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00:00 I am going to speak in Tiwazo. Tiwazo is a very beautiful place. It is a place of peace.
00:15 [Tiwazo]
00:44 [Tiwazo]
01:05 Tiwazo is in Congo. Congo, Uganda, M23, FDR, MONUSCO, International Community, Envoys,
01:24 [Tiwazo]
01:35 First of all, it should be a shame to all these people here.
01:46 There are so many of us, we have so much in terms of means, we claim to want to resolve the problem.
01:55 It is actually simple to resolve, in my opinion, but it never gets resolved for decades.
02:10 The problems of Congo, the problems of DRC, before that, Zaire, and so on and so forth,
02:19 I am just talking about the problems of the last few decades.
02:28 I am not going into the 60s, I am not going into the late 50s.
02:36 I am just talking about the last nearly 30 years now.
02:43 You, Rwanda, I am sure people should be asking themselves,
02:56 how can these problems that relate to Rwanda, that relate to DRC, that relate to all these groups I am talking about,
03:08 that relate to the whole region, that relate to the powerful countries that so much talk about humanitarian crisis,
03:22 human rights, and all kinds of things, and really speak up for wanting to resolve all these.
03:34 Sit with this kind of a situation, and just keep massaging it,
03:49 blaming everybody except them for these problems.
03:56 It is unfortunate that what I am saying, I have given a short list of parties concerned, countries and so on,
04:15 but it has become so convenient for long,
04:20 that all problems are put on the shoulders, heavily, on the shoulders of Rwanda.
04:37 Rwanda is always the culprit in all this. It is not FDR, it is not the government of Congo,
04:52 that should be responsible for its problems and people.
04:56 It is not the UN, it is not the powerful countries.
05:04 It is not the main America, UK, France, etc.
05:16 No, it is Rwanda. It is Rwanda all the time.
05:29 And it is M23 because of Rwanda. So it still comes back to Rwanda.
05:36 It is not FDR, the remnants of people who carried out genocide here.
05:47 It is not the government of Congo, for many reasons.
05:58 The reasons being, I started by saying here that we don't have means,
06:11 but we have weights. We don't have means, but we have weights.
06:20 We don't have means. And that's why, in comparison, Rwanda and Congo,
06:32 there is more, much more, much, much more, Congo offers to these people than Rwanda.
06:48 So naturally, these people must tread carefully when they are dealing with Congo's problems.
07:04 They must even assist Congo to alleviate their pain by transferring the blame they should have,
07:21 put somewhere else, and the easiest place to put their blame is Rwanda.
07:32 [PAUSE]
07:43 You know the, you know, Kuna proverb.
08:01 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
08:11 [PAUSE]
08:16 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
08:22 [PAUSE]
08:27 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
08:31 [PAUSE]
08:35 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
08:41 [PAUSE]
08:44 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
08:49 [PAUSE]
08:53 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
09:07 [PAUSE]
09:11 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
09:32 When they go to banana plantation, Africans use a lot of, many things they use banana leaves for.
09:45 [PAUSE]
09:49 The banana leaves they cut are the banana leaves of short banana stems.
10:01 [PAUSE]
10:04 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
10:08 [PAUSE]
10:11 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
10:15 [PAUSE]
10:21 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
10:32 Our resources, minerals, [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
10:48 [PAUSE]
10:51 So they would rather go for the short, [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
11:02 [APPLAUSE]
11:08 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
11:18 [APPLAUSE]
11:22 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
11:35 [PAUSE]
11:41 Those who think you can keep picking, cutting our banana leaves because they are short stems,
11:55 boy, you don't know how much.
12:01 [PAUSE]
12:06 You have deceived yourselves.
12:09 [APPLAUSE]
12:13 [PAUSE]
12:24 Some even say we are accused of stealing the wealth, the minerals of Congo.
12:35 [PAUSE]
12:39 One thing we are not, and that's what makes us what I have just said, we are not thieves.
12:51 [APPLAUSE]
12:54 [PAUSE]
12:58 We work for what we have and what we get.
13:05 [PAUSE]
13:09 In fact, we are where we are, I think some decent progress, but not yet too much.
13:19 We have to do a lot.
13:21 By the way, also on account of the support we get from these people who accuse us or who accept that we actually do that,
13:34 meaning these powerful countries, they actually give us a lot of support.
13:43 And if they took time to scrutinize, because they support other countries as well, including the Congo that we are accused so much for what's happening there,
14:05 they will not find a place where we give value for their money than one.
14:17 [APPLAUSE]
14:21 They will not, I can bet on this.
14:26 For every dollar they spend on us, they support us with, we will show more for it than anybody they give their money.
14:39 [PAUSE]
14:43 And it is deliberate, it's not by accident. It's who we are, it's who we want to be, and nobody will take it away from us.
14:55 [APPLAUSE]
14:58 [PAUSE]
15:02 But when it comes to trying to cut the banana leaves because we are short stems,
15:12 [PAUSE]
15:19 they can or they will discover that we also provide value for money.
15:28 [PAUSE]
15:31 Meaning it will actually be costly for them.
15:38 [APPLAUSE]
15:42 [PAUSE]
15:46 Let me add to that.
15:49 [PAUSE]
15:52 For the FDLR and the affiliate groups, RUDU, NANA, and so on and so forth,
16:03 [PAUSE]
16:06 by the way, affiliate groups means also there are some individuals either whom we have here in prison,
16:15 who were brought from outside,
16:18 [PAUSE]
16:20 or others who masquerade around as the so-called opposition,
16:28 [PAUSE]
16:31 whom we have just left free to mess up themselves,
16:40 until some point when, if need be, to take care of them.
16:49 [PAUSE]
16:55 But why do you think this program, for example, FDLR, has been there for the last nearly 30 years? Why?
17:08 [PAUSE]
17:10 Because you think it's too complicated a problem to resolve?
17:15 [PAUSE]
17:19 No.
17:21 I'm beginning to believe something I never believed.
17:28 [PAUSE]
17:32 I suspected, but I had no proof and I don't want to believe it.
17:37 But it's so many years that if you can't find another explanation, then you have to believe it.
17:44 [PAUSE]
17:47 You can't but not believe
17:50 [PAUSE]
17:53 that
17:55 [PAUSE]
17:59 somebody, somewhere, wishes this problem to be there forever.
18:06 [PAUSE]
18:08 Around it,
18:10 [PAUSE]
18:12 so many things
18:14 [PAUSE]
18:16 are played.
18:18 One,
18:20 [PAUSE]
18:22 it is maybe to check
18:28 [PAUSE]
18:29 to check these
18:31 stubborn troublemakers
18:36 [PAUSE]
18:40 but short banana stems.
18:43 [PAUSE]
18:46 It is to check them. There's always something to...
18:49 So it's maintained there.
18:52 [PAUSE]
18:56 And
18:58 then
19:01 it spins around
19:05 [PAUSE]
19:08 for the crimes associated with these people
19:12 of our history, of our tragedy in Rwanda in 1994.
19:17 The history before that.
19:19 [PAUSE]
19:24 They start associating us
19:28 with the very crimes of these people.
19:32 [PAUSE]
19:35 It's like they exist
19:38 because
19:41 [PAUSE]
19:45 we are doing something wrong.
19:48 In actual fact,
19:52 maybe we share in the crime.
19:54 We share in the crime
19:57 they committed.
20:00 So in other words,
20:03 for the perpetrators and
20:06 victims of tragic history,
20:10 we are actually the same.
20:12 [PAUSE]
20:14 There is no difference.
20:18 Isn't it? The whole narrative since 1994.
20:21 How we in this country
20:25 are known for
20:28 stifling freedoms of people.
20:31 We are
20:33 violating human rights.
20:36 [INAUDIBLE]
20:38 Sometimes when they are talking about violating human rights,
20:43 they point
20:46 to the people
20:48 who are here,
20:50 whom they have labeled
20:53 opposition leaders,
20:55 who are associated with this history,
20:58 [PAUSE]
21:00 that we are violating their rights.
21:03 [PAUSE]
21:06 Can you imagine?
21:08 [PAUSE]
21:11 The very people who are associated with
21:15 this site,
21:16 [PAUSE]
21:18 here are some of them,
21:20 outside there,
21:22 whom they have even
21:24 sometimes refused to try
21:27 for their crimes because they can't return them to Rwanda
21:30 because Rwanda is justice and human rights.
21:33 If they return them to Rwanda,
21:36 they will
21:38 be denied their
21:40 justice, their freedom,
21:44 human rights.
21:45 And then we respond to these people and say, "Okay,
21:48 if you can't give them to us,
21:50 here is evidence. You try them in your courts
21:53 because you are better than us."
21:55 And they still don't do that.
21:58 So what does that mean?
22:00 [PAUSE]
22:02 What would that mean for anybody who wants to think?
22:06 [PAUSE]
22:08 You don't want me to try them
22:12 for reasons you are giving,
22:14 whether false or
22:16 true.
22:18 But then how about you?
22:21 How about you trying them?
22:24 [PAUSE]
22:26 What's wrong with you? You mean you are questioning your own justice system as well?
22:31 [PAUSE]
22:37 But on top of that, they still
22:41 come and
22:42 point fingers at us.
22:45 [PAUSE]
22:54 But sometimes
22:57 there is
22:59 poetic justice that goes on.
23:02 Some of these people who refuse to
23:06 [PAUSE]
23:09 send these people back to us.
23:11 We have been begging and showing them all the crimes,
23:14 and they have refused.
23:16 In some cases,
23:19 [PAUSE]
23:21 these people have gone ahead and committed crimes
23:24 while these people are holding them in their countries.
23:28 And then, prompted by that,
23:31 they quickly now send them
23:33 to us.
23:35 [PAUSE]
23:38 Because there is a case where
23:40 somebody was being accused and
23:43 we were asking
23:45 of these people.
23:47 Then they killed somebody
23:49 in one of these countries outside
23:52 who had refused to surrender that person to us.
23:57 Killed the person, then I think another case,
24:01 raped somebody.
24:03 And then,
24:06 prompted by that, they start processing
24:08 to send
24:10 these people to us.
24:12 So the first crime of the genocide they
24:15 carried out here was not bad enough.
24:18 [PAUSE]
24:22 But they are reminded
24:24 by
24:26 somebody violating
24:29 the rights of one of their citizens.
24:32 [PAUSE]
24:35 This is what I'm calling
24:36 sometimes poetic justice.
24:39 [PAUSE]
24:43 So,
24:45 [PAUSE]
24:49 if
24:51 for the last 28 years,
24:53 this problem has been there.
24:56 And for the last 20-something, 22 maybe,
25:03 the UN force was sent to Congo
25:07 to deal with this situation.
25:11 On top of the East,
25:14 being
25:17 [PAUSE]
25:19 to deal with
25:21 FDR and these other unacceptable groups.
25:25 [PAUSE]
25:28 And there is not a single day
25:32 [PAUSE]
25:33 not a single day
25:35 that I know
25:37 maybe you do
25:39 [PAUSE]
25:41 that these forces
25:43 ever
25:45 fought FDR
25:48 [PAUSE]
25:50 to try and remove them.
25:53 But they've been so keen
25:56 [PAUSE]
25:58 to fight
26:01 the notorious, famous, I don't know,
26:04 M23.
26:06 And saying,
26:08 "You are dealing with half the problem.
26:13 The other half
26:15 will come back to haunt all of us."
26:18 [PAUSE]
26:20 This is not a military issue.
26:23 [PAUSE]
26:25 This is not a problem you want to resolve by force of arms.
26:30 [PAUSE]
26:31 It's largely a political problem.
26:35 We need to attend to you,
26:36 maybe help the Congolese government to address this problem.
26:40 They ignored us.
26:42 Fine.
26:44 Ten years after that,
26:48 the problem has come to haunt all of us.
26:52 But of course, the easy way, again, they have,
26:58 is blame Rwanda for it.
27:00 That solves the problem.
27:02 That's where we are now.
27:05 But why wasn't this problem
27:10 resolved for the last ten years?
27:12 Honestly.
27:14 Why wasn't it?
27:16 [PAUSE]
27:18 Those M23,
27:21 those who fled and came to Rwanda,
27:24 we put them,
27:26 we can't only them, in a camp.
27:28 In the former...
27:32 [INAUDIBLE]
27:34 Sorry?
27:36 In Nkoma.
27:40 Former Chikungu.
27:43 We disarmed them.
27:47 We gave arms back to Kongo.
27:51 They took the arms.
27:54 I'm talking about facts here, not...
27:57 Now,
28:00 processes started of, you know, talking to these people,
28:03 how do we, what do we do with them,
28:05 where do we...
28:06 And we always gave access, the officials from Kongo,
28:10 to go and talk to these people.
28:11 Every time.
28:12 We came here like 20 times.
28:16 The last I heard of was when they said
28:21 they wanted representatives of these people and others.
28:24 The majority of them were,
28:26 went to Uganda.
28:28 There was a bigger group.
28:31 And they said they wanted to talk to them.
28:35 To their representatives.
28:38 Those groups here and those groups in Uganda.
28:41 They took them to Kongo, to Kishasa, actually.
28:45 Supposedly to talk to them and resolve their problems.
28:51 These people, they took,
28:54 spent months
28:57 in a hotel where they put them.
29:01 And for those months, not a single government official
29:06 visited them or came to talk to them.
29:08 Until they decided to,
29:13 I don't know whether to escape or do what, and left.
29:19 Now, the problem comes back
29:24 to be Rwanda's problem.
29:28 When they started fighting,
29:33 don't ask me how or where they came from,
29:38 but we have had a moment to discuss this openly
29:43 in meetings of heads of state.
29:48 In Nairobi.
29:49 And it was clearly demonstrated
29:53 to the Congolese leaders.
29:56 What had been going on.
29:59 And the only thing they kept telling us was,
30:04 no, no, no.
30:06 These people must go back where they came from.
30:10 And then you ask them, where did they come from?
30:16 Or what time do you mean?
30:18 Because even if you assume that they came from here,
30:23 where did they come from when they came here?
30:28 And I asked one simple question in the meeting.
30:35 I said, we would be wasting our time
30:38 if we do not answer this question
30:41 and we continue the discussing.
30:44 This issue.
30:45 Said one simple question.
30:48 Are these people we are dealing with,
30:52 or having to deal with, Congolese or Rwandese or Ugandans?
30:58 Fortunately, the Congolese leaders answered
31:07 that they are actually Congolese.
31:11 And I said, okay, now we can have a conversation.
31:15 Because my impression at first was that
31:19 you were saying that these are Rwandese
31:23 because they speak Kinyarwanda.
31:26 Because they are Rwandophones,
31:32 I hear some people call them that.
31:34 But they are Congolese.
31:37 These are citizens of Congo.
31:41 They have their ancestral homes and things in Congo.
31:50 Not here.
31:51 Here they are refugees.
31:53 We have over 80,000 of them as refugees in the camps.
32:05 So, how do we deal with this issue?
32:10 How does this issue become Rwanda's issue?
32:14 Just being associated for convenience.
32:23 This problem, in my view,
32:26 is not too difficult to address.
32:30 But you have to do the right thing.
32:33 I want to remind people
32:36 that you have to think about
32:42 how to address the FDR problem.
32:46 It's been there for too long.
32:50 Forget about stories being created around it.
32:54 You say, no, they are no longer there.
32:57 They came to Rwanda and then we sent them back.
33:01 But on record, also, in the UN,
33:05 there are those who have been repatriated over time
33:08 and we received them and reintegrated them.
33:10 That's why there is that center,
33:14 ZT Motowo.
33:16 They are on record.
33:19 The records are there, very clear.
33:29 That problem has to be looked at.
33:32 The other problem is
33:36 the so-called M23 or other groups, by the way.
33:40 There are over 100
33:44 rebel groups.
33:47 Did you know that?
33:50 In the Eastern Congo.
33:52 Armed fighting for all kinds of things.
33:55 I don't know some of them.
33:58 So they can't all be existing because of Rwanda.
34:02 Certainly not.
34:05 If it was because of Rwanda,
34:09 maybe they would be together.
34:13 So that problem
34:20 needs to be addressed
34:23 in the right context
34:28 and those problems are Congolese problems,
34:32 they are not Rwanda's problems.
34:35 But we can help
34:39 because we are interested
34:41 in a stable neighbor.
34:44 Peace in the Congo, or Eastern Congo,
34:53 is peace for us.
34:55 So we can't be questioned about
34:59 or our desire to have a peaceful country and region
35:04 cannot be questioned, honestly.
35:08 We can't.
35:13 Even if
35:23 those who accuse us of stealing minerals,
35:26 if that were to be true,
35:29 I think we can do better
35:31 stealing by having peace.
35:34 Yes.
35:37 Because when you have peace,
35:40 then you don't even need to steal.
35:42 You would actually have...
35:49 I was talking to some very senior people recently
35:54 from somewhere who
35:58 were saying, "No, the Congolese are saying
36:03 we steal their quota, we steal their gold."
36:08 Then I asked them
36:11 one question.
36:13 Many, many leaders.
36:16 I said,
36:18 "There's something I know.
36:20 Some people come from Congo,
36:24 whether they smuggle or go through the right channels,
36:28 they bring minerals,
36:31 but most of it goes through here,
36:38 does not stay here.
36:40 It goes to Dubai,
36:46 it goes to Brussels,
36:48 it goes to Tel Aviv,
36:51 it goes to Russia.
36:53 It used to go to Russia, I don't know if it still goes there.
36:56 It goes everywhere."
36:58 So I was asking them,
37:00 I said,
37:01 "Are you on the list of those who are stealing minerals of Congo?
37:05 Because these things, they end up with you."
37:09 For us,
37:15 they go through our country.
37:18 But they are accusing us of stealing Congo's minerals.
37:24 How about the destination?
37:28 Why don't you talk about it?
37:33 And if we actually
37:38 deployed everything, every effort,
37:41 and stopped these things flowing,
37:44 the accusation would be even worse.
37:47 They would be seeing no more gold coming through here,
37:52 going to them, and then they say,
37:54 "These people,
37:56 they are causing problems."
37:58 So what are we supposed to do, honestly?
38:03 And then there is
38:07 this famous thing that has,
38:11 you know,
38:13 that
38:15 I've heard of hate speech,
38:21 saying some of the things that need to be paid attention to,
38:25 one of them, the hate speech that goes on from
38:29 eastern Congo to the western end.
38:33 And then recently some
38:37 very
38:39 powerful people
38:43 who have some good ideas of how to resolve the problem
38:46 started saying,
38:48 "Hate speech must be stopped on both sides."
38:53 Does anyone understand what that means?
38:59 Well, for me, which both sides?
39:05 So there is hate speech
39:08 in Congo, and there is hate speech in Rwanda.
39:11 This is what they are trying to say.
39:14 Has it been going on?
39:17 Have you been involved in hate speech, you people?
39:20 You know,
39:27 and that these are people supposed to be helping
39:30 to resolve the problem.
39:33 So they must give part of the blame to Congo,
39:40 and another part must be carried by Rwanda,
39:43 even if
39:45 both of us have not been doing the same thing.
39:50 So I'm saying it is simple to resolve because
39:57 all it needs is just
40:00 avoiding
40:09 being neither here nor there.
40:12 You have to address the problem as it is.
40:16 You have to deal with the facts, you have to deal with evidence,
40:19 you have to deal with the right thing to do.
40:22 As for how our name will keep coming up,
40:34 which I can't prevent one way or the other,
40:39 our name will always come up,
40:42 not because we have solicited
40:49 or created
40:52 or in any way, shape or form
40:58 war to happen.
41:04 We never ask for war
41:07 at all.
41:08 We don't create grounds for conflict,
41:11 not at all.
41:13 We're interested in
41:15 rebuilding and building and building
41:19 until we are aware of what war means.
41:23 I have had some people, you know,
41:25 interviews in
41:27 FT in London or
41:30 France-Vientiane,
41:33 France or
41:35 Tversay or something like that.
41:39 Somebody says, "I don't rule out
41:42 a war with Rwanda."
41:45 You know, when I used to talk to this person who keeps saying this,
41:52 I used to advise,
41:56 humbly tell him that
41:58 we are actually tired of war, we need to be working together and
42:04 creating peace between our two countries and
42:08 because
42:11 if you are looking for somebody who knows a thing about war,
42:16 you come to me, please.
42:19 I know something about it
42:23 and I know how bad it is.
42:30 And by that,
42:33 I know
42:37 how you cannot have anything better
42:41 than peace.
42:43 So,
42:53 this problem can be resolved.
42:59 If
43:01 one country headed for elections
43:05 next year
43:08 is not trying to create
43:10 grounds for
43:14 an emergency
43:19 so that elections don't take place,
43:22 well, not that he
43:26 won the first elections,
43:29 as we know.
43:32 So, if he's trying to find another way of having
43:39 the next elections postponed,
43:47 then
43:52 I would rather he uses the other excuses, not us, because
43:58 I don't think we...
44:00 I think we have really a lot of problems
44:03 of our own.
44:06 We don't need to add other people's problems.
44:10 But what is surprising is that
44:15 I've never...
44:16 You will help me to try and
44:18 to understand that.
44:21 I don't know how it comes that everybody, the opposition,
44:26 I think putting the blame on Rwanda,
44:31 which the whole world seems to
44:34 buys them votes.
44:38 Why should...
44:41 Having problems with Rwanda
44:43 and
44:45 votes for people
44:47 and see
44:50 politics heating up in DRC and
44:54 everyone who has something to say,
44:58 whether it is
45:00 whoever.
45:06 Just keep saying, "Oh, Rwanda has invaded, Rwanda has invaded."
45:13 Since when?
45:18 And if you think also that
45:21 we...
45:24 we have,
45:27 or that we are there,
45:29 even if I were to believe it,
45:34 I would still proceed with asking myself a question.
45:38 I say, "Why?
45:40 Why would Rwanda be in Congo?"
45:46 Maybe you will find an answer.
45:48 Because there is a possibility
45:53 that can take us there.
45:57 That means, "Yeah, that's what you are saying."
46:00 For example, let me
46:04 say like this last time when...
46:07 Remember in 2019 when FDR invaded and attacked Kinyigi and
46:15 nearly shut down that place where tourists go?
46:19 And by the way, we started seeing some
46:22 messages, "Don't go to the northern part of Rwanda. There is insecurity
46:30 from all over the world."
46:32 Maybe this is what some people actually want.
46:36 So we cleaned up that mess and then
46:40 this year
46:45 first half and mid,
46:47 remember what went on, the bombings that took place,
46:52 being fired from across, they have artillery in that place.
47:00 And then, so that is a very attractive for us to actually cross the border.
47:10 There's no doubt about it.
47:14 I've been...
47:16 You know, we asked
47:19 DRC several times, I asked the president
47:25 to allow us to work with their people to actually deal with the
47:30 FDR.
47:33 And they refused.
47:36 So I kept asking why they would refuse.
47:39 I told them, "Just be with us, we will do the work."
47:42 Dealing with them.
47:44 Little did I know they were...
47:47 They wanted to preserve them.
47:50 So, but in the end, later on in these arguments, I said,
47:59 when they started firing across our border,
48:03 I told him that
48:06 that is enough invitation.
48:11 I told the president of COM.
48:13 While initially I was seeking invitation to work with them to deal with our problem,
48:20 actually firing artillery across the border into our territory
48:29 is sufficient invitation.
48:32 That statement still stands.
48:40 If there is ever any...
48:42 We have been keeping quiet about some things, you know, violations.
48:47 And again, when you see the statements everywhere saying, you know,
48:52 the territorial integrity of Congo must be respected.
49:02 I totally agree.
49:07 But so must Rwanda's territorial integrity be respected.
49:13 And respecting territorial integrity
49:23 is not just by a soldier putting foot on the ground
49:28 on that territory.
49:33 It's what you send to the other territory as well, even standing on your own.
49:40 If you fired artillery shells across the border into Rwanda,
49:47 while you are in Congo,
49:50 you have violated the territorial integrity of Rwanda.
49:54 That's the interpretation. I don't know of any other interpretation.
50:00 So, I gave you more than you wanted or expected,
50:05 but I thought I needed to really do this.
50:09 So be clear about it. When you see things happening, you just know.
50:20 First of all, we are not going to
50:24 engage in skirmishes that could have been avoided.
50:30 We are not going to violate anybody's
50:34 sovereignty or territorial integrity.
50:39 It will be respected, but with so much demand that that happens
50:46 in our case as well.
50:54 So people can, along the border,
50:59 can go to bed at night
51:03 knowing they have security for them to sleep all night.
51:12 Short of that,
51:20 we will make somebody else spend sleepless nights.
51:26 Thank you very much.
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