00:00 Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying
00:08 and harassment?
00:09 Yes or no?
00:10 Leaders of three elite American universities, i.e. Harvard University, MIT, and Penn have
00:15 told a U.S. House committee that anti-Semitism had surged on their campuses since Hamas's
00:21 October 7 attack on Israel, but attempted to revert Republican claims that left-wing
00:27 ideology at their institutions was to blame.
00:30 Instead, they cast the rise in hostility towards Jews as part of a broader increase in anti-Semitism
00:36 across the U.S., citing an accompanying rise in Islamophobia.
00:41 Jewish students have complained of feeling harassed and intimidated on campuses ranging
00:47 from elimination slogans about Israel.
00:50 Some Jewish students are withholding financial contributions and publicly campaigning for
00:55 the removal of some of the leaders.
00:57 Have a look at the discussion on anti-Semitism in U.S. universities and listen to the answers
01:03 given by university presidents Gay, Megill, and Cornbluch, which don't seem to satisfy
01:09 the U.S. representative, Elid Stefanik.
01:13 At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding
01:20 bullying and harassment?
01:21 Yes or no?
01:22 If targeted at individuals not making public statements?
01:27 Yes or no?
01:28 Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?
01:31 I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.
01:35 But you've heard chants for intifada?
01:37 I've heard chants, which can be anti-Semitic depending on the context, when calling for
01:43 the elimination of the Jewish people.
01:46 So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules?
01:51 That would be investigated as harassment if pervasive and severe.
01:56 Ms. Megill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or
02:03 code of conduct?
02:04 Yes or no?
02:08 If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.
02:11 Yes.
02:12 I am asking, specifically calling for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying
02:18 or harassment?
02:21 If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.
02:25 So the answer is yes.
02:27 It is a context-dependent decision, Congresswoman.
02:30 It's a context-dependent decision.
02:32 That's your testimony today, calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.
02:37 That is not bullying or harassment.
02:39 This is the easiest question to answer yes, Ms. Megill.
02:45 So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?
02:48 If it is, if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment.
02:55 Yes.
02:56 Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?
02:59 The speech is not harassment?
03:02 This is unacceptable, Ms. Megill.
03:03 I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.
03:08 Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's code of conduct when it comes to bullying
03:14 and harassment?
03:16 Yes or no?
03:19 It can be harassment.
03:21 The answer is yes.
03:23 And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules
03:29 of bullying and harassment?
03:31 Yes or no?
03:33 It can be, depending on the context.
03:36 What's the context?
03:38 Targeted as an individual, targeted at an individual.
03:41 It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.
03:45 Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
03:48 Do you understand that dehumanization is part of antisemitism?
03:54 I will ask you one more time.
03:56 Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
04:02 Yes or no?
04:05 Antisemitic rhetoric.
04:06 And is it antisemitic rhetoric?
04:09 Antisemitic rhetoric, when it crosses into conduct, that amounts to bullying, harassment,
04:15 intimidation.
04:16 That is actionable conduct, and we do take action.
04:19 So the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard code of
04:25 conduct, correct?
04:28 Again, it depends on the context.
04:31 It does not depend on the context.
04:33 The answer is yes, and this is why you should resign.
04:36 These are unacceptable answers across the board.
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