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2015 BMW M4 vs. 2015 Lexus RC F – Head 2 Head Ep. 59
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10/5/2023
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Two rear-drive luxury coupes turned into 400+ horsepower tire-smoking machines.
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This head-to-head sets itself up pretty nicely, doesn't it?
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This is the manliest thing I've ever done in my life!
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The newcomer this time is the Lexus RC F, which means it's the fast version of the RC
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Coupe.
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It's powered by a 467-horse naturally aspirated V8 and drives its rear wheels through an 8-speed
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automatic.
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The simplicity ends there, though, as this model has an electronically controlled torque-vectoring
00:46
differential that employs two electric motors, two planetary gear sets, and two clutches
00:51
to help distribute power to each wheel correctly.
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The design?
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It's different, to put it kindly.
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But looking at the dimensions, it's easy to see the car Lexus was targeting.
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That would be the BMW M4.
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Yeah, BMW's dropped the M3 Coupe name, but the bigger shock might be that BMW's also
01:09
dropped naturally aspirated engines.
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Its twin-turbo 3-liter straight-six may be down 42 horse to the RC F, but it makes 17-pound
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feet more torque.
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This model also has BMW's 7-speed twin-clutch automatic gearbox and carbon-ceramic brakes
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as options.
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Crucially, it's carrying over 400 pounds less than the Lexus.
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The M4 edges out the RC F at the test track.
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With a better power-to-weight ratio and a more effective launch, the M4 reaches 60 three-tenths
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of a second before the RC F.
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Its advantage extends to a half-second and 5.0 miles an hour at the quarter-mile, showing
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that the M4 gets out of the hole slightly better and accelerates stronger as the run
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continues.
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Braking performance again goes to the M4.
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Its best stop from 60 took just 98 feet.
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The RC F required 9 feet more at 107 feet.
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The M4 completes its figure-eight lap 7/10 of a second faster than the RC F. It also
02:35
generates .06 higher average lateral G.
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Immediately what I like about the RC F more than the M4 is that sound.
03:01
It's coming courtesy of a V8 that's revving nice and cleanly up in slightly past 7,000
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RPM.
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I'm going to miss that.
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I'm really going to miss that kind of thing as all these sort of performance luxury coupe
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and sedans move to twin-turbo engines.
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There's just something about revving out a naturally aspirated engine, that instant response
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it gives you on the throttle, and that's a nice sound.
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It's not a beautiful sing-song noise, but it's a nice guttural roar.
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But the RC F is an interesting car.
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I really like the IS F. This car is a little bit more overt.
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This thing is really in your face with its design and everything that's happening in
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here.
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And there's parts of it that I don't like in terms of aesthetics, but I appreciate the
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effort.
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This car has a certain charisma just in the look of it that the M4 doesn't.
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Now handling.
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Dynamically, this is not on par with the M4.
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We know this thing has lower performance numbers.
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We know a lot of that is because it weighs so much more than the M4 and has less torque.
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Yet, if you were to drive it in isolation, you wouldn't really care because it's pretty
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fun.
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With really accurate, precise steering, you have, again, that lovely sound.
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And it's really easy to point and shoot.
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You don't have to worry too much about crazy in your face oversteer.
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You don't have to worry about the finer elements of control.
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This is fun in a way that's not as aggressive as the M4, but still pretty enjoyable.
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When you really start getting out to the dynamic edge, though, I feel this comes up a little
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bit short.
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It's not as nimble as the M4.
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It's not as playful.
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The tail is nowhere near as active or as engaging as the M4's is.
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The chassis is, again, stable.
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The steering feels good.
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The throttle response is really good, too.
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The braking power is strong.
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And if you work it a little bit, you can just get the slightest bit of oversteer.
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Of course, if you were to flick it in, you could do big drifts all day.
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Yeah, there we go.
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There we go.
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But ultimately, you sense the weight.
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In the slower corners and some of the switchbacks, when you're low in the tack and you can't
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really downshift to first, you sense the weight is a problem.
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And 4,000 pounds or so for a two-door sports coupe is rather shocking, just to be frank
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about it.
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That's a lot of car in terms of mass.
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And it comes up and hurts this car dynamically pretty much throughout the board.
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That said, you're not going to be disappointed with this car, I don't think at all.
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In fact, if you're a fan of the styling, if you're a fan of the V8, this thing for you
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will be a better choice than the M4.
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But if you're searching for that extra thrilling edge, I think the M4 is the way to go.
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This is a good car.
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The addition of all that torque makes for a completely different driving experience.
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You can be a little bit lazier with your gear selection, you can be a little bit lazier
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with your throttle, but you can focus more on the steering and putting the car exactly
06:45
where you want it.
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I really like the rear end of this car.
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It's tailored so nicely, and you can use the throttle in conjunction with the steering
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to help the car rotate through a corner.
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That diff really helps the car turn.
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You get legit throttle steer, and that can really help you adjust your line when you
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feel brave enough to commit to it.
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And when you do get a little oversteer, it's so easy to correct that the whole process
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is just so much fun to drive.
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Now one advantage this has over the RC F is that it's 400 pounds lighter, and that makes
07:19
for improvements everywhere in the driving experience.
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The corners feel better, the acceleration feels sharper, the braking is improved.
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You can't get around, wait, you can't fight that.
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And although the RC F makes more horsepower, the torque in this thing makes this car feel
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more powerful.
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If I do have a complaint, it's the sound of the straight six.
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It just isn't as sing-song as the last gen M3's V8, and it doesn't sound as good as the
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RC F's V8 either.
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Okay but forget all that, because the chassis in this car is so, so good.
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The car is precise, it's agile, you can bend it to your whim, and you end up going really,
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really fast, looking back on the things that you just did a few corners behind you going,
08:19
"I probably, hmm, I shouldn't have done that."
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But you did, and you had a great time.
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Little oversteer there, that's fine.
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Coming up over this hill, it's a really fun one to take flat.
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Then like a little bit of oversteer at 105 miles an hour to make your day.
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Oh man.
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This car is so powerful, but also so balanced and so controllable.
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It gives you all the options with regard to handling that you want.
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You can make it stable, you can upset it, slide it around like crazy.
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You can control it through steering, through balancing the weight around the chassis, through
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throttle application, through braking.
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It makes for a simply delightful, delightful handling machine when you know what you're
09:20
doing.
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It's addicting putting this car around corners, lining up apexes, knocking them down.
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It can be neat and tidy when you want it to be, and then it can be an absolute drift machine
09:33
when you want it to be.
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And that's what I love about a good sports car, is it gives you that kind of flexibility.
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The RCF has its work cut out for them, so does the new C63, the Audi, whatever, RS4,
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Cadillac CTS-V or ATS-V, whatever they end up doing.
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They've got some real work cut out for them.
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But how can we fully test these two without a visit to the track?
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Also the Lexus changed colors.
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Yeah, rev out that V8 in the Lexus RCF.
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There's a little flap that opens up in the intake.
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Sounds and feels like a racing engine.
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The Lexus puts down power really well, very little wheel spin, as long as you're driving
10:45
with any kind of sense.
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It accelerates very well off the corner.
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Transmission is terrific, quick, ultra smooth upshifts and downshifts.
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It's got a little beep just as we get to redline.
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I like that.
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The Lexus puts the power to the ground.
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I give Lexus a lot of credit for that.
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A couple of laps in and the brakes are still very strong.
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I'm not a fan of the car being so soft in a roll.
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I had a race engineer once tell me that softness is grip as long as you can stand the roll.
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We got a little float here through the 100 mile an hour sweeper.
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It's funny, we have the advantage that softness is compliance, soaks up the bumps.
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That's good in ride and that gives good control on the big bumps.
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Downside is in a transition, it just takes forever for the weight to transfer.
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Seems to slow the car down a little bit.
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On power, understeer, all the way around the banked bowl.
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See that?
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We got a little push under acceleration.
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Whereas the BMW has a tendency to want to spin the rears and get the car all sideways.
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Little different personality.
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We can drift it if we want, but it doesn't do it unless you really make it get sideways.
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You got to force it.
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So it's well balanced definitely on the understeer side in terms of its chassis balance.
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Whereas the BMW is on the oversteer side in its chassis balance.
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The Lexus is a softer package, great brakes, wonderful engine.
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I find myself missing that fat delicious torque that the BMW delivers on the low end and I
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don't like the soft shocks and roll in the transitions out here on the race track.
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The M4 Turbo, six cylinder, sounds like a V8 and pulls like a V8.
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The power is really impressive.
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Just keeps pulling as the revs rise.
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Very little sensation of lag.
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Feel that torque just digging from the mid-range RPM out of the corner.
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It's asking a lot of those big Michelins though.
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400 pound feet of torque means you roll the throttle in to keep the rear tires hooked
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up on track.
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But in second gear I got to be really careful with the power or I can just light it up.
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A lot of torque.
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See?
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The steering is quick and precise.
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It's a BMW.
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We'd expect that.
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So it makes those oversteer moments pretty easy to catch.
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Transmission is a sweetheart.
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You can adjust the aggressiveness and we had it right in the middle.
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Quick but not harsh.
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I can downshift right in the middle of the corner as I just did.
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Don't even feel it.
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That's how a good shift is.
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You don't feel it.
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Braking, as you'd expect, powerful.
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I'm not getting any fade.
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Only time the ABS can't keep up is if I hit a big bump in a hard braking zone.
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It interferes.
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But, you know, it's trying to keep that tire from locking up.
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Into the fast kink.
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We're bouncing, we're turning, we're braking.
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And let me tell you, the shock absorbers are doing a great job.
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The M4 is well damped.
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Without harshness.
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We have the control and we have the compliance.
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This is the non-adjustable version.
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And the car is extremely well damped in transitions.
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I really like the combination of the compliance over the bumps.
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And then the tight body control as we turn in.
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See, there's not a strong sensation of roll.
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This car is really working.
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I like the M4.
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The Lexus RCF engine is just a delicious, racy V8.
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But the understeer and the soft shocks mean that if I were to pick one for the track,
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I'd go with the BMW M4.
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And now, a tire rack hot lap.
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