00:00 People's Party's senior Renuman Adhimavzal Chan is with us, who was also a part of the Central Executive Committee.
00:06 Sir, you lost the second election in a row. Both times it was unfair.
00:11 Do you always make the wrong choices? What is the problem here?
00:15 Look, in the eyes of the public, when I won, I took 65,000 votes.
00:22 When I am coming, I took 118,000 votes. This time I took 89,000.
00:29 The situation is that the Chief Secretary is the main machinery of my party.
00:36 The rest of the situation is in front of everyone. All the agencies, all the opposition...
00:43 Is there any relative of the Chief Secretary who is your opponent?
00:47 He is my nephew. The Chief Secretary said that he has managed the whole of Punjab.
00:51 ROs, civil administration, he asks for one seat.
00:56 One seat is denied. This happened?
00:59 I had a competition with PTI.
01:02 Mr. Paracha, a very strong political party.
01:05 I had a competition with them till 4 pm. After 4 pm, the results were closed.
01:09 45-70 bags were also gone. They did not even give the form 45.
01:14 Prior to this, the polling stations of Marzi, ROs of Marzi, Noon League's presiding officers,
01:21 No security, the whole administration has been fighting their election for a year.
01:26 Funds, in every union council, 2-4 crore funds are being used.
01:31 Despite doing all this, the votes were still lost.
01:34 Where I am winning, I am winning 200. Where they are winning, they are winning 600.
01:38 First they were given certificates of about 20,000.
01:41 Did you tell all these things to your chairman?
01:44 Of course I told. The day of the chairman's meeting...
01:48 The day of the chairman's meeting, a Noon family had matched me.
01:53 One of them was Ali Jaffar Naqvi, his secretary.
01:56 The second day after the chairman left, they raided his house.
01:59 His son, Gulfam Naqvi, took it away.
02:02 Mr. Chandra, tell me, was your father more inclined towards sitting in the government?
02:09 And his sons... because your voice was so loud,
02:16 and you have been fair to us, and you don't want to work on old salaries,
02:19 and you want to sit in the opposition,
02:21 so I think your son, Mr. Bilawal, the chairman, has become more inclined towards it.
02:26 Look, we didn't have an option.
02:29 You tell me...
02:31 There was an option, sir, to become a part of the cabinet,
02:33 work on old salaries, go to the ministries.
02:35 No, no, our...
02:37 You are still making the government...
02:39 If we had any option other than the Noon League, we would have never given it to the Noon League.
02:45 Other than the Noon League, the system would have been derailed here, the People's Party.
02:49 It would have let the third government take advantage.
02:52 So, we have to run the system here.
02:55 The track record of the People's Party is that we are in the spirit of running the parliament,
02:59 not in the spirit of breaking the parliament.
03:01 What happened inside? Was the majority opinion in favour of the opposition?
03:03 No, the majority debate has been very open.
03:05 Everyone has given their opinion.
03:07 But...
03:09 You had a different opinion yesterday and today.
03:11 I was the biggest opponent of the Noon League.
03:14 But the Jialas don't have face-keeping in Punjab.
03:16 Many Sindhs don't understand this.
03:18 Look, we want that the Noon League never gave space to the People's Party.
03:23 The People's Party, as much as it can,
03:26 we have taken the burden of PDM for 16 months.
03:29 Who has been the beneficiary?
03:31 Here, they have been the beneficiary, the second class,
03:33 so here the Noon League has been the beneficiary.
03:35 The People's Party has been the beneficiary for 16 months.
03:38 The People's Party has even lost the election.
03:42 The Noon League has ignored the leadership of Punjab.
03:44 Of course, it has.
03:46 In Punjab, you can see their political arrangements,
03:49 their funds,
03:51 they have treated us in the same way as the PTI.
03:55 Sir, there is no free lunch.
03:57 You say that we will not sit together,
03:59 but we will take constitutional oaths.
04:01 By the way, is it understood that the Constitution...
04:03 because you don't have a number there either,
04:05 that the Noon League will vote for you.
04:07 The Noon League will not vote for us.
04:10 We will not make them the Prime Minister.
04:12 With 20 seats...
04:14 So, they don't have any option either.
04:16 No, they don't have any option anyway.
04:18 If we throw them down now,
04:20 they are not capable of going to the public anyway.
04:22 And we are taking the burden of them.
04:24 Now that the re-election has taken place,
04:26 you are saying that if 75 seats have been taken out,
04:28 if the re-election has taken place,
04:30 then 75 will not be given.
04:32 Look, in every era, in some way,
04:34 one party has to take the burden of another party.
04:36 Today, we are taking the burden of the Noon League.
04:39 This is the reality.
04:40 And it is not an easy task to take this burden.
04:42 It is very difficult for Bilawal.
04:44 It is very difficult for the Peer Party.
04:46 Look, we have to be the Chairman of politics in the future too.
04:50 So, to save Pakistan...
04:52 The crisis is very big in the country.
04:54 In the country, tell me,
04:56 at this time, one party is not joking,
04:58 the other party is...
05:00 I understand this crisis.
05:02 My question, sir.
05:04 You are telling them to make a government,
05:06 you will help them,
05:08 you will vote for them,
05:09 they will let you have the constitutional positions
05:11 that you want to have,
05:13 including Presidency, Chairman, Senate and Speakership.
05:16 Yes?
05:18 We have to make the government stable too.
05:20 Sir, I am telling you,
05:22 this is a great strategic move of the PPP.
05:24 First, it is a finger on the carpet,
05:26 when you feel like pulling it,
05:28 and on top of that, you have to make the President your own,
05:30 that when it is time to bring vote or no confidence,
05:32 you are sitting on the top.
05:34 The Speaker has to bring the meeting,
05:37 and the President has to bring the meeting.
05:38 Who was the brainchild of the PPP?
05:40 I just want to know.
05:42 Look, this is not our concern.
05:44 We don't want to blackmail them.
05:46 Listen to me, we don't want to blackmail them.
05:48 We want to run the system.
05:50 When did the PPP demand the Parliament seriously
05:52 that we should take the constitutional positions.
05:54 And if they come back and tell Bilawal,
05:56 Sir, you should take the Prime Ministership.
05:58 No, there is no right to take the Prime Ministership.
06:00 Now, they should not give it.
06:02 No, we did not demand the Prime Ministership.
06:04 Thank you very much, Nadeem Afzal Chahnawala.
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