00:00 The consensus goats in each of college football and the NFL are done, at least with their last
00:06 stop, Nick Saban retiring from Alabama, Bill Belichick and the Patriots parting ways. So
00:10 who's the greater goat? I'm actually going to go with Saban here. I would have said Belichick
00:14 in the past because I think it's a little more difficult to do it at the NFL level.
00:18 But given what we've seen with Belichick sans Tom Brady, it's tough for me to say it's Bill
00:24 when I've seen Saban do it at Alabama. I've seen him do it at LSU, and they both have had
00:29 sustained success. It's definitely Bill. And you said it's a little tougher to do it in the NFL.
00:35 It's way tougher to do it in the NFL. Saban has the benefit of recruiting. He's always going to
00:40 get the one or two best classes every single year. He also gets to keep it fresh that way because
00:46 you're only keeping those guys maybe two, three years tops before they move on. Bill has had to
00:52 do it for 20 years in the NFL, where you got guys who've been with your team for seven, eight years
00:59 and after a while, it's harder and harder to relay that message. Not only that, you could talk about
01:04 what Bill was with Tom Brady, but those first three championships were won by the defense.
01:09 When they stopped the greatest show on turf to win that Super Bowl, that was the defense. I feel
01:14 like I get that Tom's the goat, so he's naturally going to get a lot of credit, but people forget
01:19 the impact the defensive side of the ball had on those first three championships and even still
01:26 in part in the latter three. I'm definitely going Bill. To me, doing it on the pro level is
01:32 ridiculous. A couple things. One, that Rams year was also, I believe, the Spygate year.
01:39 Two, Bill Belichick is well under 500 without Tom Brady. Three, Nick Saban, Belichick didn't have to
01:46 recruit because he had Brady. I don't think Saban ever had a quarterback that's even close to that
01:52 level when he was at college. Look, they're both, this is really a semantic argument you can't take
01:59 away from either's career, but I'm going to give the slight edge to Nick. Nah, bro, I can't give
02:06 you that. I can't give you that. You can talk about that Nick Saban never had a quarterback.
02:09 He didn't need to. He also had one of the greatest defenses for year after year after year. They were
02:15 great in the trenches on both sides of the ball because everybody wanted to play for Bama. They
02:19 always had great running backs. They always had great receivers. Nah, you're not giving that.
02:23 But isn't part of being great at your respective job recruiting as well?
02:26 Yes, but at the same time, you're comparing pros to college. It's completely different.
02:33 Them guys go to Bama with the expectation that it's going to lead to them being in the pros.
02:37 People don't want to say, "Oh, I'm going to New England because I expect to win a Super Bowl or I
02:42 expect to end up having a Hall of Fame career." It's too much money tied into it. So no, it's
02:46 definitely a deal. It's way harder on the pro level. And you have to deal with egos. At least
02:51 in college, y'all young men that are trying to learn the game. And the pros, everybody thinks
02:54 they know everything because they're making millions of dollars. Nah, it's way harder.
02:58 What's crazy is they were both on the same staff at the pro level.
03:02 That's wild.
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