00:00Okay, Mr. Rana, these news that you have started to circulate that obviously PTI, Pakistan People's Party,
00:07the distances between these two, which used to be said at some time that there is no question,
00:12there is no need to talk, it is a corrupt group.
00:14From Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, it used to be said about the People's Party, about you and about MQM.
00:19But now on this matter, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is also ready to talk to the Pakistan People's Party.
00:26Does PMLN see this as a threat?
00:56Mr. Rana's statement, the statement of the Chief Minister, or the statement of other people,
01:01that you are very respectable, Mr. Khurshid Shah, or other leaders there,
01:07so I understand that this doesn't mean that they become near to PTI.
01:16They know PTI, they will never go with PTI.
01:21In the last 10-15 days, there have been a lot of statements that PTI, as a political party, is not such a good party.
01:31Their statements have come with a lot of clarity.
01:34But what you are saying, now ask PTI that you keep spitting,
01:39you made the dacoit who you used to call the Prime Minister, you went with him,
01:45you made the dacoit who you used to call the Prime Minister,
01:48which of these did they not spit on?
01:51Tell me this.
01:52So don't even talk about them.
01:55They are just like this.
01:57Those who have been saying a lot of things, tell them that we have to talk to them, to the establishment.
02:03And what are their thoughts about the establishment?
02:06Mr. Rana, what you are saying is true that they take U-turns in a lot of places,
02:11but unfortunately this is a method of our politics.
02:14But you will also remember that the first time the Pakistan People's Party had to form a government,
02:19after the elections, it had also contacted PTI.
02:23PTI had refused, so that is a different matter.
02:25So now these opportunities cannot be completely rejected,
02:28that the Pakistan People's Party can once again come forward according to the Pakistan movement.
02:32Whereas there was some confusion from that side as well.
02:35So you are saying that their statements have come against PTI in the last few days.
02:41Is there no guarantee that the distance between these two parties will not end in the future?
02:46I have said very clearly that the Pakistan People's Party cannot work with PTI.
02:52Whoever says that this is not our issue.
02:55I was just listening to one of their MNAs, who was saying that we have no issue with them,
03:01we have an issue with PMLN.
03:03He was talking about the election.
03:06What is he saying?
03:07He considers them to be children.
03:09This is a very big party for them.
03:13They have a history behind them.
03:15They have fought for democracy and politics.
03:19They have made sacrifices.
03:21You know, like the Pakistan People's Party, Zulqar Ali Bhutto,
03:25Shaheed came forward, Muhtama Bin Zaid came forward.
03:28He considers them to be children.
03:30He thinks that if they don't do this, there will be poverty.
03:33They do wonders.
03:35They have talked so much that they are delivering it like MNAs for the first time.
03:43Mr. Rana, if this happens in the future, then I will get back to you about this as well.
03:48Because you have made a guarantee that it cannot happen.
03:51You have said a lot that the Pakistan People's Party cannot work with PTI.
03:55This is a guarantee, so this is a big thing.
03:57And if this happens in the future.
03:59Look, there was a guarantee on their behalf, but I was disappointed with their statement that there is no question.
04:02They will not go at all.
04:04I don't think they can go with them.
04:10But they have their own political or democratic talks.
04:14The talks that took place today.
04:16They have their own thought or approach on this issue, the ban issue.
04:23That it should not happen.
04:25Whatever they have said.
04:27I think it is a different thing.
04:30Whoever has said that the ban is not appropriate.
04:34It means that they will have to go with them.
04:36Mr. Rana, please clarify this point as well.
04:40Mr. Zardari, the President, who was still supporting PMLN unconditionally.
04:45He is saying that the government is not working with PMLN.
04:48And we know how to count and make a government.
04:51And we know that the People's Party knows this work very well.
04:54Is there any danger, any threat, any possibility of the government breaking down?
04:57Any further challenges to the government?
05:00No, look, Mr. Zardari clarified them.
05:04After that, there was no such thing there.
05:07They have the spokesperson or their sector information.
05:10The party's sector information, which I heard and read.
05:13But after that, I can tell you in 10 statements.
05:18We are not in the government.
05:21But we are supporting the government.
05:23And we will continue to support the government.
05:25These are their statements, of their leaders, of the big leaders.
05:28So, there are issues in this collation.
05:33On every issue, on their legislation.
05:36They can have a discussion.
05:39They can amend it like this.
05:41So, I think we have done such a legislation in the last few days.
05:46You will remember the meeting that took place in the Assembly one day.
05:50So, Mr. Naveed Qamar was his spokesman.
05:53Because he was the chairman of the Finance Standing Committee.
05:57He brought the report and recommended it.
06:00Which the opposition was doing a lot.
06:03At that time, the PTI was doing everything.
06:06So, I think these things can be done for discussion.
06:11But you should not look at it with so much depth.
06:14Mr. Ran, by the way, the numbers of the government have obviously decreased.
06:18At least two thirds of the population will not remain.
06:20If there is no restriction.
06:22If the situation is the same as that of the Supreme Court.
06:24The PTI of the Supreme Court.
06:26There was a community, is and will be.
06:28If you look at it in its context.
06:31Can there be any threats of movement of distrust in the future?
06:38Or do you see the government fulfilling its full term?
06:41Look, as far as distrust is concerned.
06:44I think you should rule out this option.
06:49Because our government has nothing to do with the PTI.
06:55Even if they have a number plus.
06:58So, there is no threat to us.
07:00It is a matter of two thirds majority.
07:02So, some amendments should be very important.
07:06In the constitution.
07:08Because there are some weaknesses in the system.
07:12Over a period.
07:14There is a requirement.
07:16So, if it had been done.
07:18It would have been better for me.
07:20There would have been better improvement in governance and other things.
07:22But if not, then the government is there.
07:24And by their coming.
07:26There is no connection of distrust.
07:28Then the People's Party should meet them.
07:30So, if the People's Party comes to that stage.
07:34So, what about distrust?
07:36So, what about distrust?
07:38We will say it ourselves.
07:40If you think that you want to leave us.
07:42God forbid.
07:44Because we will not leave.
07:46So, we will leave the government ourselves.
07:48What kind of thing are you talking about?
07:50That our number is not complete.
07:52So, there is no majority.
07:54And we have allies.
07:56If the allies say.
07:58God forbid.
08:00Imran Khan is not.
08:02The way he worked on distrust.
08:04So, if the opposition is right.
08:06Then they can exercise that option.
08:08But if our allies do this.
08:10That no.
08:12If we can't walk together.
08:14Then you know.
08:16No one can do anything.
08:18Right.
08:20Mr. Ran.
08:22What will be the steps of this discussion?
08:24What will be the step forward?
08:26Directly the Pakistan People's Party and MQM will be called.
08:28And the government level will be discussed.
08:30Or the party level will be discussed.
08:32Will Mr. Shahbaz Sharif be active in this?
08:34Or Mr. Shahbaz Sharif will be active in this?
08:36No.
08:38I think Mr. Prime Minister.
08:40Will definitely talk about this.
08:42To complete this.
08:44Definitely.
08:46And if something like this.
08:48Has come to light.
08:50Then we will take it on board.
08:52And whatever.
08:54Political parties.
08:56If they need it.
08:58Then we will talk about it.
09:00We are in this situation right now.
09:02And this party is working like this.
09:04We have all these reports.
09:06Or material.
09:08Which is very solid.
09:10Like the incident of 9th May.
09:12What more evidence do we need?
09:14That they did such a thing.
09:16Which was a rebellion.
09:18In the context of mutiny.
09:20That day it was the same.
09:22That somehow.
09:24They used to give a symbol of revolution.
09:26That we are bringing a revolution.
09:28These things have happened in these years.
09:30Which is sufficient.
09:32Material.
09:34To take this case to the Supreme Court.
09:36We have already talked about the Supreme Court.
09:38So unfortunately.
09:40There are two institutions at this time.
09:42Parliament or at least the executive.
09:44Government institution.
09:46And the court.
09:48It is clearly visible.
09:50There is no doubt about it.
09:52As soon as the court has a decision from the government.
09:54The arrows of criticism.
09:56If you take this to the court.
09:58On which you have already trusted.
10:00So how much hope do you have?
10:02That you will get relief from there.
10:04Or that court.
10:06Which has already said that PTI is a community.
10:08And it is a fact.
10:10Will it take such a decision to ban PTI?
10:12As far as it is in front of us.
10:14It is not in front of us.
10:16There are some decisions.
10:18Which you consider.
10:20They are outside the constitution.
10:22They are done from the city.
10:24For example, this is the issue of seats.
10:26These special seats.
10:28If they get it while living in them.
10:30So what is our objection?
10:32But you have seen that the constitution.
10:34There are two or three issues.
10:36Which has been rewritten.
10:38For example.
10:40The decision of the former Chief Justice Bandyal.
10:42Which was in Punjab.
10:44The defection of PTI.
10:46The decision he made in that.
10:48He also rewrote the constitution.
10:50So I think.
10:52If such decisions will come.
10:54There will be criticism.
10:56There will be comments on it.
10:58And the jurists will definitely talk about it.
11:00Who are still talking.
11:02There are big jurists.
11:04Lawyers.
11:06And there are former judges too.
11:08They have also said that this decision.
11:10His position.
11:12But that is a judgment.
11:14The judgment has come.
11:16Discussing the judgment.
11:18Discussing his history.
11:20All those things.
11:22Are not forbidden.
11:24But what you are saying.
11:26That when you go.
11:28With a case.
11:30So they will do.
11:32So I think.
11:34When they put the material in front of them.
11:36So it will not be.
11:38That their judgment has been criticized.
11:40They will see the material.
11:42And we hope.
11:44That they will do the same work.
11:46I don't think.
11:48There is any law.
11:50There is no war there.
11:52Mr. Rana.
11:54It was looking like this.
11:56After the last decision.
11:58There is really a war.
12:00And there is a lot of mess.
12:02Unfortunately.
12:04I want to know.
12:06If the decision comes.
12:08In favor of PTI.
12:10What will the government do?
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