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00:00 of Ghana football? Well Ghana football started quite a long time ago. It was one great thing.
00:10 He was headmaster of a government school in Cape Cod. He started the thing and he recruited a few
00:19 local boys and they were practicing under moonlight and so on and bit by bit it developed until
00:28 Akrak, Hatsheput came in. Then there was Stamfast. Stamfast died. For a very long time we had Hatsheput
00:37 and Stamfast. Stamfast is now Olympics. And it went on like that. We had problems with coaching.
00:49 So when Ohinijan became the sports director, as I told you Kwame Nkrumah was interested in sport and
00:58 he knew Ohinijan was interested in sport and was doing everything. He was around Richard Akwe and so on.
01:07 He was doing football from Nsawa and he was there. So when Richard Akwe gave way,
01:20 there was this one, then we had problems with coaching. So Richard Akwe gave way to Ohinijan.
01:28 Let me say Richard Akwe's period passed off and then a new period with Ohinijan in it.
01:38 Adakwa in Nsawa. No, Adakwa was in Ashanti. And then they picked up the loose ends and started
01:50 developing it. And Ohinijan did a lot. He was more or less acting at the instructions of
02:01 Nkrumah. He brought in Real Madrid. Nkrumah personally organized that part of our history
02:14 in football and brought Real Madrid to Ghana. They played against the Black Sox.
02:20 It ended up in a 3-3 draw. And it went on then. Ohinijan developed, we were told
02:31 at the instruction of Kwame Nkrumah, he developed the Republicans. Real Madrid came,
02:39 then we had the Republicans. And the Republicans brought a lot of problems. People were picking the
02:46 best from each of the league clubs and people didn't like it. And it was believed, whether
02:54 right or not, whether true or not, I can't tell. It was believed that because of the bad blood
03:04 that this Republicans thing created, it ended up with this outside right player,
03:13 Baba Yara, getting involved in a road accident which ended up in his death.
03:20 So it was interesting. Ohinijan did well to develop football. Coaches came from outside,
03:29 from Germany, from Italy, from Brazil, all over. And they helped in the training of people. Ohinijan
03:40 at that stage wanted to develop other sports around football. He did it, he launched it,
03:48 but it didn't last. And it faded out. So we've had quite an interesting talk too.
03:57 A lot of it will go into my memories. Okay, so let's talk about when Real Madrid came to Ghana.
04:04 Were you the commentator for that game? Yes, I was. Who else? I was with my boss.
04:09 What was his name? Festus. Festus Haddai. The match took place at the stadium
04:18 on Saturday or Sunday. And you should have been there to see it.
04:27 I was nowhere near being born. You'll read it in my memo.
04:34 I was nowhere near being born. You were nowhere, nowhere.
04:37 Yeah, but people spoke about Ghana football then and Ghana football today. What were the things that
04:46 the 60s did right to get Ghana to win the African Cup of Nations in '63, '65, '78, '82?
04:56 All that was under Ohinijan. Ohinijan's planning, he was a bit dictatorial.
05:06 So people didn't like him much. Sometimes dictatorship can achieve things.
05:14 And the players who were featuring, CK Janfi, I don't hear his name anywhere now.
05:23 It's very painful. CK Janfi, he was a wonderful footballer. He did very well. He was a coach.
05:32 Went to train abroad, back in Ghana. Went to train back in Ghana.
05:38 You don't know about CK Janfi? Oh, I've heard a lot about him. I even have a copy of his book.
05:44 CK Janfi and others, Kwame Adau, Kwa outside right for Kotoko, Mfum, Mfum is still alive.
05:52 Dogo Moro. Unfortunately, he passed on a few days ago. Oh, Dogo Moro. Oh yeah.
05:59 And then Agrifin, the likes of Agrifin. Agrifin passed off. He left this planet too early.
06:07 You know, he and the number 10 chap,
06:12 you know, he's a tall big fellow. You know, he's passed off.
06:19 Whenever they were playing and Agrifin was in a good position, he would signal
06:31 the number 10 and say "Daiye" in Fante.
06:38 Means position yourself well. The pass will go to him and off it goes. And he had very strong,
06:45 the number 10, he had very strong foot. His shots were terrible to save.
06:52 You know, and they were going on like that. "Daiye" Kwabla or something. I think it was called Kwabla.
07:00 Yeah, but you spoke about how most of the things Ohenejian did were under the instruction of Kwame Nkrumah.
07:07 Yeah, that's right. This appears to suggest that government had a deliberate plan on what
07:11 they wanted to do with football. Yes, of course. Their deliberate plan at that time, during the time
07:18 of Kwame Nkrumah, Kwame Nkrumah saw the virtue in combining sport with unity. And so he was using
07:31 sport as an instrument to achieve political ends. The Union of Africa. So most of the time when
07:43 we traveled with the Black Star from here to play football, we had a contingent leadership
07:49 in the group. And when we got to our destination, they held meetings and so on behind
07:55 closed doors, which we didn't know about. So it worked that way. But it worked that way and also
08:04 brought results to on the pitch. Yes, indeed. And since we had the four successive
08:11 AFCON titles, we've not been able to do it in the game. We are still struggling. Yeah, we're still
08:17 struggling to at least add to the four victories. Is it about time? I'll come back to a
08:25 different story. But is it about time that government considers a deliberate plan on how
08:31 they want to run football in their country? You see, in football, we have amateur football.
08:38 Amateur football is playing football for the love of it. And then we have professional football,
08:45 which is a career. FIFA doesn't smile much on amateur football.
08:59 It doesn't want it. If I say it doesn't, it doesn't smile much on professional. Because FIFA
09:09 will always go in. FIFA is against the interference of governments in football affairs.
09:17 The governments manage somehow because some governments fund football development.
09:25 But FIFA also encourages partnerships between member associations and governments because
09:30 governments will always provide infrastructure. Yeah, but that relationship is difficult to
09:36 understand because they don't like it. They don't like governments to interfere.
09:42 And some of the associations report government activities to FIFA.
09:52 But I think one thing that we need to get clear, however, is that what FIFA do not want is for
10:01 politicians or government to dictate, to police the management of football.
10:09 But FIFA would always encourage that government should provide the infrastructure, government
10:19 should invest in the national teams. And if many years ago we had a deliberate support from
10:27 Kwame Nkrumah, always instructing Ohindijan for things to be done, and that brought success,
10:35 this kind of relationship wouldn't have happened. That is why I said the relationship between
10:42 FIFA and governments is very difficult to draw the line. Very difficult. Because one time they
10:51 are against it, one time they are for it. And it somehow is working.
10:57 Talk to me about Kotoko. Kotoko. Are you a Kotoko fan?
11:03 Not exactly. Hazardhook fan?
11:07 Not exactly. As a commentator I try not to get attached to any club. Because if you do that,
11:15 in your commentary it shows. However much you try not to. You are a human being, it comes out.
11:26 So I try to do a kind of...
11:29 You balance it. You draw your emotions.
11:34 That's right. I try not to get too involved. But if you ask me, Kotoko, I like them because
11:43 of their bravery, their winning sprees, and they are there. Whether you like it or not, they are
11:53 there.
11:53 Okay, so let me ask this question. Hazardhook is in Accra?
11:59 Hazardhook is in Accra, and I'm in Accra.
12:01 You are in Accra. That's out of town.
12:03 Kotoko is in Kumasi.
12:04 You know what? In the past, people regarded Hazardhook as a club that was supported by
12:14 fishermen. So they thought it was supported by illiterate people. That was what I learnt when
12:24 I came to the sea. But I think that idea has wadded off. And the difference is now.
12:34 What about Kotoko? You've just given us a brief history of Hazardhook,
12:38 whatever the perception that it was supported by fishermen. What's the brief history of Kotoko?
12:42 Kotoko is a tribal club for Ashantis. That's what people think. And to some...
12:52 You know, the Asantehini quite recently is showing. And there has always been Asantehini
12:59 interested in Kotoko. They show it. It's a kind of representing the soul of Ashanti
13:06 on the sporting scene.
13:09 Okay, so if Hazardhook is in Accra, Kotoko is in Kumasi,
13:13 how come these two clubs are rivals? What happened?
13:15 Well, it's because of their performance. Their performance, their achievements on the pitch.
13:22 So the rivalry between them is intense. And anytime they meet, it's a tug of war.
13:31 Anytime they meet, tug of war. And they manage to... Remember we had trouble in the
13:40 Cransthorpe Stadium. All sorts of things. I remember that when I was doing commentary,
13:49 anytime I did a match involving Asante Kotoko and Hazardhook, when I came back to base,
13:58 the officials in the house had mapped out where I was wrong, where I did this, where...
14:08 Oh, okay.
14:08 And then they called me and said, "When you were saying you showed too much of this,
14:12 you did too much of that," and so on. And it was part of the training
14:17 that I had as a commentator. So gradually, it shaped me. And finally, I became a kind of
14:25 disinterested commentator in clubs of the match.
14:32 What is your memory game that you've commentated on, be it Hazardhook domestically or in the
14:41 continental level, or Kotoko domestically on the continental level?
14:45 I think I'll select or pick the match between Asante Kotoko and En-Nobet. That was played
15:00 in Kinshasa.
15:01 This was in the '70s?
15:05 Yes, in the '70s. It was a match. That really was a match.
15:13 And I find it difficult to forget it.
15:15 Then Mobutu Sese Seko was the leader of Congo, and he displayed his whole-hearted support
15:33 for En-Nobet, coming to the stadium in a motorcade, or with a motorcade, of about 80 riders.
15:46 No joke. No joke at all. And then when they lost, he left in disappointment.
15:58 I'll give you the details in my memo.
16:02 I understand that, but in that game, what really happened?
16:08 What really happened in that game that you've chosen that one?
16:12 Yes, because the way in which En-Nobet supporters behaved, what they did to support En-Nobet,
16:28 and the way we, from Ghana, very cleverly squeezed ourselves out of any serious trouble,
16:41 is something that weighs on my mind.
16:43 Was it a game?
16:45 Because if we hadn't been careful, it could have resulted in something very bloody.
16:54 The way En-Nobet supporters worked on the feelings of their people, I went...
17:04 This will be in my memo. When I went to collect the team's sheet, what happened to me?
17:13 It remains a secret till now. You read my memo, you'll get it.
17:17 I was also going to say that you got lost at some point.
17:21 Got lost? No joke. No joke at all.
17:25 So what happened?
17:28 I was given a treatment that I didn't deserve at all.
17:33 They didn't want to give you the team's sheet?
17:34 They gave me the team's sheet, but before they did, something happened.
17:38 Did they beat you?
17:39 They didn't beat me. But they did something to me. They did something to me. Read my memo.
17:49 I will definitely have to read this memo.
17:52 But what about the Black Stars?
17:53 What about the Black Stars?
17:55 Like a game that you commented that you felt that, yeah, this Black Stars was this Black Stars game?
18:01 There are so many. So many. Black Stars, Real Madrid.
18:07 Yes, that was a match that made history.
18:11 It ended 3-3.
18:16 Yeah, and the Black Star was then rising.
18:19 Ohinijan did something which is interesting.
18:23 He said, "Anytime we talk about the Black Star, we should not say the Black Stars.
18:28 We should not make it plural. We should say the Black Star.
18:32 Represent the Black Star. Representing a club. I mean a national team. Black Star."
18:39 So it is the Black Star, not the Black Stars.
18:42 Yeah, not the Black Stars. But people don't care.
18:45 So we've diluted it.
18:47 Oh yeah, it's always the Black Stars. It should have been, or it should be the Black Star.
18:52 The Black Star. And the Black Star, they've done very well.
18:57 Except that now I think that the team needs a kind of reorganization.
19:14 It should be, when you have a car, you drive around for a period,
19:21 you go to the fittance to change the oil, and check your blocks and so on.
19:27 That's the kind of thing we should do to the Black Star.
19:29 We should revise it and then bring it up again.
19:36 Because I think there are a few problems in the camp which we may not do often.
19:43 I don't know because I'll find out a lot which I'll put into my memo.
19:49 My memo is about the Black Stars.
19:50 Okay, so there was a point that...
19:54 Let me ask the question this way.
20:00 Was there a point you were considered to be the leader of the Ghana Football Association?
20:05 Me?
20:06 Yes, was there a point like that?
20:07 Never. Never. There never was a point.
20:10 If there was, I didn't know about it. But never. Never.
20:14 But if it had come to your attention, would you have done it?
20:16 '96.
20:17 If it had come to your attention, if you were...
20:20 When I was younger.
20:21 Yes.
20:21 Maybe. Maybe I would have considered it.
20:25 Because it's an honor to be in charge of the Black Star.
20:30 It's a big honor.
20:33 And if they had proposed to me, if they had...
20:35 Well, I was involved in intercontinental relationships a lot.
20:41 There was one Egyptian who was in charge of organizing, it was the administrative side of
20:49 Africa Union.
20:50 And I traveled with him a number of times on some of his things.
20:54 Maybe he was slowly, not intentionally, unknown to himself.
21:03 He was getting me to be interested in the Africa Union thing.
21:07 Oh, okay.
21:08 Yeah.
21:09 Okay.
21:09 So maybe with that in mind, I would have picked up anything connected with the Black Stars,
21:17 connected with African unity.
21:20 There are people who also talk about the 1966 World Cup that Ohenegan said Ghana shouldn't go.
21:26 Oh, '66.
21:29 Oh, is it the rule of Africa?
21:32 When we went to Senegal, it was played in Senegal.
21:34 No, the World Cup.
21:35 No, the World Cup was held in England in 1966.
21:39 '66?
21:39 Yes, where Ohenegan...
21:41 Because they had said that Africa was supposed to compete with the likes of the Caribbean or it
21:47 was in the...
21:48 Or Senegal, so that they were willing to get one rep.
21:51 And Ohenegan wrote a letter to FIFA telling them that, no, Africa was not going to participate
21:57 in the competition.
21:58 Yeah, because of the number of places given to Africa.
22:01 Oh, okay.
22:02 Yeah.
22:03 And I think that is okay now.
22:05 Africa has quite a number of places.
22:10 The next World Cup will be in like nine countries.
22:12 That's right.
22:13 Let's see what happens.
22:15 I wasn't keen on that aspect yet.
22:18 Oh, okay.
22:18 Let's see what happens.
22:21 Let's see what happens.
22:22 Okay.
22:22 Africa is sitting fairly pretty now in affairs of FIFA.
22:28 Yeah.
22:29 Yeah.
22:30 When Pele, World Pele, said that there was an African country, Ghana, which could one
22:40 day be a winner of the World Cup because he had been here, he had seen the quality Ghanaian
22:45 players had and all that.
22:47 But since then, football appeared to have taken a nose dive.
22:55 The nose dive in, you see, unfortunately, we in Ghana are doing something that we should
23:06 watch.
23:06 We're injecting too much of politics into everything we do, into education, into medicine,
23:18 into everything.
23:21 Politics.
23:22 Politics.
23:23 Politics.
23:24 And not only politics, party politics is a divisive element.
23:32 It's a dividing thing.
23:34 Party politics.
23:36 It creates bitterness, it creates separation, and it blinds efficiency.
23:44 So I think we should watch it.
23:48 If we can eschew politics in almost everything we do, this country will be able to travel
23:56 very fast.
23:57 In this case, our football?
23:58 In football, yes.
24:00 Football as well.
24:01 Football, education.
24:02 Look at party politics in the schools.
24:05 One time, NPP in power, they extend the secondary school to three years, to four years, and
24:16 it's always on backwards.
24:17 You know, it's not a factor that we should allow to grow.
24:23 We should stop it.
24:25 You see, many people now in Ghana, they go into politics not to serve this country, but
24:33 to make money for their well-being.
24:35 And it shouldn't be that way.
24:37 I don't see it that way.
24:39 We should not go into politics just to make money or to be okay.
24:46 Let's go into politics because we are serving our rural areas.
24:50 Look at the rural area.
24:52 I listened a lot because these days I spend a lot of time in the house.
24:56 And what do you hear from the rural area?
24:59 Water, roads, sanitation, repeated every day.
25:06 And not much is being done about it.
25:09 Yeah.
25:09 Let's sign off the conversation pretty quick.
25:15 I was made to understand that there was a point you had to run to Nigeria.
25:19 What happened?
25:19 Politics.
25:22 Same politics.
25:23 When I left, I left GBC in 1973 out of frustration.
25:29 Frustration, I left GBC.
25:33 And I went to food distribution corporation as a public relations manager.
25:40 And from food distribution, I went into politics.
25:45 I was part of the outfit, the Ghanaian outfit that stood against union government.
25:55 Union government promoted by General Achanpo.
26:01 Oh, okay.
26:02 That's right.
26:02 There was a referendum whether Ghanaians liked it or not.
26:07 And Ghanaians kicked against it.
26:11 After that event, after the loss to Achanpo, they started arresting those of us who were
26:18 in the lead of the opposing group.
26:20 Yeah.
26:21 And I was to have been picked on a Saturday morning.
26:26 God being so good, I got the win of it.
26:30 And I left the country on the Tuesday, the following Tuesday, and went to Nigeria.
26:36 And already I had very good connections in Nigeria.
26:40 So I reported to my good friend, Ishola Foronso.
26:44 He was the leading commentator at the time.
26:47 Oh, okay.
26:48 And at the time I went, he was in charge of radio broadcasting, sound broadcast.
26:55 So I reported to him.
26:56 And you know what he said?
26:57 He said, "Joe, are you saying that Ghana doesn't want you?"
27:00 I said, "Yeah."
27:01 He said, "Look, there's a program going on downstairs at the music studio.
27:05 Go and join them."
27:07 That's how I started working with Nigerian broadcasting.
27:11 Oh, okay.
27:12 And they treated me very well.
27:13 I should say this and say it again.
27:16 They treated me very well.
27:18 They have a big training school.
27:20 I was given a chance to lecture at the training school, which I thought was a very big honor.
27:29 And when Buhari, who recently retired, when Buhari was a military head of state in Nigeria,
27:41 he had a second, a number two man called Idi Agbon.
27:46 Idi Agbon was known for his discipline.
27:50 He was a disciplinarian.
27:52 So he introduced a project called War Against Indiscipline, WAI.
27:59 And the day it was to be launched, I was asked to go and do the commentary at the National
28:09 Theater.
28:10 Oh, I see.
28:11 Yeah.
28:12 And everybody thought Nigerian broadcasting, they thought Idi Agbon being a disciplinarian
28:21 would arrive dead on time.
28:24 So I was alone as a commentator.
28:26 But when it was expected to arrive at five past eight, that day he arrived later.
28:35 He arrived later, about 20 minutes late.
28:39 And I was left on air.
28:42 I didn't have any notes.
28:43 And I had to talk from my experience, talk about discipline, talk about this, talk about
28:49 that.
28:50 When I came back to Nigerian broadcasting, I had a girlfriend out of that.
28:57 [LAUGHTER]
29:00 Victoria.
29:01 An Igbo woman.
29:04 And she would take me out on the weekends and introduce me to her friends.
29:11 This is my friend from Nigeria.
29:12 [LAUGHTER]
29:13 From Ghana.
29:14 This is my friend from Ghana.
29:15 This is my-- you know.
29:16 It was only friendship.
29:19 It didn't go beyond that.
29:21 That's a nice one.
29:21 So what advice would you offer to those who are managing football now?
29:25 Well, they have to clean their heads.
29:27 I intend visiting, sooner than later, I intend visiting the present head of football.
29:37 OK.
29:38 With his name is--
29:40 Keto Kriku.
29:41 Keto Kriku.
29:42 I want to visit him.
29:44 And then we have a little chat.
29:46 Maybe the little experience that I have, a little, I just give it to him.
29:50 If he takes it, OK.
29:51 If he doesn't, he is right there.
29:54 You know, I intend doing that.
29:56 When you say they have to clean their heads, what does it mean?
29:57 Yeah, they should remove prejudice.
30:01 They should remove hatred.
30:03 They should remove unnecessary competition.
30:07 They should-- anything negative should be out of their heads.
30:11 Let them think about football and Ghana.
30:15 And let them say to themselves, we are here to make Ghana great in football.
30:20 And it will happen.
30:21 Let them develop positive thinking.
30:24 Positive thinking all the time.
30:27 They should completely banish the things that have destroyed many things in Ghana today.
30:37 And, i.e., the politics, isn't it?
30:39 Yeah, the politics.
30:40 Politics is becoming--
30:41 Football too is becoming very political.
30:44 It has already become political.
30:47 Everybody is interested in football.
30:50 People are making money out of it.
30:52 Except you, Lati.
30:53 I never made money out of it.
30:54 Oh, you didn't make money in football?
30:55 No, I didn't.
30:56 What happened?
30:58 My mother told me a good name is better than riches.
31:01 And I have stuck to that till now.
31:04 Whether it's good or not, you ask me, I'll tell you.
31:08 You never made money in football?
31:12 No, no.
31:13 What my approach to life, generally, including football, is not to struggle for money.
31:21 Money at all costs.
31:23 No, no, no.
31:25 It leads to trouble.
31:26 So I am as I am.
31:29 Simple man.
31:30 I have many friends.
31:32 You know, I was fighting union government with President Nana Akufo-Addo.
31:39 Oh, really?
31:40 Yeah, we were together.
31:41 We were there fighting against union government.
31:45 We wanted pure, civilian, democratic setup.
31:50 And it has paid.
31:52 But I'm sure you probably had the opportunity of meeting the likes of Issa Hayatu, the likes of
32:01 Havline.
32:01 Oh, yeah.
32:02 In the course of time, during the time they were in office, now they are no longer there.
32:11 And it's a lesson to all of us.
32:13 You'll be there.
32:15 Sheikh Fiya said, "The world is a stage, and all the men and women are mere actors.
32:22 They have their exits and entrances."
32:25 We should always bear that in mind.
32:27 There's a time I wouldn't be here.
32:29 Nobody would talk about me anymore.
32:32 How many people talk about Kwame Nkrumah today?
32:35 There's not very many.
32:37 But he did-- we should be singing his praises almost every day.
32:42 But we're not doing that.
32:43 He has done his bit, and he's gone.
32:47 Interestingly, there's a secret I have about my connection with Kwame Nkrumah's mother.
32:56 When Kwame Nkrumah died, read my memoir.
33:00 You'll get it.
33:01 [LAUGHTER]
33:04 We'll get you to read that memoir.
33:06 And that, in your life, your children also picked up, right?
33:09 [APPLAUSE]
33:10 Your profession.
33:11 And proud of you.
33:13 One of them.
33:14 Jolati Jr.
33:15 That's right.
33:15 We have Jolati Jr.
33:17 We have George Lati.
33:20 Yes, George Lati, too.
33:21 George Lati, he was in the seat.
33:24 You know, broadcasting can make you frustrated.
33:31 GBC can inject frustration into your veins.
33:35 From the way things are going, I think they are working hard to correct it.
33:43 To restructure themselves.
33:44 Yeah.
33:45 Broadcast is a job that the welfare of the performers should be at the top.
33:53 Anything else will bring the place down.
33:56 Anything else.
33:59 If you forget about the performers, the people who really do the job in broadcasting.
34:05 Because there's a lot of strain.
34:07 There's a lot of stress.
34:09 There's a lot of all sorts of things.
34:12 And it's up to the management to be aware of this and not to do paperwork.
34:20 Paperwork, issuing queries and so on.
34:23 It don't help.
34:23 So there's some element of frustration in GBC.
34:29 And it should be removed.
34:30 And I think they are working on it.
34:32 I think so.
34:33 Final question.
34:34 Yeah.
34:35 Do you believe in the foreseeable future Ghana can win the World Cup?
34:41 Yes, we can.
34:42 We can.
34:42 Yes, I believe we can.
34:45 The other day we nearly won it.
34:46 We nearly did.
34:49 2010.
34:49 Very near.
34:50 We are in the one before the last.
34:52 The 2010 World Cup where we made the quarterfinal.
34:55 Yeah, the one in which the maestro, what was his name, shot the ball.
35:04 Adekosba Samoajan.
35:06 Yeah, Samoajan.
35:07 We nearly got into the final stage.
35:11 So we can.
35:13 If only we put a few things right, we can win the World Cup.
35:19 But have you been disappointed that in the last 40 plus years we've not won the African Cup?
35:25 Yes, it's painful.
35:28 Not disappointed alone.
35:29 It's painful that we haven't.
35:31 But I think, as I said, if we do a few things right, just a few things right, I think we can.
35:41 Because football appears to be in our blood.
35:46 It's part of us.
35:47 So let's see what can be done.
35:51 I've told you I want to meet the President, Clay Cook, and then we'll talk.
35:57 And I hope, sincerely, I pray that, you know, when you are cutting the path,
36:06 when it's crooked, you don't see it.
36:08 It's the man sitting elsewhere who...
36:10 So I hope he may take some of the things I tell him to have and act on it.
36:17 OK.
36:18 The other day I listened to a speech he was making and I thought it was very fine.
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