Ten Hag wrong again as Man City destroy Man United | VTF Episode 8
VTF Football Podcast. Tom, Jamie and Louis discuss the Manchester United saga that continues to gather negative momentum. An embarrassing home 0-3 loss to Man City, who is to blame? No identity, poor ownership, Bruno as captain not working and poor signings. It's an absolute disaster! Then the lads discuss who will be 1st-5th on Christmas Day - Let us know what you think! Tom's Teaser hits the halfway mark and then the lads discuss gambling in football after the recent Ivan Toney and Sandro Tonali bans. Then reigning champion Louis takes on Jamie this week.
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00:00 Hello and welcome back. What a weekend it's been. Let's get straight into the first. Welcome
00:04 back Jamie, welcome Louis. We had the Manchester derby and Man United embarrassed at home again.
00:10 I want to talk about who's at fault because we have pundits that said it's Ten Hag's fault,
00:15 Man United have no identity. We had people saying it's the Glazers, it's the owners because
00:20 they're not spending money, which we know they are spending money. We had pundits say
00:24 that they're signing the players from Adivisi, eight players as well. Bruno Fernandes, captain,
00:29 three-nil, embarrassing. Even Pep comes out after and says, "We love playing at Man United."
00:35 How embarrassing is that? Louis, start with you. What were your thoughts on the game?
00:39 I thought it was the best I've seen Man City play for a while. They were actually quite
00:44 entertaining. I don't know if that's a bit both to do with how bad Man United were. I
00:50 think this has been coming for Man United anyway. They've somehow gotten away with it
00:54 in the last three or four games where they've been winning, but they've been awful. I think
00:58 Copenhagen, apparently, they were shocking and they still somehow managed to win that.
01:04 But yeah, this is a game where you've seen it many times at Old Trafford with Man City.
01:09 It seems to just happen. I don't know how many times they've won three-nil there in
01:12 the last 10 years, but it seems to happen all the time. And yeah, Ten Hag said they
01:19 carried out their plan well. I don't know what that says more about his plan than anything.
01:25 So yeah, they were rubbish. And I thought Man City just walked it, popping it off one
01:32 touch, two touch around them. And it was a bit embarrassing really, because it should
01:38 have been more than three, easily more than three. Again, you say the game changed on
01:45 the decision, but I honestly think that had no bearing in the game at all. But we can
01:50 talk about that afterwards. I don't know what Jamie thinks about the game in general.
01:56 Yeah, the game in general. I don't think it was a penalty, it just really hooked him.
02:01 You thought it was a penalty?
02:02 Yeah, because Maguire's behind doing exactly the same thing as well. I mean, they've got
02:06 no plan. The problem is he got the other side of him. And then it's just clear that Hojland
02:12 reacts to the fact he's lost the battle and pulls him down. I think that defines the decision.
02:17 If they're next to each other or Hojland's still in front, I think it's fine.
02:20 Do you think any other team gets that?
02:21 Because he gets beaten.
02:22 Man City get a lot of penalties. Mike Oliver, VAR again, didn't send Kovacic off, didn't
02:27 give the offside goal against Boulogne.
02:28 It's a conspiracy.
02:29 A game conspiracy. You think anyone bar Man City get that penalty?
02:34 Yeah.
02:35 Absolutely.
02:36 That happens every game.
02:37 Yeah, the reason why this happens is if you shout loud enough, they'll look at bar. That's
02:44 all you need to do.
02:45 But do Man City shout the loudest then?
02:46 Well, you see Rodri how mad he was going.
02:48 So my question is, does any other team get that penalty?
02:51 Well, if you do that...
02:52 The Chelsea get that penalty?
02:53 I don't know if you saw our game against Redwood. No, we didn't. We had a more blatant one.
02:57 So that's what I'm saying. So I'm saying to Man City, so I'm sorry, do Man City get that
03:00 penalty? I would say only Man City get that penalty. So the penalty, I think, I agree,
03:04 I struggle with that. Oh, we'll give a penalty every game then. If you're going to do that.
03:08 No, I do agree. I don't think... It is a foul, yeah? But it happens all the time and I think
03:16 it's just a bit unfortunate to be caught out on it at that time.
03:20 It is, but look behind them, Harry Maguire's got a toe on the neck. If you're going to
03:24 defend caughtness like that, or the kicks, it's going to be...
03:27 It's lazy. Arsenal did the same thing, you had Tomi Asu on this and didn't give it.
03:30 It's not consistent, I'll give you that. But anyway, Man City, there's some great performance
03:34 on Man City. Unbelievable. Foden, Grealish, just took them to school in every area of
03:39 the pitch.
03:40 Foden especially, I think.
03:41 That is the penalty, like you said, doesn't really define the game. What defines the game?
03:44 Look at United, oh my, I just can't. Can you believe the mentality? They're like lambs
03:50 to the slaughter. They come out and they just sit defensively and hope to score on the break.
03:53 At home in a derby, I don't care. If I'm a fan, I prefer my team to go and lose 4-0,
04:00 which they almost did anyway, and just give it a go. You just want to see some fight and
04:04 some thing and they just got nothing. How can Ted Hogg say, "Oh, he's gone to plan"
04:09 when he's hooking players at half-time? How can he be going to plan if he's hooking a
04:13 player at half-time? That's the fourth game in a row he's hooked someone at half-time
04:17 because things are not going well. Chopper and Chaney and everything he does, he doesn't
04:21 know what he's doing himself, that's quite clear. He mentioned the lucky results. They
04:25 had the late comeback against Forest, I think, they had McTominay score twice, Dalot had
04:30 to score a screamer at Sheffield United, who are the worst team in the league, they had
04:34 a penalty in the last minute against Copenhagen. It can't take away your credit, but if those
04:41 four things hadn't happened, Ted Hogg would be gone.
04:43 On a punch first game of the season.
04:45 He would be gone because they've saved him and they've managed to get the results and
04:50 things a little bit better coming into this game. It's a disastrous performance against
04:55 City, you can't sit there and sit back in a derby and give nothing. They go on about
04:59 how they're the biggest club and the biggest team in the world, and they are in some levels,
05:03 but to go out with that mentality, and we've been speaking in the last 18 months since
05:08 Ted Hogg came in, and it's like, okay, the play isn't great, but it's about installing
05:11 a new mentality. So this is it then, this is what they want, they want to be like little
05:17 sheep against a massive lion.
05:19 I'm really surprised since Ted Hogg's taken over how bad the style of football, because
05:26 at Ajax, when he got to the semi-finals, they were playing unbelievable football. It was
05:30 so good. I was expecting maybe first season, slowly get there, understand, but they were
05:36 pretty drab last season. It was basically Rashford bailing them out because he had an
05:41 unbelievable season. A load of home games in both cups, there's a reason they got not
05:46 a load of home games, literally all home games in the cups, got the two finals. And I thought
05:51 maybe they would kick on this season. Again, I know they talked about it on TV, but what
05:57 is the style of play?
05:59 The identity, I don't understand.
06:01 It's not an identity.
06:02 I agree with the identity, I understand. But you look at it, you say injuries, you look
06:07 at the above. So I have a back line of Dalot, Jonny Evans, Maguire, Linda Loffat left back,
06:12 right?
06:13 He chose that.
06:14 No, but he obviously going to pick a centre half.
06:16 He said Varane.
06:17 I know he said, but Varane would be injured. There's no sane person is not going to pick
06:21 Varane. He played Varane in the Champions League, didn't he? And we know Varane can't
06:24 play, he usually play two in a week, right? Amrabat, not up to pace. I know Mason Mount
06:28 came at half time. How Ericsson stood at Manchester United is honestly beyond belief. So I do
06:33 have a little bit of sympathy because as a manager, you talk about identity, what would
06:38 Pep do with that team? What would any manager do with that team?
06:40 He's bought these players.
06:41 Yeah, that's the thing.
06:42 He's bought all of these players.
06:43 He didn't buy Linda Loffat. He didn't buy Linda Loffat. He bought four waters to Jonny
06:46 Evans. He didn't choose Jonny Evans. It's because of the situation of the ownership.
06:50 Harry Maguire, he didn't want Harry Maguire. He wanted to sell Harry Maguire. He didn't
06:54 want Harry Maguire and I don't know about Dalot. So that's three players he definitely
06:57 didn't want. And he tried to replace Ericsson with Mount which has not worked.
07:00 He's replacing with Mount, he's not even playing him.
07:03 Well, I think it's a lot about Mount really as well.
07:05 The problem is though, right, he's gone into the summer looking at a squad. United have
07:09 thrown a lot of money at Henhagen in the summer and he's bought Mason Mount for 60 million,
07:14 Hoyland for 70 million and then gone, "Oh, I need a defender, I'll get Jonny Evans in
07:18 on a free." That's completely his choice. He's prioritised a midfielder that has done
07:24 nothing, Mason Mount. A striker, Hoyland, who's going to take a couple of years to get
07:28 to his best when he could have bought, I don't know, Ollie Watkins for 40 million or something.
07:33 You know, a much better midfielder. He could have saved 20 million on James Madison and
07:37 then bought himself another defender. I think Sky Sports showed a graphic of the players
07:41 he's bought and the way he's purchased players has been a disaster. So he's set himself
07:46 up for that failure. I mean, I've had money.
07:48 Anthony, 85 million. I understand what you're saying but I don't know if he chose Jonny
07:52 Evans. I don't know if he chose Aaron about on loan because if he did choose him, why
07:55 was Aaron about on loan? Deadline day. Why was Hoyland so late? And Manchester United
08:00 are the biggest club in the world and the net spend wasn't great. I know they spent all
08:03 this money but yeah, compared to how much they make anyway. So yeah, I agree but I do
08:08 think there's some broken promises here. And also, look at previous managers. We've had
08:11 Van Gaal, we've had Jose Mourinho, we've had obviously Solskjaer, not as good, but we've
08:14 had these big managers. Is it always the manager's fault? This is why I'm struggling with this.
08:18 Well, I think it's not in modern football, you don't give the managers what they want.
08:25 I think you've got to have a strategy, director of football, who knows what they're doing
08:30 because if you've just got the manager deciding on who to bet, that's not their job.
08:36 Ten Hag's has been like, "Okay, I was in there with de Visey. I'm just going to get a few
08:39 players who I know."
08:40 A few? Eight?
08:41 Yeah, 85 million for Anthony.
08:42 No.
08:43 Like, that was never going to be a good sign.
08:46 It was panic, wasn't it, again? That was panic due to the start last year.
08:49 Yeah, so it is not just him because that's not his job to choose all these players, but
08:54 they need a better structure there of deciding on who to buy because at the moment they're
09:00 buying Duds and the manager is going to take the blame if he wants these players because
09:07 that's how it works. And he hasn't been able to coach and made the best out of them. I
09:11 don't know what he ever saw in Anthony to be that much of an 85 million pound player.
09:16 But it's happened with three or four managers. A similar thing happened at Chelsea in the
09:23 kind of, just when the change of ownership happened, Tuchel got to choose who he wanted
09:28 and it's like, "No." Most of his signs were just like, "You need someone to tell the manager,
09:35 'Right, we've done this scouting. This player fits for this. This is what you want.'"
09:40 That's what needs to happen.
09:42 It's like Casemiro, right? They brought Casemiro in last season. He was amazing, Casemiro.
09:46 But it's like, "Okay, we need to replace Casemiro." Hang on a minute. Have you signed a player
09:50 last year, right, who's plus 30 for 70 mil?
09:53 Yes, I have.
09:54 Highest ever. He was great last season and he's got goals this season. Well, do you know
09:58 what, actually, we need to replace him already. That to me is not clever recruitment and I
10:03 agree. The problem is if a new manager comes in, they have to work with these players and
10:08 quite clearly they're not good enough. But we're also seeing, like you mentioned Chelsea,
10:11 we're seeing two teams that aren't quite doing it right. And you look at Man City, unexpectedly
10:15 having an incredible structure saying, "This player fits our system." They've obviously
10:18 got Pep.
10:19 I think it's easier if they've had the same manager for, what, eight years or seven years.
10:23 So this is the first bag of money United. Is it right to sack them hard? Because a lot
10:27 of rumours are now saying he's got three or four games to save his job, right? So let's
10:31 say the three or four games go horribly wrong. And then what, they're going to sack them
10:34 hard before Christmas? So it just starts again, does it? So there's this period, "Okay, we'll
10:38 get a new manager and who should we get in?" We're getting someone that's not in a job,
10:41 right? And then what, we're just going to do this all over again for every two years.
10:44 I do agree with that. But he also needs to start showing something, some tactical, I
10:51 don't know, something on the training ground where they actually are playing better. Because
10:54 they still have these players. The players aren't, they're not awful. They can play better
11:00 than what they are. Because if you watch them now, they're second best in pretty much every
11:05 game. They've been awful in every game. I know it sounds really dramatic, they've had
11:10 10 Premier League games, three Champions League games, they've had a horrible win. Have they
11:14 actually played one in one game where they've actually dominated a team? One that I can't
11:18 come up with. I generally can't think of one. You mentioned how lucky they've been in a
11:21 lot of results. I mean Copenhagen, Garnaccio just scratched the spot, you know, and that
11:25 was lucky. So then we're talking 13, another League Cup, we're talking 14 games this season.
11:30 And they've not won. So I do agree that he needs to really step it up. But, you know,
11:35 what happens when a new manager comes in? Are you going to change the captain? Should
11:38 Bruno be captain?
11:39 On the M then so far, no. There's obviously a complete lack of leadership. Like I say,
11:45 this is the bigger issue, is there's a lack of leadership from Ten Hag. You mentioned
11:49 the defensive game plan, right? He's not the first manager to try and put a defensive game
11:53 plan in. We saw George Mourinho was a master at this. But when you put a defensive game
11:57 plan in, you need players who are going to be aggressive and completely bought in and
12:02 willing to die for everything. I mean, they just don't believe in what Ten Hag is doing.
12:06 And then you've got the changing room issues, with Jadon Sancho now having to lock an academy
12:11 door and have his food brought over to him on a tray because he disagreed about how hard
12:15 he was working.
12:16 Good management. Good management. Strong management.
12:18 Clearly not, because the rest of the team doesn't... If the rest of the team went, "We
12:23 agree with that, we will die for Ten Hag," fine. I kind of get it, but they don't. They
12:27 don't believe in anything he does. He's lost the dressing room. I'm not clear.
12:30 That's my worry. They can see it's 3.94xG yesterday, which is a lot.
12:35 I'm surprised it wasn't more, to be honest.
12:37 I think Man City, they do this thing where when they're winning, they just pop it around
12:39 Barnardo Silva. They were basically showboating on this, let's be honest. It was a training
12:43 game. Even Harland came out and went, "Good..." Did you see his Twitter post? "Good training
12:46 with the boys," or something. They were just knocking it around. They could have got five
12:49 seasons. If they needed to score, they would have got way more goals. It was embarrassing,
12:53 wasn't it?
12:54 Yes.
12:55 The problem is United might drop into the Europa League after the Champions League. They need
12:59 January, but are they going to spend money with the owners? It's just an absolute mess,
13:03 isn't it?
13:04 It's weird, because I don't even think spending money solves...
13:08 Do you not think?
13:09 Not really, no. I don't think that's the... I don't know.
13:11 They have spent money. They have.
13:12 Well, you say that, but compared to how much they're making, I'm not sure. They need to
13:19 get a new back four. We are in 2023, right?
13:23 They've got Martinez.
13:24 He's injured for three months.
13:26 Yes, but this is what they have. Martinez, Varane...
13:30 Two good centre-backs.
13:31 Shaw, left-back, and they haven't had the right back.
13:33 Shaw hasn't been good enough for years.
13:34 Reguilon is in there, obviously.
13:35 On loan. Would Man City have got Reguilon on loan?
13:38 I've not seen that, but they're not...
13:39 Okay, let's compare to Man City, right? Would they have got Reguilon on loan? No.
13:43 Not a bad lay-off.
13:44 You want to be the top. Okay, well, you have to compare yourself to Man City. They would
13:49 not have got... Even Chelsea. Okay, would you think Chelsea would have got Reguilon on
13:52 loan? No. Would they have got Johnny Evans on a short-term deal? No. Would Harry Maguire
13:55 still be there? And Dejan Abramovich? Absolutely not.
13:57 Put it this way, though. Tottenham are the top. Tottenham didn't make any of those signings.
14:01 They didn't make any big, massive signings. They sold their best player, and they topped
14:04 the league. And so, you just run your club efficiently with a decent manager, and it'll
14:10 go all right. Tottenham are top. They've lost their best player. One of the best players
14:15 in the generation. And we all said, "There they go." And they bought cleverly, and now
14:20 they're top.
14:21 That's 10 games in there. We're going to go on to our predictions later. And talking to
14:24 you, man, Harry Kane, who you get to call a lot. I got away school, by the way, the
14:27 weekend. Pat Stadding. Oh, yeah. It's Pat Padding, sorry. Pat Stadding. I mean, he is
14:33 21 goal contribution to 14 games.
14:35 Did you see that game, though?
14:37 I knew you were going to have to show me.
14:39 Did you see what they went? By Munich, we're down to 10 men after four minutes.
14:44 Four minutes?
14:45 Yeah. But then, Darmstadt got two red cards before 30 minutes. So, it was nine against
14:50 eight.
14:51 Harry Kane. That's very worrying. But, okay, so you managed to do it. Just quick, I want
14:54 to ask you, we're going to do our Christmas predictions. But before we do that, will Ten
14:57 Hague be in a job by Christmas Day?
15:00 Christmas Day?
15:01 Yeah.
15:02 Eight games.
15:03 Yeah.
15:04 Yes.
15:05 Not if there's a takeover. No.
15:08 You think, no. Christmas Day, he'll be having turkey on his own.
15:13 We did have this conversation earlier in the season.
15:16 You did.
15:17 I said, "Oh, they'll bring it. They'll turn it around." But I don't think they will turn
15:22 it around.
15:23 I think it will stay. I just still think they'll be like bang average.
15:28 I'm not sure anymore. Because I was more like the side of you. Now, I'm more with Jamie
15:33 Simpson. The crowd are booing.
15:35 Dresden.
15:36 Dresden has definitely gone.
15:37 Fulham away, big game. They can be quite tough, Fulham, sometimes. They're a weird team.
15:42 We'll just play to that.
15:43 They could drop out of the Champions League by that point as well.
15:45 And they need some January sand.
15:46 Okay, right. That's my United then. So, we've gone over that. So, now what we want to do
15:49 is obviously, let's do a few predictions. We talked about Christmas Day and we've got
15:53 eight games. I want to know who you see top five Christmas Day. Because that sets up 90
15:58 of the season, pretty much halfway there. I want to hear because this season has been
16:02 just crazy, isn't it? All the big teams keep winning, it seems. It seems all the bad teams
16:06 are really bad. It seems like we are in for an incredible title race. Or are we? That's
16:11 what I want to find out. We'll get the bottom three as well.
16:13 So, Louis, let's start with you. You've got the fixtures in front of you. But Christmas
16:17 Day, who do you think is going to be top Christmas Day?
16:20 I do think City. City will be. I think they're just coming into form again now. Especially
16:27 after the weekend. But they've got two big games, well three big games coming up. Us
16:32 away, but I think they'll win that.
16:35 You should think big games. Not gammas and three points.
16:37 No, they've got Liverpool and Spurs at home. So, play the teams around them and I think
16:42 they'll beat them both.
16:45 They've got Liverpool at home, don't they?
16:47 Yeah, I think so.
16:49 Just chuck it out.
16:51 I think so. I think they've got a pretty good record against Liverpool.
16:55 So, give us a run down. City.
16:58 City, Arsenal got quite decent fixtures. City, Arsenal, Liverpool next. I think Spurs will
17:06 be fourth on Christmas Day. I think they'll still have a decent amount of points, but
17:10 I think they'll drop down to fourth. It's a very close thing.
17:13 In fifth, I'm going to go for Zilla, but I don't want them to be.
17:19 I'll just give you a bit of context. Liverpool, 26 points. City and Arsenal, 24 points. No,
17:27 I've got that wrong. Spurs and stuff aren't there with 26. Can you get the table up?
17:30 I will get the table up.
17:31 Yeah, right, because then we can do a bit of context. I know Newcastle and Brighton
17:34 have 17 points.
17:35 They're a bit over 22.
17:36 They're a bit over five ahead, right?
17:37 Yeah, they're five ahead from the top five. So, as you're doing that, let's hear your
17:40 top five, Rose.
17:41 It's really tough because everyone's so close. That top four could beat anybody around.
17:46 So, there's three points between Spurs on 26, Arsenal and City on 24, Liverpool 23 and
17:53 Aston Villa on 22.
17:54 And then you've got Newcastle and Brighton 17.
17:56 17.
17:57 Yeah, so close. It's kind of hope for the best. I think City will be top. I think they're
18:02 coming into their own. Rodri's back. They're one of the best midfielders of all time. City
18:08 are just bowling out right now. They're just taking advantage of everyone else. They're
18:12 going to pick up big results against the smaller teams. We know that. They played Bournemouth
18:15 I think this weekend. Keep that ship marching on. So, we're going to Liverpool top. City
18:19 top. But Liverpool second because I think we haven't given Liverpool enough credit.
18:22 They're just so steady. They made easy, easy work of Forest on the weekend. And I don't
18:30 see… I think we need to see them more against some of the bigger teams because it's tough
18:35 because they did so well against Newcastle away and they had nine men. And then the Tottenham
18:39 game was almost hard to even count it because of what happened. So, we need to see them
18:43 all against the bigger teams I think. Chelsea didn't count on the first day of the season
18:47 either. So, I think… But I like the look of Liverpool. They've got a bit of confidence.
18:51 I think a bit of freedom in that midfield. Because like I said, with Spurs as well, it
18:54 almost feels like a transitional year for Liverpool with the midfield. So, the pressure's
18:57 off and they're flying with that.
18:59 Tottenham third. And I realise Arsenal are slipping here. I think it's hard to put Tottenham
19:05 in fourth just because of how well they're doing. And there's no reason… They haven't
19:08 given us any reason to write them off as title contenders yet. I think if the fall-off is
19:14 going to come, it's going to come in the second half of the season. But with no European
19:17 football, I don't really see them getting that tired or anything like that. They probably
19:21 do need a couple of signings in the winter. That would define the title race. But Tottenham
19:26 third, Arsenal fourth and Villa fifth. Villa have got a five-point gap in some hard games
19:32 but because of the five-point gap and the fact that Unai Emery is very good at drafting
19:36 up game plans against bigger teams, I'm going to keep Villa in there at fifth.
19:40 And Bryan or Newcastle are sixth, aren't they?
19:42 Yeah, I mean Newcastle are sixth.
19:45 Right, let's do the real, because we know these two. You're not putting Chelsea fifth,
19:50 both of you?
19:51 No, we will be.
19:53 Plenty of time.
19:56 Right, so I've clicked on his head. I think Christmas. Arsenal, Liverpool, City, Spurs,
20:03 Brighton, Villa, Newcastle. Let me tell you why I'm going to go City third. They've played
20:08 seven or eight games because they've got the Club World Cup, haven't they? So that's a
20:11 problem, surely. You've done that, I've got to give you some credit, as a European former
20:16 champion. Might take a little bit.
20:17 Twice.
20:18 Twice? You did it, didn't you?
20:20 I did. I lost the first one.
20:23 What? I didn't even know you could lose that. Right, so they've got the Club World Cup,
20:27 will their brain go towards that? I'm hoping it will do. And they've got some tough fixtures
20:31 on the horizon. The Liverpool game is a really interesting game. I'm going Arsenal top because
20:35 I just can't see them. I really like Arsenal, I've said this a long time, I just see it
20:39 keep going, good fixtures and I don't see too many hiccups along the way.
20:43 Gabriel Jesus helped though.
20:45 Well, and Keddie's good against the weaker teams.
20:47 Keddie's a better goal scorer than Jesus.
20:49 And do you know what I love about Arteta? I love him so much. He dropped Lodegard and
20:53 that needed to happen. He dropped Lodegard, he's been awful.
20:57 He's playing Sheffield United at home. He's not dropping him.
21:00 Sheffield United at home, it's a tough game.
21:03 Liverpool, like you said, not enough respect. As a city, Spurs have got some hard fixtures
21:09 coming up. Let's really find out about Spurs and see what they're about because I do think
21:14 they're going to rely on Maddison and Son a lot and is that going to continue? Son's
21:17 now back to form though, right? Eight goals in the Premier League.
21:20 I know what happened last season, he's completely lost his ability.
21:23 Clinical in front of goal, isn't he? He's the second top goal scorer to join and in
21:27 front of goal he's just icing his veins.
21:29 Something about him being the most clinical striker in the last ten years or something.
21:34 Really?
21:35 Yeah, over-performed execute.
21:36 It's like we've performed that before.
21:38 Which is really good.
21:39 Yeah, he's calm, he's very calm. And then I'm going to go Brighton Fifth because Villa
21:43 have some really hard games. They've got the Man Cities, they've got Chelsea. Well,
21:48 the Chelsea fan club. Oh no, they only beat Chelsea in the Stamford Bridge. Not Chelsea.
21:51 But they've got some tough games and we've got the turn now. We've got the Sheffield
21:54 United to come. We're going to have the Forest as well.
21:57 It can't be Fulham at all.
21:59 Apparently you're allowed flying elbows in the Premier League now. And then he gets
22:02 a 25 yarder. No, we looked leggy, I'll be honest with you, we did look a little bit
22:05 leggy. Now in Europa League we're beat Ajax in midweek and that's probably us through
22:09 them so we can rest a few. Now we get a few injuries back and I just think we're kick
22:13 on. And I think we get fifth. And then Villa are sick. But Newcastle, seven, called on
22:17 the podcast. I think Newcastle are a little bit overrated. As we said that, lost at home
22:22 to Dortmund and then drew the Wolves away. And they were lucky. That penalty, it's all
22:27 about consistency, was horrible. But what I would say, the ref gave the penalty, right?
22:31 I don't mind that as much. The ref gave the penalty on the one on Sharp and stuck with
22:36 it. The one on the Man City was intervention. That's where I struggle. When a referee, Michael
22:41 Oliver, Michael Oliver, gets involved it really upsets me. So that's the top seven. That's
22:46 the Christmas Day predictions. Obviously Chelsea or Man United aren't in there but they're
22:50 being run badly and Brighton are in there. Happy days. Right, now bottom three. Now maybe
22:55 you might feel a little bit different bottom three. So who's your bottom three Christmas
22:58 Day? No, I did re-sport before but then that was my prediction for the end of the season
23:02 so I think, we're all going to agree I think it's Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United.
23:06 You think Luton will be in the bottom three, do you? For now, but I actually think they'll
23:10 give it the best fight. I think they'll be, I don't know, I think they'll go into the
23:15 last six or seven games with something to play for. Obviously Sheffield United are probably
23:20 going to, obviously probably, they're going to replace their manager at some point. Sheffield
23:24 United is just horrific out there. They're shipping so many goals. We talk about United
23:30 and no fight and then Sheffield United. I'm sorry, I don't even believe, I think you can
23:36 have a squad that's sub-par in the Premier League and if you show enough fight you can
23:40 keep games close. And they just aren't, they're just so bad. Burnley are playing bad and they
23:47 haven't got a quality in this squad but they're keeping it close, at least they're scoring
23:52 some goals. But yeah, Burnley are not adapting well, company refuses. I think with company
23:57 in Burnley the big problem is the suit and the hat. That's just a no-go. You can't wear
24:02 a suit, a suit jacket, a t-shirt and a hat. No thank you. That is relegation. Written
24:09 all over it. He should be training on his own in the academy. Luton, I think, yeah, like
24:13 I said, they'll give it a fight. It seems like Forrest will be down there. You're saying
24:17 the three promoted teams, Christmas Day. Too much of a gap. I can't see how it can be anyone
24:21 else. Is it Bournemouth? Chelsea? I mean, big result for Bournemouth at the weekend.
24:31 How many points are you Chelsea? 12. You're five points ahead of us. Sorry, I've gone
24:39 back to Bournemouth. I'm just getting excited. One day Chelsea will get relegated and I'm
24:42 here for it. Go on. Yeah, I mean, Chelsea have only had one point, 29 goals conceded,
24:48 basically three goals a game. Derby? Yeah, I'm hoping. One attack, Burnley four points,
24:55 Luton five points, Bournemouth run six points. And I don't think Bournemouth have been that,
25:01 I think they've been a bit unlucky in some, I mean, that horrendous. I don't see how Sheffield
25:08 United, Burnley and Luton aren't the bottom three at Christmas still. Again, I think Luton
25:14 might pick up some points. Maybe they'll be 18th, but I don't see any of the others.
25:21 Forrest are already on 10 points. A point a game. Sam Adelaide, she used to always say
25:26 if you average a point a game, you'll stay up, right? So 38 points will probably do it.
25:30 And they're 10-10, aren't they, Forrest? And their home record. They've got strikers that
25:34 can score goals. They've got proven strikers. I thought at the start of the season, Fulham
25:39 would struggle, just because I think, but I still think they can't score goals, but
25:43 they're still getting enough wins against. Basically, if all those other teams beat the
25:50 three promoted teams, which it looks like everyone is at the moment, they'll just stay
25:55 up. Yeah, it's sad, isn't it? It kind of ruined the Premier League a little bit. It has. You're
26:00 actually getting genuine bankers now. When Luton are playing, or Sheffield United, you're
26:04 like, well, I don't even want to watch this. And it's five-nil Arsenal and Sheffield United.
26:07 And Arsenal rested a few, or dropped a few, or whatever. They took a few out. And you're
26:11 thinking, this is not what the Premier League is about. If I was a Sheffield United fan,
26:15 I'd be like, what are you doing to me? You're just completely sitting up there. Same as
26:19 United. The same kind of, they haven't got a takeover. They'll take a home goal through.
26:23 They just can't seem to sell the club. They've got, they sold the best player in the summer
26:28 after going up. It's just, yeah, that's a tough situation. But like I said, the minimum
26:33 is a bit of fight. And they're just not showing anything at all.
26:37 There was a podcast pre-season, and a Sheffield United fan, and he goes, I'm worried. I'm
26:41 worried about the Premier League. He goes, I think we might actually not beat Derby's
26:45 record. And I thought, imagine that as a fan. You go into it, yeah, I'm really worried we
26:49 might not beat 11 points. You know, I'm like, what is going on? Yeah, it's really sad. Right,
26:54 so yeah, I agree with you. Don't see any change there, really. The only thing might be if
26:58 someone picks up a couple of home wins, but I really don't see it. It's the worst team,
27:02 maybe in the history of the Premier League. And we've got to play two of them yet, so
27:05 watch them come to the Amics and get a 1-0 win. But no, okay, so Superb, that's done.
27:10 Right, here we go, Tom's teaser. I've got a really interesting one for you today, and
27:13 it's a Premier League fact, okay. So, who is the only goalkeeper, who is the only goalkeeper
27:21 to win Premier League Player of the Season? We nearly went, didn't we? Who is the only
27:28 goalkeeper to win Premier League Player of the Season? Premier League Player of the Season?
27:34 Good question, isn't it? I don't think that has happened. Happened once, yeah. What, PFA?
27:40 Premier League Player of the Season. Only ever happened once, a goalkeeper's won it.
27:45 You know the problem when you think of a good goalkeeper is there are usually good players
27:48 in that team that would have won it instead, right? I think I've got some ideas. There
27:55 are a lot of ideas. If you want to talk out loud, please do, but that gives Jamie a little
27:59 hound, doesn't it? No. So, Premier League Player of the Season, like the PFA Player
28:05 of the Season. Only one. Oh. Pad check. Pad check, okay, pad check. Just because the
28:16 defence did. He didn't know. He didn't know? No. So you think that's wrong? Yeah, yeah,
28:24 it's wrong. It's not Peter Shankly. So I was thinking potentially De Gea that one season
28:31 where he was unreal, I think it was like 17, 18. But then, no, he wouldn't know. I don't
28:40 even know, I'm questioning this fact. It's not a question of fact, is it? Okay, I'm just
28:46 going to go for... How do you go question of fact? I hope he gets this wrong now. I'm
28:51 going to go Schmeichel. Why? Which one? Which Schmeichel? Yeah, which Schmeichel? True,
28:57 Peter Schmeichel. Oh, is that the right answer? Yeah. I thought you were going to go Kasper.
29:03 The answer is Schmeichel. It's Kasper. But it is Peter Schmeichel. It's 1996. He's the
29:09 only goalkeeper. I was going to go... He questioned the fact. I'm questioning the fact, yeah,
29:16 you're quite right. And now he has the audacity to say, "Oh yeah, I knew that." It was going
29:20 to be him. It wasn't going to be anyone in... David Heywood, you know, checked. There's
29:25 been lots of quality goalkeepers. I knew it wasn't... A goalkeeper's just used to get
29:29 that basically. Okay, right, let's get into our next topic. And the next topic is, we're
29:33 talking about gambling. Now, Tonali has been banned for 10 months, all football, yet he
29:38 can train with Newcastle. Tony has been banned for eight months, and he was not allowed to
29:43 train with Brentford. Now, obviously, there's a lot more happening, and I want to get your
29:47 views on it, because what I'm struggling with is in 2017, 2018, 14.5 billion pounds was
29:54 spent across the UK gambling, right? It shoved in your faces, advertising. Now they're naming
30:00 stadiums after it, sponsorships, right? And suddenly, they go, "Oh, all players are gambling.
30:06 We better start banning them." Let me tell you something now. There could be a lot more
30:09 players that are going to get this. If we only think these two are the only prominent
30:13 players that are gambling, then we've got a huge issue coming our way. And I'm really
30:19 struggling with the fact that they just go, "Right, they're banned." We had Paul Merson
30:21 come out, who's used to really suck on gambling. It is an addiction. And we're just going,
30:26 "Okay, yeah, you're an addict, but, you know, right, ban them for what they love doing."
30:30 And I'd love to get your views on it. I'll go with you, Louis, first. What do you think
30:32 about it? First of all, it's an item of ban. What do you think about it?
30:36 I think I understand what you're saying about, obviously, it's a problem. It's an addiction.
30:42 Like Paul Merson said, it's not something you can just be like, castigating them for.
30:48 But at the same time, you can't be betting on your own team. And they know that. They
30:55 do know it. So it's not like, "Oh, I've got an addiction, blah, blah, blah." Okay, fine,
31:03 help them with it, which they will do. They'll help them with their addiction. And they'll
31:09 probably do more, in the Premier League, maybe more awareness about it. But they do know.
31:15 They know what they're doing is wrong. And you have to ban them for it. You have to.
31:21 I don't think there's another way you can. And maybe now that Tony and Tonali have been
31:26 banned, it's like, "I don't think there's been that many of them before."
31:30 Not yet.
31:31 Yeah, but now it's kind of out in the public. I think that will definitely deter or stop
31:37 players doing it if they have been doing it before. And I think you have to ban them,
31:41 really.
31:42 But you're ostracising them. Just like Tony, you can't train the first team.
31:45 No, that's bizarre. I mean, I don't know what on earth that is going to achieve by not letting
31:51 him train the first team.
31:52 And he's the first player. So every player now will get eight months or 10 months. That's
31:55 the standard. Because what, is it going to get easier? Is it going to get harder?
31:58 Yeah, I think you've got to. You've got to do that. They know what they're doing is wrong.
32:03 You're not betting on your own team.
32:05 Okay, so the player standpoint, you agree. Player standpoint, you agree. What Louis is
32:09 saying there, the size of the ban, and he should have known.
32:11 There's a few different parts to it, right? Because as you mentioned, betting is everywhere
32:16 in football now. We've seen it take hold in America now that gambling is legal as well.
32:21 They're kind of making the same errors. You watched the playoff final last season, this
32:27 year. And the amount of places that it says the word bet is just astounding. On the players'
32:34 shirts, around the boards, around the stadium, and the fans as well. Probably people are
32:38 not considering their role in this in terms of, it's not good for them either, ultimately.
32:43 I think that's the bigger problem.
32:44 It's everywhere. The awareness isn't good enough. The help for players isn't good enough.
32:47 I know they do awareness courses and stuff, but there's more that needs to be done. But
32:52 to Louis' point, you have to, it's a very difficult thing to be addicted to something,
32:58 I get that. I don't want to conflate those two things. But players going into professional
33:03 careers know there's certain things they're not allowed to do. And this is one of them.
33:07 And you know, the Chelsea shirt, there's a similar era to Adrien Mouton. I don't want
33:11 to conflate two different addictions. But there are other addictions that people have
33:16 as well, they do that gets them banned from football, that they can't do. And they know,
33:20 they know from the start they can't do it. They know from when they're 15 year olds,
33:23 you can't do it. It's not just now that betting is big. They're always not allowed to do it.
33:30 And they know to the extent of, and I know it's difficult when you're addicted to something,
33:34 but they know to the extent of, they're often making bets through other people because they
33:38 know it's illegal. They want to do it with different people's names. They know they're
33:41 going extra steps to avoid the rules. Whenever that's happening, you just can't, you can't
33:45 tolerate that. And with Tony, I think that he's allowed to train now. I think there's
33:50 a certain time frame that he can't train for. And I think that's just as part of punishment.
33:56 They can't have people, you can't say you're punished, you can't play football, but you
34:00 can play football every day and go and train with your friends. And that's the reason you
34:05 can't, there's got to be some element of serious punishment. You can't come back fit and firing
34:10 that's better than anyone.
34:11 Well, Tonali, they're allowing Tonali to train.
34:13 Which is, that's the discrepancy. That shouldn't be allowed. But the problem is they, you know,
34:16 one has been, the FA has given it one, the Italian FA, and they've got some sort of,
34:21 there should be some sort of set punishment from UEFA or someone else should handle it
34:25 then. But yeah, the bottom line is, A, football's not doing enough and it's a disgrace how much
34:31 betting is taking over. And you know, thankfully now the shirts are going to have to take off
34:35 the betting sponsors in the Premier League. The second thing is, it's an addiction and
34:40 very difficult and people should have much more help play as well because people who
34:44 have a lot more money to spend often fall into this trap. And on football buses, they
34:48 play cards and all these things as well. And thirdly, they also do know the rules from
34:53 a very young age and if they're going out of their way to avoid the rules, you've just
34:57 got to punish that.
34:58 Yeah, no, it's obviously a huge market. I was talking 14.5 billion. That was a gambling
35:03 commission. That was 2017/18. That would have grown. That would have, there's more and more
35:07 bookies now and we're getting thrown our faces. You know, we watch a game of football, half
35:11 time, put this bet on, you know.
35:13 They were banning that, see.
35:15 Yeah, they're going to ban the shirts for the next three or four years. It's very slow
35:18 and at that point, they're probably going to change their minds. And I just really struggle
35:21 when we shove something in someone's faces and players go, "Oh, do you know what? You
35:25 know, you're wrong and here's a huge ban because I just don't believe in a million years, these
35:29 are the only two players at it." And I think it's only a matter of time before you go,
35:33 "Yeah, this player, this player, this player, this player," and then we're going to have
35:35 a huge sort of pandemic and I just think gambling is a hidden disease that we've not really
35:39 talked about enough.
35:41 Yeah, and look, even Tony, every piece of training wear and every piece of football
35:45 shirt, you put on another bet and sponsor on it. It was Hollywood Bets that was on there.
35:49 Yeah, and so, you know, that's in his face every day. And if you're already a betting
35:53 addict, that's just another reminder to put your bet on.
35:56 Yeah, I think the problem as well is that young guys have got loads of money and loads
36:00 of time, I guess, thinking, "That's it, I've got money to lose, right? And money they're
36:04 willing to lose." But we can't take that all to pass. Like I said, the fans as well, some
36:10 people haven't got money in this little exact situation.
36:13 That's the target, right?
36:15 Yeah, so they're only 30,000 fans at an average stadium in the top, say, two or three tiers
36:20 of English football and they're sitting in a betting, a stadium named after betting,
36:24 wearing a t-shirt with a betting sponsor on it with betting going on the advertising boards
36:28 and betting on the screen.
36:30 Betting in the ground as well.
36:32 Yeah, for no other addiction would you have that. You can't advertise that at home.
36:35 It's a secret addiction, isn't it? Because you go like, I went to Old Trafford recently
36:38 and suddenly you've got a gambling bit in Old Trafford. It's like, "Here you go, come
36:41 on, bet on marching alphanumeric on Scoria. Come on, bring it in." And you're thinking
36:44 about it, you go and get a drink and you put a bet on. There's a huge queue, bigger than
36:47 the actual bar and you're thinking, "Hang on a minute. Oh wow, this is picked up, isn't
36:51 it?" You can do it on your phone, you can do it in two seconds. And that's my only worry.
36:56 You can't advertise drugs, you can't advertise medication, you can't advertise beer with
37:00 alcohol in it in the Premier League. You can't even drink by your seat if you drink underneath.
37:05 And yet you can sit in your seat and put a bet on because someone's just told you to
37:09 on the board or the sponsor buy.
37:11 I do think in the coming years it's something that will change massively.
37:15 I think so.
37:16 Like advertising for sure. I don't think... I thought they stopped, they're meant to stop
37:21 you know, like in play with Ray at this time when he comes on with like 2-0, Arsenal at
37:26 14-1. You go, "Oh, yeah, yeah, I'll do that."
37:29 Yeah, but obviously you go, "Arizona, that's good." But 14-1?
37:33 I think, I don't know, to be fair, I'm not watching on Sky Sports enough now whether
37:37 that happens still or not. But I think that needs to change for sure. I don't think...
37:41 I don't see... I think we'll look back at it in 10 years' time and be like, "Wow, I can't
37:45 believe that was still allowed." Like the same thing we do with smoking or whatever.
37:50 Yeah, because I don't think... There's nothing wrong with betting of course. And it's people
37:53 that control it, right? Betting's fine if you're doing it with friends or you're doing...
37:56 It's when you're getting out, when you're just putting bets on, as I say, you're putting
37:59 bets on and you're financially watching the Polish Premier League on a Tuesday night because
38:04 you're back in five or more yellow cards. You know, I've got a bit of a problem here.
38:07 The Premier League's responsible for all this. They should have cut this out years ago. The
38:10 reason it hasn't is it's benefited them massively. They've taken so much money from it. And we're
38:15 seeing the same with NFL now. They're raking it all in. And they know in two or three years
38:20 they're going to have to go back and say, "Oh, we can't do this and that." So they know
38:25 there's a time frame where they can make the mistakes and no-one will ask them questions.
38:29 The government would love it as well. They're getting all the money from it.
38:31 And then afterwards now we're going to go back and say, "Oh, it's such a shame that
38:34 everyone's addicted." Well, it's not. You should have known.
38:36 "It's such a shame that everyone's addicted." What was the odds on that? Two to one.
38:38 Exactly.
38:39 Okay, yeah. So yeah, I just think, yeah, so we talk about that. I think it's a huge issue.
38:43 And I just do not believe that the last player... I think you'll get a lot of players that are
38:47 going to come out and be like, "Yeah, they're banned, they're banned, they're banned, they're
38:50 banned." So maybe that will help awareness.
38:52 All right. Best bets.
38:54 Yeah, yeah. And from that, best bets, right? But best bets responsibly, okay?
38:58 Responsibly, yeah.
38:59 And we're winning, so if you're winning, right? No, best bets responsibly. And there's been
39:03 huge news, best bets. Get the claxon alert. Are you ready for it? Louis Sorts won a bet.
39:09 Boom.
39:10 Boom.
39:11 Yeah, Bournemouth. Finally.
39:12 Told you, you knew it.
39:13 Bournemouth.
39:14 We laughed at him.
39:15 I laughed my heart out.
39:16 The bet that he looked at the counter and went, "I don't want to bet on this. I'm not
39:18 sure." But you did it and you won how much?
39:22 43, 33, I think.
39:24 I'll tell you what. So now overall, you're about 15 down?
39:27 Which is a great out of the booth bet response. He's won and he's still down after six weeks.
39:31 After six weeks. Because one week he was off. He was in cycling.
39:34 The lesson is there to be learned.
39:35 So you've lost five out of six bets, right? You eventually win a bet you didn't want to
39:39 bet on and it comes on home and you're down 17.
39:42 I think I've been a bit unfortunate to be fair on some of them.
39:44 This is one. Yeah, and you have been very, very lucky. So you're a poor man of 2-1. Obviously,
39:48 Vince and company would be fuming at you because that offside decision at the end was-
39:52 I've never seen an offside take so long.
39:54 A record time.
39:55 Was it? It must have been over five minutes. They took so long. It was offside.
39:59 Yeah, it was offside. His head was offside. So born with get it done, did you see the winning goal?
40:03 James Trafford, the goalkeeper. What has he done?
40:06 Yes, yes I did. Yeah. That's quite good though.
40:09 No, Billing chipped it but gave me a break. Trafford, you've got to save that big feat. Come on.
40:14 Right, well done. 45 in the bank. Guess what? 45 win as well.
40:18 I said in the podcast that Wolves, Newcastle, Newcastle are ready to finish 2-2.
40:23 If you really-
40:25 If I really went for it, I could have got 2-2 and I would have been cashing in.
40:29 So 45 for me as well, which puts me profit. Here we go, plus eight. Plus eight. Let's go on holiday.
40:35 And then Jamie, unfortunately you didn't get a win but we know you're up overall, right?
40:39 I'm up 20 still. Chelsea let me down after four games. They were the one on the first team to let me down so it wasn't anything.
40:44 Never back the lunchtime kick-off. You had one lunchtime. Never back Chelsea. I backed Chelsea once and lost as well.
40:49 So yeah, still on 20, £75.
40:52 Flying. Absolutely flying.
40:54 House money.
40:55 Yeah, house money. Okay, so this week then, Louis, what have you gone for?
40:59 I've gone for Man City to beat Bournemouth at home to nil, which I think is very good odds. It's 8-11.
41:08 Well, that is good odds, yeah.
41:09 Considering they're 9-1 on to win. Anyway, so just to keep a clean sheet.
41:15 Go on, Everton, Brighton, both teams to score.
41:19 Clean sheet on the horizon, people. Brighton will be keeping a clean sheet soon.
41:23 The first... No, I'm actually just going to do a double because I'm not confident on the last one.
41:28 Another one, another one, another one.
41:30 Yeah, so Brighton on the first team to have their first 10 Premier League games, both teams to score.
41:35 Entertaining. Put us on TV every game.
41:37 Which obviously now I've got the best on it, it's probably not going to happen.
41:42 I think Everton are a bit back in form, Calvert-Lewin scoring. Hopefully, yeah, both teams to score in that.
41:49 And then, yeah, so £10 returns £25. Hopefully end in profit.
41:55 End in profit. What a fitting end that will be. Up and down your journey.
42:01 Jamie, you're obviously up. You can only finish in the green.
42:04 That's true, yeah.
42:05 That's true, yeah. Me and Louis are up against it because I've got plus eight, so I could go down.
42:08 You're down at the moment. So, what have you gone for the last week?
42:11 Quite simple. Liverpool are away at Luton. We spoke about Luton's struggle.
42:15 So, I've got them minus two, so to win by three goals.
42:17 Minus two away at Luton.
42:19 What's staggering though, right? Liverpool, in 14 games this season, have scored three or more, eight times.
42:26 Eight times?
42:27 Out of 14.
42:28 Wow.
42:29 No competition.
42:30 Yeah, Europa League, they have.
42:31 No, no, that's it.
42:32 Same though.
42:33 Which league is?
42:34 Not in the Europa League, but 2875 anyway, so we'll take that.
42:40 Liverpool are playing.
42:41 Yeah, Liverpool are playing. I've gone for Wolverhampton to get a win at Sheffield United because they're the worst team in the history of the Premier League.
42:49 And Evens, that's a pretty nice little TCT. 20, and I'll be up. If I lose, I'll be down two. If I'm up, 28, and off we go.
42:58 So, the pressure's on us, mate.
42:59 I'm quite tempted to...
43:00 Can't be adding any extras now.
43:02 No, no, no.
43:03 Five nil City.
43:04 Five nil City. Just a bang on five nil.
43:07 14 to one.
43:08 Right, anyway, okay, so 15 away, that's best bets done. So, now we're on the quiz, okay? Now the quiz.
43:14 I am Sheffield United in this quiz.
43:17 You are, yeah, you are. I actually had a Sheffield United question in here, which I might have to change. Right, so let's go quiz, okay? If you know it, jump on in. No Googling us.
43:26 I'm not.
43:27 I'm only joking. Right, okay, so question one. And for those getting involved with the YouTube Shorts, thank you. Really good engagement, and see if you can beat Louis or Jamie.
43:35 So, question one. Which player, which player has scored the most goals in Manchester derbies?
43:44 Wayne Rooney.
43:48 Oh, I did go back.
43:50 What?
43:51 It's true. I'm going for Wayne Rooney.
43:53 Which player has scored the most goals...
43:55 I saw goals and assists.
43:57 ...in Manchester derbies, yeah, around gigs or something.
43:59 Yeah.
44:00 But that's not the question.
44:01 Yeah.
44:02 So, you've gone for Wayne Rooney. Interesting.
44:06 I'm trying to think of longevity, but...
44:09 There are two players whose longevity are ten goals who I've never heard of. But this player has 11 goals.
44:15 Is that right?
44:17 It's Wayne Rooney.
44:18 Is it?
44:19 Yeah, it's Wayne Rooney. I think you're going to jump in a panic. It is Wayne Rooney, yeah?
44:22 When you said it was only 11, I just said...
44:24 Also, Haaland is going to catch that soon.
44:26 Guerreiro, what was he?
44:27 I would have said it was nine.
44:28 Haaland has more than Cristiano Ronaldo already, because he has four in two games.
44:32 Yeah, I was thinking Ronaldo, but not longevity. It's not Guerreiro, but...
44:35 Haaland has four in three games.
44:37 Okay, next one. 1-0. Good start from you.
44:40 Next one is Rafa Benitez has managed how many clubs in the Premier League?
44:46 Just a number. Rafa Benitez has managed how many clubs?
44:49 Four.
44:50 1-1.
44:51 Oh, he's just gone for it. He's just gone for it straight away.
44:53 Can you name them?
44:54 Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool.
44:56 Well done. Well done.
44:57 I was a bit worried about that question, because I was worried that you might know that from Rafa Benitez.
45:01 1-1.
45:02 I should have just gone for it.
45:03 Would you take Rafa Benitez back at Chelsea now?
45:05 No, no way.
45:06 No way. Okay, next one. Who am I? Who am I, okay?
45:10 Right, who is this player? I'm going to name their clubs. If you know them, jump on in.
45:14 Right, start that. Mets, Newcastle, Fulham, Manchester United, Everton.
45:25 Spurs, Sunderland, Lazio.
45:32 Wait, can you say it again? Can you say them again?
45:37 Mets, Newcastle, Fulham, Manchester United, Everton.
45:45 Oh, Louis Saha.
45:47 Louis Saha. 2-1. What a striking eagle, by the way.
45:50 I liked him. I always liked him.
45:51 Right. 2-1. We talk about this club a lot. I don't know whether to go for them or mix it up a little bit.
45:59 No, I'm going to go for my question 5 first. 2-1.
46:05 Question 4, this is quite a big answer, isn't it?
46:08 This season, which player from a team in the bottom 10 has the most assists overall?
46:19 They have the most assists but a clue, they play for a team in the bottom 10. Who is that player?
46:23 I saw this.
46:26 Oh, came up.
46:29 Basically, who has the most Premier League assists this season?
46:32 Neto?
46:33 Pedro Neto is a good answer.
46:35 I don't know.
46:36 I have a feeling. What? I don't think it was in there. Fulham was charged for goals, wasn't it?
46:48 It is Pedro Neto. It was 7.
46:50 He's got 7 assists.
46:52 I thought you might get that, you're Pedro Neto.
46:55 Right, 3-1. Got one question left. If you get it right, I'll give you my tie-break question anyway.
46:59 Right, last season, which team won a Premier League game with 18% possession?
47:07 Last season?
47:08 Yeah.
47:09 Which team won a game with 18% possession?
47:13 Last season, Leeds at Liverpool.
47:17 I'm going to go...
47:19 It's not Leeds at Liverpool, no.
47:20 I'm going to go...
47:22 It's going to be a struggle at short.
47:24 Was it Everton against Brighton?
47:26 It wasn't Everton against Brighton.
47:27 I know.
47:28 It was. Right at the end of last season, don't even remember, derailed Arsenal's title hopes.
47:33 Fulham?
47:34 Nottingham Forest beat Arsenal 1-0, 18%.
47:38 Here's a question I was going to ask earlier to the Neto and see if you got it.
47:41 We know Sheffield United have one point, but who did they get that one point against?
47:47 Everton.
47:48 What was it called?
47:49 2-2.
47:50 2-2, it was, yeah. As if they'd got one point at home at Everton.
47:53 Right, that's the quiz, Louis. You are the quiz champion, as always. You just come on through.
47:58 Louis Saha, big answer as always. And that's the podcast. Thanks for watching.