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2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1: Meet the Supercar Destroying Camaro!
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10/4/2023
On this episode of Ignition presented by Tire Rack
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00:00
(dramatic music)
00:02
This is the Chevy Camaro SS1LE.
00:16
It's loud, it's rear wheel drive,
00:22
and it's got the same V8 engine as a Corvette.
00:29
But, because it's a 1LE, it's also one of the very best
00:33
handling cars on earth.
00:36
Need proof?
00:36
Well, at last year's Best Driver's Car competition,
00:39
it finished in fourth place in front of,
00:43
oh, I don't know, an Audi R8 V10 Plus,
00:46
the Dodge Viper ACR, and a Jaguar F-Type SVR.
00:51
This is a serious driver's car.
00:53
The car is absolutely incredible.
01:00
(car engine revving)
01:03
But, and there's always a but,
01:06
I've long said that this chassis is so good,
01:10
Chevy ought to give this thing another 100 horsepower.
01:14
(car engine revving)
01:17
(dramatic music)
01:24
(car engine revving)
01:27
Ha, the Chevy gave it 200 more horsepower,
01:39
and they're calling it the ZL1.
01:42
Woo!
01:43
(laughing)
01:46
(car engine revving)
01:49
So, what does 200 more horsepower
02:05
and 200 more pound feet of torque look like on a drag strip?
02:09
Watch me dust this 1LE.
02:11
(dramatic music)
02:14
(car engine revving)
02:38
Oh yeah, leaving him for dead.
02:41
(laughing)
02:43
Not only is the ZL1 faster than the 1LE,
02:52
it's faster than the Shelby GT350R.
02:55
Hell, it's faster than the Hellcat.
02:57
Now, you can be forgiven for thinking it's a one-trick pony.
03:02
It's got a lot of power and torque,
03:03
goes faster in a straight line,
03:05
but that's simply not the case.
03:08
(car engine revving)
03:11
Shoving a monster motor where it doesn't belong
03:14
is the muscle car recipe.
03:16
That's easy.
03:17
That's been done a million times,
03:19
and frankly, that was the problem with the old ZL1.
03:23
But this is 2017.
03:26
The big Camaro is finally a complete package,
03:30
and here's why.
03:32
It's got the same tires, magnetic suspension,
03:35
and trick electronically locking limited slip differential
03:38
as the handling all-star 1LE.
03:41
It's also got wider fenders,
03:44
a carbon fiber hood with an air extractor,
03:47
a larger grill for better cooling,
03:50
bigger brakes, a wing out back,
03:52
and a shin-splintering front splitter.
03:56
How does all this go-fast tech make the big Camaro feel?
04:04
In a word, mighty.
04:06
(car engine revving)
04:10
But all that aggression does not come
04:17
at the expense of comfort.
04:18
So, like I said, while this car can beat anything up,
04:21
you as the driver are not getting beaten up.
04:24
The ride is pretty comfortable.
04:25
These Recaro seats are great.
04:27
The steering wheel's great.
04:28
And I think a large part of that
04:30
is due to the magnetic ride control dampers.
04:34
(car engine revving)
04:36
GM has developed this winging technology,
04:38
and the Camaro team has really perfected it
04:40
here in the ZL1.
04:41
It's just such a joy to drive this thing.
04:45
It just works so well.
04:47
And then also, when you do get on the power,
04:52
the ELSD, one of my favorite named parts
04:54
in all of Autodome,
04:55
the electronic limited slip differential,
04:57
really can put the power down.
05:02
And that's a common part shared with the CTS-V and the ZL6.
05:06
However, here it just works better.
05:09
Then we get to the transmission.
05:14
So, I've driven this car with a six-speed manual.
05:17
I'm also now driving it with a new 10-speed transmission,
05:19
co-developed with Ford Motor Company, up to a point.
05:23
And then there's a kind of a fork in the family tree.
05:25
And Camaro has developed this one specifically for the ZL1.
05:30
So, all the controls, the valving are different
05:32
than the common unit.
05:34
And while I prefer the manual for my own personal reasons,
05:37
chief among them being, it reminds me of the old CTS-V wagon
05:40
with a stick, this 10-speed is the quicker transmission.
05:45
More importantly, compared to, like, say, the CTS-V
05:47
and its eight-speed transmission, this one's better.
05:52
(engine revving)
05:54
The Bugatti Veyron famously had 10 intercoolers.
06:17
'Cause that giant engine makes so much heat,
06:20
it needs 10 heat exchangers to keep it cool.
06:23
The Camaro ZL1, 11.
06:25
(engine revving)
06:29
We know this is the same engine as the Z06, right?
06:33
It's the big, supercharged LT4.
06:36
And we've all heard how in the new Z06,
06:38
it's been having some overheating issues.
06:40
The Camaro team has ensured that the ZL1
06:43
is never gonna overheat.
06:45
It's got the main intercooler
06:46
with two auxiliary intercoolers flanking it.
06:49
On top of the supercharger, there's two more intercoolers.
06:51
And they've been redesigned and repositioned
06:53
compared to the LT4 in the Z06.
06:56
And then there's trans coolers, disc coolers,
06:58
that cooler's, this cooler's, everything.
07:01
We've been beating on this car for a week straight,
07:03
and it has showed no signs of overheating,
07:06
no signs of heat soaking, no nothing.
07:09
It just stays cool.
07:10
It also drifts really well.
07:16
The ZL1 sprints around our figure eight test
07:18
in 23.1 seconds.
07:20
That's two tenths of a second quicker
07:22
than a BMW M4 GTS, a Camaro SS1 LE,
07:26
and a Shelby GT350R.
07:29
In fact, the big Camaro is a tenth of a second quicker
07:32
around our course than an Acura NSX.
07:35
It takes a Porsche 911 Carrera S with all-wheel steering
07:38
to even tie the supercharged Camaro.
07:41
(engine revving)
07:46
(tires screeching)
07:48
So Chevy kept talking about,
07:49
when they were developing the ZL1,
07:51
they wanted it to be a triple threat.
07:54
They wanted it to be dominant on the drag strip,
07:56
and we've seen that.
07:57
Remember, 11.5 in the quarter mile,
07:59
that's the same as a Dodge Viper ACR.
08:01
They wanted it to be awesome on a back road.
08:04
Well, we're on a back road, it's awesome, let me tell ya.
08:07
(engine revving)
08:10
And lastly, they wanted the ZL1
08:12
to be the king of the racetrack.
08:14
Well, to prove that last point,
08:17
we're gonna have to get our buddy Randy Popes involved
08:20
and see what he has to say about it.
08:21
(engine revving)
08:24
Well, Randy, once again,
08:28
I find myself sitting next to you in a car,
08:30
racing around Big Willow Racetrack
08:31
at Willow Springs International Raceway.
08:34
This time, ZL1, what do you think?
08:37
- One of the things that they lectured us about a lot today
08:40
was this transmission.
08:42
Ba-boom, did you hear it?
08:43
It just downshifted on its own,
08:45
it felt the cornering G's
08:47
and went into its track mode on its own.
08:49
It doesn't have a sport mode, it's an automatic.
08:53
Everything's automatic.
08:54
(engine revving)
08:56
And you hear how close the gear ratios are?
09:06
Wah, wah, wah, wah, and it's like a 125cc motocrosser.
09:11
And I really enjoy that.
09:13
(engine revving)
09:16
- So you've driven 'em all, you've tracked 'em all.
09:23
How does the ZL1, where does it fit
09:25
into the pantheon of GM performance cars?
09:28
- Short story, it takes the tremendous power and torque
09:32
of the LT4 from the Z06 Corvette
09:35
and puts it into the wonderful handling alpha platform
09:40
of the Cadillac ATS, CTS, and Camaro.
09:43
- Okay.
09:44
- Great combination.
09:46
- Okay.
09:46
- Because that motor's a beast and it needs to be tamed
09:51
and this chassis can do it.
09:53
And the Camaro guys, they pulled it off,
09:56
they've done a great job.
09:57
(engine revving)
10:00
- I mean, I think that's what's so cool about GM,
10:02
they won't ever admit it publicly,
10:03
but like, you know, they allow internal competition now.
10:07
So you know, it used to be back in the day,
10:08
it's like you're making a Camaro,
10:10
you have to make it less powerful and worse than a Corvette.
10:13
Have to.
10:14
And now--
10:15
- Yeah, like it came in 9/11 deal.
10:17
- Yeah, yeah, so now--
10:18
- Unspun.
10:19
- Right.
10:19
Now, Camaro is free to make a car that,
10:23
I'm gonna say is a better driver's car than the Z06.
10:26
- I'm with you, Johnny.
10:27
- You know, and I bet you once we lap 'em,
10:29
it'll be, I don't know, I'm guessing here,
10:31
but probably right up there with the Grand Sport, you know?
10:34
- When I drove the car on track,
10:37
what I noticed was obviously different about these cars
10:40
is that in the Corvette,
10:41
I got white knuckles and a sweaty brow.
10:44
And in the Camaro, I got a smile on my face
10:46
and I'm steering with one hand.
10:48
- I mean, by the way, guys watching at home,
10:50
I was just watching Randy drift this car with one hand
10:53
while talking about sweating in a Corvette.
10:55
You know what I mean?
10:56
So like, obviously, that's just a great handling car.
10:59
So, all right.
11:01
- That's it.
11:02
- Yeah, oh yeah.
11:03
So here's what I propose we do.
11:04
Let's actually get you behind the wheel of this thing
11:07
and set a hot lap.
11:08
But instead of just doing the automatic,
11:10
let's do it head-to-head style
11:12
and we'll put the 10 speed up against the manual
11:14
and see which one's faster.
11:16
- Great, I love it.
11:17
- Cool. - I love it.
11:18
- Cool.
11:19
- See if all those gears are really worth it, right?
11:21
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:22
(car engine roaring)
11:26
(car engine roaring)
11:29
(car engine roaring)
11:32
(car engine roaring)
11:35
(car engine roaring)
11:38
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11:41
(car engine roaring)
11:44
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11:55
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12:11
(car engine roaring)
12:14
(car engine roaring)
12:19
(car engine roaring)
12:27
(car engine roaring)
12:38
(car engine roaring)
12:41
(car engine roaring)
12:50
- Here's a few cars the automatic ZL1
13:04
is quicker around big wheel events.
13:07
Mercedes AMG GTS,
13:09
Porsche Turbo S and the McLaren 570S.
13:13
Even faster than the manual ZL1
13:16
beating Chevy's own Corvette Grand Sport.
13:19
The world is standing on its head.
13:22
The ZL1 achieved what it set out to accomplish.
13:31
It's fast in a straight line,
13:32
it's excellent on a back road
13:34
and in the hands of a pro racing driver,
13:36
it's one of the fastest track cars in the world, period.
13:41
But what I like most about the ZL1
13:43
is that in the five days I had it,
13:45
I went through six sets of rear tires.
13:47
This thing is an absolute smoking brute.
13:51
The only question that remains is
13:53
how completely unhinged will Chevy make the Z28?
13:57
Randy kept screaming at all the Chevy guys,
14:03
"It needs a better name."
14:04
My suggestion would be Satan Pony, right?
14:07
Satan Pony.
14:08
But in the end it's GM's call.
14:10
Or maybe Beelzebubba or Lucifer's Lament.
14:15
(dramatic music)
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