00:00We're film nerds, so whenever you get to a drive-in movie sequence and you decide to
00:06put The Shining up on screen, we all get a kick out of your choice of what film that's
00:10going to be.
00:11I'm just genuinely curious if there was a reason why you picked The Shining as the movie
00:14that was showing during the drive-in.
00:17I had that in mind almost at the very beginning of the production process.
00:24And I told the studio, I want to see on that screen a part of The Shining where Nicholson
00:33with his axe breaks through the wall and comes right at it.
00:38Because I basically created five different tornadoes.
00:42The first one was kind of like a pretty boy, beautiful, but not knowing what to do.
00:47The second one was basically always talking to each other, and that became the double
00:57water tornado.
00:58Another one was the big bully, and the second one, that was him.
01:03And I wanted to see him as the big bully as he comes through.
01:11And they said, oh, you never get that from Kubrick.
01:14But I had spoken to Kubrick once before, and he had, by that time, seen Speed, and he loved
01:24it.
01:25And he said, absolutely, you can do that.
01:27And no problem at all.
01:28And it was so great to really, because the studio actually didn't believe it.
01:32Because it was the same studio that represented his movies, no?
01:35Sure.
01:37And they said, no, you can't.
01:39Let me try it.
01:40And he said, absolutely.
01:43It was so great.
01:45Did you call him or write a letter?
01:47No, we had to.
01:49The first studio wrote very polite letters, but that's not how it really works.
01:54You have to really, and also, I mean, as my childhood, when I was still living in Amsterdam,
02:03the very first movie on the big screen I ever saw was 2001.
02:07I went to London in the first week of the opening of the movie, and I was totally blown
02:13away.
02:14That type of storytelling, that kind of visual storytelling, was so revealing, so new, so
02:21exciting.
02:22And since then, I've been an eternal fan of Kubrick.
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