44I'm just going to mention one question,
15:45so you can reach me later. I'm in court.
15:47Anything you do say, remember to give me evidence, OK?
15:54Nick, so I'll give you the grounds.
15:56It's the murder of Patrick Howard and Aidy Fennelly
15:59and the attempt murder of Mason Jordan
16:01on the 13th and 11th in Howard and Regis, OK?
16:04It's going to be Nick for murder and attempt murder.
16:06All right? So we can take you back to the police station.
16:09Police are investigating a violent altercation
16:12where three men were driven at and stabbed.
16:15What we'll do, mate, we won't get here. We'll stop here.
16:17Let me just search you quickly again, all right?
16:19Two died at the scene and another is in hospital
16:22with critical injuries.
16:35Yeah, I've got a...
16:36Hello, Robyn here speaking.
16:39Oh, that is good news.
16:42Ah, brilliant.
16:43OK, where's he bringing them to? Luton?
16:46Papworth.
17:00Evening.
17:02How you doing, mate?
17:03Not good. Not good.
17:05What's your name? Nick, that's Papworth.
17:06P-A-P-W-R-T-H-O-N.
17:09W-O-T-H.
17:11Offence?
17:12Two times murder, one attempt murder.
17:21So they've both left, one after the other.
17:32Hi, Claire.
17:34Brilliant.
17:36Yeah.
17:37The boss is with me, yeah, he's next door to me.
17:39But, yeah, I can let him know.
17:40Claire's just going to FaceTime me with the CCTV.
17:43She says it's really good, it kind of shows a lot.
17:46All right, so, well, it is...
17:48I hope you can see that. Is that all right?
17:50Yeah, yeah, we can see that. Yeah, that looks good.
17:52It's really clear.
17:53So, the VW we suggest is Papworth, OK?
17:57He's followed by the silver light-coloured BMW.
18:02So the first man you can see on the left,
18:04this is Mason Jordan,
18:05the guy behind the stabber.
18:08OK, and he gets out the silver vehicle, yeah.
18:10He pulls over.
18:12So this is Adam.
18:17And then Mason approaches him.
18:22Jesus, that is a proper attempt, isn't it?
18:25He gets stabbed eight times.
18:27He survived? Yeah, yeah, he survived, yeah.
18:30I think this is going to be Patrick.
18:35And then he's approached from behind by the stabber.
18:38Yeah, that's right, isn't it?
18:41So there's one clear blow and then a boot in the face. Yeah.
18:48So we've got two on the right here, two witnesses,
18:51cos they can put their hands to their head, they're in shock.
18:53Yeah. They're a little harsh.
18:59HE SCREAMS
19:03Oh!
19:05Oh!
19:06Yeah, he didn't get dragged, did he?
19:18Right, in the last 24 hours, have you consumed any alcohol or drugs?
19:21Yeah. How much do you drink daily, normally?
19:24About five to ten roundies, I drink, after classes.
19:27Five to ten roundies, yeah.
19:29Are you an alcoholic? Yeah. Yeah? OK.
19:32Have you had any drugs? Cannabis, I've been smoking.
19:34Oh, yeah, yeah. I had cocaine on the weekend.
19:39Do you suffer from any mental health issues?
19:41A bit depressed here and there, but, you know.
19:43So, are you diagnosed with depression? No.
19:46But you do get a bit low, yeah? Yeah, I'm low.
19:48How are you feeling now?
19:50I don't know.
19:59When you say, don't know, mate, are you feeling like you're going to do it?
20:02Shit. I'm feeling shit. You're feeling shit?
20:04Is that because of the circumstances you find yourself in?
20:07Yeah. Door? That's what...
20:09That's my daughter.
20:11You're just thinking about your daughter?
20:13Yeah. Oh, she's gone.
20:15Right, OK.
20:16It's what I've heard at the moment.
20:21Can you tell him what?
20:22Can you watch him just until an officer comes, mate?
20:26Just cos how he was saying, he's feeling really quite low lately
20:29and everything else.
20:30If you want to speak to him, I'll speak to him.
20:44That key might be the key to the vehicle that we're in at the moment.
20:48Cos that came out of his jacket.
20:51Nick Papworth, VW Golf,
20:53wasn't at the address where he was arrested.
20:56And the silver BMW, driven by the man who stabbed all three victims,
21:00still can't be identified.
21:06To try and find out who was involved in the fight,
21:09detectives continue to scrutinise CCTV.
21:15This vehicle comes into shot on the drive.
21:19OK.
21:20We can't say that that is not the car that drives him over, can we?
21:24Curtis Long comes from the direction where Patrick had been dragged.
21:29Yeah.
21:30Well, I think we need to get in and get that vehicle, don't we?
21:33Because any forensic thing, we need to get that and say,
21:36there's no marks on it, blood or anything else like that.
21:39Then with weather like this, any forensic evidence is going, isn't it?
21:42Yeah. So it might be a quick hit to go after him.
21:45We're moving forward from the address now.
21:47We've just pulled out of Croft.
21:53House in the corner. Strike, strike, strike.
21:56BEEPING
21:57Stay where you are! Stay where you are!
21:59Telephone, telephone!
22:01Stay where you are!
22:02I haven't done nothing! I'm not doing nothing!
22:05I'm not doing anything!
22:06Stay where you are!
22:07Stay where you are!
22:09Stay where you are!
22:11Stay where you are!
22:12Stay where you are!
22:14I'm not moving nowhere, I'm not moving nowhere.
22:16What's your name?
22:17Curtis Long.
22:17Curtis Long.
22:18Yeah, Curtis Long.
22:19I'm just going from work.
22:20Curtis, on the matter now,
22:21you're going to be placed under arrest, okay?
22:22For what?
22:23For murder.
22:24Murder?
22:25Mate, I'm just going to mention one question.
22:25What do you mean murder?
22:26Anything you do say may be evidence, all right?
22:28Yeah, that's it.
22:30I'll give you the grounds in a second, all right?
22:36Your car keys.
22:38Your car keys.
22:39We're seizing the car.
22:41This is nuts, man.
22:48Action, yeah.
22:49I'll give you one, mate.
22:50Hi, Lee.
22:51Any chance of pouring your head to it?
22:54Amazing.
22:55If he's run over our victim,
22:57there'll be forensic evidence on or under that car.
23:02Following life-saving surgery,
23:04Mason Jordan is conscious and able to speak.
23:09Can you just tell me what injuries you've got?
23:12Eight stab wounds.
23:13One in the neck, one in the lung.
23:16A punch in my lung,
23:18giving me 600 milliliters of blood in my lung,
23:22which has now been drained out.
23:23Okay.
23:27There are two other people that
23:30we are going to mention in this interview.
23:33Both of them are your friends.
23:36Patrick.
23:38Patrick's last name is...
23:40Patrick Harwood.
23:41Harwood, that's right.
23:44Patrick's a school friend, like, from way back.
23:48He's family and my family, vice versa.
23:51Like, didn't know at the time we were here.
23:53We're not together.
23:55And Adam Fanelli.
23:56Adam Fanelli is my brother's friend.
23:59Obviously, he's watched me grow up,
24:00so we've got a relationship there as well.
24:02Yeah.
24:04Again, unfortunately, he's lost his life.
24:07And he wasn't even there.
24:08Well, there's Pat.
24:14How fast do you think the car was going when it hit Patrick?
24:1850, 60.
24:19I gave him some big boy speeds, Mum.
24:22Big boy speeds.
24:23Okay.
24:25A man had time to go up the road, turn round and drive.
24:31It wasn't no quick reverse.
24:33About two miles an hour, if you had time to go up a speed.
24:40Can you describe the driver for me?
24:42I can't.
24:43In any way at all?
24:44What's that all?
24:45Okay.
24:58How have you done that?
25:00I'm sorry, Mum.
25:04With both Curtis Long arrested and Nick Papworth in custody,
25:09the team can prepare for interview.
25:22Jacob.
25:23Hello.
25:24This is the long-school daughter of the founder.
25:28So, 0141, Curtis rings in.
25:33And then at 156, Papworth's calling Curtis Long.
25:43Yeah, possibly.
25:45To be my age and to be working in the major crime unit is rare.
25:48In fact, there's no-one else my age working in the major crime unit.
25:52I think that it can be disarming.
25:54Go on, Nick.
25:55My name's Jacob. I want to be the one interviewing you.
25:57I'll be overly friendly.
25:58Sometimes even before interview,
26:00I'll create a bit of comfort before the pressure starts.
26:04I just thought I'd come and say hello before we go in
26:06because I understand you're feeling a little bit shit this morning.
26:09I'm not surprised.
26:12It wasn't a well-thought-out murder that had been planned for weeks.
26:17It was rage and hatred.
26:22Nick, you all right to go?
26:23Yeah.
26:24Yeah?
26:25Marcus?
26:26Yeah.
26:27All right.
26:29And where that rage and hatred came from is hard to see
26:32because a punch in the pub isn't proportionate.
26:36The jump to killing them is unexplainable.
26:55Was it this way?
26:56Yeah, it was just this way.
26:59Detectives are about to interview Curtis Long and Nick Papworth
27:03on suspicion of murder.
27:06Right, Nick, are you responsible for the murder of Patrick Howard?
27:11No comment.
27:12OK.
27:13Are you responsible for the murder of Adam Fennelly?
27:16No comment.
27:17OK.
27:18Are you responsible for the attempted murder of Mason Jones?
27:22No comment.
27:23Are you responsible for the attempted murder of Mason Jordan?
27:26No comment.
27:27OK.
27:31These officers are going to be dealing with you, all right,
27:33so I'll leave you with them.
27:41Firstly, what I would like to do is, in your own words,
27:45I would like to ask you if you are prepared to tell me
27:49what happened on the early hours of the morning
27:52of the 13th of November.
28:00Were you in Tide Farm Road at 01.15 hours,
28:04or around that time, on the 13th of November?
28:07No comment.
28:08Did you run anybody over in your car at that location?
28:11No comment.
28:12Whether someone talks or not is up to them.
28:14At the end of the day, the evidence speaks for itself.
28:17But in a scenario where the person's going no comment
28:21and refusing to talk to you, it becomes even more of a game
28:24where what they don't say speaks quite loudly.
28:32My understanding is that following a verbal argument,
28:37you have been punched.
28:40Is that correct?
28:42No comment.
28:43You've been identified, you've been named.
28:46Witnesses have seen you being involved in a fight,
28:49and I think that you've got extremely angry
28:52because you've been disrespected in your pub.
28:55The comments you're making that have been heard by two witnesses,
29:00I'm going to get you, and you're going to fucking get it.
29:03I think that's you telling them what your intentions are.
29:08No comment.
29:09OK.
29:10Were you out to get them?
29:12No comment.
29:14Were you looking for them?
29:15No comment.
29:16Did you have anybody else looking for them?
29:18No comment.
29:21A no-comment interview, it's the safe way out,
29:24it's almost the coward's way out of they don't want to say the wrong thing
29:28so they just don't say anything at all.
29:33We have somebody else in custody in relation to the offences,
29:39a gentleman by the name of Nick Papwood.
29:42Do you know Nick Papwood?
29:44No comment.
29:45Spell that.
29:46Pap.
29:47P-A-P-W-O-R-T-H.
29:52And what we do know from call data in relation to your phone
29:58is that at 00.46 on the 13th of November,
30:05Mr Papwood calls you.
30:09Then at 01.14 hours, he calls you again
30:14and at 01.16 hours, he calls you again for a 47-second call.
30:23What can you tell me about those calls?
30:25What can you tell me about those calls?
30:37The Crown is your local pub.
30:40Within minutes of you being ejected from that pub,
30:44people are dead, people have been killed.
30:47Now, you might think that's a coincidence.
30:50I don't believe in coincidences.
30:53I think you're involved.
30:55CCTV will put you in the pub.
30:57Now is a good time to tell us what happened.
31:00Just to clarify, so you have got the pub CCTV, then?
31:06My solicitor is talking to you.
31:08I thought you'd been asked a question.
31:10No comment.
31:11It's being gathered?
31:13It's being gathered.
31:14OK.
31:16Any sort of response is good,
31:18any emotional response is good
31:20when you're doing an interview with someone.
31:22We see it a lot nowadays where people's loyalty and lives
31:27are put on the line for people in the same postcode.
31:31I'm going to turn off the recording.
31:36They won't talk to the police
31:38because they feel they have some sort of loyalty or a code,
31:42but at what point that loyalty and code
31:46means that you're taking lives and letting lives be taken,
31:50it's a weak code.
32:07With the first interviews complete,
32:09Nick Papworth is allowed a shower.
32:20Yo, Nick!
32:21Yo!
32:25OK, number 11.
32:27Shower with number 02.
32:30I know, bro.
32:32I know, bro.
32:34I can do it now, you know.
32:37But I don't know how you know that.
32:39I don't fucking know how you know that.
32:42I don't fucking know how you know that.
32:45I don't fucking know.
32:48Just enough of that, bro.
32:50This is what my business says.
32:52It's not what we say, it's what they can prove, bro.
32:55This is what I'm saying, bro.
32:57They can't prove you've murdered no-one.
33:00SIREN WAILS
33:13At the moment, the only thing with Curtis that I can see
33:17is a really loose joint enterprise, if he's out there hunting
33:21and is part of a crowd that, the minute you see him,
33:24call us and we're all to send them where they are.
33:27And he's come last because he's gone the wrong way looking for us.
33:31Yeah, I mean, he's got a bit... It's a bit loose.
33:34He's called within minutes of Patworth being thrown out of the pub.
33:38He needs to avoid any sort of charge.
33:40He really needs to talk, doesn't he?
33:42And explain his movements.
33:52No, I'm so sorry. I haven't done nothing wrong.
33:58But outside my family, I don't trust no-one.
34:01I've been snitched on.
34:05I've been set up.
34:07I've been put in positions where I shouldn't have been put in.
34:10And it's all by people that I thought were my type of people.
34:14Do you know what I mean? So, I don't trust no-one.
34:19I put faith in God, put faith in my family, and that's it.
34:23Is that him?
34:28Officers bring Curtis Long back into interview to question him further.
34:43Something has seriously got out of hand for whatever reason,
34:46and that's obviously what we're trying to find out.
34:49Is there any way that you can help us with that?
34:52No comment.
34:54Did you see what started this off?
34:56No comment.
34:59Did something happen in the pub?
35:01No comment.
35:07You seem upset.
35:10A few people have been murdered.
35:12I know they have. It's fucking sad.
35:14Yeah, it is sad. Absolutely, it's sad.
35:16And that's why we're trying to get to the bottom of what's happened.
35:19And that's why we were hoping that maybe you might be able to tell us
35:22if you've got any involvement or know of anything
35:26that may well have happened that particular morning.
35:30So that we can find the people that are responsible, because that's...
35:33Quick, I'm about to confide in myself, please.
35:35Yes.
35:50BIRDS CHIRP
35:58Police are investigating the murder of two men
36:01and the attempted murder of another.
36:04Were the plates on the vehicle?
36:06No idea if they were. I think it's been completely...
36:08Melted. Melted, yeah.
36:11A burnt-out car matching the description of the one used in the attack
36:15has been found just two miles away.
36:17That was sub-five. Interesting to see how they managed to light that.
36:27Look, where is your vehicle now?
36:34I can see you having a bit of a fit. Do you want...
36:37No problem.
36:39The best sign of someone being responsible for something
36:42is their actions afterwards.
36:44If anyone on a random Friday night decides they want to set their car on fire,
36:49then, you know, prove me wrong,
36:51but it's definitely a sign that he was well aware
36:54his vehicle had been used to run somebody over.
36:57The first clip of CCTV footage from the Crown Public House.
37:08Just while we're watching it, Nick, can you see yourself in the footage?
37:14No comment.
37:22You can clearly see Mason punching you in the face.
37:28And that's the start of the fight. That's what's kicked it off.
37:33Have you got any comments to make? No comment.
37:36We saw Patrick Howard. He's getting in your face.
37:41Did that annoy you? No comment.
38:01Right, CCTV that we've got...
38:04So, where is this? So, this is on Tyne Farm Road.
38:11HE SIGHS
38:34Are you all right? I'm going to stop it.
38:37Just play that again. Do you want to play it twice?
38:40Let's just do that again.
38:43And what car do you believe has done that?
38:46Well, that's what we're trying to find out.
38:50Is that your vehicle? You can answer that question.
38:52That is not my vehicle. You can see that's not my vehicle.
38:55OK. Do you know whose vehicle that is?
38:58No. Do you have any knowledge as to why that has happened?
39:02No.
39:08That vehicle turns round in the driveway.
39:11That vehicle, we've taken the registration number of your vehicle.
39:18If you have got nothing to do with this, OK,
39:22and you've come after it's all happened,
39:26then now is the time to tell us.
39:31I'm going to pause to consult with my client. OK. OK.
39:34BELL RINGS
39:38Officers analyse CCTV
39:41to establish the movement of Curtis Long's vehicle.
39:45I don't think Curtis's vehicle drives over it.
39:48OK.
39:50Because that's the camera where he turns and you get his number plate.
39:55It's there. OK.
39:57If you think here, and he first gets hit here,
40:01down to here, and that beamer comes this way,
40:05does a U-turn here and then comes back and seems to hit it really slowly.
40:10It just... The way he's driving doesn't fit with...
40:15..with sort of running somebody over,
40:17where it's obviously first guy, golf, quite clearly you can see him
40:21and then it's just bombed through the gas figure
40:24and dropped him off there. OK.
40:30I don't know. I think hopefully he'll talk.
40:32Even, I think, the first bit of it, he thought,
40:34oh, this is bad, and then the car. Like, I was watching his reaction.
40:37If he is friends with the other people involved,
40:39I would imagine he's probably not going to be friends with them for much longer.
40:47Oh, so it is? Yeah.
40:55See that video? It's crazy.
40:58That's crazy. That's horrific.
41:00That's some intense shit.
41:02Like, that should be a film.
41:05Do you know what I mean? Because that shouldn't be real.
41:09But, unfortunately, it is real. I know. And that's the problem.
41:12How did it come about that you are driving about at that time,
41:16in the morning, looking for people?
41:22You can answer that. I was looking for my friend.
41:25I was going back to his house.
41:27I was going to watch UFC.
41:29I started at one o'clock.
41:31So I was already late.
41:33I was going to stay with my son in bed.
41:39That's when I got a phone call saying about UFC and whatnot.
41:42After your vehicle turns onto the driveway,
41:46as we can see, it drives back down the road.
41:49And, obviously, he is already on the floor,
41:52having been dragged in the road.
41:55So when you drive past at that point,
41:57what can you tell me that you see?
41:59I think you can answer that.
42:01When I drive past, the only person I've seen is Mason just shouting.
42:05I genuinely had a thought in my head,
42:07do I help or do I leave?
42:09Help with what?
42:11Mason's shouting at the side of the road.
42:13I don't know what's going on.
42:15I know his son's mother and everything.
42:17I didn't want to be involved.
42:19OK.
42:21I've got to ask this question.
42:23When you drove down the road,
42:25did you drive over anything at all?
42:27No.
42:29Listen, I didn't run over no-one on that road.
42:31That's what you're trying to ask there.
42:33I didn't run over no-one on that road.
42:35OK.
42:37Did you see anybody else?
42:39No.
42:41I swear, if I saw that guy, I would have helped him.
42:45All right.
42:47I think we'll finish it up there for now.
42:49Anything else that you wish to add?
42:51Anything else that you wish to add?
42:53All right.
42:55The time now, according to my watch,
42:57is 22.33 hours
42:59and we will conclude the interview.
43:15Try and get a bit of rest.
43:21There's no justice in this justice system.
43:23There's no justice at all.
43:31They just haven't got no sense of things.
43:33They make rash decisions very quick.
43:35They want a result
43:37or they want to make the public feel like
43:39they've got a result
43:41when deep down,
43:43they've fucked up.
43:45Forensic examination
43:47of Christopher's body
43:49Forensic examination
43:51of Curtis Long's BMW
43:53confirms there is no evidence
43:55of an impact with the body.
43:57What was he doing over there still irks me.
43:59He's not, as far as we can see,
44:01taking an active role, really.
44:03Just maybe as his mate.
44:05Maybe there was some kind of loyalty.
44:07Yeah.
44:09He travels to the scene.
44:11It's difficult to know
44:13why he got into the car
44:15and what loyalties he felt.
44:17There's a mixture.
44:19A pair of hands, extra muscle, whatever.
44:21So he goes along.
44:23But actually, it's fairly obvious
44:25that he hasn't driven the vehicle
44:27that's run over Patrick Howard
44:29and he hasn't stabbed anyone.
44:37You have to be a little bit patient.
44:39It beeps before it turns off.
44:41And it's finalised.
44:43This is going to take a little while.
44:45I'm happy for you to go back to your cell
44:47when you're ready.
44:49But before you...
44:51I can't.
44:53Honestly, neither me or Marcus
44:55are even remotely in charge of that.
44:57I studied psychology
44:59at A-level.
45:01I'm definitely fascinated by
45:03psychopaths and the fact that they're
45:05able to do the things
45:07they do without feeling any remorse.
45:09With interviews,
45:11and trying to find out why they've done stuff,
45:13it becomes a lot more of a game
45:15because you can't rely on the fact
45:17you're going to get an emotional response from them.
45:19So it's almost a game of chess,
45:21trying to outmanoeuvre them and work out,
45:23trying to get them to slip up.
45:25I speak to my sergeant.
45:27He speaks to the inspector, blah, blah, blah,
45:29all the way up.
45:31And they make a decision
45:33on whether we're going to have another interview,
45:35whether you're going to leave,
45:37whether you're going to stay.
45:39But I wouldn't hold your breath
45:41on leaving.
45:43I wouldn't say so.
45:45See you in a bit.
45:59Detectives have been searching
46:01through hours of CCTV footage
46:03to see if they can find the driver
46:05of the silver BMW.
46:11Right, so this is the car park
46:13at the Crown pub.
46:15Right, there's this chap here.
46:17Puffer jacket.
46:21So he gets into that car.
46:25Footage from the Crown pub
46:27appears to show the car
46:29parked outside.
46:36Good morning, everyone.
46:38Firstly, a thank you to everyone
46:40that worked long and hard yesterday.
46:42Some excellent progress made,
46:44but a lot more to do.
46:46A second suspect,
46:48his vehicle is identified
46:50as one of the vehicles that's driving
46:52at the group.
46:54Following a review
46:56of the evidence,
46:58the Crown Prosecution Service decide
47:00there is insufficient evidence
47:02against Curtis Long.
47:06Who is the man driving
47:08the silver BMW?
47:10He is the stabber
47:12of all three victims.
47:19These people died
47:21because of you in this pub.
47:23You don't know me.
47:25You don't know how I'm feeling.
47:27Oh, police!
47:29Police!
47:31Police!
47:33Oh, police!
47:35Come and open the door slowly
47:37with nothing in your hands.
48:03Thanks for watching.
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