Parvati Shallow Beaks Down Her Elimination from ‘The Traitors’

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00:00 - Okay, Harvity, I'm so sad that you're out,

00:03 but it was so fun watching you play for many episodes.

00:05 You were kind of where the cat with nine lives on the show.

00:08 - Yes, I'm shocked I lasted as long as I lasted

00:11 'cause the very beginning,

00:13 before I was even a traitor,

00:15 Larsa was calling me out.

00:16 So it was a wild ride from day one.

00:20 - Take me back to the night that you ultimately get banished.

00:24 Going into that banishment,

00:25 did you think you had a chance of staying?

00:27 'Cause it seemed like it was between you and Phaedra.

00:28 Did you think you could stay?

00:30 - I looked at Phaedra, I mounced to her in the castle.

00:32 I was like, "They're making us go against each other."

00:35 And it was sad.

00:37 It was so sad for us

00:39 'cause I think neither of us ever really wanted to do that.

00:44 Like, we were both...

00:46 Like, once I realized that Phaedra was playing

00:48 really loyal to the traitors, I was like,

00:50 "Oh, I'm not gonna go after her.

00:52 "Like, she's keeping me safe."

00:55 So it was super sad.

00:57 I thought, yeah, I was like, "Maybe there's a chance."

00:59 Because I had been talking...

01:01 Like, my strategy was, if they think that I'm a traitor,

01:05 then the only real chance I have to stick around

01:08 is to work with people who are thinking strategically.

01:10 Like, we wanna get to the end with a traitor that we know

01:14 so that we can banish them at the end.

01:16 'Cause the game is set up like that.

01:18 Once you know someone's a traitor,

01:20 that's good news for you

01:21 if you think that traitor will keep you safe

01:23 and not murder you.

01:25 So I was having those conversations

01:27 and I sort of dropped that in with John at one point.

01:31 But I think they were all just so caught up

01:33 in their self-righteous, "I'm gonna be the hero."

01:36 - Really?

01:38 - Yeah.

01:39 Murderers.

01:40 - Much more complicated than just getting the traitors.

01:43 For the faithfuls, there's a lot more strategy

01:44 that goes into it, for sure.

01:46 - If they're playing with that strategy, but not a lot...

01:49 They weren't.

01:50 - Yeah.

01:51 - Tresha was, but not the other one.

01:52 Like, not all of them.

01:53 - Yeah, we saw in the last episode

01:56 that Sandra kind of corralled this group to stick together

01:59 and to eliminate Peter's group.

02:01 Why didn't that play out

02:02 when it came to this week's episode?

02:05 - I think there was enough time in between.

02:07 It's like when the moment is upon you,

02:12 that's when the plan will work.

02:13 It's similar with "Survivor."

02:14 But in these kinds of games, people's minds are racing

02:18 and there's so many different elements at play

02:20 and factors happening.

02:22 And I think Tresha had this idea

02:25 that she's like, "I'm gonna get...

02:26 We gotta get Phaedra.

02:27 If Parv's a traitor, then at least..."

02:30 'Cause Tresha and I had a good relationship,

02:32 so I think she knew that I would not murder her.

02:35 I would keep her safe.

02:36 So she wanted to get Phaedra instead.

02:38 And then it was like, "Okay, well, if Kate's turning,

02:42 if MJ's not gonna..."

02:43 'Cause MJ was like, "I'm voting for you."

02:46 She said that to me.

02:47 So I was like, "Shoot.

02:49 Well, then I can't try to get Peter.

02:51 He's the only vote.

02:53 I have his vote now to try to get Phaedra."

02:55 So things just move and change really quickly

02:58 in those kind of dynamic environments.

03:01 - Yeah, how detrimental was it to your game

03:03 to have that Bravo click together?

03:05 Because once it came down to you or Phaedra,

03:07 they all had Phaedra's back.

03:08 - Yeah, it was hard.

03:11 That's why I was trying to break up the Bravos

03:13 in the beginning.

03:14 Yes, Larsa would have had Phaedra's back too.

03:16 They all had each other's backs.

03:18 Tamara would have too.

03:21 - They grew.

03:21 - So that was my goal

03:25 with getting a couple of the housewives out of the house

03:28 because they do have a very tight bond.

03:31 I think they recognize something in each other

03:34 and they have a camaraderie

03:35 and they just have a respect for each other

03:38 and what they have to go through.

03:39 So they're like, "Okay, well, you and I, we're together.

03:42 You are me, so I'm gonna keep you safe

03:44 and you're gonna keep me safe."

03:45 And I think it was smart of them.

03:47 - Yeah, and there's so many of them.

03:49 It's like Kate comes in, they have another number.

03:51 With Larsa, there was so many of them.

03:54 - Yes, and when Kate came in, I was like,

03:57 she had already known, she had already knew who the cast was

04:00 'cause the cast had been announced

04:02 before she got into the game.

04:04 So she'd Googled all of us

04:05 and she comes in, the first thing she says to me is,

04:07 "Oh, you're the one who they call the black widow.

04:10 And you're the one who convinced that guy

04:12 to give up his immunity necklace.

04:14 And then you voted him out.

04:15 And you're a yoga teacher."

04:17 She knew all of this stuff about me

04:19 and she was telling everyone.

04:20 She's like, "Get her, get her out."

04:23 - Yeah, that's not really fair in my opinion,

04:24 but that's a different conversation.

04:26 - Yeah.

04:27 - The move to try to kill Bergy when he had the shield.

04:31 I mean, was that just disastrous?

04:33 That killed you?

04:34 Yeah.

04:35 - That was the end of my game.

04:38 - It was, it really was.

04:39 - That was it.

04:40 And I just, looking back, I'm like,

04:43 I wish I would have fought harder,

04:46 like stood my ground harder on that

04:48 and been like, "You guys, it doesn't make any sense.

04:50 Like, it's stupid of us to do this.

04:52 Let's just kill John, who everyone thinks is a faithful.

04:54 It's not going to make any waves."

04:55 But Dan was so scared.

04:58 And he's like, he just was playing scared.

05:01 And I had already gotten Atkin

05:06 and then Phaedra had gotten Tamra.

05:08 So it was sort of Dan's turn to get someone.

05:11 And I was like, "Fine."

05:12 Oh, I wish I would have fought harder.

05:16 - You kill John, right?

05:17 The whole game changes right there.

05:19 - Yes, would have just killed John.

05:21 Beat him.

05:23 - Just kill John, yeah, but.

05:25 - It wouldn't have made any waves,

05:26 but at least it would have been like some heat off of us

05:29 because Peter's little plan, Peter would have been like,

05:31 "Oh, well, I guess it's not them."

05:32 Or at least he would have been confused.

05:35 - Yeah, definitely.

05:37 Did you have an idea of who you wanted

05:39 to be in the end game with?

05:40 I mean, I know you had such a big target on your back.

05:42 You probably didn't have the liberty to choose

05:44 who you wanted to be there with,

05:45 but did you have an idea of who you wanted to stick around?

05:48 - Trishel and I had a pretty good connection

05:55 and I felt like I would have kept her around to the end

05:58 'cause she was so terrified the whole time.

06:02 And Phaedra called her frantic.

06:04 I was like, "Yeah, she was acting really frantic

06:06 "and very faithfully."

06:08 But I don't know because it's really hard to say

06:13 because I was playing defense the entire game.

06:16 And I didn't really have an opportunity to be like,

06:19 "All right, this would be my path to the end game."

06:22 I was playing moment by moment,

06:24 just trying to get through breakfast,

06:26 just trying to get through the banishment round table,

06:29 just like holding on for the turret

06:31 'cause the turret was my safe space and I loved it.

06:35 And I could actually let myself express myself

06:39 and have some fun in there.

06:41 But otherwise in the castle,

06:42 I was just like, "What do I do?"

06:46 - It was like two different experiences, kinda.

06:49 - Yeah, I never felt safe in the castle,

06:52 but in the turret it was like, "Oh, I could be more myself."

06:55 - Yeah, your face off with Phaedra,

06:58 when she says, "Don't do that, Parvati."

06:59 And then when she says that nobody likes you,

07:01 was that as dramatic as we saw in person?

07:05 - The edit kind of freezes my face and holds still.

07:12 That didn't, I mean, that pause wasn't as long, right?

07:15 But I was surprised, I was like,

07:17 "Oh, she's really, I think she's really mad."

07:21 'Cause Phaedra's a really good actor.

07:23 She's like, "I'm not an actor."

07:24 I'm like, "Mm, yeah, we all know you're an actor

07:27 "and you're really good at it."

07:28 I was like, "Oh, I'm mad."

07:30 But she was in character the entire time,

07:33 even in the turret, so I couldn't break her.

07:36 And it was dramatic.

07:39 Dan was so freaked out and stunned.

07:42 And I was just like, it was a back and forth

07:45 between Phaedra and I for maybe a few minutes.

07:49 And I was like, "Okay, I gotta let her know

07:52 "that she is safe.

07:54 "I have to just field this attack and not react to it

07:59 "and diffuse this."

08:01 I'm very good at that anyways.

08:02 It's kind of water off my back.

08:04 She can say nobody likes me,

08:05 but that's just how she handles conflict,

08:10 is personal attacks.

08:14 And I'm like, "Oh, I know people like that."

08:15 So whatever.

08:18 - Yeah, and you guys were able to move past it

08:19 and get back in the room.

08:20 So it kind of all worked out.

08:22 - I don't hold it against her.

08:23 She didn't hold it against me and we moved forward.

08:25 I think that's sort of the housewives way.

08:27 - Yeah, yeah, they have to move on.

08:31 That's how the show works.

08:33 If you had survived and Phaedra was knocked out,

08:35 who would you have recruited?

08:36 We see her choosing Kate at the end of this episode.

08:39 Who would have your pick been?

08:41 - Look, I told Phaedra to recruit Kate.

08:43 I would have recruited Kate.

08:44 I was like, we were in the turret and I was like,

08:47 "If we get another chance to recruit someone,

08:48 "it has to be Kate."

08:50 Because she came in last.

08:52 You can create suspicion around her,

08:55 even if there isn't any right now.

08:58 And she has been standing up for Phaedra so much

09:01 at the round table.

09:02 If I had to pick one,

09:03 it was really smart of Phaedra to recruit Kate.

09:05 I would have done the same.

09:06 - Yeah, good move.

09:07 And as we wrap up here, my last question,

09:09 just what are your thoughts on Sandra's gameplay?

09:11 I mean, obviously you guys have so much history.

09:13 What do you think about how she's playing this game

09:14 compared to her multiple sins on "Survivor"?

09:18 - She's doing the exact same thing that she always does.

09:20 Anyone but me.

09:21 - Anybody but me.

09:22 - Yeah, and she's being very low key.

09:26 She had some good relationships

09:31 with different factions.

09:33 So she's playing her same "Survivor" game.

09:36 And she's surviving.

09:37 - That's Sandra.

09:38 Zebra doesn't change, right?

09:40 - No, she doesn't.

09:41 She holds, but I will say though,

09:43 she has been showing up for the challenges.

09:46 - She won a shield.

09:47 That's big for Sandra.

09:48 - She won a shield.

09:49 She beat me and John.

09:51 So I think that's really cool.

09:53 And Sandra's, she's making me laugh

09:55 in her interviews in this show.

09:59 - It's nice to see you guys be on good terms.

10:01 Or at least it seemed that way.

10:02 I mean, you guys are, right?

10:03 - Yeah, we're good.

10:04 Yeah.

10:05 - It's amazing.

10:05 All right, well, thank you so much.

10:06 It was so fun watching you play this season

10:08 and you're gonna be missed on these episodes.

10:11 - Oh, I'm so sad.

10:12 I'm gonna miss it too.

10:14 - All stars.

10:15 All stars.

10:15 - Thanks.

10:18 - Thank you.

10:19 - Thanks so much, Eric.

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