00:00 I note with interest that their lordships relied quite heavily on comments by the UNHCR
00:06 about the situation in Rwanda. I'm also very conscious that the day after the judgment was
00:11 made, the UNHCR flew over 160 refugees to Rwanda for processing. And so through the actions of an
00:23 organization which is working with the Rwandans, they are telling the world through their actions
00:28 that they believe Rwanda is safe for refugee processing. Otherwise surely they wouldn't have
00:34 flown those people there. It is of course the case that UNHCR has for many years operated a
00:42 transit facility in Rwanda for individuals at grave risk of death in Libya. They are not
00:51 kept in Rwanda. They are there in transit to the eventual destination, third country destination.
01:00 You implied that this, running this operation, suggested that UNHCR might not mean what they
01:08 said about Rwanda not being a safe country. Would you want to correct the record on that?
01:16 So I think the points that I made were all factually accurate. My assessment about the
01:26 disconnect between the very strong criticism that they made about Rwanda, which was reflecting
01:37 their lordships' judgment, and the fact that they still work with Rwanda, I think is something
01:42 that's legitimate to highlight.
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