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00:03 Hello, welcome to another Good Week, Bad Week
00:18 with Nancy and Marina at nationalworld.com.
00:21 And we're taking a bit of a diversion here this week.
00:24 So normally we talk about celebrities
00:27 who are in the news headlines.
00:28 But I think, well, we're looking at the sporting world
00:31 more or less this week.
00:32 So instead, should we talk about everybody's
00:34 favorite Take That member?
00:36 If he was everybody's favorite Take That member, was he?
00:39 He was definitely mine, although I was never
00:41 a great Take That fan.
00:42 No, neither was I. I mean, I didn't mind Take That,
00:45 but I wasn't like one of those crazy fans who was obsessed
00:50 and cried when they split up.
00:52 No, let's talk about Robbie Williams, yes.
00:55 I do quite like Robbie Williams.
00:56 I seem to be writing about Robbie Williams and his wife,
01:00 Ida, quite a lot recently, because she
01:02 was in the hospital sharing photographs of herself and Amy.
01:06 But let's not dwell too much on Ida.
01:08 It's Robbie Williams that we want to talk about.
01:10 And not Robbie Williams and Take That,
01:13 although I don't want to excite people too much, because no,
01:17 we're not talking about Robbie Williams joining Take That
01:19 again.
01:19 We're talking about Robbie Williams and football.
01:22 And more specifically, rumors that he's
01:26 set to sort of take an investment with a consortium
01:31 to buy the club Port Vale.
01:34 And he's a lifelong fan of Port Vale.
01:37 So yeah, what do you make of that, Anthe?
01:41 So I kind of think it's every--
01:44 I was going to say boy, but every boy and some girls
01:47 childhood dream to be the boss at your football club.
01:51 Well, you want to play there first, don't you?
01:52 Robbie didn't quite make it.
01:54 So if you can't do that, and then you've made millions,
01:56 why not come back and run the place?
01:58 And so he is already heavily involved, isn't he?
02:00 Like you say, it's his childhood club.
02:03 But he's already very involved there.
02:06 And I think he set the world on fire with a little tweet where
02:12 he says everybody should call him Mr. President,
02:14 El Presidente.
02:16 It's gone to his head already.
02:17 And you're kind of like, hmm, Mr.--
02:19 he says he's backstage with my band now.
02:21 And he's not talking about his band.
02:22 He's talking about a football club.
02:23 And if anybody's going to be called El Presidente, well,
02:25 that's only going to be the number one person, isn't it?
02:28 Presumably, Ryan Reynolds gets called El Presidente
02:31 when he's in Wales.
02:32 Not sure that's quite how the Welsh say it.
02:34 But I think that's what set everybody crazy.
02:37 Because we all know that really, Robbie
02:40 would want to buy his favorite football club.
02:43 He loves it.
02:44 He travels back.
02:44 He watches it wherever he goes.
02:48 And actually, so the financial success and the difference
02:52 it's made to Wrexham, having Hollywood stars involved,
02:56 is incredible.
02:56 I mean, they got promotion, the whole documentary,
02:59 and whether they'll ever make it to the Premier League,
03:02 who knows.
03:02 But actually, it's starting to look like quite
03:04 a good financial investment.
03:06 Although, as we know with football,
03:07 people often say you throw money down the pan.
03:09 But if you love the club that much,
03:11 perhaps it doesn't matter when you've got millions to spare.
03:14 What do you think?
03:15 Yeah, and not only that, that Welcome to Wrexham,
03:18 which I did watch.
03:19 I haven't yet watched the second series.
03:21 It's being commissioned for a third series.
03:23 So it's obviously, there's definitely an audience there.
03:28 And there's social media following, obviously.
03:32 Once Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney were involved,
03:35 it went up from X to stratosphere status
03:40 with millions, I think, are now following Wrexham.
03:44 And also, let's not forget, Robbie Williams
03:47 has recently had his own documentary,
03:50 talk show series on Netflix about his career.
03:54 So it would be quite convenient, wouldn't it, for Netflix--
03:58 maybe they've already done the deal, dare I say it.
04:02 Maybe they've signed him up already,
04:03 if the talks are progressing well with the football club.
04:08 You know, it won't be too long, perhaps,
04:10 till we see Robbie Williams and a new Port Vale documentary.
04:13 And I think likely, although the Ryan Reynolds one
04:17 is on Disney, because he's got that partnership
04:19 with Netflix already, we might be seeing it on Netflix soon.
04:24 And it is-- if you get the smaller clubs,
04:26 and no offense to Ryan or Robbie,
04:28 but I think both of their clubs sort of fit into that league,
04:32 then it is a classic Hollywood storyline, isn't it?
04:34 If somebody could have bought Man United or Liverpool,
04:36 it's just not the same, is it?
04:38 People weren't that interested.
04:39 I mean, probably the most famous thing about Port Vale
04:41 was the fact that they had a big, famous supporter.
04:45 So I think--
04:45 I know it's never guaranteed, but it does bring--
04:49 the promotions and the sort of football success
04:52 is never guaranteed.
04:53 But it does bring an element of glamor
04:56 that draws more people in.
04:59 Yeah, 100%.
04:59 And actually, the more we get club mates.
05:01 100%, because as you said, if it's a huge club,
05:04 it's not at all the same.
05:06 And it's-- there's kind of a romance, isn't there,
05:09 with a lower league team?
05:11 A huge Hollywood star comes to save them all,
05:14 and it's sort of like--
05:16 it's just made for TV.
05:18 It's just the part--
05:19 Underdogs.
05:21 Everybody loves an underdog.
05:23 I remember when Sean Bean-- everyone
05:25 thought he was going to buy my lovely Sheffield United,
05:26 and he never did.
05:27 Maybe we need him back then, right
05:28 at the bottom of the Premier League.
05:30 Anyway, talking about the big clubs, too,
05:33 there's been a little bit of trouble at the top.
05:36 And well, I mean, there's been quite a lot of trouble.
05:40 Some of the big names have had a lot of sort
05:42 of traditional tabloid stories around their private lives
05:45 this week.
05:46 But Marcus Rashford is normally in the news headlines
05:50 because he's a really great role model.
05:52 It feels like he's had a bad week this week.
05:54 Whatever you-- what were your thoughts on it?
05:57 Yeah, I was actually really upset to read
06:00 about Marcus Rashford because, as you said,
06:02 he's done so, so much good.
06:04 And he was seen as--
06:05 and I think, you know, he is--
06:07 what is still a positive role model for what
06:09 he's done with children and free meals.
06:12 But I know everybody's talking.
06:15 What's actually happened to Marcus Rashford?
06:18 I mean, we know, obviously, what's
06:20 happened in the fact that he's been disciplined
06:24 for what's gone on and though he was back in the team last night.
06:29 But I don't know what-- you know,
06:32 he was sort of from the very highs now to the very lows.
06:36 And I was just looking at a sort of Paul Gascoigne.
06:39 Obviously, Paul Gascoigne, back in the day,
06:41 has well-documented his struggles.
06:43 But he's even been reaching out to him saying,
06:46 you know, don't go down the path of X.
06:48 So I just wonder what has happened in his life.
06:52 I don't know if it's something to do with his personal life,
06:55 his personal relationships.
06:57 But he was a huge positive role model.
07:00 So it's very sad to see what's going on with him at the moment.
07:04 So I hope he does turn it around and he gets the support
07:07 that he needs.
07:09 But we don't actually know.
07:11 All we know is that he went out partying on a night
07:14 when he shouldn't.
07:15 Now, let's be honest.
07:16 Most people in their early 20s, particularly
07:18 if they happen to make 200,000 pounds a week,
07:21 might perhaps slip up occasionally.
07:23 And his manager has been very firm.
07:25 Like, I'm not discussing it.
07:26 It's an eternal matter how we deal with it.
07:29 It's for us to deal with.
07:30 And so, yeah, no, I'm sad about it.
07:33 I'm hoping this has been blown out of all proportion.
07:35 And actually, it's fine.
07:37 Maybe he had a little tiff at work
07:39 or he fell out with somebody at home.
07:41 I'm hoping that it is a storm in a teacup.
07:44 And some of the tabloids have done their thing of, oh,
07:47 let's put him on a pedestal and then let's knock him off.
07:50 And so they're trying really hard to knock him off.
07:52 And let's hope that's not actually what the situation is.
07:55 My heart worries slightly that there is something more serious.
07:58 But we don't know that there is yet.
08:01 I think the issue is I'm not going
08:03 to get into the analytics of the football
08:06 because people are going to be saying, oh, Marina,
08:08 why are you commenting on his football?
08:10 But there has been an issue with him on the pitch
08:13 as well as off the pitch.
08:15 He's gone from the very high, the talented--
08:18 I mean, he is a talented football.
08:19 But his prowess on the pitch isn't nearly as good
08:25 as it was in the past.
08:27 So I think there's the question of not only off the pitch,
08:30 but on the pitch.
08:31 So, yeah.
08:32 Well, there is.
08:33 But the pressure of that and everybody--
08:36 you have a bad year at work.
08:37 And everybody's going, oh, everybody,
08:39 not just your colleagues.
08:40 Everybody's going, oh, look at how bad you are now.
08:43 And footballers do have good spells and bad spells.
08:48 So maybe this is a self-perpetuating problem.
08:51 Who knows?
08:52 But I am really hoping that it does go away.
08:57 Although, I mean, so my son said to me,
08:59 you do know that Taylor Swift's boyfriend is a lot better now.
09:01 He's going out with Taylor Swift.
09:03 And I was like, really?
09:04 Do we actually really think that it impacts like this?
09:07 And I don't know.
09:07 Who knows?
09:08 People can have bad weeks because of their personal life.
09:11 Good weeks-- it's all a bit of a mystery.
09:14 But I would love Marcus Rashford to be back in the headlines
09:16 for the right reason any time soon.
09:18 I don't think the same is going to be said of Kyle Walker.
09:21 A true Sheffield boy, bless him.
09:23 But what an idiot he's been.
09:25 And he says it himself.
09:26 So he was happily married to his--
09:28 well, recently married to the woman who's
09:31 been his childhood sweetheart since they were 15.
09:33 They've got kids.
09:34 She was pregnant.
09:35 And over the course of the years,
09:37 he's managed to have two separate children with--
09:42 a bit on the side is all he describes for us.
09:45 She says, oh, no, it was a true loving relationship.
09:48 But what an absolute idiot.
09:51 Again, you just think, really?
09:52 You had everything going for you.
09:54 And now you're trying to crawl back
09:55 into the life of the woman who was giving you everything.
09:58 Maybe that's the issue, Nancy, when you have absolutely
10:01 everything.
10:02 And let's be honest with you.
10:04 These footballers are paid an absolute fortune every week.
10:09 They're treated like gods.
10:11 And this is obviously a huge issue,
10:14 just about the salaries that these footballers are paid.
10:17 But maybe-- and I don't want to paint all footballers
10:22 in the same way that we're speaking about Kyle Walker,
10:24 because obviously, they're not all like that.
10:26 But I think when you reach these levels
10:29 and you're paid this amount of money,
10:31 you think you're untouchable.
10:32 You're a bit like a god.
10:34 And you can do whatever you want.
10:36 And they do.
10:39 Yeah.
10:40 And they're also very young, aren't they?
10:43 They get sort of-- they start on this whirlwind romance
10:46 with thousands of people at a very tender age,
10:50 sort of mid-teens often, sometimes even younger.
10:53 And again, maybe it can be a lonely place,
10:55 even when you're surrounded by love
10:57 and what other people would consider a stable family.
11:00 Still don't think it's an excuse, though.
11:02 There's always an excuse.
11:03 And he's clearly regretting it, but not
11:06 as much as his poor wife and his kids, the kids from both women.
11:09 Yeah, and if you think about it, these footballers' partners
11:14 have to put up with a hell of a lot.
11:16 Often, they have to follow their partner around the country,
11:21 sometimes around the world.
11:23 They have to up sticks.
11:24 They have to leave their relatives.
11:26 They have to move their children from school to school.
11:29 And everyone will say, oh, I'm going to get the violin out.
11:31 Poor them.
11:32 They get paid millions.
11:34 I don't feel too sorry for them.
11:35 But in a way, you do have to have a little bit of sympathy
11:39 for Carwalker's wife, because she's also--
11:43 Not for the wives, but--
11:44 --a lot.
11:46 Yeah, absolutely, which brings us nicely back
11:49 round to the Super Bowl, you do realize,
11:51 because the ultimate case of a footballer being an idiot,
11:53 and then the wife getting the blame with the Beckhams,
11:56 and they're going to be back at the Super Bowl with an ad,
11:58 aren't they?
11:58 They're already sort of taking the mickey out of themselves.
12:00 What a great piece of PR their documentary was.
12:03 But we will come back to that when
12:04 we've got the full ad released, which
12:06 isn't for a couple of weeks.
12:08 So we'll definitely give it to them at Super Bowl.
12:10 But bad week for two really strong England footballers
12:12 today.
12:13 Let's hope that changes.
12:15 It seems to go on and on with England players for generations.
12:19 It's two bad weeks.
12:21 There's going to be a good week for Taylor coming along.
12:22 Don't worry, Marina.
12:23 We'll get back to that soon.
12:26 Thanks, everybody.
12:27 Bye next week.
12:28 Bye.
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