00:00Thank you for the great answer, and I am committed to give me a chance.
00:08I am still the same as before.
00:10My idol, when I was a defender, I was with the respected ones.
00:16And those who are with the respected ones now become the government,
00:20they have been cruel to the respected ones.
00:22Remember that.
00:23Because of that, I ask a question.
00:27Is it true?
00:28Yes.
00:29In the past, they were cruel to the respected ones, but we defended them.
00:32I ask a question.
00:34Does the government see the normalization of the election culture
00:39as part of the start of the reformation of the constitution of Madani,
00:43as what happened in the PRK in Sungai Bakar?
00:45The people have given a signal, not only to us,
00:49but to all the executives in this government,
00:52so that we can make changes in the administration.
00:54For example, the announcement of the Prime Minister's resignation
00:57is related to two projects that will be implemented
00:59if PH wins the PRK in Sungai Bakar.
01:01The establishment of the Golden Citizen Activity Center
01:04and the construction of the SJKT school.
01:06Is this the culture that we want to carry out when we want to fight corruption?
01:10So that's my question to the respected ones.
01:13Thank you for giving me the opportunity to debate,
01:16to ask the respected ones directly.
01:18Thank you.
01:19Thank you.
01:20Please, Mr. Prime Minister.
01:21Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister.
01:22I have given this explanation repeatedly about the election.
01:28Even though I was continuously attacked,
01:30saying that we are cruel and did not give an election.
01:33All the election processes to the MPs in all democracies
01:40follow the process of voting.
01:42And I gave full mandate to the TPM2 to hold a discussion.
01:49And there is no condition that he must support the PM.
01:53There is no such condition.
01:55I have never introduced such a condition.
01:57But the discussion.
01:58As we did when we were appointed as PM.
02:05He was also represented by both parties.
02:07There was a vote of five or six times.
02:09Then when one or two issues were involved,
02:11I was always against it.
02:13And the PM was discussing.
02:15And then we decided and concluded.
02:18So I urge the respected brothers and sisters,
02:22if possible,
02:24please convey this to all MPs.
02:27And immediately hold a discussion
02:29so that this issue does not become an issue
02:32that heats up the temperature in this country.
02:36No need to run or jog.
02:38No need.
02:39He just nodded.
02:40The discussion is over.
02:42Secondly, about the election.
02:45We have decided in the Cabinet
02:48that on the day of the election,
02:52the Minister of Public Affairs or any agency
02:56is not allowed at all
03:01to use the government's power in the campaign.
03:06That is the decision I have made.
03:09In general, before this,
03:12I went to Sungai Bakar last year.
03:14That was before the election.
03:16I have allocated Rp 9 million for the mosque in Sungai Bakar,
03:20Rp 6 million for the Ministry of State,
03:23and Rp 2 million for the public.
03:25But that was a long time ago.
03:27But from the perspective of the respected brothers and sisters,
03:30I agree that as long as the name of the candidate is good,
03:33it cannot be used.
03:35If there is evidence that has been conveyed,
03:38of course we will take any reasonable action.
03:42I do not deny that both TPMs are on my side.
03:46If there is evidence where the ministers
03:52or government agencies
03:54use the government's power during the campaign,
03:57that is a violation of the decision of the Cabinet.
04:00Therefore, disciplinary action must be taken.
04:04That is why I can assure the respected brothers and sisters,
04:09because for me, it is related to the principle that we have brought.
04:14It is a culture of corruption.
04:16Therefore, we do not want this to continue.
04:19However, if the project continues,
04:23before the name of the candidate,
04:25I do not think it is necessary
04:29because the decision of the Cabinet,
04:31as long as the name of the candidate is good,
04:34it is not allowed.
04:37I do not deny that this is the decision.
04:40If there is a violation,
04:42the Cabinet must take disciplinary action
04:47because it is a violation of the Cabinet's decision.
04:51Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
04:53I accept your answer, Mr. Speaker.
04:56For a fair and equal election,
04:59the process of voting is necessary.
05:01And I agree.
05:02I agree that there can be no parliament or political leaders
05:05who are egoistic, arrogant, and do not want to vote
05:08for the benefit of the parliament and its people.
05:11And I hope that what has happened so far
05:14will continue under the leadership of Mr. Speaker
05:17and God willing, it can be continued as a good political standard
05:20in the future.
05:22However, Mr. Speaker, I need a little advice
05:25because I have also voted with Mr. Speaker.
05:29It was good that Mr. Speaker shared this matter last year
05:33twice in a physical way
05:35and through a letter three times.
05:38But I was informed that I need advice from the Cabinet
05:41and from Mr. Speaker.
05:44If I can be given advice,
05:46although not in this meeting,
05:49although written outside,
05:51it will help a lot.
05:52That's all I need advice.
05:54Even though it's not in this house, it's okay outside.
05:56Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
05:59Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
06:01That's good, Mr. Speaker.
06:04I was informed by TPM2 and Mr. Speaker
06:09to deliver an opinion.
06:11But our opinion
06:13is not to agree with the opposition separately.
06:17We do it as we did before.
06:20It's already there from the beginning.
06:22It means that the parameters are explained first.
06:26Actually, it's not easy, it's not difficult at all.
06:28I think there is a negative attitude.
06:32I was also elected as the opposition leader.
06:34At that time, I was also strong.
06:36At that time, the number of opposition was stronger.
06:38But I didn't feel inferior or complex
06:46to meet the Prime Minister.
06:47I met the Prime Minister's office and discussed
06:50and then appointed
06:53three from the opposition
06:57and three from the government.
06:59Three or five?
07:01Hello?
07:02Five, yes.
07:04It was a vote.
07:07I don't understand
07:09why this process is so complicated.
07:12It's still a vote.
07:14And the conditions are said to be in the usual process
07:18in any democracy country.
07:21The process is about basic principles.
07:25And then if you disagree, it's okay.
07:27We break it back.
07:28In the previous meeting, what I understood,
07:30I was not involved in the meeting.
07:31But when it was reported to me
07:33and those who made a fuss at that time,
07:35we investigated and there were some things that we agreed on
07:38and there were some things that we had to amend
07:40at the end.
07:42So once again, I think I have repeatedly mentioned
07:45our readiness,
07:47but let it follow the process in the practice of
07:50democracy in parliament
07:52which is practiced in all places.
07:54The opposition, starting from the opposition chair,
07:57the party representatives,
07:59must appoint representatives
08:01to discuss with the two TPMs that we assign.
08:05Thank you.
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