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00:00 [Music]
00:05 In Ivory Coast, disabled people want the electoral authority to take into account their needs
00:10 to participate in the upcoming electoral process.
00:13 They want to exercise their civil rights in this process.
00:17 To talk about this, we welcome on this set, Kone Yakuba,
00:22 President of the Board of Directors of the Coordination of Disabled People's Associations of Ivory Coast.
00:27 Welcome, Mr. Kone.
00:29 Thank you.
00:30 So, tell us about the Coordination of Disabled People's Associations of Ivory Coast.
00:35 Thank you.
00:36 First of all, I would like to thank the Director of CETINFO for giving us the opportunity to talk about the issue of disability,
00:41 which is very important in this topic.
00:44 To talk about the Coordination,
00:46 the Coordination is a confederation of organizations of disabled people
00:50 that fights for the well-being of disabled people in Ivory Coast.
00:54 We are represented throughout the territory.
00:57 We work in coordination with an executive board to implement our projects.
01:03 We have been in existence since 2011.
01:08 Very good.
01:09 So, today you have a fight.
01:11 It is the participation of disabled people in the upcoming elections.
01:17 What do these elections represent for you?
01:21 First of all, we would like to say that the participation of disabled people in local government is an exceptional way to include disabled people.
01:33 Today, these upcoming elections are local elections, not local elections, not local governments.
01:40 It is important for us that disabled people can participate.
01:43 We think that if disabled people are included in these elections, it will raise the question of the concern of these governors.
01:53 Because today, everything is decided at the local level with the law of decentralization,
01:57 which means that today we have governors of autonomous districts, regions, mayors.
02:04 And if these mayors are directly in contact with disabled people,
02:07 the inclusion of these people will allow us to better understand the situation of disabled people in Ivory Coast.
02:14 What are the political barriers to the participation of disabled people?
02:19 Today, I would not say that it is a barrier, but the first challenge for us today is the participation of disabled people themselves in the process.
02:31 Today, the different campaigns are building lists for the elections.
02:37 We think that it is important and reasonable that this fraction of the population, which represents 15% of the population,
02:45 that is, the 29 million inhabitants, you have more than 4 million people who are in a situation of disability in Ivory Coast,
02:50 it is reasonable and politically correct that these people are represented on the list.
02:57 You see, these men, when they come to power, what is the functioning of the councils?
03:04 When they make decisions without a council, when they come for the elections,
03:08 it is the members of the municipal council or the regional council who ask questions.
03:12 But if you are not a member, it means that if there are no disabled people in the council,
03:17 it is not only the question of disability, because everyone fights for his chapel.
03:21 Women have won a great victory today. Today, the presence of women has become almost mandatory on the electoral list.
03:28 So, women will be there to defend their questions. Who will be there to defend the question of disabled people?
03:34 And today, often our political allies forget that we are all disabled people in Switzerland.
03:41 So, if we do not take the question of disability into account,
03:44 the people who will become disabled people, we do not want them, but it is life, will be cut off.
03:51 And often people lose their lives for that, because there are no more employment opportunities in our institutions.
03:56 So, what are the realities that disabled people generally encounter during the polls in Ivory Coast?
04:03 The first reality is electoral communication.
04:06 Today, most communications are not accessible.
04:11 I can say that the communications are not accessible to disabled people,
04:14 because there are campaign HQs or leaders who take an interpreter to be able to translate the message.
04:21 They put their campaign program in braille so that people can read it.
04:27 Today, when there are meetings, meetings are not accessible.
04:31 Normally, people should have provisions to welcome disabled people,
04:36 disabled citizens who want to come and listen to the meeting.
04:38 But that is not the case. When you go to a meeting, you debate to be able to come.
04:43 Provisions should be made so that people can sit in front of the meeting and access the message.
04:49 This allows them to make a reasonable choice.
04:52 The goal today for us, coordination, is that disabled people can vote,
04:58 choose men who have programs for disabled people,
05:01 who have an inclusive program, that is, a program that takes into account the presence of disabled people in society.
05:06 Then, there is the access to the polling station.
05:09 Today, you see that most polling stations are in schools.
05:12 Or there are stairs.
05:15 And people, disabled people, do not have access. It's difficult.
05:19 You know that when you come, even when you come with your wheelchair,
05:22 as a disabled person, you are forced to go down the stairs to vote.
05:26 It's humiliating.
05:27 So that's why disabled people prefer not to go vote.
05:30 Now, if you are a blind person, you go vote.
05:33 It is true that the law allows you to be accompanied.
05:35 You know that today, in terms of voting, even the gentleman and the lady are not of the same tendency.
05:40 So you are going to say that the person closest to you may be your wife.
05:44 So it's not even because your wife reflects your vote.
05:47 So, in reality, what did we say?
05:49 That these people are not the ones who vote, it is the people who vote in their place.
05:52 So they don't have enough yet in the elections.
05:55 So, I think what makes us a little happy is that today we have the CEI, which is very sensitive to the question.
06:02 So we asked the CEI to, as is often the case in some institutions,
06:06 to put pregnant women and disabled people first.
06:09 This year, there are posters like this in the Office of the President
06:12 so that the fact that the disabled person goes to vote is no longer a subject of discussion.
06:18 So, at the level of the CEI, the registration operation on the electoral list of disabled people,
06:26 how much can you do?
06:28 Today, according to the latest figures from the CEI,
06:31 you have almost 11,000 people who have registered this year on the electoral list.
06:36 Because there is a project developed by the Confederation of Organizations
06:40 on the participation of disabled people in the electoral process.
06:43 This project is implemented in only five cities,
06:46 Pobwe, Yopugon, Abobo, Dalloa and Boakye.
06:51 We think that these 11,000 people are generally the result of these five cities.
06:56 But what we are most pleased about is that now, on the electoral list,
07:02 the disability mention appears for registration.
07:06 But we have to go even further so that the censors' agents are trained
07:10 to be the questioners of the Washington Group,
07:13 which allows to detect the disability of someone without asking him
07:16 whether he is in a disability situation.
07:18 Because often the formulation is shocking and people ask the question,
07:21 "Did you see a disabled person here?"
07:23 If the censors' agents are trained on the Washington Group,
07:28 we can ask someone, "Do you need a pair of glasses to read?
07:32 Do you need help to do this, this, this?"
07:35 In the end, the person can conclude that he has a physical disability, a mental disability.
07:40 It's much more subtle.
07:41 It's more subtle.
07:42 And we are pleased that this questionnaire is introduced
07:46 in the training of censors' agents, not only from the CEI,
07:49 but also from the census of the population,
07:53 which often means that we have false figures,
07:56 and it makes it difficult to plan.
07:58 And we are pleased.
07:59 We are making our authorities available to assist them
08:03 in perfecting the statistics on the disabled,
08:06 which will allow them to take into account the real needs in the programming that is done.
08:11 How can you guarantee the registration on the electoral list of disabled people?
08:17 First, in terms of our representation,
08:20 every time there is a process, we urge the leaders of the areas to raise awareness and to support.
08:26 Because for us, it's not just about raising awareness.
08:29 Because today, we have already about 400,000, 500,000 people on the electoral list.
08:34 But how do we make sure that these voters vote effectively?
08:38 That's another challenge.
08:40 The challenge is that there are people who cannot move.
08:43 We don't have a remote vote. We don't have a vote in advance.
08:47 So the person must be physically present on the day of the vote.
08:51 So that's where the organizations intervene.
08:54 But unfortunately, the organizations don't have enough resources.
08:57 Because in their positions, we want a citizen vote.
09:01 Today, if you don't officially engage in a political party, they won't support you.
09:06 Even if you do, disabled people are not even their priority.
09:10 Because someone who doesn't even have food, you ask him to pay half a franc to take a transport to vote.
09:15 He doesn't even know if the candidate who will win is worried about his situation.
09:21 That is, you have five candidates in front of you, and none of them have the disability issue in their program.
09:26 So why are you going to vote?
09:28 Very good. So how do you organize yourself at your level for the organization of these upcoming polls?
09:36 First, we try to make available to disabled people by different means, the different tests that support voting.
09:45 For example, the electoral code, the voting procedure, we put it in audio, on the keys,
09:54 and we share it with disabled people, our viewers, to be able to listen.
09:59 We try to send it to people who are deaf, who can read.
10:03 In any case, we share as much information as possible about the process.
10:06 Today, we were in the process of the ballot.
10:09 We encouraged our members to check their presence on the electoral list, whether they are new or former members.
10:15 So that even if you don't vote, you know your name is on the list.
10:20 That's important for us.
10:22 So, what we do today is to give as much information as possible to our members.
10:26 Unfortunately, we are limited by means.
10:28 Otherwise, the ideal would be to give them information, help them move around and accompany them during the vote.
10:37 That's the ideal.
10:39 But unfortunately, the most beautiful woman in the world can only give that information.
10:42 So we are content with the little we can.
10:44 This campaign that we are doing today through your media,
10:47 it's a campaign that we do thanks to the goodwill of the media that accompanies us.
10:53 We don't have any projects on it, we don't have any funding.
10:56 We do it because we feel that no one else will do it for us.
11:01 So we have to plead with the media that are sensitive to the issue of disability
11:07 to be able to pass the message and ask the political parties,
11:10 when they are making their list,
11:13 there are enough leaders of disabled people in all cities
11:16 so that all sides can find the representatives to put people on the list.
11:22 First, they have the advantage of already benefiting 15% of the electorate that are disabled people.
11:28 Second, they benefit from the support of the parents of these disabled people.
11:32 Third, they benefit from the support of the women of these disabled people.
11:36 So when you have a disabled person, you have five voices.
11:40 So the political parties have to catch that and put the disabled people as a priority in their programs.
11:48 If you take into account the specific needs of disabled people,
11:54 you will also take into account the specific needs of the elderly.
11:58 Because the needs of these two groups are not in terms of mobility and accessibility,
12:03 they are not too different.
12:05 Today, the elderly, the last one I said, is about 3% of the population who are over 65 years old.
12:11 So these are potential disabled people who may not have a disease,
12:15 but who have the ability to move.
12:18 There are also invalid diseases.
12:20 Everyone knows that today, the tension is rampant in Côte d'Ivoire.
12:23 There are diseases such as diabetes, there are burns,
12:26 all these diseases, all these leaders are potential disabled people.
12:29 So it is important today that the measures are taken
12:33 so that the decision-makers at the smallest level of the scale,
12:38 include the disabled issue as a priority.
12:41 Very good. So to finish, what are the next challenges of your organization?
12:46 The next challenge of our organization,
12:50 we are thinking about the issue of the VBG,
12:55 the violence against people.
12:57 You know, disabled people are very fragile.
13:00 And we say that women are fragile, but disabled women are even more fragile.
13:04 So today, it becomes a challenge for us,
13:07 because often we are confronted with really difficult situations.
13:10 So we want to see to what extent we can raise awareness among NGOs
13:15 that address these issues, so that in their processes,
13:19 and train them so that they can know how to take disabled people into account
13:24 in their fight and in their advocacy.
13:26 Also, there is the health aspect.
13:28 There is the health aspect. Today, it is true that many hospitals are built,
13:32 many things are done, but is this health accessible to disabled people?
13:36 Can a deaf woman go to maternity and communicate with the midwife
13:40 to explain that she is pregnant and that it has been two months
13:43 and she has not seen her baby?
13:45 So these are challenges of survival.
13:49 Today, we want to work on the challenges of survival
13:52 so that disabled people have a normal life, like all other citizens.
13:57 Very good. Do you have one last word? Do you have a message to pass on?
14:01 The message we pass on is to thank the heads of state,
14:05 who do a lot.
14:07 They promised us on February 15th a law for the ratification of the educational protocol
14:13 and the African Charter of Human Rights.
14:16 We are waiting for it.
14:18 First, we say thank you for all the decrees we have had for three years.
14:21 We have already taken five decrees, and the last one was the Fund for Autonomization of Disabled People.
14:25 We are grateful, but we are waiting.
14:29 A lot is done, but what remains to be done is very important.
14:32 Thank you very much, Mr. Conné, for being on this show.
14:35 Thank you.
14:36 Thank you, dear viewers.
14:38 I remind you that the Convention on the Rights of Disabled People,
14:42 ratified by the State of Côte d'Ivoire in its Article 29,
14:45 recommends that the parties make sure that disabled people
14:50 can effectively and fully participate in political life and public life
14:55 on the basis of equality with others,
14:58 and in particular that they have the right and the possibility to vote and be elected.
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