00:00 Historically speaking, the Celtics as an organization have a reputation for downplaying injuries.
00:04 And then they turned out being worse, more severe, simply take longer to return.
00:09 And it's guy after guy after guy.
00:12 There are so many examples of it going over the last 20 years and as recently as the last couple of years.
00:18 So this is not something that we just look back to like the New Big Three era.
00:21 This has happened more recently with people like Rob Williams and others as well.
00:25 So does that enter the back of your mind at all to where you say,
00:28 "Okay, I mean, he should be okay, but maybe he's not?"
00:32 Of course, and the same thing with Malcolm Brogdon.
00:34 I mean, we've heard nothing about his elbow injury other than he didn't get surgery, obviously.
00:41 So you hope that he's coming into camp healthy too and he's completely healed.
00:46 We really haven't heard much about that.
00:48 So, you know, I'm sure the Celtics want to be as healthy as they can be,
00:54 but obviously they're not going to, "Oh, you're right, you're right."
00:57 They're going to downplay an injury.
00:59 But I don't think this is a situation where they're downplaying.
01:04 I think it's probably a situation where he just signed and it probably wasn't worth it for him to play for now.
01:12 You know, maybe does he try to play in the qualifying?
01:15 Does he try to help Latvia get into the Olympics?
01:18 And I don't know when those qualifying tournaments are and if it's during the NBA season, absolutely not.
01:23 So that might be his last shot playing with his home country and trying to get them into the Olympic Games.
01:30 But I think the Celtics are just trying to be as safe as they can be.
01:36 But we never know what's going on.
01:39 Like, you can't assume anything, Adam, you're right.
01:43 I mean, you just, as we know, like, I'd be very highly surprised if everybody in camp
01:51 on October 2nd is completely 100% healthy.
01:55 There's going to be some type of nagging injury.
01:58 We'll see how Malcolm, Malcolm's the one I'm concerned about too.
02:02 We've heard nothing and he's angry with the team.
02:05 So I don't think communication between the two sides have been fruitful.
02:10 So he could just say, "Listen, man, I'm not getting no surgery.
02:14 I'm just going to let this heal and y'all just going to have to wait for me to let it heal."
02:18 You know, it could be somewhat of a protest for being on the trade block or something.
02:21 I don't know, but you would think that that wouldn't be the case.
02:24 But we'll see October 2nd, you know, when they, and then October 3rd, when that first practice is,
02:30 like, actually who's on the floor.
02:33 - Let's go right there though, because I think that probably, you know,
02:37 raised an eyebrow for people out there listening.
02:40 If Malcolm Brock didn't, I would get it.
02:42 You know, I'm not blaming him.
02:43 But if Brock isn't upset with the team...
02:45 - Oh, yeah, he is.
02:46 He's angry.
02:47 - How concerning is that?
02:48 Well, I mean, that's, you know...
02:50 - No, he was not happy.
02:52 I mean, now was that, you know, he was not happy in July.
02:56 Is he the same level of unhappiness in September?
03:01 We don't know.
03:02 You know, he hasn't talked all summer, and people have tried to reach him, or he hasn't
03:06 spoken at all all summer.
03:07 So we don't know.
03:08 It's just like Marcus Smart.
03:10 Is Marcus Smart as hurt by the trade to Memphis now as he was in July?
03:16 No.
03:17 He's kind of into being a Memphis Grizzly.
03:20 He sees the future.
03:21 He's excited.
03:23 So does time let those things kind of dissipate?
03:26 But yeah, like Malcolm Brockman was not happy about the deal.
03:30 He heard being potentially dealt.
03:32 There was not...
03:33 There's no...
03:34 He was pissed.
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03:55 - I want to get into another nagging injury that nobody's really talked about, and only
03:58 because you mentioned, you know, a few of them, I was just kind of...
04:03 Kind of re-entered my brain, because we haven't thought about this for a while, because he
04:07 hasn't played basketball for a while.
04:08 But Jason Tatum's had a wrist injury, what feels like two post-seasons in a row here.
04:12 And we kept hearing, "He's putting off surgery.
04:15 He's putting off surgery.
04:16 He's going to let it heal naturally."
04:17 Do we have any clarification or clarity on how Jason's doing with an injury that's been
04:21 nagging him for the past two seasons?
04:22 - I thought he...
04:23 I think if he needed surgery, he would have had surgery this off-season.
04:26 The fact that he's working out with, like, everybody, right?
04:31 And you see him that...
04:34 He's got to be 100%.
04:35 I just don't understand why you would enter a season with a partially damaged wrist if
04:39 it hasn't healed and that you need surgery.
04:41 I mean, as we remember a couple years ago, Jalen had his wrist surgery.
04:46 You know, the wrist is a very sensitive part.
04:48 You land on it.
04:49 I mean, obviously, every time you hit the floor and you try to brace yourself, there's
04:54 your wrist.
04:55 You know, so that's a delicate injury, right?
04:59 So if I'm Jason Tatum, if I need to, I need to have this procedure.
05:05 So obviously, he hasn't, unless he is just absolutely against having surgery.
05:12 So as a Celtics fan, you hope that that's the case, that he is just...
05:18 He is healed naturally and he's ready to go.
05:21 I said I talked to him at the Hall of Fame about a month ago.
05:25 He seemed excited about the season.
05:27 You know, there was no wrap on his wrist or anything when I saw him.
05:32 So I think he's ready to go.
05:35 And I'm sure there's something he'll be asked at training camp about how's his health.
05:40 He'll say he's fine.
05:43 The fact is that it could be something that could cause some discomfort.
05:48 But the fact that he hasn't had surgery, there's been nothing procedurally done to it, leads
05:54 me to believe that it's not that serious of an injury.
05:56 He's played through two postseasons with it now.
05:58 So maybe this is just something that he deals with.
06:02 And you know, I would assume, considering that he's worked out, he's doing all these,
06:09 you know, deadlifting 900 pounds and all this stuff that you guys see, that the wrist isn't
06:16 a factor in him, you know, literally trying to be Charles Atlas.
06:22 I mean, it's just like...
06:23 He's never been like 450, like it's nothing.
06:25 He's just up there.
06:26 Yeah, he's a strong dude.
06:27 I mean, why are you strong?
06:30 I was impressed with Jason's strength.
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06:57 I watched that video.
06:58 I'm like, he can add more weight to that.
06:59 He's doing that pretty easy.
07:00 Yeah, yeah.
07:01 I mean, you know, and I think the fact that and working out with Pierce and, uh, thinking
07:05 of working out with Jalen, I think he was working out with Kevin Durant.
07:09 So, I mean, you know, if he's hooping like that and doing those things, I think he's
07:13 ready to go.
07:14 I mean, obviously, you know, he's got a lot of experience.
07:17 He's got a lot of experience.
07:18 He's got a lot of experience.
07:19 He's got a lot of experience.
07:20 He's got a lot of experience.
07:21 He's got a lot of experience.
07:22 He's got a lot of experience.
07:23 He's got a lot of experience.
07:24 He's got a lot of experience.
07:25 He's got a lot of experience.
07:26 I mean, obviously, as we've talked about before, this is a humongous, humongous season
07:31 for the franchise and a humongous season for Jason.
07:34 I mean, obviously he's going to get paid next year, so it's not going to affect his finances.
07:40 He's going to be, he's going to be maxed, right?
07:42 It's not, it's not any situation where he's not going to be maxed, but for his personal
07:46 reputation in terms of being a leader, a star, uh, the man, uh, MVP candidate, this is a,
07:54 a tremendously important season.
07:56 So I, I, I'm sorry, I gotta go back.
07:59 Cause I'm, I'm just like between Tatum's wrist and Brogdon's arm and Borzingas' foot and
08:06 Malcolm's pissed.
08:07 Like this is a real, this is a real, like our pet's heads are falling off addition to
08:13 Celtics feet right here, unintentionally.
08:15 That was not the goal, but now I'm, now I'm sort of stuck on Brogdon.
08:19 Like you, you were talking about his, his discontent with the organization, not knowing
08:22 what it is right now versus what it was, obviously, maybe he's sort of made terms with the fact
08:26 that it's a business and he's over it and he's going to get himself ready for the season.
08:30 But I don't know, is there, I know we're sitting here in mid September.
08:33 Is there any chance that he's not on this team?
08:37 I would think not.
08:38 I think he's on the team, man.
08:40 I don't know if they're, I don't think they're trying to deal him again.
08:43 Um, I just think it was, it was something where it was either him or Marcus and you
08:49 know, it was Marcus.
08:51 So they need him.
08:52 That's the thing.
08:53 It's not like, Oh, you'd have to be on for a guard.
08:55 Yeah.
08:56 Yeah.
08:57 They don't, it's not like they don't need Malcolm Brogdon.
08:58 They do.
08:59 So there's going to have to be conversations and I'm sure there have been over the summer
09:03 to just say, Hey man, we're, you know, this is the business.
09:06 I mean, Malcolm's been traded before.
09:08 He was traded from Milwaukee to Indiana.
09:10 He's traded from Indiana to Boston.
09:12 So this is not something he's not used to.
09:14 I think he's a total pro.
09:15 He's 30 years old, but I do think the, the, the, you know, I don't know whether he was
09:20 not informed about the deal, whether, uh, or he got learned how he learned, like Marcus
09:26 revealed that he was told a week before that he wasn't going to be moved and he was moved
09:31 and he found out, you know, his fiance found out and he was asleep when it happened.
09:36 It could be in how it was relayed.
09:40 You know, it, it, it's an interesting dynamic there, but I think that, you know, Malcolm's
09:46 a grown man, I think he understands what that doesn't mean he's not upset about it.
09:50 Um, so I was told, yeah, he was not happy with how things went down now.
09:55 Does that increase his level of mistrust in the Celtics organization?
10:00 But I do think you eventually get over it.
10:02 I mean, this is the, this is, this is the new NBA.
10:04 There's trade requests, guys playing for teams they never thought they'd be playing for trade
10:11 requests.
10:12 Don't go through, you know, things happen.
10:14 This is, this is the new NBA where like, like these things just don't happen.
10:18 These things happen all the time.
10:21 And there's, you know, Jaylen was mad about being dangled for Durant.
10:24 Like guys got to get over the feelings.
10:26 This is the way it is.
10:27 And it's not like they're not tough or I'm challenging their, their, their ability to
10:32 deal with adversity.
10:34 But this is the way it is.
10:36 Like you're playing for 20, he's making $21 million, $22 million a year.
10:40 He's playing for a championship caliber team.
10:43 So I think he'll eventually understand if he doesn't already that, Hey, this is a big
10:47 deal.
10:48 I got to bounce.
10:49 I got to, I got to make this happen.
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