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Histoires de Gangsters Joe Mad Dog Sullivan
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00:00 Joe Sullivan has always been a killer.
00:05 Not only a killer on the run, but also a serial killer.
00:08 Everyone was extremely afraid of him.
00:11 I'd be lying if I told you I didn't like the action,
00:14 the chase, the excitement.
00:18 You learn quickly that if you don't kill, you get killed.
00:22 And he excelled at that.
00:24 25, 30, 35.
00:27 There was a lot of it. I didn't count it.
00:30 I didn't know about the murders. I loved my husband.
00:33 I was naive.
00:35 It was a game at first.
00:37 Then it went to be a nightmare.
00:39 When you become a monster, you become a villain.
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17:41 Gail thinks he's working with John Sullivan at the union.
17:44 But she has suspicions when Joe comes home with blood on his suit after killing Devaney.
17:50 I really didn't get the trick that he was doing.
17:54 But, once you see that he's gone away, it was kind of like a paste.
17:58 Something's really bad happening here.
18:01 Joe has no explanation and Gail doesn't ask for it either.
18:08 After Devaney, Sullivan completes four other contracts for the Genovese family.
18:12 Then, John Sullivan asks Joe to kill another important target.
18:20 The most violent man in Spillane, named Eddie Kamsky, the butcher.
18:26 August 20th, 1976, Hell's Kitchen.
18:30 Early in the afternoon, Joe goes to the Sunbride Saloon, where Kamsky has his habits.
18:37 He wears the same make-up as Devaney.
18:39 Kamsky is at the bar with friends. Joe comes in, watches and waits.
18:49 He goes into action while Kamsky is having fun with his friends.
18:54 He said, "We had a good time. I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to do that again,
18:58 because any day someone can come in and blow my head off."
19:02 That someone was Joe Sullivan.
19:06 The two main men in the Irish pegrary are now out of the picture.
19:11 Joe Sullivan's next contract was to open the door to the Italian mafia
19:16 to take control of Hell's Kitchen and to make Sullivan's reputation a living hell.
19:22 In 1977, the Irish and Italian families fight for the purchase of the real estate market in Manhattan.
19:34 In this war, Joe Sullivan has eliminated six enemies of the Genovese family,
19:40 including two ferocious men of Mickey Spillane, their Irish rival.
19:45 But the share that Joe receives from his intermediary, John Sullivan, is very small.
19:54 I get like $300, $400 per month.
19:59 Meanwhile, I'm coming in with $700 a month.
20:03 I expected it to pay better.
20:06 And it was always told to me, "Don't worry, big money is coming."
20:11 I showed my risk. I showed my loyalty.
20:14 But for Joe, it's not just the money that counts.
20:18 I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the action.
20:22 I always liked the chase, the excitement, not the murder itself.
20:29 [explosion]
20:30 Gail, his girlfriend, has suspicions, but she's more and more in love with Joe.
20:37 She sheds her doubts while Joe lives a double life.
20:41 Joe always kept everything separate.
20:44 He kept that life as much separate as he could.
20:48 I never knew what that was, I never knew what happened.
20:51 Killers like Sullivan have a tremendous ability to compartmentalize.
20:56 Their professional life, if you can call it a profession, is totally separate from their family life.
21:03 In 1977, Gail Wiener's divorce is pronounced and her relationship with Joe Sullivan is official.
21:17 I just loved her. You could see her goodness.
21:22 She loved people. She was my opposite.
21:26 She was all of the life that I had missed.
21:30 The couple is at the height of happiness when Gail learns she's pregnant.
21:36 On March 19, they get married.
21:39 Six months later, Gail gives birth to a boy, Ramsey Kenneth Sullivan.
21:45 At 38, Joe navigates between his two lives.
21:51 Joe's father's and husband's, and the killer's.
21:56 With the murder of Kameski, Spillane's man of the house,
22:02 Sullivan now has more than half a dozen bodies under his belt.
22:09 But leading a double life is a heavy burden.
22:16 Joe is drawn into a spiral of hell, into alcohol and cocaine, into the world of nightclubs.
22:21 I was doing that on one side, and on the other, I was doing that in order to sleep.
22:26 To explain his absence at night, Joe tells Gail he works as a waiter in a nightclub.
22:33 The job in the dark completes his so-called employment at the union for John Sullivan.
22:40 And if everything doesn't look very good, Gail doesn't ask any questions.
22:45 It wasn't my life, so I... and it didn't affect me, per se.
22:51 So if that was Joe's job, I'm sure he didn't know the people that I associated with.
22:57 At the beginning of 1977, Joe's employer contacts him for another mission,
23:03 to eliminate Spillane's last man of the house, Tom Kapatos, the Greek.
23:08 For several weeks, Joe watches his target.
23:15 He remembers the habits of Kapatos, the Greek, including his morning walk.
23:19 Kapatos paid the doorman to tell him if there were people in the street,
23:24 except for those who walked their dog.
23:26 It was the only thing that didn't arouse his suspicions.
23:29 Sullivan had the idea of going for a walk,
23:33 to get close enough to Kapatos and kill him.
23:41 January 27, 1977, 6.15 a.m.
23:45 In the cold, Joe Sullivan walks his dog, Duke,
23:51 in the snow that covers the corner of 34th Street and 10th Avenue.
23:55 With a .38 caliber in his pocket,
23:58 Joe approaches his prey with his dog, Duke, to cover him.
24:02 But while Joe is very close to his target...
24:04 Duke decides to do his poop. I said, "This dog is not real."
24:10 Joe shoots at the dog's leash.
24:12 He sees me doing that, and his instinct kicks in.
24:17 Kapatos understands what's going on and starts running.
24:21 I shot, boom, boom.
24:23 You have to go hard. Bang!
24:26 I went to see him quickly, he was dead.
24:30 Tony Salerno's plans are finally realized.
24:35 Mick Aspie Lane's men are all dead.
24:39 Joseph Sullivan systemically took out all the members of Mick Aspie Lane's organization.
24:46 Without him, the Genovese would not have been able to get their hands on the juicy markets of the West Side,
24:52 like the West Side Palace, the Jacob Javits Convention Center.
24:56 After Kapatos, Joe Sullivan says he has executed eight more contracts.
25:03 But he won't say more, for fear of new lawsuits.
25:08 Without his men, Mick Aspie Lane's days are numbered.
25:12 On May 13, 1977, his time has come.
25:16 But Joe Sullivan is not at fault.
25:21 The authorities think his murder was orchestrated by a little truant named Jimmy Cunanan.
25:26 He is the leader of a very violent Irish gang, the Westies.
25:34 In 1977, the Westies made themselves known to the mafia by a series of murders,
25:39 including that of the famous bookmaker Robbie Stein.
25:42 Stein had close ties with the Genovese family.
25:47 After the murder, Joe Sullivan now has a new target, Jimmy Cunanan.
25:52 It is by pursuing him that Mad Dog Sullivan will make the worst mistake of his bloody career.
26:02 It was like signing my death warrant.
26:04 At the end of the 1970s, in New York, a real war between the Italians and the Irish.
26:14 The stakes, the lucrative real estate markets of the West of Manhattan, which are worth millions of dollars.
26:24 The killer Joe Sullivan is in the middle of the battlefield.
26:29 He has committed more than a dozen murders for the Genovese family.
26:33 The most important victims on his list are the three key men of the Irish clan.
26:38 Tommy Devaney, dead sitting at a bar.
26:44 Eddie Comesky, the butcher, killed with a bullet in the head.
26:49 And Tommy Kapatos, the Greek, gone for a morning walk, which he never returned.
26:58 The number of victims of Sullivan is still rising, just like his reputation, which is worth the nickname of Mad Dog, the angry dog.
27:05 When Joe Sullivan became so important, the people of the neighborhood gave him that name.
27:12 Everyone was extremely afraid of him, even the cops.
27:16 Joe had six or seven different personalities.
27:20 He was Joe, and then he was Sully, and then all of a sudden he was Joe the Killer.
27:26 He could be anything he wanted, he could be, you know, he could be something on the law of Joe.
27:30 And the corpses are piling up.
27:33 In 1978, his boss, John Sullivan, gives him another contract to fill for the Genovese family.
27:41 The Irishman, Jimmy Cunanan.
27:44 But Sullivan is starting to get tired of his work.
27:48 I always said, I'm dying a little bit with each of my victims, and I laughed at it.
27:55 But I felt like I was becoming the bad guy in person.
27:58 The mafia is starting to weigh on his other family.
28:03 The pressure, the murders, all that, I didn't want to bring that home.
28:09 He just didn't want to face anything.
28:12 I was telling him questions, but he was telling me a lot of lies, and he didn't know what to do.
28:21 Joe is also troubled by the fact that he likes his target, Jimmy Cunanan.
28:25 But he remains professional.
28:28 It was just a job, and if he didn't do what he had to do, killing was just business.
28:35 But by pursuing his goal, Sullivan will offer a capital law.
28:49 For several weeks, Joe is looking for Jimmy Cunanan, in vain.
28:53 He manages to locate Cunanan's right arm, Mickey Featherstone.
28:58 Featherstone lives in the heart of Hell's Kitchen, in a dilapidated building.
29:03 Sullivan decides to pay him a visit.
29:07 I want to get this over with. I'm tired of it.
29:12 I've had it. So I've been thinking a little.
29:18 Joe wants to use Featherstone to reach Cunanan, using their common Irish roots.
29:23 Joe offers him an alliance, the Irish against the Italians.
29:29 I told him, "These f****** pigs are forcing us to kill each other.
29:34 I killed Comiskey, Devaney. Why don't we get together to fix this?
29:39 All I want to do is talk to Jimmy and you."
29:45 It's a stunning revelation.
29:48 Sullivan just confessed that he killed Mickey's men.
29:52 Featherstone immediately brings the information to Cunanan,
29:57 and the news reaches the ears of Genovese and John Sullivan.
30:01 He then summons Joe for a face-to-face.
30:05 He's almost mad.
30:07 No, but you're crazy.
30:09 I do everything to cover your tracks, and you run to tell them that you killed everyone?
30:14 Then tell them you're f****** dead.
30:16 He says, "Go home to Queens."
30:19 Go on home to Queens.
30:20 Until now, Sullivan has been an important asset to the Genovese family.
30:26 When they wanted to get rid of someone without being able to put the murder on their back,
30:30 they asked Sullivan.
30:32 If they didn't want to be brought back to them, they hired Sullivan.
30:35 When you kill someone without being able to say anything, it ends up working for you.
30:42 For two years, Joe is forgotten.
30:44 The couple lives thanks to Gail's job in an advertising agency,
30:49 which gives Joe time to realize his mistake.
30:53 How the hell could I make a mistake like that?
30:56 It was like signing my death warrant.
30:58 I did it without being conscious.
31:01 Joe doesn't work and has no contracts to fill.
31:06 He can spend time with his young son, Ramsay.
31:10 I'll never forget going to Rockaway Beach and splashing around.
31:16 We used to kind of walk along the beach and he would talk to me.
31:21 But despite his efforts to be a father, Joe can't get rid of alcohol and drugs.
31:27 He even starts a relationship with a friend's sister, Teresa Palmieri, 23 years old.
31:36 It was part of my self-destruction.
31:39 It's terrible to say.
31:41 Everything was my fault.
31:43 I thought I could have the butter and the money for the butter.
31:46 While Joe thinks he can no longer be useful to the mafia, he receives a call.
31:52 In 1980, after being on the hook for two years, Joe is entrusted with a new mission.
32:01 John called me and said, "Come on, we've got a big banana to peel."
32:06 In 1980, Joe "Mad Dog" Sullivan goes to jail.
32:10 In four years, he has filled more than 20 contracts for the Genovese clan.
32:16 There were a lot of people.
32:20 They were bad guys like me, in the end.
32:23 Basically, it's not a pardon.
32:25 A murder is a murder.
32:27 It was like a war.
32:29 I was a bad guy.
32:32 It was like a war.
32:33 It was a game.
32:36 Then it went to become a nightmare.
32:39 To make matters worse, his secret life is also being dissolved.
32:44 Joe has angered his mafia bosses by confessing to their Irish rival.
32:48 And while he tries to be forgotten in the Queens, he plunges deeper into alcohol and drugs.
32:56 He tried to get out of the drug as a coping mechanism to escape all of the bad things he did.
33:02 In addition to his addictions, Joe has a relationship with a young woman, Teresa Palmieri.
33:08 His wife, Gail, had ended up forgetting the suspicions she had about her husband's work.
33:14 Now, she does the same thing for her love life.
33:18 I'm very good at finding excuses for Joe.
33:22 When Joe had the burden, I told him, "He's part of the crowd. He will do the same thing we're doing it."
33:26 The only way I survived was to go back to business and everything was normal.
33:32 I lived in denial. It was a very easy way to live.
33:35 And even if Joe manages to solve the problems of his personal life, the problems of his professional life remain.
33:43 It was all I knew.
33:45 And maybe I was afraid to let it go.
33:50 Who am I? What am I doing if I don't do that?
33:53 That's what I've always done.
33:55 Joe is also a great loyalty to John Sullivan.
34:00 He was almost like a father to me.
34:02 At least, that's what I felt.
34:04 As soon as he called me, I answered. I was there when he needed me.
34:09 In 1980, Joe accepts a new contract.
34:15 This time, it's a big head of the Philadelphia Mafia that's targeted.
34:19 East Harlem in New York.
34:28 Around Pleasant Avenue, the neighborhood has changed dramatically over time.
34:32 In the 1930s and 1940s, a hundred thousand Italians settled in the neighborhood, which is why it is called "Italian Harlem".
34:41 In 1980, the Hispanics took the place.
34:48 But some Italian mafiosi still reign supreme in the neighborhood.
34:51 Among them, Tony Salerno.
34:53 He has been managing his affairs since his headquarters, the Palma Boys Social Club, as well as other neighboring addresses.
35:00 In April 1980, Joe Sullivan is summoned.
35:05 John called me. He said, "Bring it on. We've got a big banana to peel."
35:10 The big banana being Antonio Caponigro, nicknamed Tony Bananas.
35:16 He took the head of the organized crime in Philadelphia, in place of Angelo Bruno.
35:21 Bruno was shot in the head in his car.
35:26 Tony Bananas is suspected of having ordered Bruno's murder in a power struggle.
35:33 But the murder is not sanctioned by the New York Mafia Commission, which brings together the five largest families of organized crime.
35:42 The Commission had close ties with Bruno, and a month after his death, it wants its revenge.
35:47 The Genovese clan and Tony Salerno set their course.
35:52 April 17, 1980. Joe arrives in Spanish Harlem with his intermediary, John Sullivan.
36:01 Tony Salerno has arranged a meeting with Tony Bananas in one of his favorite places.
36:07 Joe Sullivan does not come empty-handed.
36:11 He has a .45-caliber Mac-11, but with a 30-round magazine. He had the silencer long like that.
36:17 Joe places himself in the shadow of the eyes.
36:21 Tony Bananas enters. As he goes to sit, Joe comes out of the long.
36:28 I said, "Hey, Tony. You didn't have a sweet death."
36:32 I was surprised. He wasn't afraid at all.
36:35 He moved straight towards me like a rhinoceros charging.
36:40 Boom! Three times I had to shoot. He came right back over the wall.
36:44 He just slid along the wall, and he's like hissing.
36:52 He's in this rattle.
36:55 I got him after, but he had $23,000 in his pocket.
36:59 And then I went in.
37:02 Come in.
37:05 The next morning, Tony Bananas' crippled body was found in the Bronx, in the trunk of a car.
37:10 He has money stuck in every hole.
37:14 The mafia wants to send the message that he died from being too greedy.
37:19 Joe says that Tony Bananas' murder is the last contract the Genovese clan has given him.
37:25 That was about the end of me, too, at that moment.
37:30 Joe is falling even deeper into alcohol and drugs, and life at home is getting more and more difficult.
37:35 On February 11, 1981, his wife, Gail, gives birth to a second boy, who they call Kelly.
37:42 But Joe is not in a state of being a new father. He sniffs a gram of cocaine a day.
37:50 To sleep, he mixes a half-liter of scotch and sedatives.
37:55 Mad Dog Sullivan collapses.
37:58 He started to engage in really risky behavior, and it was not the mafia that made him do it.
38:03 Eventually, it comes to an end. A very traumatic end.
38:08 1981. Joe Sullivan's double life is over.
38:15 In a few years, he has committed more than 20 murders for the Genovese clan.
38:26 He has also developed an addiction to alcohol and cocaine.
38:29 Drugs prevent him from fully enjoying his second son.
38:35 A few months later, Teresa tells him that she is pregnant.
38:41 The news makes him dive even deeper into drugs.
38:46 Joe thinks he can regain control of his life by going back to what he knows best, killing.
38:55 In June, his new target is a former co-detainee, Brian Mollies.
38:59 When Mollies is suspected of a triple murder, Sullivan is mentioned in the investigation.
39:05 Joe is furious when the police question him.
39:09 He knows what Mollies is involved in, but rather than talking to the police, he decides to kill Mollies himself.
39:17 I can't kill him, but I can kill him.
39:22 Joe goes to Brian's house in Manhattan. To avoid arousing suspicion, he comes with Gail.
39:27 Mollies is at his house with a friend.
39:31 Sullivan's plan is to take out his gun and shoot the two men when Gail is in another room.
39:37 But the gun is out of range. The targets flee. Joe grabs Gail by the arm and leaves the apartment.
39:43 He asked me if I was sure I hadn't touched anything, and we just left. We ran, and I knew that was it. It was the end.
39:52 The next day, Joe is found dead in a room in the apartment.
39:56 After this episode, Joe hides.
40:00 But the machine is launched. In the summer, a special unit is set up to find him.
40:06 Joe turns to his former employer.
40:11 A meeting is arranged, but John Sullivan is not in the mood to help him.
40:17 Not only does he refuse to give him some money, but he tells him that he should no longer contact him.
40:22 When he wasn't able to help me, it hurt. I was naive, and he knew me well. He played me like a fool.
40:29 Joe needs money, and he joins a former co-detainee, Marco Tedesco.
40:37 In December, he sets up a plan with three other Long Island drug dealers.
40:44 Joe and Marco want to rob a stock of powerful painkillers in a pharmacy to sell it to the other three men.
40:51 But when they enter the pharmacy, they can't find the hidden ones.
40:58 Joe thinks of a comeback, and his suspicions are confirmed when he finds the other three men, and that two of them are armed.
41:08 Joe kills all three of them, then turns to Marco.
41:14 He always had a knife with him. I told him, "You're the butcher. Make sure they're dead."
41:18 Tedesco cuts their throat. One of them survives by miracle and can identify his attackers.
41:26 Tedesco is quickly arrested, but Joe manages to escape. He hides in Rochester.
41:33 He still needs money, and contacts two old friends of the mafia.
41:40 Joe is in their peace, and Thomas Taylor, aka the Toms.
41:43 The Toms are at war with a well-established group to control the money games.
41:51 They hire Joe to eliminate their three rivals, starting with John Fiorino, aka Johnny Flowers.
41:59 On December 17, nine days after the Long Island shooting, Joe traps Fiorino as he's about to enter a restaurant.
42:09 He's a couple feet from the door, and I yell, "Fiorino!"
42:13 He spun around, and boom! I shot him for the first time.
42:16 Fiorino tries to grab a gun from his boot.
42:20 I was already on him, and boom! I finished him.
42:24 Joe runs away, but it snows a lot.
42:29 A police officer spots him in his disoriented behavior, and he chases him.
42:36 Joe walks a few streets, then crashes his car and continues on foot, exchanging gunshots with the police officer.
42:42 He hides in the snow for several hours, before leaving the city discreetly.
42:48 Two months later, he's back in Rochester, and locks himself in a motel.
42:54 He contacts the Toms, hoping to fill the other two contracts, but he'll never get the chance.
43:01 Sullivan is arrested on February 22, 1982.
43:06 Tom Taylor probably set him up for capture.
43:09 Taylor got word that he was a state policeman, and told him to stay put.
43:12 And when he woke up the next morning, there was an FBI surrounding the location.
43:17 The FBI agents who arrested Joe Sullivan say they were shot.
43:23 The hunt is over for Joe "Mad Dog" Sullivan.
43:30 He's 25 years in prison for the murder of John Fiorino, and 75 years in prison for the murders of Long Island dealers.
43:39 After all these years of suspicion, Gayle can no longer live in denial.
43:45 Her husband is a murderer.
43:48 But even this undeniable fact is not enough to break the bond that unites them.
43:55 I actually do love Joe. Because he's a good man.
43:58 Even if he's not for the others, he's a good man.
44:02 Ramsay, Joe's son, is married and has two children.
44:06 Kelly also has a child, and is sheltered in Iraq, in the Marines.
44:11 For them, their father is a good man.
44:15 He made his mistakes, but I still look at him as a good person.
44:21 I look at him as my father. I love him as much as any son of a father.
44:25 My father taught me to be a good man. He told me not to follow the same road that he did.
44:30 He taught me the difference between right and wrong, even though he didn't feel it was right.
44:35 At 70, Joe Sullivan knows he's going to die in prison.
44:40 He can't ask for parole until 2070.
44:45 I could regret a lot of things.
44:49 But it's for my wife and my children that I regret the most.
44:52 For what I've caused them to go through, and for the life we could have.
44:56 It's something I can't forgive myself.
45:00 It's something you can't forgive yourself.
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