00:00 "Freddy, surprise!"
00:01 "Dad, you're at my door, unannounced."
00:06 "No, there's a shorter way to say that, surprise!"
00:10 They are fundamentally different guys,
00:11 that's what they discover,
00:12 and they are fundamentally also
00:14 really, really father-like son.
00:15 We'll need like 100 to 150 episodes,
00:17 I think, to really unpack that.
00:19 How's Freddy and Frasier's relationship
00:24 at the beginning of season one?
00:25 Fraught, I think would probably be a good word.
00:28 Well, it starts out strained,
00:29 it starts out comfortably distant.
00:32 They've been apart for 15 years.
00:34 "Freddy, tonight I am cooking you a five-star meal,
00:37 and I won't take no for an answer."
00:38 Would you take not now?
00:40 There's a lot of recalibration that has to happen,
00:42 I think, for both of them.
00:42 "What I do is important,
00:43 'cause it's at least as important as what you do."
00:45 "Okay, sure, let's find someone who has low self-esteem
00:47 and is also on fire,
00:49 and see which one of us they run to first."
00:51 Everyone's childhood has a huge impact
00:52 on who they become as an adult,
00:53 and Freddy's no exception.
00:55 There is that in a kid who has a problem
00:58 he can't necessarily articulate,
01:00 and has issues that he wants to get into with his dad,
01:03 but it takes a bit of peeling back of the onion
01:06 to get there.
01:07 He loves his son, that's the biggest thing about it.
01:09 He loves his son.
01:10 He is a good listener, he does really care about Freddy.
01:13 He's dropped the ball, definitely,
01:15 over the course of Freddy's life.
01:16 He immediately sets out to attempt to fix the issue.
01:20 Thanks, Dad.
01:22 There is a kind of common ground
01:24 between a couple of guys.
01:26 These are a couple of just guy guys.
01:28 This is all starting to feel a bit passive-aggressive.
01:31 You're trying to make a point,
01:33 I wish you would just make it.
01:34 Okay.
01:35 (audience laughing)
01:40 I think the biggest thing that Freddy and Frasier
01:42 have in common that they might not be totally aware of
01:44 is their sense of humor.
01:46 Weird, 'cause I remember you saying
01:48 you were moving to Boston so we could reconnect.
01:51 You know, I hate it when people quote me to me.
01:53 (audience laughing)
01:54 Makes it so much harder to object.
01:56 It's part of what made the Lilith-Frasier dynamic
01:58 so much fun to watch,
02:00 is that while they butted heads on everything,
02:02 there was mutual appreciation of the humor
02:05 and the barbs that were thrown in either direction.
02:08 Realize if you had simply given in to me last night
02:11 instead of this morning,
02:12 the three of us would not be in this hell.
02:14 No.
02:16 It would be the two of us in a whole different hell.
02:18 (audience laughing)
02:19 Well, it's the same thing that people always used to ask,
02:20 how did those two sons come from Martin?
02:22 Ah, gee, I don't know.
02:24 Oh, oh, oh, oh, the food is to die for.
02:26 Niles, your country and your family are to die for.
02:28 Food is to eat.
02:29 (audience laughing)
02:30 And I would say to them, I mean, well,
02:32 their goal in life was to be of service,
02:33 to do something good for other people.
02:35 I'd say that's pretty universal.
02:36 I'd say that's like a family trait
02:38 that reflects right from granddad into grandson.
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