00:00 You know, you obviously have risen to the highest family member of the Colts and well-deserved,
00:10 but you started as an unpaid intern in the early 80s, shades of Roger Goodell.
00:17 When you took that, with the NFL, when you took that kind of position with the Colts,
00:22 did you ever think, you know, years and years and years later, you'd be where you are now?
00:28 You know what, it was my dream, but I never really imagined I would still be doing today
00:38 what I dreamed about when I was, you know, 11, 12 years old.
00:43 It's a fact, that's what I wanted to do since I was 11.
00:45 I visited Dallas Cowboys training camp in California when I was 11 years old, and I
00:50 saw the people that weren't players, you know, the ball boys and equipment guys and the trainers
00:57 and I just, man, I just fell in love with pro football and that was my goal.
01:03 So I've been very fortunate.
01:04 Well, yeah, but the fortune is also self-made and it is a poster child for tenacity and
01:12 consistency.
01:13 You, VA, you major in business, you start a career in sports.
01:21 When I went to Harvard Law, there was no such thing as sports law, so you just kind of made
01:24 it up.
01:25 It sounds like you're the same way at Virginia.
01:27 According to the bio, there was basically no degree.
01:30 So you said, all right, I'm going to start it.
01:32 I'm going to do it.
01:34 Tell that story.
01:35 Well, yeah, I went to my advisor and asked him if it would be possible to design my own
01:40 major.
01:41 And he's a great guy and he's now a renowned sports psychologist named Bob Rotella.
01:51 And he was just such a wonderful advisor and he allowed me to do this.
01:55 And so I put together just kind of a hodgepodge of courses and graduated.
02:02 My degree was in sports business.
02:07 And the only other school that offered that type of a degree back then, I believe, was
02:12 Ohio University.
02:14 And now, you know, you have almost every college and university in the country offering some
02:20 variation of sports marketing or business or administrative degree.
02:27 So the world has really changed in that world.
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