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Sam and Jack are back with another Boston Celtics podcast. In this one, they break down the Celtics' 106-99 win over the Dallas Mavericks in Game 3 of the NBA Finals. They discuss Xavier Tillman's big night, Jaylen Brown's monster close, and Luka Doncic's struggles. Plus, they talk about Jerry West, Dan Hurley, and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics!  Podcast Twitter: @HowBoutThemCs Sam's Twitter: @SamLaFranceNBA Jack's Twitter: @JackSimoneNBA  0:00 Intro 2:52 Celtics-Mavs NBA Finals Game 3 38:18 Derrick White extension 43:03 Email check-in 54:23 Jerry West passes away 56:19 Dan Hurley going back to UConn 58:00 Cavaliers head coaching candidates 59:55 The Rat List 01:08:48 Outro  #celtics #bostonceltics #celticsnews #celticsrumors #celticstraderumors #celticspodcast #celticspod #nbapodcast #nba #bostoncelticsnews #howboutthemceltics #neemiasqueta #alhorford #xaviertillman #jaysontatum #jaylenbrown #derrickwhite #kristapsporzingis #jrueholiday #samhauser #lukekornet #paytonpritchard #jadenspringer #oshaebrissett #svimykhailiuk #jddavison #jordanwalsh #joemazzulla #bradstevens #nbaplayoffs #mavs #mavericks #dallasmavericks #lukadoncic #kyrieirving #nbafinals #celticsmavericks #celticsmavs #celticspractice #nbafinalsgame3 #celticsmavsgame3 #celticsmavericksgame3

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00:00:00And we are back with another episode of how about them Celtics seminar here recording

00:00:14on Wednesday, June 12th, just before game three of the NBA finals.

00:00:18You guys are listening to this after.

00:00:19So obviously we're going to talk about game three of the NBA finals.

00:00:21You'll see if we're happy or sad in like a couple minutes here.

00:00:23But how are you doing today?

00:00:24Sam?

00:00:25How are we?

00:00:26How are we doing?

00:00:27We pumped up.

00:00:28Doing pretty good.

00:00:29Doesn't sound pumped up.

00:00:30I came in with the energy and it was just pretty pumped up.

00:00:34You know, Chris stops is a torn attendant in his foot that we don't know.

00:00:38We all thought was a nothing injury and then shams taught us a whole new medical term yesterday

00:00:44on Twitter.

00:00:45So we had to go and look at it.

00:00:46It was actually you.

00:00:47You were first.

00:00:48I know.

00:00:49They sent us a PR email and it was just a super long winded.

00:00:52I mean, you guys saw the yeah, let me try.

00:00:57I'm sorry.

00:00:58Torn medial torn medial retinaculum allowing dislocation of posterior tibialis tendon in

00:01:06his left leg.

00:01:07A lot of stuff.

00:01:08But Joe said it was a serious injury.

00:01:10Chris stops thinks he's going to play by the time you're listening to this.

00:01:12You'll know if we'll play and we'll talk more about it during the recap of the game.

00:01:15So we won't go too in depth here.

00:01:16But we did.

00:01:17We think he's going to play.

00:01:19We think he'll get to play.

00:01:20So we could look stupid or like geniuses.

00:01:22I hope it would be a little funny if we look stupid.

00:01:24But it's only funny if they win.

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00:01:29But up to anything.

00:01:30Any you know, before we get into the game, we have too much into the baseball game yesterday.

00:01:36Ran today.

00:01:37Just did work.

00:01:39Did some work work.

00:01:40Did some side work.

00:01:41I haven't shaved.

00:01:42I wanted to shave today.

00:01:43I never have time to shave.

00:01:44I want to shave.

00:01:45I see.

00:01:46It's tough.

00:01:47I've been in Dallas two flights to get here.

00:01:50Wasn't too bad.

00:01:51R.J. roasted me on Twitter saying I should have set up a heart monitor for the flight.

00:01:54I think I've gotten over it for the most part.

00:01:56I think I'm OK.

00:01:58Past couple of times because I've flown.

00:01:59I mean, I've flown more in the past six months than or eight months and a half in the past

00:02:03like five years.

00:02:06Other than that, I've been doing some like actual reporting for Celtics blog, which is

00:02:09weird.

00:02:10I talked to Tillman about Steve McIloo playing Luka Donchik in practice, talked to a bunch

00:02:13of players yesterday about what they do on the plane, stuff like that.

00:02:15Like a fun story.

00:02:16A plane one.

00:02:17Cool.

00:02:18Thank you.

00:02:19Thank you.

00:02:20I like to talk to the players and stuff because you can kind of just pull them aside.

00:02:22I talked to Luke for a little while.

00:02:23He's hilarious.

00:02:24I talked to Tillman and Sprenger, Drew Peterson, like all the guys, like it's just fun to like

00:02:28talk to them.

00:02:29As they win today.

00:02:30Yeah.

00:02:31You got to like as like the vibes are really good, like around like the open practices

00:02:35just come on the pot.

00:02:39Maybe.

00:02:40Maybe we'll see.

00:02:41I might have some other ideas that I'm going to ask tomorrow, depending on the vibes.

00:02:44But anyways, let's let's go over to a recap of Celtics Mavs finals game three, because

00:02:49that's what y'all are waiting for.

00:02:53All right.

00:02:54Seminar here after game three of the NBA final Celtics win in weird fashion.

00:02:59It was a weird game.

00:03:00The whole game, even the first half was weird.

00:03:02Played weird.

00:03:03Celtics went up.

00:03:04Twenty one blew the lead, held on, re-extended after Luka fouled out, man, three oh in the

00:03:10NBA final.

00:03:11Sam, at the end of the day, we're going to talk about it all, obviously, but the Celtics

00:03:14are up three oh in the NBA finals.

00:03:15It's an excellent day.

00:03:16It's a great day.

00:03:17It's almost a very bad day.

00:03:24Almost dive off your deck kind of day, but it's not.

00:03:27It's not.

00:03:28They held on.

00:03:29What did you read about earlier?

00:03:31Ben don't break.

00:03:32Yeah.

00:03:33Ben don't break.

00:03:34Clap back Celtics.

00:03:38The Celtics are actually one of those rulers.

00:03:41Remember the rulers you had when you were a kid that you can just fucking roll up into

00:03:45a ball or fold them directly in half.

00:03:49That's that's the Celtics.

00:03:52This was really an impressive showing on a couple of different fronts.

00:03:57First and foremost, big Tatum start in this game.

00:04:00Big head out of his ass moment.

00:04:02Great first quarter, first half.

00:04:03I think he had 18 and he really meant business right from the get go.

00:04:09And he set the tone for a meaningful performance to finish with 31 points, six rebounds and

00:04:14five assists.

00:04:16And he just kind of led from the beginning this I'm going to have to pull it up and look

00:04:21at the second half because I am a little curious, not quite up to the same standard as the first

00:04:26half was.

00:04:27But still, he played a really impressive first half and Tatum got things going for the team

00:04:31when nobody had anything going, Jalen Tatum Tatum's first half.

00:04:37Yes.

00:04:38No.

00:04:39Tatum's first half was awesome.

00:04:40He was made his threes.

00:04:41He made his threes.

00:04:43He was three of eight from three in the first half from that point on.

00:04:49Not good.

00:04:50Um, I know you mentioned on the broadcast, he said, uh, don't take setback threes.

00:04:55He did it.

00:04:56Nobody has a clip.

00:04:57Hey, you did leave out the part where he said, myself included, he said, end up my bad in

00:05:02the same.

00:05:03Oh, you found the clip?

00:05:04No.

00:05:05I saw the quote on Twitter, though.

00:05:06I saw the quote on Twitter.

00:05:07I didn't hear that part.

00:05:08I was too busy laughing by that point, probably.

00:05:13He went most of the second half without taking one.

00:05:15He couldn't help himself one time, but he has an addiction, dude.

00:05:21He's like, I was sitting with a friend that loves a parlay.

00:05:27I was sitting with Josh.

00:05:28I think it was Josh Rowe, Mavs, Moneyball, his destination maps.

00:05:32And I look at him.

00:05:33I go, you can always tell what Jason's going to shoot a three.

00:05:35He just got, I just heard him.

00:05:36I go, this is a three.

00:05:37And he just starts laughing.

00:05:38Step back.

00:05:40That first between the legs dribble is not something you like to see.

00:05:47If you see a big on Tatum with the lane and he goes between the legs, three buckets between

00:05:53the legs is a death sentence.

00:05:56All jokes aside, Tatum had a great first half.

00:06:00He wasn't as good in the second half, but he still made his plays.

00:06:02Jalen Brown turned up in the second half.

00:06:04I thought Jalen Brown had a phenomenal game in this one.

00:06:05He dished out the assist.

00:06:06He got some big buckets late.

00:06:10I'm not going to barely save your Tillman, man.

00:06:12Who would have thought we'd be talking about it?

00:06:16Tell me that's not the story of the game, though.

00:06:18Tell me that's not the story of the game or at least one of them in the story of the game.

00:06:22If they didn't make me want to kill myself for five, I still think it's up there.

00:06:26But even the blown lead, I mean, they want to.

00:06:28Yeah.

00:06:29What are you going to say about the balloon?

00:06:30Like they held on and won.

00:06:31Like, yes, it sucked.

00:06:32The offense went to shit.

00:06:33How much are you going to put emphasis into that when they still won the game and are

00:06:37up there in the finals?

00:06:38Like, Chris, I was saying this, all of us, at least I did.

00:06:40I thought he's going to play this game.

00:06:41I thought it and he didn't play.

00:06:44You were almost right at the start.

00:06:46You didn't think he was going to play that.

00:06:47I think I convinced you.

00:06:48But and we're going to look like idiots like four minutes ago when we said we think he's

00:06:51going to play.

00:06:52But he didn't play.

00:06:54Celtics are getting killed in the first quarter.

00:06:56Like Luka and Kyra getting whatever they want.

00:06:57They're blowing by the Celtics on the perimeter.

00:06:59They're going nuts.

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00:10:27Have you ever wanted to not play defense, Sam?

00:10:29Have you ever sat there in your chair and said, you know what?

00:10:32I just don't want to do anything today.

00:10:35I do feel that way all the time.

00:10:37May I present you the Luka water?

00:10:39Is that actually his water?

00:10:41For the first time-

00:10:42For the first time in your life, you could not play.

00:10:44Are you gonna keep that?

00:10:45I don't know.

00:10:47Why I keep it?

00:10:48I don't know.

00:10:49Why would you keep that?

00:10:50That's his water from an NBA finals game.

00:10:52Do you sell it?

00:10:53I don't know.

00:10:55keep it. It's like a trophy, especially in this series. The

00:10:59problem is you won't be able to fly that back. You'd have to

00:11:01check it. I know I can empty it. I don't need the water. You

00:11:06need the water. You gotta have the water. Is that Bobby? Yeah.

00:11:14Ask Bobby if you bring it home if you would keep that Bobby

00:11:17Sam wants to know if I should if I should keep it. He said

00:11:21you have to you do you have to keep that. No. It's like when

00:11:25we had Steve Pet on and he said he has like McHale's armband

00:11:28from one of the finals in the 80s. Yeah. No, I just know I

00:11:32showed Noah the water. She looks at me. She goes take it.

00:11:35Yes. You're you would not be crazy for that. That's like

00:11:40something you would tell your kids about someday be like hey

00:11:43see that fat slob over there. He actually wasn't drinking

00:11:45like sugar Gatorade during the finals. He did drink water.

00:11:49Well, he didn't drink much of it unless he didn't drink much

00:11:52unless this was the second bottle. Very true. Yeah, it's

00:11:56probably his like fourth bottle or whatever man Celtics up

00:12:00three and three on the finals up three on the finals Tatum

00:12:06Brown 35 and five like again Tatum's efficiency was great

00:12:10and then it wasn't as good but he he played the right way for

00:12:13most of the game. Well, ironically, it felt like he he

00:12:16was taking stupid shots when he was efficient and then he

00:12:18stopped taking stupid shots and then was inefficient. You know

00:12:20what I'm saying? Yeah, it is funny like he had a very

00:12:25dominant first half like he did a great job of driving,

00:12:28getting to the basket, stepping through traffic, and getting to

00:12:32his layups. He wasn't uncomfortable. Yeah. I kind of

00:12:35don't think he looked like what we talked about later in the

00:12:38show with Hugh where he looks a little bit uncomfortable and

00:12:42indecisive in game two. Tonight, he felt like he was

00:12:44very locked in. He felt like he was determined to get his

00:12:48looks. He wasn't afraid to put the ball up but I'll tell you

00:12:52what. He took a step back three with like two minutes left in

00:12:56this game when the Celtics were trying to seal it. I almost had

00:13:01to go over to the microwave. Jalen took one too. Jalen took a

00:13:05three at the top of the key if I remember correctly. He took a

00:13:07like a heat check like whack like Jalen took some pretty

00:13:10brutal shots in the first half of this game like it's like

00:13:14these two guys. They they have like a like a deal with the

00:13:18devil where they each have to play a putrid half in this

00:13:23game. I saw I forget who tweeted and I feel bad. It was

00:13:30like the Celtics, you know, the difference this year. Last

00:13:33year, the Celtics played three good quarters. Yeah. This year,

00:13:37they play three and a half good quarters. Yeah. That's that's

00:13:40the difference. Man. Oh my god. Sam Houser, by the way, who

00:13:46you crapped on at the start of this game when we do

00:13:48prospects. Very bad. Very bad take. This was I thought they

00:13:53were going to lose today and I thought Houser was cooked. I

00:13:57I didn't think he anything. He probably made three of the

00:14:00biggest shots in this game as the Celtics climbed out of the

00:14:03early hole they built for themselves. Shout out to

00:14:06Houser. He also got some great stops on defense. Happy to be

00:14:10wrong. I mean, I wrote about him before the series cuz he

00:14:12just had the most interesting like response to slumping. It's

00:14:15like I'm just gonna throw on some YouTube highlights of me

00:14:18cooking. He's got a new game. New game to look at. 14 minutes,

00:14:22nine points for him as a plus sixteen team high. Team high.

00:14:27Team high, man. He was awesome. I'm still baffled that we got

00:14:31Xavier Tillman minutes like really really important. That

00:14:35was another thing I was wrong about. Did we talk about we

00:14:38talked about on the pregame cuz we didn't do any Porzingis talk

00:14:41on this podcast. Cornette and I said Tillman. Yeah. Just I'll

00:14:45take it. I'll fade Sam today. I'll tell you what I had one of

00:14:48the most intense insurance bets of all time in this game. Oh

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00:16:57Josh. Josh Bowe. Um and then on my other side is Lauren Stow

00:17:02who writes for Fort Worth Star Telegram who I was like, I just

00:17:05talk with him, right? And Lawrence turns to me. I'm like,

00:17:08I'm like, hey, you never know. He goes, nah, this game's over.

00:17:10I said, you don't know the Celtics. You don't know. It's

00:17:14the Riddler meme. He doesn't know. They proceed to blow the

00:17:17whole lead. I turned to him. I go, what I say, he goes, yeah.

00:17:22But man, what? Janos. Hi, at Luca Donchich. Is hard for to

00:17:29be the fat guy and lose so many time. I know I am pant too

00:17:34tight most day but you are NBA guy is sad. You are complaining

00:17:37and fat. Thank you is Janos. Luca has been like unbelievably

00:17:43bad. Like I I'm I'm a little bit baffled cuz I was talking to

00:17:47again Josh who's like watch all the games and everything and I

00:17:50was talking about like the defense. He's like he was good

00:17:52in those first two series but then kind of trailed off in the

00:17:55Timberwolves and then later on and then Lawrence was telling

00:17:57me he's like everyone made this big deal but like he guarded

00:18:00Kawhi and Kawhi was very hurt. Like I don't think this was as

00:18:03good of a defensive performance and he has been like actively

00:18:07hurting them. I saw somebody say like um I forget who

00:18:10commented like when we did the grades and people were like uh

00:18:13last game and I said Tatum had a better game than Luca and I

00:18:15stand on it and people were like that's crazy. Look at a

00:18:18better game. You cannot have a better game than another player

00:18:21who puts up even like close to similar stats if you're that

00:18:25much of a civ on defense. Like it's it's unbelievable man.

00:18:30They're just walking by him and I there's something's gonna

00:18:33come out after the finals. It's like oh he was hurt but I don't

00:18:35care. If you're out there. Tweet is gonna hit. If you're out

00:18:39there, you gotta be able to be in front of guys and he and the

00:18:42for Fort Worth, the Celtics were not playing good defense to

00:18:45start this game. Like they were letting them go by him and the

00:18:48Mavs hit a couple tough shots like Kyrie hit some big threes

00:18:50like Luca hit a three whatever whatever but like they were

00:18:52just getting by him like and you really miss the KP interior

00:18:56presence and you could tell the Celtics had to adjust to

00:18:58playing without him behind them and they did. They did. Shout

00:19:03out to Drew. It's like that. I know. Joe Mazzola is Batman but

00:19:07he's actually Alfred cuz he's not out there playing but he's

00:19:10essentially the mind of Batman. Uh back to Luca. He's one of

00:19:16the most fun guys to just hate. He really is. I mean, he just

00:19:21makes it so easy. The complaining. Did you see what

00:19:23he did to Hauser? No. Earlier in the game, he like got a

00:19:27bucket on Hauser. He like dribble dribble step back over

00:19:29him and then he as he's running back, you can see it in the

00:19:32Dremberton. He sort of laughs, looks at the Celtic expansion,

00:19:34points to Hauser like like this is the guy you're putting on me

00:19:37and he just didn't score.

00:19:41I tweeted it. Uh I tweeted it. Literally, no, everyone tweeted

00:19:45that. I I'm insulted. He put a white guy on me thing and he

00:19:47goes, see, he's, you're not him, bro. Like, you're not this

00:19:50guy. No, but seriously, like, he is unbelievably bad and I do

00:19:55think he is playing hard for what it's worth. The chest

00:19:58thing, if he's getting numbing injections to his chest can't

00:20:01be great and it can't make it easy for him to breathe but it

00:20:06just doesn't help that he looks extremely out of shape and

00:20:09clearly is taking possessions off on defense. Yeah. Like, the

00:20:12Jalen, I think the Jalen Dunk at the end of the third, he was

00:20:17part of that. Ahman, hello. Sam says hello. The vlogs are so

00:20:24good, man. I am so, I'm so excited that I get to be part

00:20:27of the vlogs and it's even better now that I got to watch

00:20:30Luca follow the Celtics. Did you see yourself in the vlog

00:20:32the other night? I did. I watched it. I was like, did I

00:20:35make it? Did I make the cut? Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:38But yeah, watching them beat up on Luca is just so fun because

00:20:41we heard all of this stuff about Luca before the playoff

00:20:45series and you mentioned that those guys on the Mavs beat

00:20:47were talking to you and they're like, not all that impressed

00:20:51with it and it just comes back to like the same, it's the same

00:20:55equation that the Celtics get but the inverse. The Celtics

00:20:59are so good and consistent that when something goes wrong, it's

00:21:02a big story. When Luca's so consistently puking on defense,

00:21:06it's a big story if he tries. Yeah. Now, I got a question for

00:21:11you and we'll talk about other stuff after this too but you

00:21:15mentioned before like, does KP play in the series? You're

00:21:17talking about a pregame. Oh, he ain't playing. Now, I wonder.

00:21:22We might have had the same thought. Continue. If they make

00:21:25him available. Yeah and they just put him in. Just to trot

00:21:28him out there if they win the game. He gets to dribble at the

00:21:31clock. Yes, yes, yes. So, he gets to play in the in the

00:21:34clean clenching whatever. I did have that thought. I did. I

00:21:39also had the thought. I was like, well, what if I bought

00:21:41tickets to this game because I was watching the garden report

00:21:44and they were like, take a price to really dropping and I

00:21:48was like, I'm going to fly out. It's kind of my mom's job. It's

00:21:53not impossible for me to fly out there but as I take my dad

00:21:59for fun, I was like, if they lose, no. Yeah. Go all the way

00:22:03to lose. No. Maybe but if they do lose, then they come back to

00:22:06the garden and then. That, oh, I wouldn't go for that. Let's

00:22:12go on good old game time right now and I'll let you chat about

00:22:16whatever you'd like to chat about but I'm very curious to

00:22:19see what the entry price is to game five at TD Garden. Man,

00:22:24I'm going to guess on Gabe. Respect Gabe. He's good

00:22:28dealing. I appreciate you very much. God, I'll say $1100 to

00:22:36get in. What are we thinking? Like, I was going to go like

00:22:41950 but I think if it's a game. Get in price is 1264.

00:22:47Yeah. Not cheap. Damn, damn, damn. Rui was at the watch

00:22:53party. Did you see Rui on Twitter? Tee Garden was louder

00:22:56than American Airlines Center tonight. Did you see him in the

00:22:58um the 360 camera spin? No. That was sick. I have to watch.

00:23:04You gotta go look at it. Oh my god. The South Shore up three

00:23:06on the final sim. This is a great day. I mean. They've won

00:23:10ten games in a row. When when we talk about the playoffs all

00:23:15season. This is what I would like to see. This this is what

00:23:20I've been asking for is just I mean listen they almost kill me

00:23:23today but don't make me sweat when it comes to the series

00:23:26alright? Like you can **** with me from game to game if you

00:23:29want to. But but don't let it come to oh if they lose today

00:23:33they're done. You know? Like we just haven't had to put up

00:23:37with that this season. It's been a fantastic watch. I

00:23:39thought they were dead after game two against the heat. I

00:23:42can't lie to you but knock on wood. Also, great for travel.

00:23:46No game sixes so far. Yeah. It's been nice. Oh my god, man.

00:23:52Great opportunity for you guys to go out there and not get

00:23:55murdered on those fees, right? You're getting all the

00:23:58availability of the players. Knock on wood again but Derek

00:24:02White big shots in this game. Uh. Always. As always. He

00:24:05always. He always makes those. If you see it going up in the

00:24:07fourth quarter or five minutes or less, you know what's going

00:24:09in. It's incredible. And it's funny like the rest of the

00:24:13game. I was like, there was a point in this game where I

00:24:15thought to myself, I'm like, is Derek White still in the, I

00:24:17think it's going in every time he shoots a club. And Derek

00:24:21White has been, I don't want to say bad since the heat series

00:24:23but he's been less than ideal because the. Right. He's

00:24:27targeting on defense and he's the shots going in. What's

00:24:29gonna get lost on that Derek White shot? Drew Holliday made

00:24:31a **** sick play to get him that ball. I I wanna pull it

00:24:36up. That's gonna be one of my three things tonight at this

00:24:37game. I think I forgot to do. I know it's just been a million

00:24:40years since games. Um. Hold up. I wanna pull it up. That that

00:24:43was I don't wanna call it the play of the game. But it was

00:24:47like they were reeling. They really needed a three in that

00:24:50moment. Like they they were only up three with less than

00:24:53three minutes left and I I know it got to have the two at one

00:24:55point but like this was at a time where the Celtics were

00:24:58taking isolation shot, isolation shot, isolation shot.

00:25:00Drew Holliday himself took a really horrendous shot in this

00:25:04game too. A step back three on the wing like head and hands

00:25:06and what are we doing and then three minutes left. Drew

00:25:09Holliday pulls this off. Drew Holliday. Drives on Tim. On the

00:25:14drive. Kicks it back. Get out. Over and back. It's up a three.

00:25:17Bang. You know what pass? This reminds me of Jack. Can you

00:25:20guess? Which one? Is it? I'll give you a second to think

00:25:24about it. No, no, no. Oh. This reminds me of most random pull

00:25:31of all time. And you're gonna, yeah. I think it was 2015. Oh,

00:25:37yeah. Isaiah hits Crowder with a behind the head pass to the

00:25:41corner. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same pass. It's

00:25:43just at a different spot on the floor. Drew Holliday rocks man.

00:25:47I tweeted out today. You see him beads tweet? Yeah, I did.

00:25:52Bucks gave him a title. The Bucks subreddit might have to

00:25:56be its own video. Chat, let us know if you wanna see the Bucks

00:25:59sub subreddit video. Mav subreddit had some good stuff in

00:26:02there tonight too. Wow. We won't do any of that now

00:26:05though. We'll save it. I wanna I wanna look at all the reddits.

00:26:08I wanna look at the Heat subreddit too. Heat Twitter's

00:26:11going berserk. I know you. I know. Reposted something that

00:26:13was like just the sheer the sheer crying is unbelievable.

00:26:19I've got AA fun article that I might get. I'm gonna hopefully

00:26:22get out of practice tomorrow too. It's not like any like

00:26:25reflective anything. It's just like a funny thing that I'm

00:26:27working on. So, the vibes are high. Kendrick Perkins, the

00:26:29Celtics are set to have one of the greatest championship runs

00:26:33in NBA history. He's getting murdered online. Yeah, cuz

00:26:36you're, come on, man. You gotta know your, know, know your

00:26:39audience, know what you've done. Like, come on. He's he's in

00:26:43the villain article. Deservedly. He deserves it,

00:26:47yeah. We, I feel like we owe the people some more time on

00:26:51this game. We've just been like too happy to actually like

00:26:53talk about what happened. What? Like in the game. Like, we we

00:26:58had like a little bit of analysis but I think we've just

00:27:01been like gloating. Which is fine. I think that's what

00:27:03people come out for in a day like today anyway. Yeah, let's

00:27:05do, let's do 60 seconds of analysis right here. Okay.

00:27:08Get back to it. Yeah. Blowing the twenty-point lead was dog

00:27:10**** Offense. It was. Look, offense look like crap. They

00:27:13just took bad shot after bad shot after bad shot. Saved by

00:27:15that drew kick to the the three. Um defense was terrible

00:27:20in the first few minutes. Uh switching defense look great

00:27:23without KP. They really pulled that around. Uh I've got 10

00:27:26seconds of mine left and I'll give you the latter 30 seconds.

00:27:28Um I don't know if KP will play next game. Shout out Joe

00:27:32Missoula. Coach in a great series. Called that early time

00:27:33out. He he's really getting into it. Uh Derek White praised

00:27:36Joe Missoula as being a genius. So, go ahead. 30 seconds. Um

00:27:40thought Horford played really great defense tonight. He had

00:27:43that really, really tough possession on Kyrie. Yeah. When

00:27:46Dallas was down four in the closing minutes and he just got

00:27:49a great close out on his three and it hits the front of the

00:27:53rim. Who doesn't love to see Kyrie? Yes. Um big shout out to

00:27:56Tatum showing up, setting the tone in this game. I mean, we

00:27:59talked about it already but he was at the forefront of all the

00:28:02criticism and then Jalen, eight assists, three turnovers, big

00:28:06boy distribution game from Jalen. Who doesn't love him?

00:28:10One. End of analysis segment. Sam, the Celtics are up three

00:28:14oh in the Kyrie. This is wild, man. Lucky. This is crazy.

00:28:21Will, will Kyrie celebrate Father's Day with Lucky on

00:28:23Sunday? Perhaps. Listen, there's like Jalen said, job's

00:28:27not done. Nobody made fun of him for the Kobe thing. If

00:28:29Tatum said that, killed. Um. Tatum. Man. Just can't stop

00:28:33wearing that Kobe warm-up shirt. Just. Everyone wears it.

00:28:37Anyways, ten wins in a row. Fifteen and two in the playoffs

00:28:40now. Yeah. If they win on, what day is it? If they win on

00:28:45Friday. An eighty and twenty season, Sam. This is, this is

00:28:53why we play. Like, everyone's gonna say, oh, easy path to

00:28:58finals, blah, blah, blah, whatever. I don't care. They've

00:29:00lost. Yeah, it is an easy pass but it's like, it's crazy how

00:29:05much time we spent on those two losses. Like, how much like

00:29:07panic, how much and it was only cuz they were early in the

00:29:09series cuz it was like one one. We're like, oh **** oh ****

00:29:13Dude, they man. Man. Anyways. Um. NBC Sports Boston had the

00:29:22Luka post game. I don't know if you saw Max Letterman do a

00:29:26number on Luka. Next to Luka's name. Yes. More career finals,

00:29:31wins. Yeah. He's just so easy to like, like dislike. He's so,

00:29:38he's so unlikable. We thought they were gonna let him stay in

00:29:41because like the finals and. Oh. You say he pushed off a

00:29:44little but. I'm glad you brought this up cuz I meant to

00:29:47bring it up earlier and then I kinda got sidetracked. Yeah.

00:29:49When the Luka review was happening, I was torn whether or

00:29:53not I actually wanted him to come out of the game. Cuz he was

00:29:56a civ on defense. I said the same. Cuz he's so bad on

00:29:59defense. I was like, is this even good for the Celtics? Like

00:30:02they can't buy a basket right now. Do they really need to

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00:31:53way is public enemy number one for Mavs Reddit. Yes. Spoiler.

00:31:56Him and him and Kleber. Him and Kleber getting killed. Uh

00:32:01Kleber might still be hurt. Probably. Definitely. He

00:32:04looks. He doesn't wanna shoot the ball. I know he said it.

00:32:07Jalen, two big shots down the stretch, man. He he had an

00:32:11incredible second half. Need that. Need that. Need that. He

00:32:13said that's enough of that and he just took over the game.

00:32:16Remember when our like we did a whole pod on like how terrible

00:32:19the Celtics are in the third quarter. You know who loves

00:32:23that? You know who loves that? Um like point or point of

00:32:28emphasis, stat, whatever you wanna call it. Yeah. Hmm.

00:32:30Nobody loves that more than my mom. Yeah. How they're good in

00:32:33the third quarter. Third quarter. They're good now.

00:32:36They've been unbelievable in third quarters. Just they play

00:32:39bad. Oh, did she say, she says she thinks they're bad. Yeah,

00:32:43she loves it. Well, that was the twenty-two finals and not

00:32:46this year. Different, different. I thought I did

00:32:49have some PTSD to twenty-twenty-two finals today

00:32:51when I did too. I thought I was like II think I texted some

00:32:55group chat a minute and I was like, is this gonna be the

00:32:58second time in three years that they have the trophy in their

00:33:01hands and then let go of it? Doesn't look like it. We'll see.

00:33:08Man. One win, Sam. Did you see no con? No. Did you look hard?

00:33:19From where I was sitting, he was sitting behind the basket

00:33:21like I couldn't see him. I was just Taylor. Taylor Snow texted

00:33:29me. He he goes, did you see who's here? And I go, yes, I

00:33:32love you so much. Man. One win. I wonder if we'll get a day off

00:33:39in Rhode Island like everybody cuz I'm Zula. That'd be nice.

00:33:43Doesn't, what do you mean day off? Do people get a day off?

00:33:46Like, I don't know. I'm really joking but it would be funny if

00:33:49the state was like, nobody has to work cuz Joe Mazzola. Shout

00:33:54out Joe Mazzola, man. He's been, he's been so sick. You

00:33:59know what I'm looking forward to? Joe's smiling in a press

00:34:02conference. Yes. After they win. Is that what you're saying? No,

00:34:04I wanna see him at the parade. I wonder if Joe will turn into

00:34:08Mike Malone from Michael Malone from last year. Oh, man.

00:34:15No, dude. This is so sick. Just being here. Like, anyways,

00:34:22um any final thoughts before we we get on out of here? I feel

00:34:26like there's something else I was gonna say but I don't

00:34:29remember and so I think I think that's it. What? Somebody just

00:34:36posted a picture of the um the podium after the game with an

00:34:40empty seat. This person I follow just goes Luca Luca's

00:34:44defense is up at the podium. Turp was on TV. Turp was on TV?

00:34:49Not really but he so they left like the the stream going for

00:34:53what they used to like watch and he went up to record and so

00:34:55we just got this picture of him technically on TV. Funny story

00:34:59about that. So, back when I was at the news station, our

00:35:04cameras would kinda work in the same way where they'd always be

00:35:08on and if you went to record something, I believe there was

00:35:12a continuous live stream to the internet like there was an

00:35:15there's a section of the news website where you can catch

00:35:17streams of the newscasts. So, when I was learning how to do

00:35:21television, my buddy Matt, Matt the Rat would fill in at the

00:35:25anchor desk and and toss over to me and he was furious when

00:35:31he found out people could watch him live while he was doing

00:35:34that. It was a whole thing. He they told him and he was still

00:35:38on the camera. He goes, what? Give me, give me the **** off

00:35:42this thing and he's like realizing he's. Oh, Matt, Matt,

00:35:45Matt, Matt. Yeah. As soon as you did the one, I knew what it

00:35:47was. I didn't realize you could do this thing in Apple where

00:35:49you can crop people out and so I just cropped.

00:35:55That's why I do love everybody online being like this is the

00:35:58worst finals ever. I tweeted the thing. I was like, actually

00:36:01this is my favorite finals of all time. Dude, this is my

00:36:03favorite one. You know what? The the the craziest part is

00:36:05like everyone picked the Mavs in the series. Like all of ESPN

00:36:08like over half of ESPN picked the Mavs. The Mavs were favored

00:36:11tonight. I saw a tweet tonight. Not the worst point in the

00:36:16world. ESPN has this sports book now that you ESPN bet. Yes.

00:36:21And like they're like it's pretty shameless that they just

00:36:24push this Mavs team on everybody endlessly for 10 days

00:36:28before the finals and then they're promoting the gambling

00:36:30app and they're like hey everybody bet on the Mavs

00:36:33because nobody's talking about them and they essentially like

00:36:37baited people into losing money. Yeah. It is it is

00:36:41malpractice that people pick the Mavs in the series. I've

00:36:44said it so many times. I picked Mavs in five. I picked Mavs in

00:36:48five, right? Like I said that and and everyone was like that

00:36:51that was a hot take. They're up three oh. Dude, like this. You

00:36:54mean Southeast in five? The gap. Yeah, sorry. Southeast five.

00:36:58The gap in talent between these two teams is **** insane. The

00:37:02Pacers played the Celtics better than this. Infinitely

00:37:05better. Like so much better. Like the Cavs played the

00:37:09Celtics better than this. This Mavs team sucks. No, the Pacers

00:37:13were a real pain in the **** Like Pacers, the Pacers should

00:37:17actually get the Western Conference Champions Trophy

00:37:20from Dallas. Genuinely, how did this Mavs team get out of the

00:37:23West? The West was so hard. It's it's and and all the same

00:37:32people who pick the Mavs in the series, you'd be like, easy

00:37:34road for the Celtics, whatever. Like, you pick the Mavs. So,

00:37:36clearly, it wasn't that easy. Like, the Mavs circle jerk was

00:37:39unbelievable and the Luca and the Kyrie. Oh, he's so much

00:37:43more. He was good in this game. He's so much more mature now

00:37:46and you know, he's really a leader for this Mavericks team

00:37:50and then he has the two awful games in Boston. By the way,

00:37:54Kevin Love did part of my take today and they talked about

00:37:57Kyrie and he was like, yeah, that guy definitely **** hates

00:37:59Boston. Like, there's no secret. Yeah, sure. Of course

00:38:02he does. Obviously, he does. Always gonna and nothing wrong

00:38:06with owning it. Who cares? Yeah, who cares? Let him do

00:38:08whatever. Anyways, shall we get out of here and throw it to the

00:38:11rest of the show? Uh Celtics up three on the finals. Wow.

00:38:15Alright, we'll we'll see you guys for the rest of the pop.

00:38:19Alright, welcome back. We're here. Back to talk some other

00:38:22Celtics stuff. Hopefully, that was a fun recap and not a bad

00:38:25one but Derek White, contract extension. We're getting right

00:38:28into it. We're ready to rock here. We're not gonna waste any

00:38:31breath. Not gonna waste y'all's time. Uh this was the uh Mark

00:38:34Stein of the Stein line. Uh longtime NBA insider. It's

00:38:38always weird to like say Mark Stein of the Stein line cuz

00:38:40it's just it's just his name. Um he reported that Derek White

00:38:45is going to work or going to look for a contract extension

00:38:48from the Celtics this summer. I believe, I don't know if you

00:38:50wrote this in your article or if it was in the article uh

00:38:53that Mark Stein wrote but I believe the max he can get is

00:38:56just over 30 mil a season or 30 mil around their average annual

00:38:59value um which sounds about right for a player like Derek

00:39:02White on the open market. So, hopefully, he would rather stay

00:39:06in Boston than test free agency but it does sound like

00:39:08they're gonna work on an extension this summer. Yeah, I

00:39:11don't think anybody was doubting this but at the same

00:39:14time, there was a weird, is he gonna go look for more money?

00:39:18He's gotten so much buzz around him this season about his

00:39:21impact. There was the all-star thing before the selections

00:39:24happened and Derek White has become a household name over

00:39:29the course of this season. So, to speculate that he may go out

00:39:32there and test the waters and see if he's gonna get a big

00:39:35time payday says a lot about his actual decision not to do

00:39:41so cuz it feels like he could have went out there and maybe

00:39:43gotten paid a lot of money especially by these teams like

00:39:46you saw what Houston did last year. They paid Fred Van

00:39:49Vliet a bunch of money over two seasons. They paid Dylan

00:39:52Brooks more money than anybody thought Dylan Brooks would get

00:39:54cuz they just had Capspace. Capspace now works different

00:39:57than Capspace did 10 years ago where there's not a ton of

00:40:01names out there. So, Derek White could have very well

00:40:04cashed in on a big day but instead he chooses or is

00:40:07reportedly hoping to choose to stay with the Celtics. Sign an

00:40:11extension here and by signing an extension here for whatever

00:40:14the price tag will be, not as much as you can get as a free

00:40:17agent. It kinda solidifies his desire to be in the city as a

00:40:21member of the team. Like, that's not, oh, I'm gonna sign

00:40:25and get my money now and then request a trade type of like

00:40:28stuff. You know what I mean? No, I don't think that. That

00:40:31doesn't that doesn't sound like. I mean, it's off for him

00:40:33though. For him. Yeah, yeah. That doesn't sound like Derek

00:40:35White. Um would be great to see him back in action in Boston

00:40:39obviously like if they extend Jason Tatum and Derek White

00:40:41this summer that is a perfect offseason. They don't need to

00:40:44do anything else. They could do nothing else. They could just

00:40:46run back the same exact team as long as those two guys are on

00:40:48the books. Moving forward, that'd be a win for Boston. Um

00:40:51as things stand, Drew Holliday is under contract through the

00:40:55twenty-seven, twenty-eight season with the player option

00:40:57that final year. Jalen Brown's through the twenty-eight,

00:40:59twenty-nine season with no option on the end. Porzingis

00:41:01has two more years after this one. Tatum has next year and

00:41:04then a player option and I mean, like I said, they're

00:41:06probably gonna look to extend in the summer. Derek White has

00:41:07next year and that's it. So, they should look to extend him.

00:41:09Al Horford's the weird one. It it kinda feels like he might

00:41:12just play out his current contract and then retire which

00:41:14fair enough. He's thirty-eight at this point. Um Pritchett's

00:41:18under contract through twenty-seven, twenty-eight.

00:41:20Jaden Springer has another year to steal after this. O'Shea

00:41:23Berset does too. Jordan Walsh just three more years after

00:41:24this one. Like, they really locked up a lot of their core.

00:41:26If they can get a Derek White and Jason Tatum extension done,

00:41:28that is like, check, check, check, like checking all the

00:41:30boxes for this team and its longevity which is important

00:41:33cuz they're they're pretty good, Sam. I don't know if you

00:41:35notice. They're they're pretty good basketball team. I know

00:41:37they're a bigger fish, bigger fish to fry. Anyone ask Tatum

00:41:41about this? No, I don't think it's relevant enough yet.

00:41:47He'll get some, he'll, he'll probably get that question. I

00:41:49agree with you. The finals. Like, after they win, they'll

00:41:51probably ask him and he'll be like, what the hell? I, I agree

00:41:53with you completely. I just was thinking about the Derek White

00:41:56thing today because I had done the Celtics blog right up for

00:41:58it and I was like, huh? The only thing they really need to

00:42:01do to lock this team up like as a group is gonna be Tatum and

00:42:06I was like, did anyone even ask him about this but. It feels.

00:42:08Everyone's too obvious. Being like, hey, you suck. What do

00:42:11you think? I don't think since the Supermax has been a thing,

00:42:15I don't think there's been a player who has turned down a

00:42:16Supermax contract. Like, genuinely. Like, I don't think a

00:42:18player has been able to sign it and not signed it. So, I think

00:42:21it's just kinda like they're gonna. It is. Assume that he

00:42:24will and like you said, nobody has turned it down. Literally.

00:42:28It doesn't feel like Tatum hates it here by any means and

00:42:31would have interest in doing so. A player would have to

00:42:35vehemently hate the situation for them to not sign that much

00:42:38money and even if they did, they would sign it and request

00:42:41you. You don't pass up that amount of money like that. It's

00:42:44just. That's been the buzz around Mitchell. Even though

00:42:47now it seems like he's gonna stay cuz it's either him or

00:42:50Garland and it sounds like. Yeah. Just let him do whatever

00:42:52he wants and be a dictator in Cleveland but yeah, that was

00:42:56the buzz. Supermax then get out of here. Yeah. Anyway, I was

00:43:00about to say anyways and I'm gonna say okay but I'm a mess.

00:43:03Let's go to the email here. See what y'all had to say between

00:43:05games. A reminder as always, you guys can email us at HBTC

00:43:09pod at gmail.com again. HBTC pod at gmail.com. We have three

00:43:14today. First one from RJ. Um with love and respect. What's

00:43:18the sign of a good team? Morning folks. Time for a small

00:43:20reflection on an odd stat. Even with three-point shooting, we

00:43:23still think of ten points or more as a sizable lead. Ten

00:43:25points means the fastest way to retake the lead is that you

00:43:28have to hold your opponent scoreless while you make four

00:43:29three-pointers in a row. Not difficult but not the easiest

00:43:32thing to do either. And again, with everyone being willing and

00:43:34able to shoot three-pointers and getting double digit lead

00:43:36or falling behind by that much, it is an unusual occurrence in

00:43:38a game. This postseason Celtics have trailed by ten points in

00:43:41three of their in only three of their games. There are two

00:43:43losses and game three in Indy where the Celtics won through

00:43:45scoring at least five points in the the last five points in the

00:43:48final 39 seconds. I don't know where this ranks historically

00:43:52but I've got to believe it is a sign of a quality basketball

00:43:54team. Be well and let's win this thing RJ and noticer of

00:43:57weird things. Yeah, I mean, Celtics have been been pretty

00:44:00good. They're like historically, right? They have

00:44:02like the second best margin of victory over an entire season

00:44:06in postseason. Uh it's second ever behind the 96 Bulls like

00:44:10it's it's it's pretty **** good if you ask me. Yeah, it's funny

00:44:15that uh RJ brings this up. I disagree RJ. I've always felt

00:44:20like ten points is **** **** Anytime they're up around ten,

00:44:24I'm like, you know, I really wish they were up more points.

00:44:26So, I actually don't disagree. I completely agree with your

00:44:29angle but I feel like I haven't felt that a ten-point lead is

00:44:33safe in quite some time. Yeah. Um okay. Next email from Eli I

00:44:41believe. Uh rant correction LOL. Watch some more highlights

00:44:45and saw some uh some have the this is about his no finals

00:44:49logos on the court. Some have the logo on the court so I may

00:44:51be wrong about ABC taking it off but the fact that I can't

00:44:54remember it points how little of an emotional impact the logos

00:44:56have made on me. Another amendment I'd I'll still be

00:44:58there no matter what regardless of the aesthetic of the

00:45:00broadcast but as someone without the billion and a half

00:45:02dollars required to see the games in person, I prefer a

00:45:05better viewing experience. Let's **** go season four Eli.

00:45:09Yeah, the court the logos in the court would be cool. I

00:45:12like Eli actually tweeted us today. Uh just just retweeted

00:45:16it as we're recording this. Yeah and he he sent a screenshot

00:45:20of uh Greeny's tweet where Green was saying the same thing

00:45:23like the NBA has absolutely slashed what it used to be to

00:45:28have a finals court. Respect. Much appreciated. Thank you

00:45:33Eli. Uh next email from RJ again with love and respect.

00:45:37Trust Joe. Have fun and enjoy the game. Good evening guys.

00:45:39It's time you read this in the pod. I'll either look really

00:45:41clever or really dumb. Fortunately, I have no fear of

00:45:43looking dumb. I have no idea if KP plays Wednesday night and

00:45:46if he does, how effective he'll be. I do trust Joe to make the

00:45:49best call. I have no idea how Dallas fans will juice up the

00:45:52Mavericks or what Jason Kidd will roll out to try to

00:45:54improve his odds of winning but I'm confident the Celtics will

00:45:56play like they're having fun competing as a unit because

00:45:58that's what they've done all season long. Finally, I do know

00:46:01I'm going to enjoy watching the chess matches, the possession

00:46:03by possession matchups as well as the long game strategies

00:46:06because I'm a basketball fan and the Celtics have played the

00:46:08best ball of any team this season. I don't expect that to

00:46:11uh come to a screeching halt because a part of the foot that

00:46:13none of us knew existed 24 hours ago. Be well. Let's win

00:46:16this thing. RJ who is upset that he didn't take a long

00:46:19position on WebMD Stock Monday. How many people do you think

00:46:23this up on WebMD yesterday? A lot. Everybody. WebMD has to

00:46:28like rub their hands together anytime they see a major sports

00:46:31injury. Did you see um what's it called? Uh Tom Westerholmes

00:46:36post? What was it? Yeah, I did. I quote tweeted. It was like

00:46:4032 cases of this since 2006 and I just posted a video of Walter

00:46:45White falling to his knees. It's nuts. It's insane. ****

00:46:49bullshit is what it is. It's wild. Um okay, not an email but

00:46:52we have a DM uh from Hugh who messaged us the other day uh

00:46:58and he sent us an email. We're gonna share it on the pod. He's

00:47:01a long time listener and he he messaged us and said, hey, if

00:47:03you guys are welcome. It's on the sheet if you want the the

00:47:06long form thing if you were sharing screen. Okay, good.

00:47:10Here we go. Uh fellas, love the pod. Just started getting

00:47:13into podcasts a few months ago and this is one of my top

00:47:15lessons. I graduated from law school in May and I'm studying

00:47:17ten plus hours per day for the bar exam and this has

00:47:19single-handedly got me through the monotonous parts of my day

00:47:22when I can't when I can tune in and get away from uh

00:47:24everything for a minute. So, thank you very much for that.

00:47:26Appreciate you, Hugh. I'm glad we can help you. Thank you very

00:47:28much for uh listening and uh reaching out. For context, I am

00:47:34from Plymouth, Mass have lived in Boston the last 4 years. A

00:47:36lifelong diehard Celtics fans and no ball. I'm writing to you

00:47:39in hope and inquiry. I just listened to your player grades

00:47:41for game two and the Tatum grade for me is a B or B minus

00:47:43as well and I'm a little shocked at one subtopic uh that

00:47:46went unmentioned. I want to know if I'm crazy or seeing

00:47:48things you noticed or you noticed it too. There's

00:47:51something intangible about watching Tatum in the playoff

00:47:53sometimes specifically in the finals where I can feel his

00:47:56worry and indecision. Sunday night when he got the ball in

00:47:58his hands, many times, he looked hesitant, scared to

00:48:00shoot, and it was very reminiscent of the twenty-two

00:48:01finals for me. I don't know if it's the moment being too big.

00:48:04Jkid's comments, his ego getting in the way, social

00:48:06media narrators, plain old confidence, or none of the

00:48:07above. I'm not upset with him at all for his lack of shooting

00:48:10ability and actually the opposite where I think earlier

00:48:12in his career when he had bad shooting nights, he would take

00:48:14the rest of the game off, meaning not play defense, not

00:48:16rebound, not pass, and not even look for the ball really. I'm

00:48:18extremely happy and proud of him that he has grown in the in

00:48:20this regard and truly has stepped up in doing everything

00:48:23else right on those bad nights. So, I know to look in his face

00:48:25after he got the N1 layup to fall makes me so angry like get

00:48:28pumped up, man. Uh and then there's secondary one. Um let's

00:48:33see if I can open it if my DM will let me. Uh but there was

00:48:36something about this half second he had sometimes to pull

00:48:39up or make a pass and it just looked like he didn't know what

00:48:41he wanted to do with the ball. When during a regular season

00:48:44game, I've never felt that from him. I feel like his efficiency

00:48:46in shooting in the playoffs has never been consistently great

00:48:48again which is fine. Um which is again fine I should say. Um

00:48:52but I worry that it's much more mental problem than a physical

00:48:54one. Credit also to him because I think a majority of players

00:48:56may look indecisive when they're getting double and

00:48:58triple team but at the same time, he knew that was coming

00:49:00game two and I have no statistics to back it up. I

00:49:03just feel like as a former player myself, not at a high

00:49:05level. Uh and knowing the game and watching eyeball test wise,

00:49:08the confidence didn't seem like it was there nor is he exuding

00:49:10it. I am in Tatum's quarter and I think even if it is mental,

00:49:13it is something he can overcome and there is still a lot of

00:49:15room for him to grow. As he has recently become an elite

00:49:18amongst other things. Further, I think that if he can get a

00:49:20ring on his finger, all those negative and self-conscious

00:49:22thoughts may fly out the window and he can potentially

00:49:23ascend into a player that maybe no one expects him to ever

00:49:25be. I just wanted to know if I'm the only one seeing this or

00:49:28you guys do too if you think it's real. Real if it's an

00:49:30issue and if you'll grow out of it or this is if or if this is

00:49:33where we are going to live with for a long time. Thanks again

00:49:35and sorry for the length of this message. Sincerely, Hugh.

00:49:38Thanks, Hugh. We appreciate you. Thanks. Thanks for tuning

00:49:40in. Don't apologize. Um I think it's a mix of I think some of

00:49:45the times he hesitated and didn't shoot or pass

00:49:48immediately or knows he was cold, drove, and then it ended

00:49:52up being good things. He found a pass but II do think there

00:49:55were some of it that II truly think he's just like **** I

00:50:00need to win, man. Like II just need to win. So, I think he's

00:50:02hesitant like I don't want to mess this up. I haven't been

00:50:04hot. I'm going to try to find a pass and sometimes when they

00:50:06cut those passes off, he looks like he's hesitant and II think

00:50:08I was going to say before he even said it like I think once

00:50:11he gets a ring, all of that's going to go away and he's

00:50:13going to be very confident and he may still be inefficient at

00:50:15times but II do think there is AA inherent pressure of I just

00:50:20need to win it. Like I just need to do it. So, I I can't I

00:50:23can't **** it up. Well, I mean, I'm sure you feel this too but

00:50:29maybe less than me because you're more uh involved in all

00:50:33of it and you're less detached and you're there every day but

00:50:35I mean, I feel a pressure for them to win. I do as someone

00:50:40who supports the team. Like, I'm not making it about me but

00:50:43I can only imagine what it's like for Jason Tatum who really

00:50:46gets the the brunt of the criticism from everybody

00:50:49including me at times. He has a ton of the responsibility on

00:50:54his shoulders. He is seeing three to five defenders every

00:50:58time he goes inside the yard and yet he still remains

00:51:02somewhat level-headed. I do think he makes a pretty good

00:51:05point especially like thinking about some of the misses at the

00:51:09rim in game two like maybe that had a little bit to do with it

00:51:12like he's like I'm not really sure if I'm going up with this

00:51:15because when we did talk about the grades, I remember I was

00:51:18just like one thing I didn't love about this despite it

00:51:20being a good Tatum passing game was he loves to leave his feet.

00:51:25So, when he leaves his feet to make these kickout passes, I

00:51:28don't think he's entirely sure if he's gonna pass or go up

00:51:31which is fine. It's like a read option in football. You

00:51:33actually have to read the situation, see what the best

00:51:35play is, and make the, well, read but at the same time, it

00:51:40can become dangerous because if they cut off whatever your

00:51:44first option is, the second option becomes a panic. You

00:51:47end up turning the ball over, you smoke these layups, and

00:51:49then Bill Simmons and Rosillo talked about this on Sunday. He

00:51:53really didn't get into taking the mid-range pull-ups. Not so

00:51:57much the fadeaways that are ugly but like beating the first

00:52:00defender and before that center comes up to actually make an

00:52:05impact on you, taking the look because that's another element

00:52:08of the game that he could totally capitalize on and it's

00:52:11something in the past I know we have talked about in this show

00:52:13where when we talk about the math game and the three

00:52:16pointers versus the layups and you know, when I'm like, I love

00:52:19the mid-range shot. These are the spots you have to do it

00:52:23because I've said this to you before, Jack. You have to give

00:52:27the defense a third thing that they have to pay attention to.

00:52:31If they know you're not taking the three when you're Tatum,

00:52:33the way he's played in these first couple games, they're

00:52:36like, okay. Yeah, he's going to the ring. He's going right to

00:52:38the rim. Well, I think I've seen a lot of people talk about

00:52:41this and this has been something we've talked about

00:52:42like while we're traveling to like Tatum had that whole rant

00:52:45and Noah posted a video of it of or not a rant but like the

00:52:48whole conversation of man. I don't care what I have to do

00:52:50like I don't need to score like I just want to pass by the

00:52:52replay. I want to win and it got like 8 million views on

00:52:53her Twitter and everyone was like dude. You took the most

00:52:55shots in the team like what do you mean that's **** and I saw

00:52:58that but if he doesn't take the shots that he took the Mavs

00:53:02wouldn't send the same amount of pressure at him and he

00:53:04wouldn't like there's a balance to it. He's the best player

00:53:06which is why they are sending so many bodies at him which is

00:53:09why he's able to be as effective as he is as a

00:53:11facilitator but if he stops taking those shots and they

00:53:13won't have to guard them like he has to take that many shots

00:53:17and for what it's worth 22 shots is not like some outrageous

00:53:20number like it was a lot in the context but one I don't think

00:53:23he forced up to too much. I think there were a few that he

00:53:25could have done without whatever but like he averaged

00:53:28what in the regular season 21 like it's one above his

00:53:30regular season average. It's higher than his postseason

00:53:32average but like it's not like he took 30 shots. You know

00:53:35what I'm saying? Like II thought that was a bit

00:53:37overblown but I think Tatum would be alright. I mean I

00:53:40didn't there weren't too many chances in that game to win

00:53:46where I really felt like Tatum was forcing. I thought he took

00:53:50some really bad ones down the stretch. If you want me to

00:53:54point anything fourth quarter head in the microwave material

00:53:57besides that nothing too crazy. I the one that stuck out to me

00:54:02the most prior to that was halftime him not taking the

00:54:04shot. He had an open. Exactly. And I think this plays into

00:54:07Hughes message to us where he was like alright don't know if

00:54:11I should shoot this or not. I'm going to try and create

00:54:13something. Oh wait we don't have any time and then it's

00:54:16just eternal. Which is why it's such a tough balance like he's

00:54:18in the hardest job of the like on the team by far. Anyways

00:54:22let's let's go to the NBA here. Got a few NBA things quick

00:54:25hitters before we get to anything. First one

00:54:28unfortunately Jerry West passed away this morning. The

00:54:33logo came out of nowhere. I mean I woke up to it and I saw

00:54:37it and I was like in shock because like this wasn't

00:54:40something that you saw coming like it wasn't like oh he was

00:54:41sick or whatever and he might have been like but it wasn't

00:54:43like public information public knowledge. Man it feels like

00:54:47we're losing like so many legends like over the past two

00:54:50days and even in the past like month like Bill Walton and

00:54:53people are getting old. Jerry West it's it's brutal. It's very

00:54:56sad. That sucks. I mean that that whole era now I mean like

00:55:00just thinking back like Tommy had passed away in 2021.

00:55:05Havlicek had passed away in 2019. Bill a couple years ago.

00:55:09Yep. Bill Casey Jones uh Bill Walton. Uh Jerry West now Jerry

00:55:15West. I think Elgin Baylor passed away too. So like you

00:55:18know sadly that era is just getting up there in age and as

00:55:23we continue to go here and live on and you're going to see

00:55:26more and more of names you recognize being in those kind

00:55:30of news stories which is very sad and it's amazing how many

00:55:33people both Bill Walton since we didn't really talk about it

00:55:37when he passed away because it was just in a weird in between

00:55:40gap for us and Jerry West impacted like I saw people

00:55:43posting stories about Jerry West today. The Bill Walton

00:55:46stories we got last week or a couple weeks ago were

00:55:48unbelievable talking about the impact he had on everybody he

00:55:52met the Mike Breen one that Mike Breen told on old man or

00:55:55actually he told on part of my tape but it was a tremendous

00:55:58story about his father. Anyway. Yeah. He he made an impact on

00:56:03so many people's lives and that is one thing that I think

00:56:07everybody does a pretty good job of when these things happen

00:56:10is coming out and being like these are the best things about

00:56:12it. Yeah. Brutal. Uh R.I.P. Jerry West but just wanted to

00:56:18mention it. Um next piece of me news. Dan Hurley, Sam.

00:56:22Ultimate respect move. Did not take the Lakers job. Huge win.

00:56:25Staying at UConn. Huge win. We were early on Monday. Yes. And

00:56:30uh the news had not dropped yet so. No. Came out that he's

00:56:34staying at UConn. He's gonna get free wings forever. Very

00:56:37surprised. I was shocked. I thought he's. I'm surprised too.

00:56:40Free wings? What do you mean? Someplace in Connecticut was

00:56:44free wings for life. That's electric. Yeah. He's the man.

00:56:49He's got a chance to be one of the greatest. College coach

00:56:52ever. Like. And I think he recognized that and decided he

00:56:55won his date. And Zach Lowe came out and said it I think it

00:56:58was on one of those ESPN shows. That Lakers job really isn't

00:57:01that great of a job. Like you're being set up to fail.

00:57:04Zach Lowe pointed them out as a play in team every year. I've

00:57:06been on this show saying like if you take that job you're

00:57:09going to go in there and get no credit or all the blame. If

00:57:12they win it's LeBron's doing and if they lose it's all your

00:57:15fault. And that's really as far as it goes surrounding the

00:57:18Lakers. I don't know why Hurley would wanna and he clearly

00:57:21didn't leave UConn for that because he's got it made there.

00:57:24He's the star of the show. His son is on the team. And he's

00:57:29set up the program to be successful going forward. He's

00:57:32hoping to win a third straight national title last year. Why?

00:57:34How many teams have won? Lakers. How many teams have won?

00:57:36Just UCLA back in the day with um John Woodness. They've got a

00:57:41good chance too. They're gonna be like a really good team

00:57:43again next year, right? I you're asking the wrong guy.

00:57:46Everything I've heard is yes. But I I wasn't sure. All of New

00:57:50England is rejoiced unless you support a big East team. That's

00:57:53not UConn. Like PC people I know, none too pleased with

00:57:56this. Good for Dan Hurley. Uh last thing I think speaking of

00:58:02speaking of coaches, the Cavaliers have a few finalists

00:58:05for their head coaching job. Jake Fisher just tweeted out

00:58:07in front of the pod. James Burigo, Kenny Atkinson, and

00:58:09Mike and Nori have all advanced to in-person meetings

00:58:12this week for Cleveland's head coaching job. It feels like

00:58:14James Burigo is bound to get a job. Mike and Nori is, I mean,

00:58:17he basically just coached the Wolves uh to the Western

00:58:20Conference Finals cuz Chris Fincher got hurt. And then

00:58:22Kenny Atkinson has already gotten head coaching job. Just

00:58:24said, I don't wanna coach the Hornets. Um you know what's

00:58:27crazy? The how how bad the Hornets fumbled. Like to have

00:58:32to like obviously have Charles Charlie now cuz so they're good

00:58:35but like James Burigo shouldn't have been fired. Kenny

00:58:37Atkinson said, I don't even wanna coach you and now they're

00:58:40both like prime head coaching candidates again. Like, what

00:58:42are we doing? Like James Burigo's a great coach. Like

00:58:44he's a great offensive mind. You play him with some defensive

00:58:46guys. It'll be good. Kenny Atkinson like obviously is that

00:58:49developmental guy. I don't know as much about Mike and Nori

00:58:51but like Cleveland's gonna be in a good spot man. Uh they're

00:58:53gonna be they're gonna be good spot with any of those guys uh

00:58:55if they end up hiring. I can't believe how long it's been

00:59:00since Kenny Atkinson had a head coaching job. Because when he

00:59:03was the coach of the Nets before they got KD and Kyrie.

00:59:06That team was like in that weird overachieving space that

00:59:11the Celtics were in for years. And then they brought in those

00:59:14guys and those guys were like we don't want him on the team.

00:59:16We want this guy to be the coach, Steve Nash. And then

00:59:19Atkinson just went to Golden State and has been there. Went

00:59:23to the Clippers first for a year. And then we went to the

00:59:25Clippers first and he's been there. But yeah. He's he's been

00:59:27around. Like he's just been being an assistant. It just

00:59:30doesn't make any sense to me why this guy hasn't gotten a

00:59:32job yet. And with Borrego being consistently put out there as a

00:59:37candidate for this, I'd imagine he's number one on their list

00:59:40too. So, he's probably not even gonna get this job. Yeah. It's

00:59:46wild. Mike Inori will get a job too soon too. How old is Mike

00:59:48Inori? Mike Inori age. He is fifty. Okay, yeah. That's

00:59:52around the right age. For most coaches. Um okay. Should we go

00:59:56to the Rattles here? Rattles time. What do you got?

01:00:02Rattles Rattles the state of Rhode Island. So, today, I got

01:00:12a notice in the mail that I need to renew my registration

01:00:16of my car which is normal. It's up in July. Knew it was coming.

01:00:20However, year or two, I think it was two years ago because I

01:00:24was still at the news station when it happened. They

01:00:27redesigned our license plates. I'm gonna pull it up. I'm gonna

01:00:31pull up the old design because the the old design and new

01:00:35design are similar but I'm not a fan of the new design. I got

01:00:40it. It looks **** stupid. I've got it. Can you take the rat

01:00:43off? Take the rat off? You got it. Here we go. Here we go.

01:00:48Okay. So, old one. This is the old one, right? This way. I

01:00:51recognize this. That's the new one. That that yes, that is the

01:00:54old wave. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say. And the new one

01:00:58is that one not it is that one. They look similar. Multiple

01:01:04ways. But I'm telling you right now. The new one looks ****

01:01:09cheap. I hate the way it looks. It looks like, you know how

01:01:13when you buy a Celtics jersey and you can buy the $60 one or

01:01:17you can buy the $110 one. Yeah. The old one is the $110

01:01:23one. The new one is the $60 one. And now I have to change

01:01:29and get this one and put it on the back of my car. Now, when I

01:01:33got this notice today, I said to myself, you know what? I'm

01:01:37gonna go on the site and I'm gonna see if I can get one of

01:01:40these cool looking ones because I'm sure they have it in

01:01:44in Rhode Island. You can donate whatever the charge is to get a

01:01:49special plate to whatever charity it represents. Yeah.

01:01:53And there's an option for you to get a different looking

01:01:56plate. So, I'm from Warwick. Those of you that are on the OG

01:02:03side of things will remember Rocky Point which I do not

01:02:06remember but Rocky Point was an amusement park literally what

01:02:10would have been 10 minutes from my house if that. So, it's

01:02:13very close. It was a big part of our city's history for a

01:02:17while and you can get a license plate. Oh, you can get a

01:02:20license plate like this one. Rocky Point 123. You see it

01:02:24right there. You have the little arch. Nice sunset in the

01:02:27background. Some seagulls and you get this by donating. We

01:02:33pay $42 and twenty of it goes to whatever Rocky Point

01:02:36Restoration Foundation. So, I'm like, okay, you know what?

01:02:39That's not bad and there's a link on the RIDMV site. Takes

01:02:43you to the site to the foundation. Now, this is where

01:02:46I have a problem. They only take payment through the mail.

01:02:52There's no option on the website for me to pay them to

01:02:56get myself one of these license plates. Reminding you,

01:03:00this, the way you get these is through donating to a charity.

01:03:07Don't you think you would make it easier to donate to a

01:03:09charity if you were trying to get money from people? Like,

01:03:12Jack, if we're taking donations, would we, we're

01:03:15trying to fund our channel. We're trying to send ourselves

01:03:18wherever. Say, you wanted to pay for your ships to the

01:03:20finals. Wouldn't you make it easy for people to give you

01:03:23money? Wouldn't you make it so they don't have to jump through

01:03:25hoops for you to get the funds? Yeah. Do you have to send it in

01:03:31cash or something? You have to send it in the mail, check or

01:03:34cash. I'm not doing it. It's a lot of work. Why? I feel like

01:03:38it's not that much work. I don't have checks. You cash? I

01:03:44don't have cash on me.

01:03:47Tough. Yeah, it should it should just be a like typing

01:03:51your credit card. Exactly. That'd be the easiest way to

01:03:54do it and now I have to have this ugly great value license

01:03:57plate on my car. I actually can't get an antique one.

01:04:00That's how old my car is. Yours is still better than

01:04:03Massachusetts. Massachusetts is boring. I mean, it's boring.

01:04:05It just is boring. Rallis the heat man. I hate Texas. This

01:04:09place sucks. I can't do the heat. I'm not a heat guy. I

01:04:12need the cold. I'm sweating. We stood in the line for like it

01:04:15was only like 20 minutes outside but it was like in the

01:04:17sun sweating just completely can't do it. It was terrible.

01:04:20It's brutal. Yeah, I need it. We got in. We are playing like

01:04:24landed at like twelve at night like midnight. It was like 78.

01:04:28I'm like, I can't do this. This this this is not for me. I'm

01:04:32not. You know, I was talking to somebody today. Apparently,

01:04:36when it's hot out, your body has to work harder for

01:04:39everything. So, people are in worse moods like it. You

01:04:43literally have to be like, am I sad or am I just hot? It sucks.

01:04:47I hate it. I hate it. I didn't know that. I remember. Yeah.

01:04:51Five years ago, my boy Greg and I went to Fenway Park to see

01:04:54Liverpool play. I had bought tickets. It was 100° that day.

01:04:58It was **** terrible. Awful and we wait. We got there early.

01:05:01We waited outside. Seats were in the sun. They weren't

01:05:04covered by a shade of like the the stands that overhang. We

01:05:09were directly in the sunlight for as long as possible.

01:05:12Terrible. Also, the pilot who landed us in Charlotte for a

01:05:16layover trampolined off the runway but like it was it was

01:05:20the craziest landing I've ever been a part of and like I said

01:05:22it was like I was fine um and there wasn't too much

01:05:24turbulence on their flight but it was it was crazy. You know,

01:05:27wide-eyed. You're like, I was like, yeah. Not even worried.

01:05:32Just like what the hell is happening. Um but I don't think

01:05:35I have anything else. It's been pretty chill. Save some stories

01:05:37for other things. Do you got anything? Uh yeah. So, as I

01:05:41mentioned, I went to the baseball game with my dad

01:05:43yesterday. Rat list, the people of Fenway Park. We've talked

01:05:49about this many a time. I've never seen people who enjoy

01:05:53standing so much than the **** people showing up late to the

01:05:57baseball game walking up the aisle and completely eclipsing

01:06:01my view of the action. Just get to the **** place on time. It's

01:06:06not that difficult. It's a Tuesday. It's not it's not a

01:06:10major traffic day. Get to the ballpark on time. You knew you

01:06:14were coming to the game tonight. Just show up and I

01:06:17think that's a bad sports fan thing in general. Like showing

01:06:20up late to games is sad. It's sad, sad, sad behavior. Can't

01:06:24be late. Can't be late. You can't be late. And Fenway in

01:06:28in the Red Sox have become such a figure or epitome of bad

01:06:34fandom and and I'm not talking about the people that are

01:06:38boycotting the games. Ownership's fault. It's

01:06:40ownership. Because of ownership. Yeah, they're

01:06:42ownership doesn't care to put a product on the field. No. The

01:06:44people that care about the team aren't buying tickets because

01:06:47they don't wanna pay these people and then you have the

01:06:50social club going to the game. You just have people that wanna

01:06:52go there, take selfies. Like, they're just going to Fenway

01:06:55for Fenway. And this has led me to come up with a verdict on

01:07:00Sweet Caroline Jack. Sweet Caroline, a controversial

01:07:05tradition at Fenway Park. People do not all love it. Some

01:07:09people are sick and tired of it. They want it to be done.

01:07:11Some people love it. They go, they sing along and it's a

01:07:14really fun moment to be a part of. I'm out. I'm officially

01:07:19I've not always hated it. But yesterday being there and just

01:07:24kind of like being like, huh? This is why everyone's here. In

01:07:28when I'm drunk at when I'm sober. Final verdict. Final

01:07:32verdict. Fair verdict. Very fair verdict. I I could

01:07:36appreciate that. Um. There with the fellas. Little bit.

01:07:40Feeling it. Hanging out. That comes out. You're like, oh.

01:07:44That's the vibe. My dad. My dad could not um get enough of how

01:07:48dead the the Red Sox look as a team though. Like they have no

01:07:52energy about him. That wasn't even a game where they got their

01:07:54asses kicked in terms of giving up a bunch of runs. They got

01:07:58four hits the whole game and three of them came before the

01:08:00ninth inning. So it was just a long just nothing offensive

01:08:05game from them and they looked lifeless. Uh final rat list

01:08:08item is anti-rat list to the guy at the gym. I wore this

01:08:11Celtic shirt to the gym today. He was like, good luck on

01:08:15on Banner 18. He was talking about it. Respect. He

01:08:18definitely didn't know who I was which I don't expect

01:08:20anybody to but. Handshake. Respect. Handshake indeed. He

01:08:23was just like talking about it and he was like, yeah, heard

01:08:27about the KP news that sucks and I was like, well, actually

01:08:29like, looks okay. He was walking around and stuff. Like

01:08:32I broke the news to him. He was like, I really wanna see

01:08:35Orford get one. That's like me too. Hell yeah. **** yeah. Love

01:08:40that. Alright, that's all I got. I'm gonna go hang out by

01:08:43the court. Chill pregame. Uh and then go to the press

01:08:47conference, et cetera, et cetera. Appreciate you for

01:08:49tuning in. I'll let them take it out. Hell yeah. Thank you

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