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The Garden Report's Bobby Manning, A. Sherrod Blakely and Nick Gelso react to Jaylen Brown signing a 5 year, $304 million contract. The deal is the lucrative agreement ever made in NBA history.
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00:00 an emergency guard report.
00:01 The one you've been waiting for for 25 days.
00:05 They get-
00:06 - Well, who's telling besides me, right?
00:08 (all laughing)
00:10 - Jalen Brown, five years, $304 million.
00:15 He gets the full super max.
00:17 He gets no player option, but does get a trade kicker.
00:21 So negotiations boil down to that.
00:23 Still waiting to see on some incentives,
00:25 whatever else might be in there.
00:27 But for now, looks like Brown pretty much gets
00:31 everything he's looking for here.
00:32 The Celtics get an extra year of team control.
00:35 I'm sure that's what they held out on till the end here.
00:38 And he is now ineligible to be traded for a year.
00:43 So Jalen squarely with the Celtics
00:46 for at least a year here,
00:47 but probably longer than that.
00:48 Sherrod, first take.
00:50 - Well done, Jalen Brown.
00:56 He gave us, this is the thing about Jalen.
00:59 He's a pretty straight, no nonsense guy,
01:01 but he gave us a little drama with this
01:03 by having meetings in Vegas that don't get a deal done.
01:07 And there was a sense that what's holding this thing up,
01:10 what's holding this thing up.
01:11 And Jalen, he's a very thoughtful guy
01:14 and he wanted to take his time.
01:15 And obviously he was looking to get the best deal
01:17 he possibly could, which is kind of a hard thing
01:20 for a lot of us to wrap our arms around
01:22 when you're talking about 300 plus million dollars
01:25 that you're going to get.
01:26 But to me, it's a good deal
01:29 from the standpoint of the Celtics.
01:31 And think about this, the Celtics are a team
01:34 whose core is built around two guys
01:37 who are 25, 26 years old.
01:39 And just historically speaking,
01:41 guys usually don't peak until they're like 28, 29 in a league.
01:44 So just imagine, and I think that's,
01:47 if you're the Celtics, why it was so important
01:49 to just try to lock in as many years as possible,
01:51 because this is a guy that if you look at his trajectory
01:54 and you look at just in a grand scheme of things,
01:57 NBA players trajectory, he's going to get better
02:00 in the next couple of years.
02:01 Tatum's going to get better in the next couple of years.
02:04 And it gives them the flexibility to keep him around
02:07 and get a championship because it's not,
02:09 listen, we're not saying anything that's earth shattering
02:13 and just revolutionary when we say that
02:16 it's championship or bus time.
02:18 'Cause you've got more than half a billion dollars
02:22 that you're going to be tied up into two players.
02:25 That's a lot of money, even by NBA standards.
02:28 And you only do that type of investment
02:30 if you're expecting at the end of the season
02:32 to be the last team standing.
02:34 And so to me, this doubles down on the belief
02:37 and the understanding that this team,
02:39 anything short of an NBA title is a failure.
02:42 Every year from this point going forward, it's a failure.
02:44 - I can agree with that.
02:46 I can get right behind that because,
02:48 and also should disappear any illusions
02:51 or questioning that players may have had
02:53 about ownership wanting them
02:56 or the fan base wanting them here.
02:58 We want them here.
03:00 And now they should be free and rich
03:03 to go out and kick some ass and bring home banner 18.
03:06 Let's do it, man.
03:08 I'm psyched.
03:09 I couldn't be happier that this is over
03:11 and that the team can now coalesce around a new core
03:15 and let's see where they could go.
03:18 No more questioning, no more questioning.
03:20 - Yeah, it's a big ownership commitment too, Nick,
03:23 because we questioned for years, wicking the tax.
03:27 Well, here you go, 300 million for Brown next summer,
03:31 less than a year from now,
03:32 Tatum will sign his $300 million extension.
03:36 - Bobby, I wanna push back real quick on this notion
03:39 that WIC won't cut checks.
03:40 'Cause think about this.
03:41 - Well, we know that.
03:42 - Thank you, Sherrod, thank you, Sherrod.
03:44 - He has had teams that were built to win a championship.
03:47 And when I say built,
03:48 I don't mean that they're in the top four or five.
03:50 They're like top two, top three.
03:52 He has cut the check.
03:53 Kevin Garnett got paid, Ray Allen got paid,
03:56 Rondo got paid, Paul Pierce continually got paid.
03:59 It's not like he tries to undercut talented players
04:03 when they have championship,
04:04 not just championship aspirations,
04:06 but championship potential.
04:08 And this team with Junior Brown, with Tatum,
04:11 you bring in Prazingis,
04:12 who if you start looking at the number three option
04:15 around the NBA,
04:16 find many number three options
04:18 that are better than Prazingis.
04:19 They have that now.
04:20 And Malcolm Brogdon is gonna play with,
04:22 I think a little bit more of an edge,
04:23 considering how things, what got wobbly this off season
04:26 for him as far as whether he should be a Celtic,
04:29 should he be traded.
04:30 They're gonna play with an edge.
04:31 They're gonna play with money in their pockets.
04:33 And WIC's willingness to cut the check
04:36 when he knows he has a team
04:37 that is built to win a championship right now,
04:41 I don't understand where the narrative comes
04:44 where he doesn't pay for championship caliber teams.
04:46 He doesn't pay for teams that are pretty good.
04:50 Why should you pay for a Maybach
04:52 when your team is like a mid-size car?
04:56 You're not gonna do that.
04:57 No one would do that.
04:58 But this team, this is a Maybach roster that he's got,
05:01 and he's going to pay Maybach money for that.
05:04 So I hate that narrative
05:07 because it's just not based on anything that's real.
05:10 - But God knows, God help them
05:11 if they lay another stinker this post-season
05:14 because WIC will be back in the locker room again.
05:17 - Blow it up!
05:18 - Blow it up!
05:19 - Well, that's the thing.
05:20 So some people wondered
05:21 whether Jalen was gonna get a haircut here,
05:23 whether they were gonna try to cut this down a little bit.
05:26 All along, I said, he's gonna get this whole super max
05:28 because say down the line, they do look to move him.
05:32 In this new CBA where it's dollar for dollar trade matching,
05:36 him making more money actually helps you
05:39 get the best possible player back
05:41 if it eventually comes to that.
05:42 So he does get the full money here.
05:44 Obviously, that's something he's looking for in this deal.
05:46 Biggest contract in NBA history, by the way,
05:49 until Tatum signs his next summer.
05:51 - Until tomorrow.
05:52 (laughing)
05:54 - When you take a nap and then you wake up,
05:55 he'll be number two or number three or number four.
05:58 - He passes Nikoli Jokic.
06:01 Some people asked him about the trade kicker in here.
06:04 Just to keep it short and brief, 15% probably.
06:09 It's basically an addition to his salary if he's traded.
06:14 So 15% of what he's making now would go year by year.
06:17 But if he's making the max,
06:20 it doesn't have, you can't make more than the max.
06:23 So in the short term, it really doesn't mean a ton.
06:26 Maybe down the line, he's making less than the max.
06:28 Maybe the cap keeps going up.
06:29 And it does give him some semblance of control
06:32 in the later stages of this deal over where he goes
06:35 'cause he could waive that.
06:37 Gives him a little bit of a semblance
06:40 of a no trade clause here, but nothing quite close.
06:42 And of course he couldn't get a no trade clause
06:44 in this deal.
06:46 So it's something that he was able to get out of this.
06:50 Haven't heard any incentives or anything like that
06:52 in this one.
06:53 I'd have to imagine this is fully guaranteed.
06:55 - So like, where would you, how much,
06:57 he could only make more money.
06:58 You're saying built in the salary incentives?
07:01 - Yeah, but it can't be more than the max.
07:02 So like this year--
07:03 - I'm tired of incentives.
07:04 I know that sounds ridiculous,
07:06 but I don't want another season of,
07:08 are they gonna be all NBA?
07:10 Are they, I just want a frigging championship.
07:12 - Yeah, I think it's gonna be full year indeed.
07:14 - If you're all NBA, just play your ass off.
07:17 - Yeah, so Jalen's in a good position here now.
07:22 The Celtics again, one year to this date,
07:24 can't trade Brown.
07:26 So ends up going pretty late in the July.
07:29 That gives him even more protection here.
07:31 If you're wondering another possible reason
07:33 that might've been kicked down the line here.
07:36 Sherrod, I know you're not too long to stay here.
07:39 Any other thoughts on Jalen, this deal,
07:42 what it means for him going forward?
07:43 Do you think this means he'll be here
07:46 for the long haul with this team?
07:48 - I think it puts him in a position where
07:50 something would have to go radically wrong
07:54 with this organization, with his status,
07:57 with his organization for him to leave now.
07:59 They're opening up the wallet
08:00 like they've never opened up the wallet before.
08:02 And in part because they had to.
08:04 He earned that.
08:05 Based upon the rules, the CBA and Supermax
08:08 and things like that.
08:09 I do think he's gonna be a long haul.
08:10 I think he's slowly putting together the kind of platform
08:14 that allows him to have a certain amount of sustainability
08:18 in this community.
08:19 Jalen has not been shy about getting out in the community
08:22 since he's been here.
08:23 He's looking to be a transformative figure.
08:26 Now, before what I'm about to say gets twisted,
08:31 'cause I know it will.
08:33 When I think about just the imprint
08:36 that Bill Russell made off the court,
08:39 we're talking strictly off the court,
08:41 being an agent of change,
08:43 bringing about a lot of social and systemic changes
08:46 because of who he was, what he represented,
08:48 what he was about.
08:49 I see a lot of that same impact in Jalen Brown,
08:53 off the court.
08:54 I do think Jalen Brown, when he's done playing in Boston,
08:57 he's gonna be remembered and revered,
08:59 I think as much as what he did as a player,
09:01 as what he did off the court
09:02 and the lives that he changed off the court.
09:04 And whether that factored into this contract, who knows,
09:07 but it's a bonus, in my opinion,
09:09 if you're the Boston Celtics to have a player
09:11 who you can concern yourself with what he's doing
09:15 on the court, but not worry so much
09:17 about what's happening off the court.
09:18 I don't think we'll worry about seeing Jalen Brown
09:21 on a IG video flashing a weapon.
09:24 I don't think that's something that,
09:26 if you're the Celtics, you worry about,
09:28 or him being involved in any type of,
09:30 really nefarious, scandalous type of situations.
09:33 Is it possible?
09:34 Absolutely, but there's nothing in his background,
09:36 nothing in what he's done in Boston
09:38 that will lead you to believe that would happen.
09:39 In fact, just the opposite of that.
09:41 And so I think there's a lot of value
09:43 when you have guys on your team
09:44 who are good pillars in the community
09:46 and pretty damn good basketball players.
09:48 So that to me, it creates a win-win for Jalen.
09:52 Now, only thing left to do is get the damn chip.
09:55 That's it, just get the damn chip and we're good.
09:57 Yep, I second that one.
10:00 You guys know I moved recently
10:02 and as you can see the walls behind me,
10:03 I've not yet hung anything.
10:05 I've been waiting for this because I got this copy right here.
10:09 Autographed Jalen, a picture that I gotta throw on the wall.
10:15 All right, good day to break it out.
10:16 You should watch the Celtic again, baby.
10:18 Look at that, look at that.
10:20 And he of course--
10:22 Go get on Twitter, assholes.
10:24 (all laughing)
10:27 Nick, you're excited about this.
10:29 I'm excited to move forward, right?
10:31 I'm excited for a year where we're not going
10:34 to have New York Times interviews mid-season
10:38 questioning the fan base and the city.
10:41 I'm excited for them really coming together with chemistry
10:46 and no more questioning whether they are wanted
10:48 and some of the baby stuff.
10:51 Now there's no excuses.
10:52 Jason knows what he's getting.
10:54 Jason knows what he's getting.
10:55 I'll continue in a moment.
10:56 Sherrod, any more closing thoughts?
10:59 You out?
11:00 He's out of here.
11:02 Sherrod--
11:03 I'm out here in a second, but Nick,
11:05 I love the photo, I love the photo.
11:07 I need to get one of those.
11:08 All I got is my damn Jalen bobblehead up here.
11:11 You can't see it.
11:12 (all laughing)
11:12 I need to get a little more Jalen in my life for sure.
11:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:16 See ya, fellas.
11:17 See ya, Sherrod.
11:19 And I'm assuming--
11:19 Wait a second, Bobby.
11:21 To those in the chat saying, "Where's John?
11:23 Where's John?"
11:24 You'll get your John fix tonight.
11:26 The full Garden Report crew--
11:27 He's down in Foxborough.
11:28 Training camp.
11:29 Yeah, he's in Foxborough for Patriots training camp.
11:30 But the full Garden Report crew will be in action tonight.
11:35 I'm just stepping in at a moment's notice
11:37 because Bobby asked me to.
11:39 Ahmet's head's spinning right now.
11:41 He's got Bergeron retiring, Brown.
11:43 Yeah.
11:44 Presser's about to go off.
11:45 It's one of those days for Ahmet.
11:47 The presser gonna be today?
11:49 No, no, Patriots pressers.
11:51 Right, right, right, right, right.
11:52 Yeah, but I do expect that Jalen will, in short order,
11:54 he is here in Boston doing his bridge program
11:56 over at MIT with the kids.
11:59 Of course, he was at a Dorchester court opening
12:02 a couple days ago.
12:03 What kind of flipped me a little bit was that,
12:06 that court appearance that he did.
12:08 It wasn't Celtics sanctioned, it was him on his own.
12:12 And I know Jalen does a lot in the community
12:14 and we don't hear about it 'cause he doesn't talk about it.
12:17 But to see him in the midst of all these pauses
12:20 and contract negotiations, to go downtown
12:23 and be with the kids.
12:25 And you sent me the KG retweet,
12:28 but I'm not surprised about that.
12:29 You could see the chemistry they have there
12:32 between KG and Jalen.
12:33 But that was all I want as a fan is to know the guys
12:38 that we're paying wanna be here.
12:41 Right.
12:42 And they're gonna give it their all.
12:44 Well, this is something me and you kicked around
12:46 'cause Jalen's in limbo here.
12:48 Obviously, the Lilly talks were going on
12:50 and the Celtics were reported to be in on that,
12:52 not necessarily floating Jalen.
12:54 I don't think they shopped Jalen at all this month
12:57 compared to last year when they got in on the KD stuff.
13:00 But we said, "Would you do Lillard?"
13:03 We debated that a couple of times.
13:05 And one of your big things is that,
13:07 Lilly doesn't wanna be here.
13:09 And Brown for some of the interviews last year
13:11 and some of the discontent and I'm sure leveraging
13:13 he did with these interviews,
13:15 always seemed invested here.
13:19 Like in ways-
13:19 Come on, man.
13:20 Where do you say that?
13:22 Just because of the stuff we're talking about here,
13:24 the connection to the college, the stores.
13:26 You don't see a ton of it,
13:27 but I know as well as anybody
13:30 that he doesn't wanna promote a lot about it.
13:31 I'm always reaching out like,
13:32 "Oh, you wanna talk about this?"
13:34 Or, "You wanna cover this or that?"
13:37 My thing is like,
13:39 the cryptic and vague messages in the paper
13:42 don't help anyone.
13:44 They don't help make change.
13:45 They don't help the cause.
13:46 They don't help the team.
13:47 They don't help the fans.
13:48 They don't help anybody.
13:50 So I'm anxious to see,
13:53 and I think maybe last week was the start of it,
13:56 seeing maybe Jalen who has every bit of the personality
14:00 to pick, like Sherrod was putting them in majestic terms,
14:04 putting them next to Mr. Russell.
14:06 But I mean, he has every bit of being able to not replace,
14:11 but sit in for what Marcus is leaving behind
14:15 in the community.
14:16 Jalen can pick up that mantle
14:18 and I'm anxious to see him do that.
14:20 Because yes, the Boston Celtics, Wick Grosbeck,
14:23 and the ownership group have committed
14:25 a massive amount of money to Jalen,
14:28 but so is the fan base.
14:29 I mean, these guys are going, they're paying for tickets,
14:32 and they believe in Jalen,
14:33 and we believe he should get paid this type of money
14:37 because he's earned it.
14:38 - Yeah, and it is-
14:40 - Love us back, baby!
14:42 Love us back, without a check!
14:44 - Yeah, it is.
14:46 And people are gonna be blown away
14:48 by the numbers here on the deal.
14:50 54 million in the first year,
14:53 goes all the way up into the 60s by the end of it.
14:58 It's hefty, and it is remarkable to look back on
15:02 and think about where this guy started.
15:05 Raw talent coming in, the boos.
15:08 - What CEOs make this kind of money?
15:11 - I'd have to pull up some numbers on that.
15:16 I challenge fans, and NBA fans love to do it with CEOs.
15:21 Get all over CEOs.
15:22 Hold your players accountable now.
15:24 We're paying him over a quarter billion dollars.
15:30 Players need to be held accountable.
15:34 And if the coaches aren't gonna do it,
15:35 the fan base sure can.
15:37 But I think today's a day to celebrate, not to be-
15:40 - Yeah, for sure.
15:41 And everyone, I felt like, had universal acclaim.
15:46 For Jalen, across the board here.
15:48 Remember last summer, very few of these fans
15:50 wanted to do the Durant trade.
15:53 Throughout the year, a ton of defense for him.
15:54 But it did change a little bit in the East Finals.
15:57 - Yep. - Given the performance
15:58 he had, given the game seven.
16:00 - I think, Bobby, I think that goes back
16:02 to his interviews in the spring.
16:04 I mean, that was just a boneheaded decision to make.
16:07 And I don't know who was advising him,
16:08 but not to say you can't speak.
16:11 You should be an outspoken athlete.
16:13 But don't speak in the cryptic, vague terms.
16:17 You gotta be detailed when you're talking about this stuff,
16:20 so we can actually affect change.
16:21 But yeah, I think fans were fed up.
16:24 And I think that game seven was a bit,
16:26 if it was an eye-opener to fans
16:28 in the Eastern Conference Finals game seven,
16:30 imagine the eye-opener to Jalen himself
16:33 going back to the locker room after that game,
16:35 having been punked by a lesser talented team.
16:39 - Yeah, and let's kick around, ultimately,
16:42 what this deal's gonna look like in the long term here.
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17:20 - Can we call it a baseball quasi-Renaissance or something?
17:23 - I'm excited!
17:24 - Some people are involved again,
17:27 they're going to games, even though--
17:28 - All they had to do was put the damn clock in
17:30 and get the game moving.
17:31 - That's it, yep.
17:32 - And it cut a half hour off the game.
17:34 - I think they had to acknowledge the issue first.
17:36 Once they acknowledged it, the clock fixed it,
17:39 and get rid of the stick 'em with the pitchers
17:41 and you're good to go.
17:42 (laughing)
17:43 - Yeah, bigger bases, the ball has been in play.
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18:12 Nick, you were gonna jump in there.
18:13 - Yeah, I think we need to address
18:16 who's second and third option.
18:19 Because if I--
18:20 - Great question.
18:21 - One more hysterical fan, Jalen fan,
18:24 being in hysterics because he might be the third option,
18:27 I'm going to bang my head off my desk.
18:29 So answer that, Bobby. - So let's loop these together.
18:32 Yes, because I did some writing about that this past week.
18:35 I think it's the biggest question going into this year
18:38 because everybody looked at poor Zingus coming in and said,
18:41 "Wow, this is gonna be tough to maintain long-term.
18:43 "Lots of money."
18:44 I know poor Zingus took a little pay cut on his extension,
18:47 not enough to really make this less devastating
18:50 in terms of taxes and the second apron and all that.
18:53 But year one, we know these guys are gonna be
18:56 playing together for at least the first year here.
18:59 How are they gonna make that work?
19:00 And I asked Chris Stapps,
19:02 I asked Joe at that opening press conference,
19:06 these are guys who have huge usage percentages.
19:09 Chris Stapps, 27 for his career,
19:12 Jalen right up around 30, Jason right up around 31.
19:15 We know Jason's not sacrificing here, but-
19:18 - Nor should he have to.
19:19 - When that last big three came together, Nick,
19:22 it was all about sacrifice.
19:23 Like everybody had to take a cut somewhere.
19:26 I think we know poor Zingus is gonna be able to do it
19:29 because he chose to come here
19:30 and wants to win and all the rest.
19:33 How's Jalen gonna do it?
19:34 - He had a ton of shots last year.
19:36 He scored a ton last year.
19:38 He got this contract, so obviously he's taking care of that.
19:40 - I'm telling you how he's gonna do it.
19:41 Do it in the locker room,
19:43 do it on the microphone after the games,
19:45 do it with the media, do it as a leader example of example.
19:50 Don't start with cryptic nonsense, really be,
19:55 embrace Boston.
19:56 If they do, if he does, he'll have success here
20:00 because they'll have the chemistry
20:02 that I think is missing at times.
20:06 Work on his dribbling, that could be his contribution.
20:09 - Yes, as well as I think shooting corner threes again
20:12 is gonna be a big deal for him
20:13 'cause he was so good at them.
20:14 I was pulling up the numbers from 2020
20:16 and I know it's kinda,
20:18 it has a negative perception staying in the corner,
20:20 but somebody has to do it and Grant did it so well.
20:24 Guys who were great in that corner,
20:27 you wanna see them taking a lot of threes in that position.
20:29 He shot 48% from three on those corner threes in 2020,
20:33 barely took any last year.
20:34 Poizengis doesn't take any, Grant's gone as we talked about.
20:37 So I think on the court,
20:39 that's gonna be the big one for him.
20:40 And he has kinda complained
20:42 about being stuck in the corner at times,
20:43 but again, someone has to do it.
20:45 - I'm gonna go a step further.
20:48 Jalen can recommit himself
20:50 to the defensive end of the court.
20:51 - That's a big one.
20:53 - That's what he needs to do.
20:54 And if he could, I mean, I'm being a bit silly
20:56 with the no interview stuff.
20:59 What really he could do is decision-making on the fly
21:03 and recommit to defense, man.
21:06 I mean, we need it now.
21:07 The Celtics need defensive mindset now.
21:10 - Yeah, and I'm optimistic about the style
21:12 they're gonna be playing on this end this year.
21:14 I obviously went on Celtics beat the other day,
21:17 just because I love the personnel
21:18 that they have to do it this year.
21:20 And I obviously was not a fan of Joe's coaching style
21:22 last year for a lot of reasons,
21:24 but Porzingis makes a ton of sense
21:26 on the defensive end for them,
21:27 'cause he can stay back at the basket.
21:30 Guys can get more aggressive on the perimeter.
21:32 And I think they're gonna switch to us this year,
21:34 and that's gonna benefit Jalen more than anybody,
21:36 because he can just stick to his matchup.
21:39 Earlier in his career, he was so great defensively
21:41 when he could just focus on one guy.
21:44 And I think that is gonna benefit him greatly.
21:46 The switching was tough for him.
21:48 He got lost.
21:48 There was a lot of things he had to consider out there.
21:50 And I think sometimes he got caught overanalyzing stuff
21:53 and he'd get lost,
21:54 'cause he had a rough few defensive years here
21:56 over the past few seasons.
21:58 And you're right,
21:59 he needs to get back to being that impact defender,
22:01 'cause he has all the tools to do it.
22:02 - Yeah, it's an effort thing.
22:04 And a clear focus, effort and focus.
22:06 I think less style, but style-wise, yeah, too.
22:10 I mean, but how much did they put?
22:11 They didn't do that stifling switching defense last year.
22:15 - No.
22:16 - Only at spots, and Jalen still was lost on defense.
22:20 So I think those are the things he's gotta commit to.
22:23 But all in all, I mean, I can't think of a better,
22:26 with more proof of performance duo in the league,
22:31 maybe big three.
22:32 I mean, I'm not a poor Zingas guy yet,
22:34 but that's based on health, right?
22:38 And also how Missoula's gonna play him.
22:40 If Missoula's going to put him out at the three-point line
22:43 and never post him up,
22:45 I'm gonna have to flip off,
22:46 switch it off until the playoffs.
22:48 I'm not gonna be able to watch that terroristic basketball
22:51 when they're losing and missing everything.
22:53 You know, when they're hitting, it's beautiful.
22:55 But man, when they're losing, it's bad.
22:57 So if they're gonna post him up, let him play mid,
22:59 and let that, like old school basketball,
23:01 open up your perimeter a little bit,
23:03 I think they'll do really well,
23:04 because Jason can shoot, Brogdon can shoot, Jalen can shoot.
23:09 It should spread the floor more, even.
23:12 - Yeah, and he's gonna benefit too
23:14 from the amount of space that they have here.
23:16 Last year, he played great inside the arc.
23:20 The threes, weirdly missing from him.
23:22 I don't know what went on with his shot last year.
23:24 Free throws, a struggle again for him,
23:26 and some key spots too.
23:28 So this is the thing about Jalen,
23:29 like there was so much good last year.
23:31 Had the year of his career, took huge steps offensively
23:34 to becoming one of the better scorers in this league, period.
23:38 But you're right, the passing leaves stuff to be desired.
23:41 The defense, especially.
23:43 Rough year for him on that end,
23:45 on a team that really took a step back in that regard.
23:47 And so this is the stuff people are gonna look at here.
23:50 50 million a year. - And it's all,
23:52 Bobby, it's okay to look at it and be complimentive,
23:56 or to be fair and critical.
23:59 Fans are supposed to be passionate,
24:02 which means you're not always going to agree.
24:04 But just because you say Jalen has to play better defense,
24:07 doesn't mean you're gonna run him out of town
24:09 and you hate Jalen.
24:10 As much as I go at it on Twitter,
24:14 I'll be honest with you, Bobby,
24:16 75% of that is just to tweak the green teamers.
24:18 I don't even believe half of what I'm saying.
24:20 And I usually retract it by the end of the conversation
24:23 because they're so spastic.
24:25 I'm gonna call somebody out right now in this chat room
24:27 that just keeps calling Jalen jealous.
24:29 I mean, I think that's asinine.
24:31 I don't think Jalen is jealous.
24:33 That's silly.
24:34 What does he have to be jealous of?
24:35 He's making the most money on the team.
24:38 - Well, do you think that'll calm his uneasiness
24:42 with the situation here?
24:43 'Cause he did voice a lot of it last year.
24:45 We heard it all.
24:46 You mentioned it at the interviews, he didn't love them.
24:48 - It must.
24:49 - Even commentary like at the All-Star game.
24:52 And he was an All-Star last year,
24:54 but saying, yeah, I have to sacrifice a lot to be here.
24:56 It's okay.
24:57 You know, it's great to win in Boston
24:59 and sacrifice is a part of that,
25:00 but I'm sacrificing a lot here.
25:02 Like he always made it known
25:04 that he's doing less than his potential here
25:07 just to help this team win.
25:09 - You know, someone just said my emotional IQ
25:12 is lacking today.
25:13 Yeah, I'm looking at you, Boston Beta.
25:16 But yeah, I mean, that all goes in line
25:18 with the interview, Bobby.
25:19 I mean, you just, there's gotta be times where,
25:23 there's gotta be times where you're selective
25:25 on what you're getting out there.
25:28 I certainly don't think it helped them get more touches
25:30 or sacrifice less.
25:32 I think everybody on the team sacrifices
25:34 at one time or another.
25:35 You know, I mean, I don't know why there is such a,
25:41 like a versus within our own team in the fan base,
25:45 like the Jalen guys or the Jason guys.
25:46 Like, why can't we just like both of them
25:49 and, you know, support them both?
25:51 So I think it's okay for fans to say,
25:55 "Yo, dude, you're making more money now than I will ever,
25:57 me and my whole family will ever make in our entire lives.
26:00 You're making it this year."
26:02 So, you know, I don't know how much you're sacrificing, bro.
26:06 Go win a championship.
26:08 Let's do it.
26:09 Let's effing go.
26:11 - How good do you feel about that now
26:13 with all the moves they've made?
26:15 Jalen secured, Korzingis in here,
26:17 Brogdon here for now, I guess.
26:20 Smart gone.
26:21 That's a big one.
26:22 - That's a big one, man.
26:23 I mean, I can't give you any feeling whatsoever
26:27 until I see what the game plan of Missoula's
26:31 and mindset and maturity level of our coach is going to be.
26:34 I think that's number one.
26:35 Number two is going to be,
26:37 are they gonna have any balls at all?
26:39 Because so far they've not proven that they...
26:42 I keep going back to the Grant-Jimmy Butler situation.
26:46 I mean, not one Celtic stuck up for Grant
26:51 with Jimmy in his face.
26:52 And then after the fact doubled down
26:53 and Jalen was one of them, no comment.
26:55 That's the stuff that these guys-
26:58 - You know what else Jalen said
26:59 that I couldn't stand during that series?
27:01 Grant had just had a great game.
27:04 I forget what game it was.
27:05 He came in, hit a bunch of threes, defended.
27:07 I think it was in Miami.
27:09 And I think I might've asked,
27:10 or someone asked about Grant and the game he had.
27:13 And he was like, "Yeah, Grant can be
27:16 "a really effective player when his head's screwed on right."
27:19 - Very demeaning.
27:20 It was demeaning.
27:21 - He wouldn't just give him credit for the game.
27:23 He's like, "Yeah, when this guy stays in line
27:25 "and plays his role, he's awesome."
27:29 - And I mean, well, I guess to a certain degree,
27:31 you have to deal with it.
27:32 I did back in the day, but we're not live on camera.
27:36 We are right now, but we're not Jalen Brown, right?
27:38 So sometimes I think you say things
27:40 and then you're like, "Oh, did I say that?"
27:42 You know what I mean?
27:43 Especially after an emotional game.
27:44 And I hope that's the case.
27:46 But again, I worry about a roster with no smart,
27:51 no Grant, no guts, right?
27:55 So until somebody steps up and shows that they have
27:59 the balls, the guts of a champion,
28:02 and Missoula shows that he's got to do some growing up, bro.
28:06 I don't care.
28:07 - I do want to talk about the coaching.
28:09 I want to talk about the leadership first.
28:10 - Before you move on, I would not be surprised,
28:15 and I think a lot of people are saying this,
28:17 is saying, "Casella's the coach by the end of the year."
28:19 I wouldn't take a second word of this nonsense.
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29:32 Cassell, I'm glad you brought him up.
29:34 I think his addition's gonna be a big deal here.
29:37 They're obviously asking the players,
29:39 Brown and Tatum specifically,
29:40 to step up with SMARK on as the leaders on this team.
29:42 I think Brad said as such.
29:45 But also, they have to support Joe,
29:47 keep pushing him to grow as the head coach here.
29:50 And so they've brought in a bunch of other coaches,
29:53 namely Sam Cassell, to support him.
29:56 And I thought, I wanna get to your take there,
29:58 'cause I find that very interesting.
30:00 But I talked to Sam in Vegas a couple of times.
30:02 He was out and about all over the place out there.
30:06 And he said, he had this line.
30:09 I don't have the exact quote in front of me,
30:12 but he wants the team to start enjoying themselves more,
30:16 taking that pressure off themselves,
30:19 which I think he saw a lot of through that series.
30:22 Obviously, he was coaching on the other side
30:23 in the Philadelphia series.
30:25 But he said something specifically about,
30:28 you don't have to change the world.
30:30 You don't have to solve all the problems in the world.
30:32 The only thing that matters for us
30:34 is winning the championship this year.
30:37 And he said, that's what I'm gonna make sure
30:39 these guys care about.
30:40 I'm gonna make sure they know what it's like
30:42 to be a champion in Boston,
30:44 and just how that will change your life.
30:46 - Look how happy I am.
30:48 - It seemed like he was talking specifically to Jalen.
30:51 - No, I'm just kidding.
30:52 He told you Jalen, all right.
30:54 - 'Cause I think Jalen's someone who carries a lot of weight
30:57 in terms of the team.
30:57 - He does everything as he does.
30:59 - But also off the court,
31:00 I think we see all the stuff he's trying to accomplish here.
31:03 And we love it.
31:04 It's amazing.
31:06 It's added to his legacy,
31:07 and I think just adds this new layer
31:09 to why he need to stay a Celtic,
31:11 'cause all that stuff's obviously crucial.
31:14 But I think Cassell's trying to simplify
31:17 the game for Jalen
31:19 in a way that's gonna make it easier for him,
31:21 and not have this spiral effect on him
31:24 when things seem to go wrong here.
31:26 'Cause that game seven was hard to watch, Nick.
31:28 Everything went wrong, and it just kept going wrong,
31:31 and he couldn't pull himself out of it.
31:33 So, I think a lot of the commentary
31:35 in terms of Cassell and what he wanted to bring to this team
31:37 and easing the pressure on this group related to Jalen.
31:40 - In the chat room, I agree with you on that.
31:44 In the chat room, and of course we're only speculating,
31:47 but in the chat room, they're saying,
31:49 well, why don't you give Joe a chance
31:51 because he now finally has his staff?
31:54 And I think that's absolutely my point.
31:56 This is not his staff.
31:58 I mean, the Celtics brass hired these guys.
32:01 Usually you hire a coach who comes in with the staff.
32:04 Cassell is a Celtics guy, through and through.
32:09 Who else did they bring in?
32:11 Lee, what's his name?
32:12 - Charles Lee from the Bucks.
32:13 - Charles Lee.
32:14 - A champion.
32:15 - But that was a Brad hire.
32:17 I don't know anybody-- - Joe Pesci?
32:20 - That's a Celtics hire.
32:21 Isn't that a Brad hire?
32:22 - Probably, yeah.
32:23 - Yeah, so where's the Joe hires, guys?
32:26 So everybody is saying, wait for Joe to get his team,
32:28 he's got his team.
32:30 Listen, Joe just needs to grow up.
32:33 I know that sounds silly, but that's what he needs.
32:35 He needs to go out and treat the media
32:38 the way that he wants to be treated
32:40 and set an example for his players and call timeouts
32:44 and stop being stubborn and stepping on his own foot.
32:47 That's really what I think.
32:48 But if you look at it through last year, Bobby,
32:51 a lot, Marcus was a lot of this,
32:55 the placating or the patronizing of Joe in pressers.
32:59 You know, I'm a big presser guy, you know that.
33:01 I watch the pressers more than I watch the games even.
33:03 And the patronizing, and that shows that that probably
33:08 kind of ekes through to everyone on the team, I would think.
33:14 So I think there's a buddy-buddy type relationship there
33:17 that Joe really has to separate himself
33:19 and prove that he can do it.
33:21 And let me just explain to everyone, Nick, what I'm like,
33:25 and Bobby could attest to this.
33:27 I am a number one to say I'm wrong when I'm wrong,
33:30 and I hope I'm wrong.
33:31 I wanna see Joe Mazzulla do well.
33:33 I don't wanna see him suck.
33:35 I wanna see him do well.
33:36 But if he doesn't, eh, we got Sam Cassell.
33:38 So I'm happy.
33:39 That's the point.
33:40 - I think Lee's the top assistant,
33:43 so maybe he would be in line there.
33:44 - Maybe, but I mean, the fans would love Sam for sure.
33:47 Is Lee the first assistant?
33:48 - I think he is, yeah.
33:49 And that's the seat he had in Milwaukee,
33:52 came over to take the same seat here.
33:54 Obviously, Boone and Holzer got fired,
33:56 but I love the staff.
33:57 And that's something that I think John rolls his eyes at.
34:00 - Yeah, no, I think it's important.
34:01 - I do think it's important
34:03 because we saw where it limited them last year.
34:05 And of course, as Dart Adams was talking about
34:07 on our last episode, you had a suspicion
34:10 that the EMA guys weren't thrilled about this.
34:13 And what happens at the end of the year
34:14 with Joe becoming head coach?
34:17 They all shoot out the door
34:18 and they're all back with the EMA.
34:19 - I mean, that's telling.
34:20 - Yeah, so they had to reshape things.
34:22 I think they all played their part to help him last year,
34:26 but at the end of the day, it wasn't his staff.
34:29 And I do think that's something
34:30 that's gonna be different this year.
34:31 - If for nothing less,
34:32 even if they're not his staff right now,
34:34 he's at least involved from the very beginning.
34:39 So he's got a stamp on that.
34:40 So it gives him more of a,
34:42 but Joe just has to, and I see a little bit of it.
34:46 I mean, I saw his pressure at Summer League.
34:47 I saw his pressure at Porzingis.
34:49 I mean, he seems like he's a little bit,
34:50 but there were times last year, Bobby,
34:52 where he had fans scratching their heads,
34:54 Joe as much as the players, just his reactions and whatnot.
34:58 By the way, while we're celebrating
35:00 Jalen remaining a Celtic, man,
35:02 I just wanna send prayers to LeBron James' family for sure.
35:06 I mean, I don't wanna get into a whole discussion about it,
35:09 but I think it's pressing to know that,
35:11 you know, Bronny, what happened,
35:13 you know what I mean, when you have cardiac arrest,
35:14 I mean, we as Celtics fans can absolutely,
35:18 we all choke when we hear that
35:20 because of Bias and Reggie Lewis.
35:22 God, my prayers are with LeBron,
35:25 his wife, his kids, his whole family.
35:28 - Yeah, that was awful to hear this morning.
35:32 - Awful. - Yeah.
35:33 - Awful way to start the day.
35:35 - Yeah, and it sounds like he's out of the ICU,
35:37 stable condition, so it sounds like he's gonna be all right.
35:40 Got immediate care at USC there.
35:43 He's about to start his first season at USC.
35:46 So hopefully that's still able to happen here.
35:48 And of course, full recovery.
35:49 I know you were gonna get out of here in just a minute, Nick,
35:53 but I just think to wrap everything we talked about here,
35:57 it's just a huge weight off everybody's shoulders.
36:01 He doesn't have to go into this year
36:03 shooting for that All-NBA.
36:05 There's no free agency looming ahead now,
36:07 which would have been awful.
36:09 There was no way you could have gone into this year
36:10 without doing that.
36:12 And I think for now, and I'd say this year,
36:18 and I have to think he'll be back next year as well,
36:20 for certain, and who knows?
36:22 They need to live up to expectations this year.
36:24 If they win a championship,
36:26 I think you could be looking at it and saying,
36:27 all right, he's here for the long, long haul.
36:30 - Jaylen, you're talking about.
36:31 - Like he's gonna be the core going into the future, yeah.
36:33 - I think for nothing, Brad's committed to these guys.
36:36 I mean, he's proven it.
36:37 But they had, like you said at the start,
36:38 they had to pay him this money now, correct?
36:40 - Yeah, they had to.
36:41 And it gives you that year where you can't trade him.
36:43 So that's the undisputable time
36:46 that you're gonna have him here.
36:48 It stinks, Nick, but in the Samoan NBA,
36:50 five years, six years, including this year,
36:53 doesn't mean six years in a Celtics uniform.
36:56 So I don't think anybody's looking at this and saying,
36:58 Jaylen's still gonna be here in 20, 30 years, whatever.
37:01 - Not after Marcus, not after the Marcus.
37:03 I mean, I don't think anybody thought Marcus, whatever.
37:04 - Things can change.
37:05 And you know what?
37:06 A big part of that Porzingis deal was the flexibility.
37:09 They're gonna have a lot of different ways
37:11 to go into the future.
37:13 They're adding a lot of salary to their roster,
37:16 which you love from Wick's perspective.
37:17 And they have a lot of different directions
37:19 that they can go in, depending on what happens here.
37:21 And overall, you gotta like what they did this off season.
37:25 - Yeah, before you wrap, well, I don't know.
37:27 They got, dude, that band's just light, man.
37:29 - It's light.
37:30 - It's light, I mean, but, I mean, listen,
37:33 the one thing that Celtics fans can always take comfort in,
37:36 and I do as an old school, you know, boomer,
37:40 you know, grandpa fan, is the fact that our stars,
37:44 Jalen and Jason, want to play basketball.
37:47 They don't want to be load management.
37:50 They don't wanna take,
37:51 Jason has to be forced to sit.
37:55 So yes, we need a bench.
37:57 We need, the Celtics need to stay healthy.
38:00 But these guys aren't afraid to put in big minutes
38:02 if they have to.
38:03 And that's one thing in today's NBA
38:05 that we all gotta go like, oh man,
38:06 we are lucky to have Jalen, who has an, you know,
38:10 it gets injured here and there,
38:11 but never just sits out and Jason just won't sit.
38:14 And I wanna close out with one thing, Bobby,
38:16 about Sam Cassell.
38:17 You mentioned that, it kind of hit me here
38:20 because from the--
38:22 - You mentioned Max.
38:24 - Did he?
38:25 Yeah, he did, didn't he?
38:26 He has Max, he has Max.
38:27 - Koozie and Max, and all the rest,
38:28 he threw a bunch of names out there.
38:29 - You know, you would say that about Sam,
38:32 and I think about it,
38:34 I don't wanna call them exit interviews
38:35 because whatever PR did to exit interviews,
38:38 what that was not, we don't do exit interviews anymore.
38:41 So whatever, the elimination night after game seven,
38:44 from that point to Brad's post-season press conference
38:49 to Cassell, I think that might be
38:52 the first mention of championship.
38:53 - Right.
38:56 - Missoula, not a word.
38:58 Not a play, I mean, Marcus was going back
39:00 and looking at film as if they were playing another day.
39:02 (laughing)
39:03 You know, Joe has not said, what is this?
39:06 - There you go.
39:07 That's the only goal, Cassell.
39:10 - That's the tradition in Boston.
39:11 See, now these are the things,
39:13 and I wanna, look at Maxwell, Cornbread gets a,
39:16 I wanna say to fans out there,
39:18 the younger fans that pick on me,
39:20 the old guys, whether they mean it or not,
39:23 this is all we wanna hear.
39:24 That's the tradition in Boston, win the championship,
39:27 playing for guys who won previously for us,
39:29 Garnett, Pierce, Russell, Koozie, Maxwell,
39:32 the history goes on, it's about them.
39:34 That's the thing that our guys have to understand.
39:37 It's a pride thing.
39:39 That will get us banner 18.
39:42 It's a great way to close out.
39:43 - I will, yeah. - That attitude.
39:45 - That was a great interview.
39:46 That's available up on Steel N S Media,
39:48 Cassell's first interview as a Celtics assistant.
39:51 I love that edition.
39:53 I like the steel-- - What time are you guys back?
39:55 What time are you guys back tonight, Bobby?
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40:07 I gotta say off the top, Jimmy,
40:09 I don't think, throwed with this deal.
40:11 He never loved the idea of paying Jalen this much,
40:13 which I get the pause.
40:15 - That'll be fun. - If there's not gonna be
40:16 improvement in the future.
40:17 John, I don't know.
40:19 I'm very interested to see. - Yeah.
40:20 Here's what I think.
40:21 I think John's gonna say,
40:23 listen, you had no choice.
40:24 You had to do it, but he will not like committing to Jalen
40:29 for the full five years or whatever,
40:32 which I don't really see why you have to.
40:34 There's no no trade clause, right?
40:35 I guess 'cause there's no option at the end or something.
40:37 I don't know.
40:38 - There's no no trade clause.
40:40 There's no player option in the 50 year.
40:43 So you have six years of control of Jalen Brown now,
40:47 which is very valuable.
40:48 - Don't let him hear you say that.
40:49 How about partnership with Jalen Brown?
40:52 Let's stay on the right page for Jalen to be happy.
40:56 All your partnership, not ownership, not management.
41:00 - Yeah, and that's why these six year deals
41:04 aren't quite six year deals.
41:05 They'll work together.
41:06 Something needs to change down the line,
41:09 but of course no trade clause.
41:10 So at least keep that control.
41:12 There's a trade kicker.
41:13 I'll get into that when you get out of here, Nick,
41:15 and explain that to everybody.
41:17 - Everybody, get your questions for Bobby
41:19 because he loves talking to you.
41:20 - If you got any questions, yeah,
41:22 we'll close it out here with a little Q&A before this.
41:24 - This was fun, but I gotta go make the donuts, Bobby.
41:26 No one's gonna get that old pun
41:28 from Mr. Donut commercials.
41:30 I gotta go to work.
41:31 - All right.
41:32 - So you guys, I gotta sell some ads.
41:34 All right, I'm outta here.
41:34 - Let's do it.
41:35 I'm gonna sell some of this bull here.
41:37 - Banner18, Jalen.
41:39 All right.
41:40 Stay off my back on Twitter.
41:42 Late.
41:42 - All right, appreciate it, Nick.
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43:20 All right, let's wrap it, all the details here,
43:25 what we know.
43:25 Five years.
43:28 So, as Bobby Marks drew up here on Twitter,
43:32 a little bit of a cap bump.
43:34 So he ends up getting over $50 million
43:37 in his first year here.
43:38 That's gonna set the tone for this deal.
43:41 With 52 million in 2025.
43:46 So this starts the season after this season.
43:50 Jalen still signed at 30 million this year.
43:54 All NBA gave him a little boost on that last year.
43:57 I don't believe there are incentives in here.
43:59 I think there's a fully guaranteed $304 million contract
44:03 for Jalen Brown, which guarantees him the max salary.
44:08 And through 2029, the Celtics have team control
44:13 with these 8% raises, 56 million in 2026,
44:17 60 million in 2027, 64 million in 2028,
44:22 69 million in 2029.
44:25 I know that's gonna blow some people out of their chair.
44:28 Again, the whole reason I said that they're not gonna try
44:32 to make him do a haircut, they're not gonna try
44:34 to save a little bit of tax money,
44:36 they're not gonna try to cut 20 million off this deal
44:39 or negotiate it down, is because in this new CBA,
44:43 where if you're over that second apron line,
44:46 which this team will be, with Porzingis's extension
44:49 starting next year at 30 million, Jalen starting,
44:52 Tatum still has one year left before his player option,
44:55 so he can extend next summer to start his deal in 2026.
45:00 But you're inevitably gonna be over that tax line next year.
45:05 So, what's that mean?
45:09 You have to trade in trades dollar for dollar.
45:13 They used to be 120% matching,
45:15 you used to have a little bit of wiggle room
45:16 when you were doing your trade machines.
45:19 Not anymore, it's gotta be dollar for dollar.
45:23 So, if you were gonna trade Jalen down the line,
45:27 and you wanna get the best possible player back,
45:31 you know, brainstorm whoever you want to here,
45:37 they're making super max money too.
45:39 So, into the future, guys who are making super maxes
45:44 in the future, guys who are currently on those deals,
45:50 more specifically, it's gotta be dollar for dollar.
45:53 So, you'd inevitably, if it comes to this,
45:56 wanna trade Brown for a star,
45:59 he needs to make that much money.
46:00 So, they were never gonna push him for less here.
46:03 Number two, no player option.
46:07 Obviously, a win for the Celtics.
46:09 More time if they wanna keep him long-term
46:13 in a Celtics uniform, under team control,
46:15 less leverage for him to ask out in the middle of this deal,
46:19 and I do think this is a big reason
46:21 that this extended out the same way it did,
46:23 was the leverage when it came to team control
46:26 over the long run here.
46:27 I think a little bit of distrust emerged
46:30 in that Kevin Durant trade saga last year.
46:34 All the commentary this year about Jalen's future,
46:37 well, now they have him for six years.
46:40 Much harder if you're Jalen to push out of that deal
46:43 anytime soon, I'd say anywhere within
46:46 the next three to four years here.
46:48 It would be very difficult for Brown
46:49 to successfully ask out of this contract.
46:52 On the other hand, from Brown's perspective,
46:56 this team wants to move me,
46:58 opportunities arise down the line,
47:01 and I'm the name that's being floated as I often am here.
47:04 I can't get a no trade clause, not allowed in an extension,
47:09 if you didn't have one previously.
47:11 So, what's the next best bet here?
47:13 I can't get that player option,
47:15 that gives me a little bit more leverage
47:17 if the team wants to trade me somewhere else,
47:19 I can say, oh, I only have two years left here
47:22 with this next team,
47:23 and then I can opt out of my player option,
47:25 head back into free agency in 2028.
47:27 Well, not anymore.
47:33 So, what's his leverage in a trade deal down the line here?
47:38 Best he could get was the trade kicker,
47:40 which I think comes out to 15%.
47:43 That's the max he could have gotten.
47:47 And what that basically does is pay him 15%
47:52 on top of his contract from the Celtics
47:55 if they were to trade him,
47:57 and of course, that'll go on his salary sheet
48:00 and all the rest.
48:01 But the key point is here,
48:02 and this is why I don't think this is as massive
48:06 of a win for Brown as it probably looks on paper,
48:09 but it's something that he can utilize into the future.
48:12 A trade kicker just goes in the trash.
48:17 If you're making max money.
48:18 So, this year, or starting next year,
48:25 Celtics trade Brown, not saying they're going to,
48:30 but there's no trade kicker.
48:33 He's making the max money.
48:34 He's making the super max.
48:36 So, it just goes in the trash.
48:38 You can't make more than the NBA max at that point.
48:41 Now, of course, the cap goes up a little bit each year.
48:45 The salary also goes up a little bit each year.
48:48 So, I think for the first couple of years
48:50 of this deal at least,
48:51 that trade kicker doesn't really mean anything.
48:54 And in the end, it might not mean anything anyway.
48:56 Say you get down the line last year,
48:58 this deal, that trade kicker's able to sprinkle
49:01 a little money on top of this,
49:02 make it tough to get a deal done.
49:05 Say the other team, they're close to that second tax line,
49:07 or there's just some sort of salary issue here,
49:11 maybe the salary matching at that juncture
49:13 that prevents a deal from getting done.
49:15 Jalen has the ability at that point
49:18 to waive the trade kicker,
49:20 push a deal through to somewhere he would want to go,
49:24 prevent a deal from going through maybe
49:27 to somewhere he doesn't want to go.
49:28 It's not quite a no trade clause.
49:30 And again, if you're making super max money like this,
49:33 I really think it's such a narrow gap,
49:36 even in the later stages of this deal,
49:39 of being able to put on money
49:41 on top of the money he's already making here.
49:44 So the trade kicker, it's nice,
49:46 but I do think the Celtics won here
49:48 in terms of getting no player option.
49:51 And the trade kicker really doesn't mean a ton,
49:53 especially in the short term.
49:54 Down the line, it might end up being a big piece
49:57 he can use to leverage where he wants to go
50:00 if this thing does break down down the line.
50:02 But for now, I think all you can say here
50:05 is that the Celtics and Browns set themselves up nicely
50:08 to play through this year
50:09 without any trade rumors hanging over his head,
50:12 play into most of next summer now,
50:14 because one year to the day he signs this,
50:16 he cannot be traded.
50:18 So write down on your calendar, July 25th, 2024,
50:23 that's gonna be the trade date for Jalen,
50:26 where he's eligible to be traded again.
50:28 But even beyond that,
50:30 if they take care of business this year,
50:32 if they're right within reach of a championship
50:35 or even win a championship,
50:38 this sets up Tatum, Brown,
50:40 those two to play together into the distant future.
50:42 Now, the money's ginormous, the tax implications, massive.
50:46 By the end of this deal,
50:47 Celtics could be paying $5 on the dollar in tax.
50:51 And again, no player option here for Jalen.
50:57 That's where things get interesting.
51:01 With Borzinga signed here for a couple years,
51:03 Brown, Tatum starting in 2026
51:06 is gonna be making this kind of money,
51:08 or 2025 or 2026, yeah,
51:12 will be the first year of his Supermax, 2025 for Jalen.
51:16 So they do have a little runway up to this roster costing
51:19 an exorbitant amount of money,
51:21 and Borzinga's did them a little bit of a solid too
51:23 in taking a pay cut.
51:24 But there will be questions down the line.
51:28 Celtics just kicked them forward into the future
51:30 and now can focus for at least,
51:32 I think the next two years here
51:34 on winning that championship around these three players,
51:39 Derek White, Al Horford in the late stages of his career,
51:43 Robert Williams is some real big man depth at that position
51:48 alongside some of the free agent additions
51:50 they brought in as well this summer.
51:52 And I don't think this team's necessarily done.
51:55 Open roster spot, does Blake come back?
51:58 I still think that's a question that's up in the air.
52:01 Three non-guaranteed contracts,
52:03 Luke Cornett, Justin Champagny,
52:06 and Delano Banton also non-guaranteed
52:10 in that first year as well, I think just 200,000.
52:12 So there's some real room for competition in the camp.
52:16 Celtics have a trade exception as well,
52:20 and just around 6 million or so for Grant Williams,
52:23 but it's a piece if opportunity arises here.
52:26 It feels like the NBA is kind of stuck
52:28 around these James Harden and Damian Lilley trade requests.
52:31 Celtics, of course, probably out of the running
52:33 on Lilley at this point with Brown signed long-term.
52:37 I think it would have taken him to get in on that.
52:40 And of course, the salary is just way too big
52:42 to add to this mix now long-term.
52:44 So I would say this means they're out on Lilley.
52:48 Brown here long-term,
52:49 he will have a press conference any day, I'm sure.
52:53 And we'll be back tonight talking it with the full crew.
52:56 Stay tuned for the alert, subscribe to the channel.
53:00 You'll get an alert right when we schedule this show.
53:04 We'll all be back tonight talking about this,
53:05 kicking it around, debating it.
53:07 Some more perspectives, I think Nick and I
53:10 both generally like this deal.
53:11 I think you're gonna hear from a few guys
53:12 who don't like it as much tonight, which I understand.
53:15 I had some pause about this too,
53:17 and I was willing to consider moving on from Brown
53:20 and the right deal arose, but on a one-year deal,
53:23 it really didn't make sense here.
53:24 And this became the only option for both sides.
53:26 Took some negotiation, but they, in the end,
53:30 say no player option for Jalen.
53:32 I think that's a big win for Boston.
53:34 And for Brown, 304 million, a massive win.
53:38 Having to play for all NBA last year, gets it done,
53:42 makes the team and substantially boosts his financial future.
53:47 The highest paid player in NBA history now, Jalen Brown.
53:52 Congrats to him, congrats to the Celtics
53:54 keeping this together.
53:55 And this puts us in a little bit of a vacation territory now.
54:00 In the meantime, Patriots camp getting started.
54:03 I'm sure they'll have some reaction
54:05 over on Patriots Press Pass.
54:08 We'll have plenty of reaction to this.
54:10 Patrice Bergeron retiring today.
54:12 Of course, we have a Bruins channel as well.
54:15 Head over there for a reaction to that
54:17 from Evan Marinovsky and all the rest.
54:19 And we'll stay tuned on the Celtics front here.
54:24 Again, stay tuned any day now for a press conference.
54:27 I'd have to imagine that they're gonna really hype this up
54:30 and get Jalen out here talking about
54:32 how he's excited to be a Celtic long term.
54:34 In the meantime, I'm Bobby Manning.
54:37 This has been the Garn Report Breaking News Edition.
54:39 Jalen Brown, five year, 304 million.
54:43 Supermax Extension keeps him in Boston
54:46 through 2029 on paper.
54:49 Trade kicker included.
54:52 No player option, no incentives, fully guaranteed.
54:57 Jalen Brown extended here this afternoon.
55:00 I'll talk to you guys later tonight.
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