Who is the “You” in YouTube? Black culture and representation in kids' videos

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Javoris and Arlene Hollingsworth are the creative minds behind your favorite nursery rhyme beats, Gracie's Corner.  They share their inspiration and motivation to create a YouTube channel featuring Black characters and culture. Déjà Rollins also presents the latest research on kids' online video viewing habits and the need to elevate the voices of BIPOC creators.  Check out @graciescorner: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ2FzqIvWSE7ysvL1sLWQ5Q   Common Sense research, Who is the “You” in YouTube? link: https://www.commonsensemedia.org/research/who-is-the-you-in-youtube-missed-opportunities-in-race-and-representation-in-childrens-youtube-videos  SOHH and Common Sense Media have joined forces to center our children, community, and values as we raise kids to thrive in a world of media and technology. Centered holds space for conversations with, for, and by BIPOC families about representation, inclusion, and building a better future.  Common Sense is the leading independent research and advocacy nonprofit organization dedicated to helping kids thrive in a world of media and technology. Every day, millions of parents, caregivers, and educators trust Common Sense for expert reviews, objective advice, helpful tools, and so much more to navigate the digital world with their kids.   For more family-friendly entertainment recommendations, visit https://www.commonsensemedia.org/.   Subscribe: https://comsen.se/ytctsh Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commonsenseorg/ Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commonsensemedia  #graciescorner #youtubekids #blackyoutubers #earlychildhood #commonsensemedia

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00:00 A little over 60% of the YouTube videos that were watched by children under eight years old.

00:04 They didn't feature any Black, Indigenous people of color. In our report,

00:08 we call those BIPOC characters. And so we found that, you know, to be problematic.

00:13 Welcome to Centered. I'm Felicia Palmer, founder and CEO of 4Control Media.

00:20 And I'm Jazmin Hood-Miller, Director of Community Content and Engagement at Common Sense.

00:26 And we're delighted to be back again for another episode of Centered. This is where

00:32 our organizations, Common Sense Media and So.com come together to collaborate and have conversations

00:39 about raising kids and specifically kids of color, Black and African American kids in a world of

00:46 media and tech and amplifying quality media that is created by and designed for Black families.

00:55 Absolutely, Felicia. And today we have some really special guests that we're excited to introduce

01:00 in just a moment. But first, I want to give a bit of backdrop for the conversation that we're going

01:04 to have. Common Sense is a research and advocacy organization, and many people know us for our

01:11 entertainment ratings and reviews. We really try to give families information to decide for

01:16 themselves if the latest movies, TV shows, books, apps, podcasts, you name it, are appropriate or

01:22 right for their kids. Our recommendations are all research-backed and come from a child development

01:28 lens. Now, as a Black parent, it doesn't feel like we need research to know that Black voices,

01:34 Black characters and shows for young people of color are underrepresented. We see it and we live

01:40 it every day with our kids. There's definitely some noteworthy examples like Ludacris' Karma's

01:46 World and Grown-ish, but there's always room for more. However, formal research is necessary to

01:54 help push change, bring attention and call out where companies, networks and studios can do better.

02:00 So last year we released a research report called the Inclusion Imperative, and it took a deep dive

02:07 into all the research out there about how media impacts kids' identity development. And of course,

02:14 media has a huge impact on how kids see themselves and understand their own racial and cultural

02:19 identity and others around them. It really emphasized how impactful representation is,

02:26 especially for Black and brown kids, and it spoke to parents' desires to have better representation

02:32 in their kids' media. We then followed up with another report released just a few weeks ago

02:38 titled Who is the You in YouTube? And this focused on a particular platform, YouTube, obviously,

02:44 where the opportunity to really showcase diverse talent and creators is being missed. Our own

02:51 research tells us that online video viewing has exploded in the last four years among kids of all

02:56 ages, but the quality of that viewing is really questionable, especially when it relates to

03:03 positive, non-stereotypical representation. But because this is centered, we're here to uplift,

03:10 shine a light and really promote the good that's out there.

03:13 Exactly. So we're excited today because we're going to be bringing on two creators of a wonderful

03:24 program on YouTube called Gracie's Corner, and the creators behind that are Javoris and Arlene

03:31 Hollingsworth. So delighted to have you guys on. This program is really popping for kids as well

03:39 as for parents, and we know that that's important because when the parents get involved, it's all

03:43 great. So we're excited to have you, Dajah, I'm sorry, Arlene and Javoris. And also we're going

03:50 to be bringing on Dajah Rollins from the University of Illinois and co-author of the report called

03:58 "Who is the You in YouTube?" So thank you all for joining us and welcome.

04:02 So Dajah, let's start with you. What are kids seeing now on YouTube? What are they spending

04:12 their hours and hours doing on YouTube right now? Felicia, they're seeing everything. They're

04:18 exposed to quite a bit when they're on the couch in their rooms, in the backseat of the car,

04:24 watching YouTube. So for our specific report, we looked at 1,242 videos from over 200 children

04:33 between the ages of zero and 18. And what we found looking at all of the data was that a little over

04:40 60% of the YouTube videos that were watched by children under eight years old. So the children

04:45 that will be watching shows like Gracie's Corner, which does a beautiful job, I'm a big fan, Arlene

04:52 and Jay. The videos that we saw, they didn't feature any black indigenous people of color.

04:58 In our report, we call those BIPOC characters. And so a lot of the characters that young children

05:02 were seeing on YouTube in these videos, they were colorblind characters. So animated characters that

05:07 had no clear ethnic or racial identity. They had like blue fur, a non-natural skin, things like

05:14 that. Or videos that only feature white dolls and video game avatars. And whenever there was

05:23 a BIPOC representation, we saw that in about 10% of the videos that we looked at, the representations

05:31 were very shallow and they were still very stereotypical, much like we see in traditional

05:38 television. And so for example, nursery rhyme videos would have BIPOC children as these token

05:45 background characters that didn't have a speaking role. There wasn't any type of development in the

05:50 story or the child's character. And so we found that to be problematic and an opportunity for

05:57 YouTube to do a better job uplifting the voices and content from content creators of color.

06:06 So the research report mentions that while kids and parents can do a lot to seek out the right

06:13 stories, that YouTube has a responsibility as well, that YouTube can actually do better

06:17 to make those stories more present and more available to our families of color.

06:24 And to talk about this, we're going to have Javoris and Arlene, because you guys took it

06:30 a step further. You went from parents seeking out this content to parents actually creating

06:36 the content that our children are enjoying now. So Javoris, what were you seeing as a parent

06:42 for your kids and how did that lead you and your wife to create Great Gracie's Corner?

06:47 So we have really young kids ranging from three, four, and nine. So during the pandemic, of course,

06:58 everybody was at home at the same time and myself had to teach remotely from home at home too. So

07:05 we were watching a lot of the same content that the kids were watching. And one of the things that

07:09 always kind of just stuck out to me was this, that lack of representation where my kids couldn't see

07:14 children in the videos that actually looked like them. There was, like Deja pointed out,

07:19 either characters that were kind of neutral. And from a creative point, I kind of did it where

07:26 it's, you can take this neutral approach. It kind of caters to everything. But at the same time,

07:32 I felt like it was important to make sure that children of color also saw themselves in the

07:36 character because just that, I feel like it helps with building their confidence and realizing that

07:42 they truly belong. A lot of times if you're not seeing yourself in the picture, you start to

07:46 question, like, you know, am I different? Is something, what's wrong with me? So we wanted

07:52 to be intentional about bringing children of color to the forefront and having them star in

07:57 leading roles. And of course, Gracie, my daughter, is the star in leading this creation that we made.

08:04 Yes. And really quickly, I just wanted to ask you, are you all creators? I know you're a professor,

08:13 you're a teacher, but do you have background in kind of this type of storytelling and creating?

08:21 No. Yeah. So professor in chemistry, actually taught organic chemistry and then

08:28 professor in psychology. But I'm the person that brings like all the affirmations and

08:35 I really truly believe in the importance of, you know, positive words and self-talk,

08:43 you know, and so that's kind of, you can kind of see that splash throughout

08:47 Gracie's corner and I'm probably a big reason why. So yeah.

08:52 That's amazing. And just to add a little context, because I think it does kind of throw people off

08:58 when it's like, wait, you're a professor? Like, how does this correlate? But actually, I'm a

09:03 musician, TURT professor, TURT back musician. So I grew up practically living in a church with my

09:11 grandmother. I was in church so much to where I learned how to play the piano and learn how to

09:16 play the drums. But taking my career into the sciences, I kind of left the music, but thanks

09:23 to the pandemic, which is for some people has been a bit of a curse, but I saw a lot of blessings

09:28 that came from it, Gracie's corner being one of them. And I got back to the music, but it was

09:33 even better this time because now I was doing music with my daughter. So it was just like this

09:38 nice, nice return. And grandma and grandpa in the program too. Yeah. Yeah. And that was one of the

09:46 things too, you know, Deja was pointing out sometimes with the media, we try to display,

09:53 have these stereotypical storylines, but in our mindset, we want it to show that, you know,

10:01 we don't have to follow this, any of those stereotypes. So we want to make sure that

10:05 a complete family was shown like that. That's something that a lot of people tend to not

10:11 associate with us. And it's real. Yeah. Yeah. So, so just trying to break down a lot of these

10:16 stereotypes and then just, just taking a more inclusive approach. Yeah.

10:22 Yeah. And Deja, can you speak to why the representation is so critical for small

10:31 children, especially like intuitively we know it's important for our kids to see themselves,

10:35 but like, what's the science behind it? It's so important, you know, like you said,

10:40 especially for, for small children psychologically, and I'm sure Jay and Arlene being psychology

10:45 professors, you, you all know that as well. They're to, to, to break it down in a simple

10:50 way, their brains are like sponges. These children, they're soaking in and taking in

10:55 everything that they're consuming all day, every day. And, and to be quite honest, we,

10:59 you know, in today's day and age, we put them in front of, in front of YouTube a lot, a lot earlier

11:04 than maybe honestly we should. Right. And so they have access to all of these different images and

11:09 messages and depictions. And so their brains are operating like this file cabinet and an

11:14 empty file cabinet at that, that can store all of these different messages and depictions.

11:19 And so if you're continuously seeing these negative or stereotypical depictions or an absence

11:27 of your racial and ethnic identity, then that has an impact on your self-confidence,

11:33 self-development. Like Jay just said, you start to wonder where do I fit in, in society? So if

11:39 you're on YouTube all day, spending hours and hours consuming videos of characters that are

11:45 colorblind, they're just fur animals. And when you do see people of color, characters of color,

11:51 they're white dolls or avatars. And you're not seeing that little black girl with the natural

11:56 hair with her mom and dad and grandpa and grandma and cousins. And you're not seeing

12:02 positive affirmations like Arlene was speaking about in these videos. Over time, it cultivates

12:08 psychologically your own perception and worldview. You go out into the world and you say, okay,

12:14 if I'm seeing these images on YouTube of racial and ethnic stereotypes, maybe this is what people

12:21 like me do or what we look like. My daughter's seven and I've caught her watching some shows.

12:27 They're family geared type of, it looked like reality style YouTube shows. And some of the

12:34 depictions I'm not so happy with, with some of the black characters. And I have to tell her,

12:39 well, you know, not all black moms act like that with their children or not all black little girls

12:45 act like that with their sisters or siblings. And so in some, it's just a psychological pattern

12:52 that takes place in the children are filing these images, these messages about their group

12:59 and other groups all day, every day. And it can just over time cultivate a negative or not as

13:07 positive worldview and view of themselves or their specific racial and ethnic group.

13:12 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we know that, like, I feel like we know that instinctively, but

13:19 when you really hear and you think about, like you said, the hours upon hours that we're just

13:25 feeding into our kids and it has to have some kind of impact. And it's on our kids, the way

13:32 they see themselves is on how other people see us, how we see other people. And it's just this,

13:36 you know, this whole cycle and system of these images that really are, they're not benign in

13:45 the way that we think they are. It's like, oh, you're just watching YouTube or you're just,

13:48 you know, watching TV, but they have, you know, they have this impact. I want to go back to

13:54 Javaris, where you said that, you know, your background is in music. And, you know, I really

13:59 love hearing that you now are working with your daughter on this. I have three small kids also.

14:05 So I know that that struggle with trying to keep kids entertained, but also trying to find quality

14:11 entertainment. My babysitter is actually the one who brought Gracie's Corner to my attention. And

14:17 she was like, have you heard of this? It's a bop. And I was like, oh, okay, let me check it out. And

14:21 I put it on. I was like, oh yeah, this is like, there's so many things. We suggest that parents,

14:27 you know, co-watch or co-view with their kids. But sometimes you don't want to hear the same,

14:32 you know, kind of tunes that you're used to, especially the nursery rhymes and things like

14:36 that. But when you put on Gracie's Corner, like as an adult, as a parent, you can actually enjoy it.

14:41 And I've seen, you know, a bunch of parents on Instagram and social media doing their own videos

14:47 with their kids. And it's really, really cool and exciting. Can you tell us, like, who's behind all

14:54 of that? The lyrics, the beats, the animation and the dancing, and like, how do you come up with all

14:58 that? And how is Gracie involved in that? - Yeah, so with the music, well, that goes back to,

15:08 you know, my background and, you know, learning how to play in church and somehow transferring

15:13 that. Oh, I was also a band geek. So, transferring that all into what we're doing now. So,

15:20 as far as like the beat making and whatnot, of course, my wife just recently bought me a beat

15:25 machine. But at the same time, I partnered with other producers who specialize in making beats.

15:30 And, you know, they may send me something and I give some feedback and ask for little changes and

15:36 they give that back. But once I have the beat, I then write the lyrics. So, all of the songs thus

15:42 far I've written. But as the channel continues to grow, you know, I understand that it may get to a

15:49 point where I can't keep up with writing all the songs. So, I may have to bring on other writers.

15:54 But thus far, you know, I've written all the songs, written the script as far as like the

15:59 animation go. And I put together a team of animators to where once I write the script

16:05 and send it to those guys, they help bring it to life with all of the ideas that are put out there.

16:12 And of course, all of the voiceovers and whatnot, of course, is Gracie. I did make one appearance,

16:20 and she made an appearance on one of the songs. >> I did too. You'll be surprised. Yeah.

16:24 >> Yeah. >> You were the Santa, right?

16:28 >> I was on. A lot of people don't even know this. This is my first time even revealing this. So,

16:33 like on the- >> Exclusive.

16:34 >> Yeah, exclusive. Like on the Old MacDonald, if you get a chance to listen to the Old MacDonald

16:40 song, there's like this guy who does this little deep voice part. That was me. But yeah. And

16:47 on the Halloween song, my two younger kids, they were actually involved in that one too. So,

16:52 if you listen to that, there's like a little part where the kids scream. Those guys.

16:57 >> Fun thing about having an at-home studio, which is like just a, it's simple. It's a room

17:03 in our house where we'll go record. And sometimes the little kids can play a part in some of the

17:08 recordings too. And it's fun. >> I love that you guys have

17:14 really made this a family affair and made it fun for everyone. And it's a place of release

17:21 for you all. What were some of the challenges that you faced though? I mean, you were a musician,

17:26 then a professor, and then a musician, but this is a media world. So, you had to kind of look at

17:32 it from a different lens. So, what were the challenges and when did you realize that Gracie's

17:37 Corner was a hit? >> Man, there was a lot of challenges,

17:42 Ashley, and especially starting out. At first, trying to juggle being a professor and do this

17:50 stuff with Gracie's Corner, that was a challenge in itself. And of course, I had to let something go.

17:56 I really enjoyed teaching and the impact that I had in the classroom, but I realized the greater

18:02 impact that was being, that's taking place through Gracie's Corner, where now we're reaching children

18:08 and families all over the world. But that was one of the things. So, I ended up letting go of

18:13 the teaching just recently. So, this last semester was it for me. So, now I'm just 100%

18:19 doing Gracie's Corner. But starting out, it was rough. And you know what? I'm extremely thankful

18:26 for this young lady being extremely patient, because starting out with any YouTube, I mean,

18:33 I would tell any person who's creating, starting out, you're not gonna have a large audience. In

18:40 fact, I would just recommend starting out with family and friends, getting messages out to them,

18:45 and being consistent and just being persistent at that too, and just continue to put out stuff.

18:51 But starting out, we were getting 100 views or so. And money was only going out. So,

18:59 I'm pumping money into the production, animation, the whole nine. And thankfully, she didn't kill me

19:06 while this whole thing was happening. But eventually, it just started taking off. And I

19:13 think just organically, by word of mouth, kind of like Jasmine mentioned where her caretaker was

19:20 helping spreading the word, and other parents, and social media. And now we're getting millions

19:27 of views per day. So, it's like just to watch that growth from nothing to where it's at now.

19:34 It's amazing. Yeah.

19:35 And what period of time was that? I mean, you started off, and what period of time did you

19:40 realize, "Wait a minute, there's some traction here"?

19:42 So, probably, yeah. So, we started the channel June of 2020. And we probably didn't start,

19:51 we didn't get to the point where we started seeing all of the traction until early this year. Early

19:58 this year was when we were like, I think we made 100,000 subscribers in April. And then we're

20:06 actually close to 600,000 now. And we're only in July. And so, it just all of a sudden, we started

20:17 seeing this major momentum. And as Javor said, it really is just all the supporters, all the people

20:26 who show us love, word of mouth, everything's been purely organic. But he's right. In the very

20:32 beginning, I'm one of those, I've learned what time, we've been married for 12 years, I've learned

20:38 what time that, okay, I need to, of course, reinforce the ambition and encourage it. That was

20:46 one of the biggest things for me. So, it didn't always look the way it looks now. But yeah, I

20:53 mean, definitely early this year was when we really started to say, "Oh, my goodness. We thought this

21:00 was possible. But wow." And definitely a show out moment. It's really, I mean, I love to hear your

21:09 story about how this emerged. A lot of people don't realize it's that ground, that consistency

21:15 over a long period of time before you start to see that moment where it breaks and then it becomes

21:20 exponential growth over a short period of time. You talk about from April till now is really when

21:24 you've seen that growth. I wanted to throw it to Jayjah because I think that really what we're

21:30 talking about is there's a whole gap here for more content like this. So, we want to know,

21:35 what is the opportunity or what does it look like for opportunities for content creators to make

21:40 more of this? And also, what does it look like for kids that are a little older in terms of

21:45 the landscape and opportunities in that regard? Yeah. And so, because this is centered and we

21:51 want to empower and uplift, right? We did see a lot of negative portrayals and depictions when we

21:59 looked at our teen sample. So, I believe we looked at 140 teens that had videos and we saw the same

22:08 trends and tropes. But what we did pick up on, Felicia, is that there is an appetite for inspiring

22:14 and empowering content that elevates voices and perspectives of Black and Indigenous people of

22:19 color and characters and creators. So, we looked at the numbers and the YouTube videos that were

22:24 containing ethnic and racial stereotypes actually had lower viewership compared to those without

22:29 those stereotypes. And so, I believe the videos that had positive and uplifting content from the

22:37 teenagers, the teenage sample, averaged about 1.3 million views. And those with stereotypes averaged

22:45 a little over 700,000 views. And so, these teenagers, this older group, they want to see

22:53 content that contains characters that look like themselves. And this pattern just suggests that

22:58 YouTube acts as a source and can act as a source more specifically of positive representation for

23:05 our youth who are seeking messages that are not only entertaining, but that are entertaining and

23:11 align with their ethnic and racial identity. So, there's opportunity there. They want to see

23:16 themselves in an uplifting, empowering light. And content creators are putting the content out

23:22 there. I believe that it's up to YouTube to continue to more aggressively push that content

23:29 out there from the voices of BIPOC content creators. (Elena) Well, I think that that's, you know, a hopeful

23:37 and inspiring way to look at this is that there is this opportunity, that there is all of this

23:43 want and desire from kids, from families to have, you know, better representation, better quality of

23:54 the content that kids are consuming. So, I kind of want to end with this positive note and hear from

24:02 Jane Arlene, like, what have you enjoyed the most on this journey? And do you have any future

24:07 projects that you want to share with us? And then, also, Deja, to let us know what's next for you.

24:12 (Deja) You want to start? (Denise) I think what's really my personal opinion is just seeing my oldest daughter

24:23 and her dad work together. They have so much fun together. Like, people will think sometimes, like,

24:32 oh, is she, I've heard people say, like, is it a lot of work for her? But, literally, it really isn't.

24:38 Like, we, you know, have her, you know, singing. She loves to sing. I was actually the one that

24:45 was like, "Racyn loves to sing. You should definitely utilize her talent." And so,

24:50 I just really love how it's allowed him to work with her. Like, you know, yes, he loved being

24:59 professor, but I'm sure he loves having a job that allows him to work with his family, his daughter

25:05 much more. At least, I've seen him, you know, he looks a lot happier doing that. So, that's probably

25:12 the thing I enjoy the most. And then, you can speak to the future direction. (Denise) Yeah,

25:17 yeah, she hit a nail on the head. Like, it's been cool to do something I enjoy, but on top of that,

25:24 have that opportunity to spend more time with my daughter and work on these different projects. And

25:28 it's actually, like she said, something that she's been enjoying. In fact, we even allow her to have

25:33 some critical feedback when we're creating. So, like, you know, I mentioned earlier, I write the

25:38 songs and whatnot, but sometimes I may have a line where she'll say, "Dad, you know, I think maybe we

25:43 should say this instead of that." And I try to nurture that and let her get it out. And some

25:50 stuff, actually, she has some pretty good feedback. (Samantha) I want to say she does that for most

25:54 songs, right? Most songs, she's added something or she's taken something out. So, yeah. (Denise)

25:59 Yeah. So, that's been, like, the coolest aspect for me. And as far as, like, future,

26:06 it's been interesting to see a lot of interest, outside interest, in Grace's Corner and its

26:15 growth. And one of the things that we do plan to do is continue to expound on what we currently

26:22 have. So, right now, we just have the short form where we have videos and music, but there's also

26:28 a path where we're gonna build out the narrative and actually give the parents and the family more

26:36 personality and an actual storyline. (Samantha) Love that. I love to see Grandma and Grandpa.

26:42 Come on now. (Denise) So, giving a backstory to them and just building it out that way. And I

26:49 think, you know, kind of like Deja was saying, like, getting positive messaging out and making

26:57 it fun, something that children, as well as their parents, can enjoy. I mean, that's probably been

27:01 the biggest highlight for me to see parents, you know, gravitating to the content. Because

27:07 as a parent myself, you know, with some of the Nurse-A-Round songs, you might want to pull your

27:15 hair out. It's like, oh my God. But we've just been trying to make it fresh and fun and something

27:21 you would even turn on your radio if you, you know, heard it. But that's been the highlight.

27:26 (Samantha) I just want to add a comment because I remember when I was first introduced to Gracie's

27:31 Corner, my daughter was in, you know, Zoom school, right? And her room is right next to her brother's

27:37 room. And so, he heard one of the songs. I think it might have been like a sight word song. And he

27:42 was like, "Ma, come up here. Come listen." And so, we're listening, and she's, like, in school,

27:49 right? And so, I guess this is a part of their routine in school that, you know. So, Gracie's

27:54 Corner has become a part of the curriculum, or it was when they were online in school. And, I mean,

27:59 we were all in the room just, like, bopping to Gracie's Corner. So, it was beautiful. I'm so

28:04 glad, Arlene, you didn't take them out, you know, when things were getting challenging, like you

28:09 said, because my daughter would be missing out, and my little family would be missing out on our

28:13 dose of Gracie's Corner we get every now and then. (Denise) Oh, I appreciate it. (Samantha) Thank you.

28:16 And, Deja, what do you got next? Let's hear about what's happening in your world.

28:22 (Deja) Oh, my gosh. So, doctoral student. That's what's happening. (Samantha) Yeah.

28:26 (Deja) But on the road to assistant professorship, Jay and Arlene, y'all know about that.

28:35 But a lot of the work I do is centered on race and media, and media literacy, and media effects.

28:42 And so, I'm working on a project right now that was funded to look at natural hair on air. So,

28:50 when Black women journalists report, you know, or doing anchoring of the news,

28:55 what perceptions are coming from audiences? Are they perceived as more or less credible

29:01 when their hair is natural compared to when their hair is straight? Working on another study

29:05 looking at, we call it the copaganda. So, I'm a co-author on this study looking at the way Black

29:10 individuals, when they see cops or law enforcement in primetime television shows like CSI or 9-1-1,

29:18 Law and Order, is that having an impact on the way that they, you know, maybe vote or look at laws

29:26 that are related to, you know, policing and defunding the police. So, just a lot of race and

29:34 media work that I'm doing right now, learning the psychology behind it all. I'm situated in

29:38 the field of communication and media. And so, everything that I touch will be race and media.

29:44 So, we just got a few projects in the bucket that I'm hoping to get pushed out here soon.

29:48 Well, we are excited about your projects. I mean, those are so important,

29:52 and so glad to have folks like you in academia. The folks from Gracie's Corner, we are happy to

29:59 have spoken to them. And we're hoping for so much more from you all, because there's so much more

30:05 that can be done. And there's such a gap, like Deja pointed out, for this type of content.

30:10 And here at Common Sense, and so, we are continuing to do centered. So, continue to

30:17 watch us here and look for more from us. And in general, if you're looking for more recommendations

30:22 or ratings on media that's out there for your children, always check out commonsensemedia.org.

30:29 And like and subscribe, and all of those things that you need to do to keep up with what we're

30:35 doing here. Thank you so much. Of course, Jasmine and everyone that's here, thank you

30:40 all for joining us today. And we'll see you on the next episode. Thank you.

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