00:00 We have a very intense scene between Joe Jr. and Bernie in this episode.
00:04 It was kind of stressful to watch, but in a good way, if that makes any sense.
00:09 So what was it like to play that opposite Ellen Berson?
00:12 It's stressful to do, I can tell you that.
00:15 Not not every day that you want to go to set and yell at a legend.
00:21 It was necessary.
00:24 You know, those scenes are tough, but she's such a pro.
00:28 And honestly, to just rub elbows with her and to exist
00:32 in the same room as her is comforting enough,
00:37 especially when you have to do a scene like that.
00:39 But yeah, it's a tough one to do.
00:41 I haven't seen it yet, so, you know, I imagine it's tough to watch,
00:47 but it's also necessary as part of the arc that we're trying to
00:51 to get through with his addiction.
00:55 You know, it's the ultimate irony when it comes to to addiction.
01:00 You wind up really kind of hurting the ones you love the most.
01:05 And that's what that scene, you know, it's meant to represent
01:10 the desperation that addicts have when they're not able to use
01:13 and and how the links that they're willing to go
01:17 kind of out of their own mind to to get it, even if it means,
01:23 you know, hurting the ones they love specifically.
01:26 The legend.
01:28 And.
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