Why Did Patriots Do NOTHING at the Trade Deadline?

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Andrew recaps the Patriots quiet trade deadline and discusses why New England did nothing in attempt to sell of pieces for assets.

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00:00 All right, recording here Tuesday night, a belated happy Halloween by the time you get to listen to
00:04 this as we are a day later than normal with our post-game wrap-up episodes because I gotta be
00:09 honest, I thought it would be a little depressing to do a full 30, 40, 45, we went long last week,
00:17 I stopped recording in my throat here on Pat's Interference, brought to you by FanDuel,
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00:26 that I just have to figure has converted any remaining optimists about the Patriots to,
00:31 "This is a bad team, it's a lost season, and this stinks," as fun as Buffalo was,
00:35 and it was very fun, and then involved Kendrick Bourne, your best offensive player, maybe right
00:41 now, second best, Detroit Brown, but certainly your most exciting, your leading receiver by a
00:45 mile in every category, tearing his ACL, and I can confirm it was a clean tear for Kendrick Bourne,
00:52 some more reporting today is that it's a six to eight month recovery because he has nothing else
00:57 torn in the knee and no cartilage damage, and so he legitimately should be at least ready to run and
01:02 participate at some level for training camp, whether that's here in New England or elsewhere
01:06 at the start of next summer. Now, I also wanted to wait to cover something that became perhaps a
01:11 little depressing for you today, and that was the trade deadline. So we're gonna pack all of the
01:16 depression, all of the sadness of the last couple of days, and there has been a lot since I was on
01:20 here with Ted Johnson on Friday that has happened since that last episode, because today at the
01:25 trade deadline, the Patriots made as many deals as I did. They made as many deals as you did.
01:33 They stood pat in a way that, look, if you've been reading me now for a couple of weeks at any time,
01:39 or listening to this podcast, you know I have been advocating sell, sell, sell, and Bourne's
01:45 injury in that loss, which again dropped them to two and six, only drove that point home further,
01:50 but the Patriots stood pat. And leading up to the trade deadline, I talked to a couple of front
01:56 office executives, one GM, about the value of players that I thought they could legitimately
02:00 trade off. My colleague at The Herald, Doug Kye, did the same, and we concluded through all of
02:04 those talks, you should be able to land multiple mid-round picks if you're the Patriots. Now,
02:10 it is, of course, a real question if you want to part with a player like Kyle Duggar.
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03:06 You should be able to land multiple mid-round picks if you're the Patriots. Now,
03:10 it is, of course, a real question if you want to part with a player like Kyle Duggar,
03:14 who finally got on the scoreboard with his first turnover on Sunday.
03:18 Folks in front offices told us you could get a second or third-round pick for him. Josh Uche,
03:24 third or fourth rounder. Mike Unwenu is going to be a little bit later, same with Kendrick Bourne,
03:28 sixth, maybe fifth and change. And Jalen Mills, another player on a contract here,
03:33 maybe seventh round pick at best. And I looked at that and said, "Okay, two things. One of which
03:38 is these players are very likely to walk in free agency." And it's a case-by-case basis,
03:44 but in Kyle Duggar and Josh Uche's case, not only have you failed to reach extensions
03:49 when the team has engaged with them the last few months, but they're represented by an agency that
03:53 has a long and difficult history with the Patriots when it comes to free agent negotiations.
03:58 And so if they're experiencing their worst season in New England and the Patriots famously do not
04:04 pony up top dollar for very many players, they're probably on the way out. And when they go out,
04:09 they will not pass a compensatory pick walking back in because the Patriots is a bad football
04:15 team with a lot of cap space, third most in the NFL this upcoming spring, according to Over the Cap,
04:21 are going to spend money. And the compensatory pick formula that used to award the Patriots
04:25 for losing free agents and marching on by handing them an extra third or fourth or fifth,
04:30 it weighs both the players walking out your door and those coming in. So for example, well,
04:37 they lost some key players in 2021. All of the comp picks were canceled out because they're signing
04:45 Hunter Henry and Johnnie Smith and Matt Judd and on and on and on. So when the Patriots perhaps bid
04:50 adieu to Josh Uche and Kyle Duggar, they're not going to get anything so long as they spend in
04:56 March. And they should. They're two and six. They have a bottom 10 talented roster in the entire
05:01 league. I mean, ask yourselves how many other front offices are looking at the Patriots and going,
05:06 I'll have what they're having and willingly swapping rosters with them. It's not many.
05:10 Okay. We get this. We know this. The point is I would rather have Kyle Duggar walk out the door
05:16 now or Josh Uche or Kendrick Bourne before he got hurt and pass a draft pick coming in on their way
05:22 out in the middle of a lost season, rather than lose him for nothing. Because those draft picks
05:27 are not only an opportunity to add more cost controlled young players you could perhaps
05:31 develop, it's ammo for trades. And if this is a team that is still coached by Bill Belichick in
05:36 2024, I have to believe he's going to have a new quarterback because of how limited the Patriots
05:41 feel right now, obviously due to the offensive line and a receiving core that just can't get
05:45 open against me on coverage unless it's Pop Douglas, but also Max play. And Bill is not
05:49 going to stay married to that. So you need to trade for someone, whether that means trading up
05:55 into the top 10 of the draft, which is the only reliable place on planet earth. Look this up
06:00 to find a franchise quarterback, Patrick Holmes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, or trade for a veteran.
06:07 And those draft picks, those assets you would get in these deals are better than players with
06:12 expiring contracts at the end of the season. The Patriots obviously disagreed or the offers they got
06:17 were not good enough. Maybe the folks we talked to Doug and I in front offices were a little too
06:22 optimistic about the Patriots, but either way, this team knowing that the direction of the season
06:27 is headed right into the gutter, right into the sewer should have said, let's get something on
06:33 our way down that makes us a little bit easier to clean ourselves off when we come up in the spring
06:38 and then hopefully in 2024. And instead it looks like they're going to fight all the way down there
06:44 because they're keeping all of these players. And at least I'm doubtful that those players are going
06:48 to stick around for next year. And it makes you concerned for the franchise as a whole, because
06:53 the trade deadline it's still too early. Like there's a reason not a lot of deals happen.
06:57 The deals that did happen to from Washington, by the way, who you're going to see on Sunday,
07:00 only fetched a second round pick for Montez Sweat, Chase Young, former second overall pick
07:05 in the draft got a third. So who Chase price probably had to go down because of that,
07:10 but they committed, they had a direction. They said, we're not good enough.
07:15 Our roster is not talented enough. Our quarterback of the future is not here right now. So we're
07:19 going to make a decision, a concerted effort to go get that quarterback, to go get more picks
07:24 and replenish the talent on the roster. The Patriots did not. Okay. There were opportunities
07:30 to sell to contenders and they declined. And that's a bummer because I think again,
07:33 everything about the season should be finding out or fertilizing your future with more trade assets,
07:39 with playing younger players like Demiro Douglas, Keishon Booty is going to finally see the field,
07:43 Taekwon Thornton, you would think with Kendrick Bourne now out for the season.
07:47 And they didn't do it. And that's, that's tough. Again, they have had the most difficult schedule
07:54 in the league. They've had brutal injury luck, but you cannot tell me this is anything better
07:59 than maybe a three and five team. And I think their actions at the trade deadline would suggest
08:04 that the Patriots feel better about themselves. Maybe we would be four and four if we didn't
08:08 lose Matt Judon or Christian Gonzalez or Kendrick Bourne late. But the truth is we've all seen these
08:13 games. Okay. Average teams don't lose 38 to three and then 34 to nothing in consecutive weeks. And
08:20 the Patriots it seems have diluted themselves into thinking they're not that far off as they've done
08:24 the last two off seasons. When in reality, as we've covered many times, they're now 27 and 32
08:29 since Tom Brady left. You need more help at other positions and you could have gotten that help and
08:33 you made deals. You didn't do it. We're moving on. With the busy fall season already in swing,
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