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00:09 It was just like another day.
00:11 We are in the business of making music and writing songs,
00:15 and we had finished our first album and had some success on it and came home.
00:21 I was still living at my mom's house.
00:23 Was super driven at that time and constantly just working on music.
00:26 I remember sitting there in a guest room with my guitar and plugged into
00:31 Pro Tools at the time and coming up with the initial part,
00:37 the [MUSIC] whatever.
00:39 I thought that how I was playing it was somewhat unique or
00:43 different to what I had been coming up with prior to that maybe,
00:47 or maybe it was an evolution of what I had been doing already
00:50 because like the riff on a song on the first record called Crawling in the Dark.
00:55 It's terribly different in how it's played.
00:58 I thought that was pretty interesting and I was like,
01:00 "Okay, well, where can I go from there?
01:01 Let me just find the root notes."
01:03 Then I was like, this is a root.
01:05 [MUSIC]
01:09 I found these other four.
01:10 I just started going between these things that spoke to me,
01:14 came up with that and put that chord progression together,
01:18 recorded a demo of it at home,
01:20 sent the recording of it to Doug.
01:23 Like he had said, it came together pretty quick,
01:25 the music and the lyrics and the melodies.
01:28 Sent it to Doug and like I did every other song that I would send to Doug.
01:33 [MUSIC]
01:38 >> You know what? Trust me,
01:39 we're guilty of trying to deconstruct that song,
01:44 or at least I am, in so many logical and
01:48 psychological ways to try to find that formula.
01:54 We didn't write it formulaically.
01:57 It wasn't like, what does the audience want?
02:01 What kind of tempo is good?
02:03 What kind of major, minor chords?
02:06 What chords work together? Because people do construct songs that way.
02:10 What's a hot topic now?
02:12 What are phrases you can use now?
02:15 Like everything, they break it down to a science.
02:17 They take all the "romance" out of it.
02:22 Not that we were doing it romantically,
02:25 but it was very-
02:27 >> It was in fear.
02:28 >> Yeah, it was pure in its writing and pure in its message.
02:33 There's no new human experience or emotion under the sun.
02:36 You may think you're the only one to think or feel something,
02:40 but there's probably tens of millions of
02:43 other people who feel or think the exact same way.
02:45 You can get really specific and there are people out there who know exactly what you feel.
02:51 I feel like going that route nowadays is the best way,
02:54 rather than trying to be very general.
02:59 I think you end up getting lyrics that sound like car commercials,
03:05 and the song equivalent of the live, love,
03:09 laugh sign that goes, you know what I mean?
03:12 It's so generic and so I think that's what happens to
03:19 songs that are intentionally crafted to try to appeal to everyone.
03:24 It just turns into this really generic thing.
03:28 [MUSIC]
03:33 >> This isn't weird, but back to what you're saying,
03:36 as far as the grocery store,
03:37 my local pavilions,
03:39 there's a woman that works in there that actually I've known since I was a baby,
03:44 because I don't live very far from where I grew up and she always worked at Vons or pavilions.
03:48 She has talked to me before about our music and she loves it and blah, blah.
03:51 She hears it in the store sometimes.
03:53 Then right after we had that conversation,
03:55 a few days later,
03:56 I was walking into the grocery store and as I was walking in,
04:00 boom, the song starts up.
04:01 I looked around as if someone's twisting their mustache,
04:05 watching me walk in going,
04:06 "Okay, they're playing that now."
04:09 It's very popular there, I guess. We'll take it.
04:13 >> I had a buddy of mine who went to Mexico a few years ago and he sent me a video of
04:20 the house mariachi band playing a version of it in the lobby.
04:28 That kind of stuff happens and I find that extremely strange.
04:31 [MUSIC]
04:35 I am happy anytime the band gets love.
04:43 I don't take it for granted,
04:45 although I also don't get too caught up in it.
04:51 I've always been the one who didn't get too caught up in the band failures,
05:01 but also try not to get too caught up in what,
05:04 "Can you believe this is this big, this thing?"
05:06 Almost like the fans come and tell me, "Yeah, that's cool."
05:10 That's just my personality.
05:13 Really, I don't know if it's just,
05:15 maybe it's like a defense mechanism.
05:18 I don't want to get too excited about things,
05:20 I want to have somebody pull the rug out from under me.
05:24 I think it's awesome.
05:27 It's always completely unpredictable.
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