'Big Brother 25' Mecole Hayes Exit Interview

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Contestant Mecole Hayes chats with EW about her time on 'Big Brother 25'

Transcript

00:00 (dramatic music)

00:02 - Nicole, it seemed like the entire house

00:07 was ready to send Felicia out the door,

00:10 and then instead you're knocked out unanimously,

00:12 seven to zero.

00:13 What do you think happened?

00:14 - I mean, I think that what I knew going into this week

00:19 is although I was being painted as the pawn,

00:22 I knew that there was a strong possibility

00:24 that I could easily become the target.

00:25 I knew that people would possibly perceive me

00:28 to be the stronger competitor

00:30 and that I had a social game.

00:32 And so while unfortunate, also not surprising to me.

00:36 - We gotta talk about the exit.

00:38 For a few things, first off,

00:39 you refused to hug Corey on your way out.

00:41 Why is that?

00:42 - I know that he was responsible for flipping the vote.

00:46 I have been a victim to his vote flipping, unfortunately,

00:50 and also have been a part of it in evictions prior to.

00:54 So, you know, I knew that he had played some role in it.

00:57 And I also knew that America had played

00:59 a heavy role in it as well.

01:00 So I did think that it was authentic of me, if you will,

01:05 to do the hugging and the kiki-ing with them

01:10 while they were secretly plotting my demise.

01:13 So I opted out.

01:14 - You called Corey, America, and Bowie, Jane out

01:16 on your way out the door,

01:17 and then you pointed at the people they were targeting.

01:20 You had the camera angle.

01:21 What we saw, we couldn't see who you were pointing at.

01:24 So who, tell us, walk us through exactly

01:26 what you were doing there,

01:27 who you were pointing out and saying

01:28 were next on their hit list.

01:30 - So I was pointing out Jag, Matt, and Baloo.

01:34 So earlier that week, during my pitch,

01:38 I was having a conversation with America,

01:39 and she was just like, you know,

01:41 me, you, and Corey, like, we've all worked together before,

01:43 and we'd like to continue this moving forward.

01:45 Like, who else do you feel comfortable with?

01:47 And I was like, ah, I really don't feel like I have anyone,

01:49 especially Mama Feeleys.

01:51 I kind of feel like I'm out here alone, besides you two.

01:53 I don't feel like I can trust anyone.

01:55 And she was like, oh, well, I love Bowie Jane.

01:57 You should get to know Bowie Jane.

01:58 She's so smart.

02:00 She really trusts Corey.

02:01 She looks to him as sort of an advisor.

02:04 So I really think you should get to know Bowie Jane.

02:06 And I was just like,

02:07 ah, I don't really know about that, per se, but sure.

02:12 So, you know, my plan on the way out

02:15 was just to tell a little white lie

02:17 and also spill a little tea.

02:19 You know, America seemed to know so much about Bowie Jane.

02:22 So I figured the rest of the house

02:23 should know how much she knows about her.

02:25 - Just throw a little bomb over your shoulder

02:27 as you walk out the door?

02:28 - Yeah, just throw a little bomb over my shoulder.

02:31 You know, America was always saying,

02:32 Mimi doesn't talk game to me.

02:34 She doesn't talk game to me.

02:35 Everyone is saying that they didn't know where I stood.

02:37 And I also don't think that they know

02:39 where each other stand either.

02:41 So it was just a convenient characterization.

02:44 So I figured that I'd make them scramble a little bit

02:46 before I walked out the door.

02:48 - Let's talk about your strategy

02:49 once you were put on the block.

02:50 It seemed to be sort of, hey, hang back,

02:52 not make waves, maybe let Felicia dig her own grave here.

02:56 Why didn't that work?

02:57 And do you think you should have been

02:59 maybe a little more aggressive making some deals?

03:01 - I could have been a little more aggressive,

03:03 but part of me wanted to stay true to how I played the game,

03:07 which was to not go around making a bunch of BS deals

03:11 that I knew I couldn't really hold true to.

03:14 You know, I don't really like to speak for my future self.

03:17 You learn that while working in politics,

03:19 you only wanna speak to what you're able to do

03:21 in the present tense.

03:22 So, you know, my strategy that week

03:24 was to lay as low as possible,

03:26 but also not to seem too frazzled or too worried,

03:29 although I was super anxious

03:31 and not getting much sleep that week.

03:33 And I knew that Mama Fee is a fighter

03:36 and that she would obviously campaign for herself.

03:37 And I didn't think that she would campaign against me,

03:40 but I knew that she would go around making a lot of deals

03:42 and promising a lot of things that people knew

03:45 that she wouldn't be able to hold up to.

03:46 So I wanted my strategy to be opposite of that

03:49 when I went into those conversations.

03:50 - I mean, it seemed like, and you tell me,

03:52 it seemed like it sort of mirrored your strategy

03:54 for the game, which was keep a low profile,

03:56 let the flashier folks keep taking shots at each other

03:59 and I'll just hang right here and like avoid the crossfire.

04:01 - Yeah, I mean, well,

04:03 so I've spent my career working in politics.

04:06 So I've been, you know,

04:08 tasked with tons of important decisions.

04:11 And I know that oftentimes when you are a decision maker

04:14 and a mover and shaker,

04:16 while it could seem to be a more popular position,

04:21 you also tend to get a lot of envy

04:23 and you also tend to make yourself a target.

04:26 And that's what I did not wanna do in this game.

04:28 I knew that the house would be filled

04:30 with tons of big personalities

04:32 and tons of masterminds and strategists.

04:35 And I didn't come here to win America's favorite player.

04:37 I came here to win $750,000.

04:39 So I figured that I'd let the big personalities

04:41 get their shine on where I kind of hung back

04:44 and see what it was like in the backyard.

04:47 - Speaking of big personality,

04:48 so how does your view of the game

04:51 and the alliances in the house change now

04:54 knowing that Sari and Jared are mother and son?

04:58 - Oh, it changes.

05:00 Okay, first of all, I am still shook, okay?

05:02 Like I had a nightmare about them being mother and son.

05:06 Because so many things make sense to me now.

05:09 I'm like, oh, epiphany.

05:11 But it really does change everything.

05:14 I kept thinking to myself,

05:15 why is she spending so much time up there?

05:17 They seem to have such a close relationship.

05:19 At some point he moved out of the scary room

05:21 and into the comic room.

05:22 And after losing the zombie resurrection,

05:27 he was in there and he was tearful and crying.

05:29 And she was talking to him and consoling him.

05:32 And even out during the zombie resurrection,

05:34 she was cheering him on.

05:34 And was the only one out there that was verbally

05:37 coaching him through what was going on.

05:39 And now that I sit back and know

05:42 that they are mother and son,

05:43 I'm like, wow, this all makes sense.

05:44 I'm such an idiot.

05:45 How did I miss that?

05:46 - Give me your analyst hat for a second.

05:48 Who's playing the best game in the house?

05:49 Not necessarily who you want to win,

05:51 but who's playing the best so far?

05:53 I think a lot can change between now and finale,

05:55 but right now at this point, who's playing the best?

05:57 - It's so hard to say, but if I had to pick anyone,

06:02 I would probably say Matt.

06:05 Just because he is well-liked

06:07 and well-received in the house.

06:09 He also has the ability to win comps,

06:12 although he hasn't won that many,

06:13 he has shown that he can win if and when necessary.

06:17 And I just think that people love Matt

06:20 and is someone who, while they know they probably can't beat

06:24 at the end of this game,

06:25 is someone that they would probably like to take

06:27 to the end of this game.

06:28 So I probably have to go with Matt.

06:29 - Who are you rooting for to win this game?

06:31 - Oh, it's so hard to say, 'cause I hate everybody.

06:34 But if I had to pick two people to sit

06:36 in those final two chairs, I'm going,

06:40 okay, I'm gonna go Matt and Serene.

06:43 - This is a question for anyone that doesn't win the game.

06:45 If you could get a do-over and go back

06:48 and change anything you did during the game

06:50 that would maybe take you down a different path

06:53 that leads to you not talking to me right now,

06:56 what would it be?

06:57 - I would probably try to trust more people.

07:01 I think my downfall in this game

07:02 is that I truly trusted no one.

07:05 And so I just didn't feel comfortable sharing my strategy

07:08 and sharing all of my thoughts and opinions,

07:10 because the house is like the leaky faucet.

07:12 Once you say it once, it just kind of spreads everywhere.

07:16 And so I would really try to align myself

07:18 with people that I can trust.

07:19 I think that I tried to do that with the Brown Sugar Babes

07:21 and then I heard about the idea to potentially blindside me

07:26 on the Izzy Felicia vote.

07:28 And so that really just altered my trust.

07:30 And from there, I was just like,

07:32 oh no, I can't trust any of you.

07:34 So I'd probably find more people that I could trust

07:36 and really try to stick to that.

07:37 - What's more cutthroat, politics or Big Brother?

07:40 - Oh, politics, 100%.

07:41 You have so many avenues that you can explore in politics.

07:45 You go from being a representative to a senator,

07:47 to maybe attorney general, governor, vice president,

07:49 so on and so forth.

07:51 Big Brother, you can only win so many HOHs and VNOs.

07:54 - Well, I don't know if you've been caught up,

07:55 but there's been some cutthroat political stuff

07:57 happening over the past week.

07:58 - No, I have not been caught up.

08:01 - I'll wait for you to get your phone back,

08:03 but there's been some things happening there

08:05 that are maybe just as crazy

08:07 as in the Big Brother house for the past week.

08:11 Final question, Nicole,

08:13 just how messy and germ infested is the Big Brother house?

08:16 - Oh, it's disgusting.

08:17 It is terrible.

08:18 I mean, the bathrooms, horrendous.

08:21 First of all, I would go into the bathroom stall

08:23 and put tissue on my nose

08:25 because it literally stunk so bad.

08:28 The shower is terrible.

08:29 I would take 15, 20 minute showers with my eyes closed

08:33 because there are clumps of hair everywhere,

08:35 have open bottles of shampoo and body wash.

08:39 The bathroom sinks are always wet

08:41 and filled with mouthwash or water.

08:43 The dishes are never washed.

08:45 The floor is never swept.

08:46 It's disgusting.

08:47 It's horrible.

08:48 The kids are gross.

08:49 - Not your problem anymore.

08:50 - Not my problem anymore, no.

08:52 I will not sweep another floor.

08:54 I will not clean another bathroom.

08:57 I will not wipe down another counter.

08:58 That is somebody else's problem.

09:00 (whooshing)

09:02 [BLANK_AUDIO]

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