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00:00 Hello, there. You're watching the Press Preview, a first look at what is on the front pages.
00:11 Time then to see what's making the headlines with the Daily Mirror's Associate Editor,
00:14 Kevin Maguire, and the Daily Mail columnist, Sarah Vine. Welcome, and great to see both
00:18 of you. As ever, front pages then. Let's start with the Metro, which carries a poignant black
00:25 and white photograph to mark the death of the singer Sinead O'Connor at the age of 56.
00:31 Well, the star uses words from her biggest hit for its headline,
00:35 "Nothing Compared". And this is the Mirror. "Nothing Compared", same headline there.
00:41 Meantime, the Financial Times suggest Dame Alison Rose's resignation as the Chief Executive
00:48 of NatWest over the Nigel Farage affair has done little to restore the confidence
00:53 of shareholders in the bank. The Eye reports that business leaders now want ministers to
00:57 rein in the banks as a result of the NatWest incident. Same story, The Guardian says the
01:03 City Watchdog is worried that the NatWest saga is damaging the country as a whole.
01:07 The Telegraph says an investigation is now underway into whether NatWest
01:12 may in fact have broken the laws on data protection. The Daily Express leads with
01:17 growing pressure on the government from senior Tories to scrap what the paper calls the despised
01:22 inheritance tax, which is now affecting 17% of all families. The Daily Mail claims an exclusive
01:29 with ministers calling for a clampdown on allegedly corrupt immigration lawyers who
01:35 were named by the paper in their investigation over the past two nights. And a reminder that
01:40 by scanning the QR code you'll see on screen during the programme, you can check out the
01:44 front pages of tomorrow's newspapers while you watch us and listen to our guests. So let's head
01:48 straight to them, Kevin Maguire and Sarah Vine. And Sarah, why don't you pick up on, you know,
01:52 the front page of the Metro and others, lamenting the death of Sinead O'Connor. It's so sad, isn't
01:58 it? Because she was such an icon on the night, that video of her singing Nothing Compared to
02:03 You, you couldn't watch it without crying. I mean, she was such an emotional singer, but such an
02:09 incredible voice, I mean, beyond beautiful. And also those sort of wonderful doe eyes and that
02:15 very vulnerable look. She really was very special, but all her life she struggled because she had a
02:20 terrible childhood. She said she was abused by her mother. You know, I think the record industry sort
02:29 of was difficult for her. And then she was diagnosed with bipolar. And then this awful
02:35 thing where her son, her 17-year-old boy, killed himself. And I, you know, I just, I feel so sorry
02:41 for her. I think she's, she had a really rough time. And the pain comes through her singing,
02:45 does it not? You talked about this video, utterly mesmerising, and at one point tears rolling down
02:50 her cheeks. Sort of the pain of her life from her childhood, ending up institutionalised at the age
02:56 of 15 as well. And her mother that you mentioned, they're dying in a car crash. And in fact, the
03:01 Metro carries her last social media post about her, her son Shane, who died at the age of 17
03:09 at the beginning of last year. And the post says, "Been living as undead night creature since.
03:15 He was the love of my life, the lamp of my soul. We were one soul in two halves. He was the only
03:22 person who ever loved me unconditionally. I am lost without him." This genuine pain, Kevin.
03:28 No, absolutely. And the statement, very brief statement from the family, didn't state how she
03:33 died. But I think we can probably guess that it was our own hands, not being confirmed that,
03:39 for the suicide of her son. And she was incredibly troubled, incredibly creative and
03:44 brilliantly as a performer. Also an activist against abuse and what she saw.
03:52 Yeah, remember there was that famous thing where she tore up a picture of the Pope,
03:55 didn't she, on Saturday night? Yeah, and the US got a lifetime ban by that US TV channel.
04:01 But she never regretted what she did because she was making a point that abuse within the
04:05 Catholic Church had been covered up and its victims had been ignored. But it's just terrible.
04:11 I heard on Sky News she'd die out, whoa, 56, that's incredibly young. And then you stop and
04:19 you think, well, she was incredibly troubled. And all those reasons, the suicide of her son,
04:24 bipolar, suffered abuse and so on. And maybe there was a terrible inevitability about it,
04:31 I'm sad to say. She was a sort of odd combination, wasn't she, of very vulnerable,
04:36 but also incredibly brave in a lot of the things that she did. She was very outspoken.
04:40 So we've got a really sort of strange combination of characters. Yeah, that's why she'll be missed,
04:46 not just as a singer and a performer, but as that activist and that human being. And
04:51 saying things some other people wouldn't and using her platform. Yeah, using her beautiful
04:55 voice musically. And then her campaigning voice across the world about the Catholic Church,
05:01 as you mentioned. And at one point converting through a different, non-accepted part of the
05:07 Catholic Church as a Catholic priest and then converting to Islam. So with multiple names
05:12 through her life as well, or the latter part of her life. But 10 albums to her name, involved
05:20 even currently with the production of music as well, even right now. So a long career,
05:26 but very, very sad news, dying there at just the age of 56. And certainly her face,
05:32 as you can see on many of the front pages. I think on the newspapers, I think when it's
05:37 been black and white, stark, particularly because it's the death, I think it's more effective and
05:43 carries a stronger message than those papers that have used colour pictures. Yeah, the one in front
05:48 of the Guardian is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's move on, shall we, to Nigel Farage in the
05:55 Financial Times and other newspapers. What happens now? What is the fallout? Was it right that the
06:01 CEO of NatWest went when it was probably not her that exited Nigel Farage in the first place?
06:06 Has he been right to speak out about those on the board of NatWest? And indeed, the 10 other banks,
06:11 he says, have refused him a bank account, Sarah? I mean, I think, you know, the problem with her
06:17 was that she spoke to a BBC journalist about a client's private details, you know, at a dinner
06:23 party or whatever it was, and I don't think that's right. So I think, you know, it was probably right
06:26 that she went. I don't see why anybody else needs to go. I think, I think coots were silly. You
06:33 can't, you can't make judgments about people based on whether or not you agree with their
06:37 politics, whether or not they should be allowed to have a bank account. As long as you haven't
06:40 done anything illegal, it's not up to the bank to make that decision. So I think they have to,
06:44 they have to sit and they have to review their policy, I think. I mean, and I think what's
06:50 interesting about this whole Farage thing is it's, it's, it's shown how, how skilled a politician he
06:57 really, really is. I mean, he's very good at getting his point across. You know, he's, he's,
07:03 he's managed to almost bring down a major bank. But are you sad that a senior woman in the city,
07:10 which has so few, has lost that position and others? She's effectively been cancelled by him
07:16 over his bank account. Well, he'd not made it public. None of it would have happened, of course.
07:20 He would have just got another bank account with another bank. Well, yes, but on the other hand,
07:23 he was cancelled by his own bank, which is not, not acceptable. I don't, I don't think, I don't
07:28 think he was wrong. I don't think he was wrong. And I, and I don't think she should keep her job
07:34 just because she's a woman. I mean, I think if you make a mistake like that, and I don't think
07:37 it's right, if you are seriously in charge of a bank, you shouldn't talk about a private, a client's
07:42 private details with a journalist. But she was confirming statements that a journalist had said
07:45 that were in the public domain, wasn't she? If you look carefully at the statement she made
07:48 yesterday about this. The savings and investments, the one in the three million. Look, look, I think
07:52 she made a mistake. I think, I think Coots was wrong. But we've got to have a sense of proportion
07:56 here. And Nigel Farage, St, St Nigel, you know, the martyr of Brexit. I mean, come on. I mean,
08:02 she made a mistake. What about Brexit? It's not delivered anything he promised. You know,
08:07 it's a hundred billion plus cost. It's created mayhem for businesses and people. No, no, no,
08:12 but it is. It's to get, it's to get it in a sense of proportion. As Martin Lewis, the money
08:17 expert said, 40 billion was a scam of the banks involved in PPI and nobody had to resign. I mean,
08:25 what I think is most interesting about this, and yeah, Farage is a fantastic campaigner. He's got
08:29 a lot of right wing papers cheering him on. It's the way he's got so many senior people in the UK
08:33 Conservative government in his pocket who are frightened of him, including the Chancellor,
08:37 Jeremy Horne and the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak. No, it's like the Trojan horse of support coming
08:41 from the Conservative cabinet. Why are they backing him so much on this issue, do you think?
08:45 Well, I think because they, because they feel that it's, I mean, I think a lot of people feel
08:48 that this kind of behaviour by a bank is quite sinister. Were you nearly going to say wokeism?
08:54 Is that what you mean? Well, because the thing is, is let's not forget that when Nigel Farage
09:00 told everybody about what had happened to him, there were then loads of other people who came
09:03 out and said the same thing has happened to me. There was a vicar, there were various other people
09:06 who were sort of just, you know, not famous politicians, but who'd found that their bank
09:11 accounts had been withdrawn for various reasons. My colleague Dominic Lawson wrote a piece about
09:18 his daughter who has Down syndrome being denied a bank account because her grandfather was once
09:23 Chancellor of the Exchequer. So it wasn't, not just Nigel Farage, I mean, there's a principle
09:28 here, which is that what is the job of a bank? Is it to make moral judgments about its clients
09:33 and to say, no, you can't have a bank account because we don't like your money? Or is it to
09:39 just look after your money? I must have missed the outrage from Nigel Farage and UK government
09:44 ministers of the million plus poorer people who have been denied or had bank accounts taken away
09:50 from. Where was their outrage over there? You've got a very public influential figure they're
09:55 clearly politically scared of, where they tremble and do his bidding. But I've missed
10:01 their concern about ordinary people. Well, welcome back. You are watching the press preview with me
10:08 now, Kevin Maguire and Sarah Vine. Europe's been burning as we see in those fires. And the big
10:13 question has been whether the top of the Conservative Party has its eye off the ball.
10:17 Roll into the Guardian. They say the first interview with Zach Goldsmith, you know, a family
10:23 that traditionally has been environmental campaigners. And he's called Michael Gove a
10:26 monster and also criticised Grant Shapps, the Energy and Net Zero Secretary for taking backward
10:31 steps. Tell us more. Yeah, Zach Goldsmith used to be considered quite friendly with Michael Gove.
10:36 Maybe they've just fallen out now. I think the Conservative Party is now having an internal
10:41 debate about this, just as Labour is after EULAIRS and the impact on the Oxbridge by-election.
10:45 Yes, and actually rowing back on some of their policy commitments.
10:47 And that voters say, yes, we believe we've got to take action against climate change,
10:51 but then they seem to kick back against individual policies where it's going to cost them money and
10:55 inconvenience. And I think there is, you know, the planet is worth saving, but you can see that
11:00 the priority in truth for both Starmer and Sunak is to win the election. And they're going to come
11:05 up with short-term policies over the next 15, 18 months that will achieve, they think will achieve
11:12 that rather than saving a world, which if it gets drier and hotter for longer, we're going to have
11:19 more of these fires. You can have extreme weather. So you will also get storms too with great winds
11:25 and floods. It's a nightmare. Well, we've seen that in Switzerland and Northern Italy.
11:28 Absolutely. But you can see Labour's got this big debate. Focus was on Labour after EULAIRS
11:33 and Oxbridge, but you can see the Conservative Party too is having a row.
11:36 Yes, indeed. And the story floated actually that, for example, the energy requirements on
11:41 landlords might be postponed. So that was another element. Another one, which possibly the
11:46 Conservatives think is a vote winner, is to tackle inheritance tax. Yes. Yes. I mean, I disagree with
11:50 Kevin on this. Kevin thinks that inheritance tax is fantastic and there should be more of it. I
11:54 think it should be higher. I think there are a lot of people who find themselves now in the
12:01 inheritance tax threshold. In fact, I think there's been an increase, 17% surge in families
12:06 who are now impacted by inheritance tax. And that's to do with the fact that the property
12:09 market is massively inflated. So, you know, you get little old ladies who bought their bungalow
12:12 in 1973 for £3,000 and then they die and then it's worth £500,000 and their family end up having
12:18 to sell it in order to pay the inheritance tax. I personally think that, you know, it's a tax on
12:23 ambition. I think it's good to want to leave something to your children to give them a help.
12:29 And also, you know, today in today's world... It's a tax on something for nothing.
12:32 It's not... But what do you work for, is what she said. Yeah, exactly.
12:35 You enjoy it, but you're dead. Mum said a shroud has no pocket. She can't take it with you.
12:40 You work to support your family. For example... Wait, wait, wait.
12:43 Shh. What? Wait, wait. Sorry.
12:46 I put love to my own heart. Right, that's it. Blimey, blimey.
12:50 I feel I've got it. The Barbie world. Sorry, sorry. I'm really sorry.
12:53 Just start calling me Ken. I'm really, really sorry.
12:56 Very quickly. When we grew up, we had our university
12:59 degrees paid for. We didn't have loads of student debt. Hang on.
13:02 We didn't end up... It wasn't impossible for us to get on the property ladder.
13:05 Quickly, quickly. Look, look, look.
13:06 Go on, quickly. There's 17% increase.
13:09 There's only 4,000... 27,000. 27,000 people out of 722,000 who die.
13:14 Hardly anybody pays it because a single person can pass on half a million tax-free
13:19 and a couple can pass on a million tax-free. Look, it's...
13:22 What do these people want? They just want money for nothing.
13:25 It's welfare. That's what it is. We will talk about that.
13:28 It's filthy people. Why do you care about it?
13:30 Whoever. It's 7 billion because they're filthy rich.

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