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Brian Robb and Tim McKone of 98.5 Sports Hub breaks down the latest surround Kristaps Porzingis' injury and take a first look at the Celtics schedule for next season.

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00:05 - All right, new edition of the Winning Plays podcast,
00:08 back yet again.
00:09 My name is Brian Robb,
00:10 joined by the one and only Tim O'Connor of 98.5,
00:13 the Sports Sub.
00:15 And I guess the lead star here, Tim, out of the gate.
00:18 It's actually been a somewhat busy August
00:19 for the assaults here.
00:21 And we talked about this last week
00:23 on your show on the Sports Sub,
00:25 but Porzingis, officially out of the World Cup,
00:29 plantar fasciitis,
00:31 Celtics announced he's gonna be good for training camp.
00:34 I guess, do you look at this as a good news situation
00:38 or a bad news situation, given the opposite hand?
00:40 'Cause I feel like you could easily take two theories
00:43 with this injury at this point.
00:45 - I know, the good news is that you're not gonna see him
00:48 play any international basketball, right?
00:49 So after the Golanari fiasco last year,
00:52 that's probably a positive,
00:53 but I guess this is what's kind of set in for me
00:57 over the last week, B-Rob.
00:58 This is what life is gonna be like as a Celtics fan
01:00 for the next couple of years.
01:02 It's just gonna be holding your breath constantly
01:04 and going, "Please, can you just stay healthy for us?"
01:08 And that's kind of what you signed up for
01:09 when you traded for a guy like Porzingis,
01:11 who certainly is talented, no question about it,
01:13 but the injury concerns for a 7'3" guy are real.
01:16 And certainly when you're talking about a foot
01:19 for a 7'3" guy, it's not ideal to start out.
01:22 So the fact that we've already dove into life
01:25 with Porzingis before training camp even kicked off
01:28 in season one, it's a little unnerving,
01:30 no question about it.
01:32 - Like the over-under for games played together
01:35 for Porzingis, Warford, and Rob Williams is,
01:38 I think that started the season at like 25
01:40 and it's already dropping as far as times three and four.
01:43 So I think you're right.
01:45 I mean, like this is, that's the sobering reality
01:47 of like, this is what life is gonna be like.
01:49 And I think the Celtics knew that,
01:51 like when they're betting on the upside
01:54 versus like knowing that this is gonna be the reality
01:56 of what has to be managed.
01:58 Internally, I feel like they're not too,
02:02 they don't seem to be worried or at least positive,
02:04 which is not a surprise 'cause that's what they do.
02:06 But it's like, I guess like the last half full take
02:08 is like, okay, Porzingis, you know, these guys,
02:12 especially these international European guys,
02:14 they love to play in these tournaments.
02:16 They hate to not like suit up for their countries,
02:18 understandably so.
02:20 And this was an out for them.
02:22 Like this is a way of being like, okay,
02:24 this isn't too serious, but Kristaps,
02:26 you could make this worse.
02:27 We just gave you this extension.
02:29 Why don't you like kind of take it easy for us here
02:32 and that way, you know, better odds you're healthy
02:35 in May and June.
02:36 And this was him kind of buying into that.
02:39 So I guess that's the glass half full take.
02:41 The glass half empty take is,
02:43 you're already dealing with this in the summer.
02:45 Is this really gonna go away during the season?
02:47 Because like, to your point, big guys, foot injuries,
02:50 I know you can rest right now,
02:51 but like it's a condition that I feel like
02:56 doesn't go away easily.
02:57 - No, it doesn't.
02:59 And look, I've gone through it before,
03:01 but when you're talking about someone,
03:03 like Porzingis isn't just like tall,
03:04 he's freakishly tall for like NBA standards.
03:07 He's like one of the top 25.
03:08 You're talking seven, three and above,
03:10 you're talking about one of the tallest guys
03:11 in the history of the league.
03:12 And if you go down the history of those guys,
03:15 you're like that body type,
03:17 and not necessarily one that you think is gonna be
03:20 the next AC Green in the NBA.
03:22 So like, yeah, we're gonna be dealing with like
03:25 this type of stuff moving forward.
03:26 And it's just something that you're gonna have to monitor.
03:28 I do think, you know, one of the other positives
03:30 when we talk about this timeline too,
03:31 is this, we're no longer talking about
03:33 the Danny Ainge Celtics,
03:34 where I'm still waiting for Garnett to come back in '09.
03:36 I'm still waiting for Shaq to come back
03:38 for the Celtics and stuff like that.
03:39 So I do kind of believe in the timeline,
03:42 but you're right, I do think this is something
03:43 we're gonna have to monitor long-term,
03:45 because, you know, again, when you're talking about
03:47 the injury concerns for a guy of his size,
03:50 and that body type, and his history,
03:52 I think it's something that you're gonna be,
03:53 again, if you're a Celtics fan,
03:54 holding your breath throughout
03:56 the entirety of this contract, I really do.
03:58 - And to me, I mean, looking ahead to this season now,
04:01 with him, say he comes back, maybe they,
04:04 he might start the training camp,
04:05 but he's gonna go over the season.
04:07 How do you manage him during the season?
04:10 Like, are you of the mind of being like,
04:12 listen, back-to-backs are,
04:13 I know you're 28, back-to-backs, they're out.
04:15 Like, we're just not doing that.
04:17 Do you have, or do you think of it more of like,
04:20 oh, we'll just give him like a couple weeks off
04:22 in the middle of the season, just to like,
04:24 you know, because why not?
04:25 Because we can.
04:26 Like, how would you kind of play that out?
04:28 Or would you rather just say like,
04:30 all right, you know your body here,
04:32 like, well, obviously bench you, we need you to be benched,
04:34 but we're not gonna, you know,
04:36 be as proactive as we might be with, you know,
04:38 Horford or Rob Williams, as far as the injuries go.
04:41 - Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't mind
04:42 like a Horford-like type schedule.
04:43 So like, maybe you can manage it a little bit,
04:45 and there are certain back-to-backs,
04:47 or certain stretches where you want him in there.
04:49 But, you know, if you decide that, you know,
04:51 on a road trip here,
04:52 he's not gonna play in these back-to-backs,
04:54 I have no issue with that at all.
04:55 I do think managing these guys
04:58 and getting to the finish line and getting them healthy.
05:00 And look, you did a great job of that last year
05:02 with Horford and Brogdon,
05:03 and it instantly all fell apart.
05:04 Brogdon goes, "Definitely injury in the postseason."
05:07 And, you know, Al Horford kind of is a shell of himself
05:10 by the end of that Philly series as well.
05:13 But I do think managing those guys
05:15 and doing your best to make sure that they're healthy,
05:17 like, I don't think you can just roll the dice
05:19 and say, like, "Listen to your body
05:20 and we'll figure it out from here."
05:22 So for a guy that doesn't like load management like me,
05:24 I do think a big part of this Celtics season
05:27 is gonna be not only just managing Porzingis,
05:29 but like you said, man, you are relying
05:31 on like three unreliable guys in the front court.
05:34 And I throw Horford in there simply because of his age,
05:36 not the injury concerns.
05:37 But Rob Williams, an aging Horford, and Porzingis.
05:42 All right, like, here we go.
05:43 Like a big part, like Mazzullo,
05:45 there's a lot on his plate, certainly,
05:46 this year, and I do think managing that front court
05:49 is a big part of that.
05:50 - Really is, and like, so Porzingis,
05:52 he played 32.6 minutes a game last year.
05:57 That was close to his career high.
05:58 His lowest was 29 with the Mavs and the Wizards in 21-22.
06:03 I guess I would be shocked if he cracks 30 minutes per game.
06:09 Like, probably, maybe even consider doing 28-29.
06:14 And I guess that's gonna be interesting to see,
06:16 you know, who steps up and like,
06:18 is Brissette gonna be the guy
06:20 who kind of fills in in those spots?
06:21 Is Jordan Walsh gonna surprise,
06:23 maybe steal a few minutes at like power forward?
06:26 Blake Griffin, obviously, we're waiting to hear on him.
06:28 But it's clear now, like, they need,
06:31 one of the last two signs would clearly be another big here
06:34 to the roster, and they're probably just waiting on Blake,
06:36 and then maybe jumping on another guy or two.
06:38 And I honestly wouldn't be like,
06:41 getting another two-way guy that's a big two.
06:44 I think that's probably just a good idea,
06:46 just so you have that like, kind of reinforcement
06:49 and maybe a different, you know,
06:50 kind of player than a Luke Cornett of the world.
06:53 - I agree with that.
06:53 I agree with that.
06:54 I think when you kind of look at the roster moving forward,
06:56 yeah, those are gonna be two spots
06:57 that I think make a lot of sense for the Celtics.
07:00 And again, super talented, like you said,
07:03 and this is kind of the deal
07:04 when you acquired Porzingis, right?
07:05 Huge swing, home run swing.
07:08 But man, there's a huge upside and a huge downside
07:12 for bringing in a player like this.
07:15 Looking back on it now, clearly the extension for him
07:19 was like part of the deal getting done,
07:21 of being like, he probably doesn't opt in
07:24 unless he's guaranteed those two more years.
07:26 So that was like a, you know,
07:27 behind the scenes type negotiations
07:29 before that deal gets done.
07:30 With the value of that two years, 60 million,
07:34 it doesn't look outrageous when you look at like,
07:36 where contracts are going right now,
07:37 but like, it just kind of holds up in your mind now,
07:42 just how big of a swing this is
07:44 in terms of like, they didn't have,
07:47 they don't have many chess moves left here with this core.
07:51 Malcolm Brogdon and those future first round picks
07:55 probably being the only big piece left now,
07:57 but looking at it right now, like, do you like,
08:01 you do, I know you've never been a Porzingis guy.
08:03 You were obviously on board with the moves part.
08:06 Would you, like, how does your stomach feel
08:08 about all this right now
08:09 in terms of getting him in that extension
08:11 with this already playing out as it is,
08:13 but you'd be like, you go back a month
08:15 knowing they still have a couple of first round picks
08:17 in the bag still to use.
08:19 Do you still feel good about like,
08:20 where they're standing is right now?
08:22 - I feel terrible about it.
08:24 Yeah, no, I just think, no,
08:25 'cause I think this is like,
08:26 what we've had over the last week
08:27 is what life is gonna be like.
08:28 And so I do think like the thing that I think
08:32 the Celtics kind of looked at too,
08:33 you go back and you look at the package
08:35 that you got for Marcus Smart,
08:37 two first rounders and a guy that averages 23 and eight,
08:40 like you're not getting anything bigger than that.
08:43 And so if you're trying to win a championship,
08:44 I understand like the thought process there is,
08:47 so let's put together the best possible team we can
08:50 with the most upside and hope that he stays healthy.
08:52 But you're also banking on Porzingis
08:54 being Porzingis of last year
08:56 and not necessarily the Porzingis that we saw in Dallas.
09:00 And so that's, or going down with an injury as well.
09:03 So we'll see kind of what happens.
09:06 I'm with you, like, and you nailed it.
09:08 I was ready to move off of Marcus Smart,
09:11 but can my stomach take necessarily life with Porzingis?
09:14 I guess we're gonna find out.
09:15 I guess we're gonna find out.
09:16 Not a good start though.
09:17 Not a good start.
09:18 - No, but I mean, it'll be funny.
09:21 Like in hindsight, I'll be like, oh man, it's so great.
09:23 Like, we'll look at this in a year and be like, man,
09:25 that was so great that he didn't play in the World Cup.
09:27 Like that would have like huge move or being like,
09:28 oh, that foreshadowed just like a disaster,
09:32 like few months here.
09:34 Wait once, if Rob Williams comes down
09:36 with something in camp
09:37 and then Porzingis still isn't ready yet.
09:38 And then you're just looking at like, okay,
09:40 Luke Cornett starting center, all right.
09:43 But it is, it's just kind of wow just to see like it,
09:47 and again, they can address this.
09:50 They still have chips to move.
09:52 Like you wonder now in terms of like,
09:54 I think an in-season trade
09:57 was never gonna be a surprise given the picks
10:01 that they've stockpiled over the last few months,
10:04 but the onus on it,
10:05 like how much they need it to happen
10:08 is gonna be fascinating to see.
10:11 Based again on how this injury looks,
10:13 how these other guys look coming out of camp
10:15 and how the things kind of roll together here.
10:18 It's, I don't know, it's between what he was last year
10:23 in Washington versus the fact that Dallas
10:25 literally just gave him away a couple of years ago.
10:29 It's like, I know he was coming off an injury then,
10:32 but the swing, like the extremes there
10:34 are just kind of wild to think about.
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11:15 - No, no, no question.
11:20 And look, like the fit in Dallas wasn't great for him,
11:23 so I understand all that, no doubt.
11:25 But yeah, I mean, the upside and the downside,
11:28 it's Brad Stevens, I would give Brad Stevens credit.
11:32 He is gone for it, no question, no question about it.
11:35 And I'm with you too.
11:36 I do think the deadline this year is going to be
11:39 a big, big spot for the Boston Celtics as well.
11:42 No question about that.
11:44 - All right, so Zebra Road Cup action,
11:48 no Porzingis, O'Shea Bursette,
11:50 also out of action for Team Canada for knee injury.
11:52 So no Celtics to watch.
11:54 But we did get the schedule to come out on Thursday, McCone.
11:57 We didn't even get 82 games
12:00 because they don't announce a couple of games
12:02 because of the end season tournament now.
12:05 Opening up against the Knicks at MSG on October 25th,
12:10 some big games against the Lakers on Christmas day,
12:15 some really long, some kind of absurd road trips.
12:18 What, if anything, kind of stuck out to you
12:21 about this schedule in terms of games you're circling
12:23 or just, you know, stretches that you think
12:25 are going to be pivotal to this season here?
12:27 - Yeah, well, you mentioned that West Coast swing there
12:29 where I think you close it out
12:31 against the Lakers on Christmas day,
12:32 but that's kind of a murderer's row out West in December
12:35 that you're going up against.
12:36 So I think that's going to be certainly a fun time
12:39 for Celtics fans to kind of stay up late
12:41 and watch those games
12:41 'cause there are some big matchups out there for sure.
12:46 You dive right into this thing,
12:47 like that, the start of your schedule is fun,
12:50 no question about it.
12:51 And then you've also got the Marcus Smart,
12:53 I think, what is it, November 17th,
12:55 I want to say is the first game against Marcus Smart.
12:58 So I'll be interested to see that one.
13:00 But I think the headliner for the entire NBA
13:03 and for the entire league is the in-season tournament.
13:05 And I've gone full circle on this, B-Rob.
13:08 I thought it was the corniest thing of all time
13:10 when they first announced this thing.
13:12 And now I like it, I like it, I'm into it.
13:15 It like, look, unless you are a huge NBA fan,
13:19 the regular season can be a slog, no question about it.
13:22 And I think this is an opportunity here
13:26 for the league as a whole
13:29 to kind of drum up some interest in the regular season.
13:32 And if it doesn't work, whatever, no harm.
13:35 And if it does, I think you've just added some intrigue
13:38 to your actual schedule.
13:39 And the way that they've kind of set this up,
13:41 I think is gonna be fun.
13:42 I think it's gonna be cool to see,
13:45 certainly the group stage.
13:46 And then if you advance and then you're in the knockout round
13:49 and we kind of go NCAA tournament from there on out,
13:52 I think that for NBA fans, I think it'll be fun.
13:55 And I kind of go back to like college,
13:57 like look, the Maui,
14:00 some of these other in-season tournaments,
14:03 it's cool if your team wins them.
14:05 And it doesn't feel necessarily hokey in college for sure.
14:09 And it's not like you're walking around going,
14:10 we just won the PK 85, our season is made here.
14:14 But it is cool to go up against some of these big time teams
14:18 with a little something on the line.
14:19 So I think it's gonna work for NBA.
14:21 I'm excited to see kind of how it plays out.
14:24 - Yeah, so the Celtics,
14:27 there's four games and how it works essentially,
14:29 and I like how the NBA kind of set this up,
14:32 is they're select nights on Tuesdays and Fridays
14:35 in November that are just tournament game nights.
14:38 So you know everyone that's playing that night,
14:39 like they're in group play.
14:42 And then there's a week set out in December
14:45 where it's the knockout round from top eight advance
14:48 and then quarterfinals, semifinals and finals
14:51 with the last two taking place in Vegas.
14:54 And then other teams are gonna play games
14:56 on off nights there when (indistinct)
14:58 So it's gonna get a little complicated,
15:00 like that part of it in terms of like figuring out schedule.
15:03 But I don't know, it's like, it's November, dog days,
15:05 NFL is king in the fall.
15:08 And so I think the NBA realizes that and be like,
15:10 okay, how can we like maybe try to spice it up a little bit
15:14 so we can get some eyeballs on off nights for the NFL here,
15:18 which is like that Tuesday and Friday.
15:20 I think there's no coincidence that they picked
15:21 non NFL game nights,
15:23 which are becoming fewer and far between.
15:26 I think we'll be eating seven games a week in the NFL
15:28 by the time they expand to 18 games here
15:31 probably in a couple of years.
15:32 But yeah, it's like, why not?
15:35 And spice up a little bit,
15:36 I think the cash involved 500K to the winners
15:40 for every player on the team,
15:40 like it's not gonna be anything to Tatum and Brown,
15:43 but like you talk to Sam Hauser or Payne Pritchard,
15:46 like that's like 15% of their salary for the season.
15:50 So it's like, I think there's enough juice there
15:53 where you'll get some better basketball
15:56 than you would on a random Tuesday night otherwise.
15:58 - Yeah, and I just think like you said too,
16:00 I think November regular season back,
16:02 like the excitement of the start of the season
16:05 is kind of over at that point.
16:06 And if you can get some excitement here
16:09 and make extend sort of the importance
16:13 of the regular season a little bit for the NBA,
16:15 I think it's a good idea by them.
16:16 And I was leading the charge saying
16:19 this is the corniest thing of all time
16:20 when I first heard it announced
16:21 and I've completely switched teams here.
16:24 And I think it's a nice idea by the league.
16:28 And I think it's proactive in terms of trying to again,
16:31 make the product a little better
16:33 and a little more exciting.
16:34 And I don't think that there's a downside to that
16:36 for the league, I really don't, I don't.
16:39 - So well, it's all be three QBI in November,
16:41 other parts of the Celtics schedule here,
16:44 I'm fascinated by this incredible road trip
16:48 in March, McCone, where they,
16:50 it starts in Detroit, Chicago,
16:52 and then they're in Atlanta for five days.
16:55 They have a back-to-back against Atlanta,
16:57 but it's on a Monday and a Thursday.
16:59 So they literally are gonna be hanging out.
17:02 And the best part of that is the Hawks play another,
17:06 I think they play a Blazers in between those two games
17:08 at home.
17:09 So it's not even a back-to-back for them against the Celtics.
17:11 So the Celtics are gonna be able to,
17:13 probably see the entire town.
17:15 I don't know what type of tours you can do in Atlanta.
17:18 Maybe they'll go on a strip club tour,
17:19 something like that during that time down there,
17:21 but it's just a wild schedule quirk in that stretch.
17:25 And then wrap up in New Orleans and Charlottesville.
17:27 That's a six game trip.
17:28 They have another five game trip earlier in March.
17:32 So I honestly, March is like a complete bear
17:34 as far as the only, I think it's like five home games,
17:37 11 road games before closing things up
17:40 with six or seven of home in April.
17:42 So you wonder as far as the standings go,
17:45 as far as like resting guys go,
17:47 this is clearly another year where they'll probably
17:50 wanna get a lot of work done early,
17:52 so that you're not trying to play catch up
17:55 to get to a top two or three seed
17:58 by the time those road trips roll around.
18:00 - I guess my intrigue with the schedule too,
18:04 is kind of there are still some moving parts here
18:07 in terms of other teams.
18:09 And so like how much juice some of these matchups
18:11 actually have, I think is gonna be interesting as well.
18:13 Like if Lillard does wind up in Miami,
18:15 let's say, and all of a sudden that team
18:17 looks a little bit different or in, who the hell knows?
18:20 Like, look, we spent the first 20 minutes
18:22 bitching and moaning about like,
18:23 oh man, this poor Zinga stuff,
18:25 it's so tough to be a Celtics fan.
18:26 At least you're not a 76ers fan right now,
18:28 'cause your whole organization could be up in flames
18:31 here the next couple of weeks.
18:33 So, we'll see what those matchups
18:35 against the 76ers look like.
18:36 I mean, if both of those guys are potentially out the door,
18:39 even if it's just MD, that looks a lot different
18:42 on your schedule than what it would
18:44 if both of those guys were playing for Philadelphia.
18:47 So again, we'll kind of see what takes place there,
18:50 but I do still think there are some moving parts
18:53 in terms of some of these matchups to come, no question.
18:56 - That's a good point.
18:57 How do you think this hard situation plays out
18:59 for the record?
19:00 - I'll be honest with you.
19:02 I'm fascinated by the whole thing,
19:05 because if what some of the reports are
19:09 that say that maybe there was a max deal,
19:11 wink, wink, nod, nod behind the scenes
19:14 that was given to Harden last off season by Darryl Murray,
19:17 and then they try to back out of it.
19:19 I think you're in a situation where,
19:20 and look, this is,
19:21 I think there are two different situations
19:24 when you talk about the Blazers, B-Rob, and the 76ers.
19:28 Like, if you're the Blazers,
19:30 and you want to move off of your franchise piece
19:33 and Damian Lillard,
19:34 I don't think you should do him any favors,
19:36 because I don't think there's any benefit
19:37 for the organization to do that.
19:38 Free agents aren't gonna suddenly be picking the Blazers,
19:41 because you handled the Damian Lillard situation better.
19:45 But if you are the 76ers,
19:47 and you essentially did a bait and switch
19:50 with James Harden in that contract,
19:53 and you kind of screwed him and his agent over,
19:56 I think it's gonna be really hard to do business
19:58 moving forward if you're that team,
20:00 and you don't kind of follow through with that.
20:01 So I would imagine that Harden would be out the door.
20:04 And I don't know, truly,
20:06 and I'm a big Darryl Murray fan.
20:07 I thought he did an unbelievable job in Houston,
20:10 and a lot of the stuff that he kind of preaches,
20:11 I agree with in terms of roster building.
20:14 But I don't know how you could move forward
20:15 with that guy either,
20:16 because I don't know what relationships you would have
20:18 with agents or players across the rest of the league
20:21 in terms of just trust and belief.
20:25 And again, just kind of good working relationships
20:29 if you actually pull the move off like that.
20:31 Like, that's a one-time type of move,
20:33 and I don't think there's a lot of pivot points
20:34 off of that for him.
20:35 - Yeah, and then you have the pressure,
20:39 and like you said, with Portland,
20:40 you have the pressure of Embiid playing there too,
20:42 being like, you can't,
20:43 like the Blazers, they can be patient here.
20:45 Even if Miami is the ultimate destination,
20:48 there's no harm in waiting it out,
20:49 making them squeeze as much as you can out of them.
20:52 Maybe something happens to another team
20:53 where you get another shooter involved.
20:57 But with Philly, the urgency is now.
20:59 There's not a lot of wiggle room there.
21:02 Embiid's under contract, I think,
21:04 maybe two or three more years.
21:05 But he's, again, still hasn't gotten
21:08 to the fricking conference finals here.
21:10 So you look at how this goes with Harden.
21:14 Like you said, how it could influence other guys
21:16 wanting to go there if they think,
21:18 even if it wasn't a major,
21:19 if it appears to be one,
21:21 like some certain guys,
21:22 like you saw Kyrie sniping at,
21:26 well, it's like these guys carry weight
21:28 with some players around the league,
21:29 and so that's the type of stuff you wonder,
21:31 like if they're just trying to set up
21:32 for cap room for next year,
21:33 like it's one thing to have cap room now,
21:36 it's another thing to actually be able
21:37 to do something with it.
21:39 - I just look at, by the way,
21:40 like the two organizations and the roster building
21:45 and the way that you kind of went about
21:46 these rebuilds in Philadelphia and Boston.
21:49 And man, for everything and the process
21:51 and all those high picks,
21:52 like I always talk about this,
21:55 but like, yes, the Brooklyn trade was a home run,
21:58 worked out exactly, probably better
22:00 than you even could have imagined.
22:02 But to still walk away with two of those players,
22:04 I mean, when you look at what Philadelphia
22:05 ultimately walked away with,
22:07 with all those picks and all those high picks
22:09 that they had, B-Rob, it's unbelievable
22:12 what the Celtics were able to pull off
22:13 in terms of their roster building
22:15 and their drafting versus what Philadelphia did
22:18 with the process and the years of just tanking
22:21 and picking high in the draft and all that stuff.
22:22 It's just, it's wild to me, absolutely wild.
22:25 - The oral history of those 10 years
22:27 is gonna be something whenever someone wants to take it
22:29 from the Drew Holiday trade.
22:32 - Yeah, Drew Holiday, but like Fultz, Okafor,
22:36 I mean, New Orleans, Noel,
22:37 you could kind of throw in there,
22:37 but Ben Simmons, like all these guys,
22:40 they took high in the draft.
22:41 And then, you know, that clip kind of went viral this week
22:43 too of Danny Ainge talking about the trades
22:45 that you don't make as well, but like, man,
22:47 if like you were able to pull off the Justice Winslow deal,
22:50 like, totally differently, totally differently.
22:53 It's crazy, it's crazy.
22:55 - Oh man, we'll never forget it that night.
22:57 All right, that's Tim McCone.
23:00 Make sure you're following him on Twitter
23:02 at Tim_McCone on 95th at the Sports Hub.
23:06 Regularly throughout these,
23:07 some of these you're doing,
23:08 and you're doing pads pre and post this weekend, right?
23:10 That's your big resume game coming up.
23:13 - Yep, exactly.
23:14 It's all the scrubs for game two
23:16 on the field and off the field.
23:18 So there you go.
23:18 - Come on, come on, come on.
23:19 (Tim laughing)
23:21 All right, make sure you're checking out Tim there
23:23 and all the stuff on the Sports Hub and on Twitter.
23:25 We'll be back with you guys next week to see,
23:29 again, the Celtics August news.
23:32 Well, usually we expect it to be slow,
23:33 but it's been flown out of the faucet here.
23:36 So we'll see what's up next for next week.
23:38 And we'll talk to you guys then.
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