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Documentary
A documentary about young boxers in Spanish Harlem.
Directors: Gédéon Naudet, Jules Naudet
A documentary about young boxers in Spanish Harlem.
Directors: Gédéon Naudet, Jules Naudet
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Short filmTranscript
00:00:00It's impossible, I feel, for amateur boxing not to exist, but amateur boxing gives people
00:00:30the kids a voice. Boxing, most people that turn to boxing come from really tough neighborhoods.
00:00:39In a sense, they're fighting, they're trying to fight their way out. I know that was the
00:00:44way it was for me. And so boxing kind of gives them an identity, gives them life. They feel
00:00:51important, the neighborhood roots for them, and they come watch them train and watch them
00:00:58fight and root them on. And so they get to feel that sense of life. And that's what we're
00:01:09all looking for, you know, we're looking for some life, some room, and for some special
00:01:15moments. Believe me, you know, you get plenty of that in the sport.
00:01:21The ghetto doesn't ask for anything, no one, no one asks for the ghetto, it's the ones that
00:01:26control us all, they build us, they make us, so that the ghetto stays in the ghetto. The
00:01:31ghetto doesn't ask for anything, no one, no one asks for the ghetto, it's the ones that
00:01:36control us all, they build us, they make us, so that the ghetto stays in the ghetto.
00:01:41The ghetto doesn't ask for anything, no one, no one asks for the ghetto, it's the ones
00:01:46that control us all, they build us, they make us, so that the ghetto stays in the ghetto.
00:02:01There's no better contest than two, one man going against the other. What, what can you
00:02:06think of? I mean, you're alone, you have no help, you're only, your own strength and,
00:02:15and, and ability, you, that's all you have going for you, you haven't got anything else.
00:02:21My first fight as an amateur, I was ten years old, and I fought at Duncan Center, which
00:02:28is on the Lower East Side in Manhattan. I fought a young man by the name of Harvey,
00:02:34he was a Latin fellow, Latino, and I recall that he was fifteen years old, and he had
00:02:40a full-length beard. I said, wait a minute, here I am, ten years old, fighting a guy with
00:02:45a beard, I was like, you know, kind of intimidated, if you will. To make a long story short, if
00:02:50I could, Harvey beat me to a pulp. I was knocked down in the first round, doing my ollie shuffle,
00:02:56and I was knocked halfway across the ring. That night I lost, but I got my first taste
00:03:02of, of what it felt like to be in front of a crowd when I was ten years old, and my first
00:03:06taste of what it was like to be knocked down and be hurt in a boxing ring. I got my first
00:03:12taste of what it felt like to be, to be almost a champion.
00:03:19It's all over. Standing ovation for Michael Banks. Unbelievable. But the crowd responds.
00:03:31Boxing is the litmus test in America. It tells you what nationality is on the bottom.
00:03:40It started with the Irish, then came the Jewish, then the Italians, and then blacks. This is
00:03:48how these guys fought their way out of the ghetto that they were living in. And now you
00:03:54notice that what we're getting is Latinos, Mexicans, Asians, Africans. These are telling
00:04:01you they're on the lowly, the low, the pecking order. They're at the bottom.
00:04:15I have a history of electric shock therapy, a chemical imbalance. So what you telling
00:04:20me? The nutcracker. These are the facts. I'm never faking jacks. I'm out here to max.
00:04:25On the air with some knowledge to share. Black mafia means total health care. The group home
00:04:31and KDD all alone. We got it sewn. Blowing up on a microphone on associations. I have
00:04:37a question nation. Organizations that bring me stimulation. Information for a better lifestyle.
00:04:43No more drugs and guns bring a big smile. Bad boy, you better go to school. Cause what
00:04:48you gonna do when they come for you, fool? Congratulations if you listen to the rhyme.
00:04:53And stop doing crime. Time after time. Heal your mind with the words that I say. Erase
00:04:58the hate. Kill KKK. I'm running out of time. If you can't see. But I'll be back with more
00:05:04electric shock therapy.
00:05:18I have been playing amateur fighters since the year 1968. And that's when I really put
00:05:31all my zoom into it. That's when I really got involved with it. That's when I started
00:05:38giving up all my financial and everything. Luckily that, again, luckily that I got a
00:05:46good wife. Otherwise, man, I would have been divorced. But truthfully, since the year
00:05:531968, I've been into it with the youngsters. I love it every day of it. I fight and I get
00:05:59tired. But the day I'm not here, I feel better about it. I get my high, I get my kicks. People
00:06:05get high on drugs. People get high on losing. I get my kicks with the youngsters. All the
00:06:11youngsters that come in here, they're not here because they want to be world champs.
00:06:16Some of them do. Some of them don't. They come here because they want to get off the
00:06:21street. They want something to do.
00:06:29Now, understand that every day that you're here, some days I'm not be able to focus on
00:06:37you. Some days I'm going to let you do what you got to do, and I trust that you're doing
00:06:42what you're supposed to be doing. Some days I'm going to put pressure on you to make up
00:06:46for the day that I didn't put pressure on you. Some days you're not going to come happy
00:06:49and I blah, blah, blah. You don't want to hear crap. And when I hear that you don't
00:06:53want to hear crap, that's when I put more pressure on you. You understand? So every
00:06:59day is not apples and fruits. Okay? Because maybe there's a nigger coming. A nigger might
00:07:10give you a hard time, so I'll take it out on you. Once my wife gives me a hard time,
00:07:15I'm going to take it out on somebody. Okay. Okay, mañana. Okay, God bless you.
00:07:25When they first come in here, some of them, not all of them, they give us all kinds of
00:07:30different stories, okay? And we just listen to their stories, and then we tell them, it's
00:07:37not that way. It's not the person that you're telling me that it's ruining your life. It's
00:07:43you. You're ruining your life because you want to ruin it. Because nobody ruins nobody's
00:07:50life but yourself. You're doing this life what you want to do. Nobody forces you to
00:07:57use drugs. Nobody forces you to be in gangs. Nobody forces you to anything. You want to
00:08:04do it because you want to do it on your own.
00:08:20One, no. First one, and then the other one. You want to see what you're going to hit.
00:08:37Wham. Wham. To the front. To the front. To the front. To the front. You can do it. You
00:08:43know you can do it. Wham. Wham. Good. Good. Lose. Control yourself. If you control yourself,
00:08:50you control anybody.
00:08:52I was making money, you know, and I liked the way the money was coming and so forth.
00:08:57You know, wearing clothes, driving cars, and driving different cars and everything. You
00:09:01know, I brought a new car and all this. So what happened, I ended up getting arrested
00:09:05for possession of drugs, and I ended up getting two to four for that in the state prison.
00:09:11I was 25. So after that, I left out of Kawasaki. I went back to the same thing, selling drugs
00:09:20again, trying to come up with a new master plan. So then, this time, I was really making
00:09:25money and I really got some heavy time. And I got five years. In five years, I did five
00:09:32to ten. Came out in 1996. During my time in prison, this last time I was in prison, I
00:09:40was taking trades and so forth. So I started fighting. I went to Mid-State Correctional
00:09:44Facility. They sent me there. I don't know, it was a blessing from God. When I came down
00:09:48here, then I was looking around one day, I was throwing punches. I said, is there a gym
00:09:52over here? So can I train and all this? They said, yeah, you can come in and train. You
00:09:55can talk to Mickey.
00:09:57I don't know how in the world he came to me, how he heard about me, but he came to me.
00:10:02And I fell in love with him. Right off the bat, I felt that this kid's sincere and honest
00:10:07and has a heart of gold.
00:10:10Mickey, he gives me the speech of the mind, letting me know what time to get up and train,
00:10:20what is the right food to eat, when to go to sleep. He tells me a lot of this. Stuff
00:10:26that drives me to be hungry and to keep fighting.
00:10:39Here's your job. Take your time, okay?
00:10:56You fight on Friday?
00:10:58Thursday.
00:11:00There's no such thing as being a woman when you're boxing. You can forget about that.
00:11:06Because your punches are taken at the gym. And they're taken, not by another woman, by
00:11:15a guy.
00:11:19And them guys hit hard. And there'll be plenty of times where I've seen scars.
00:11:28So I don't think about being a woman.
00:11:32Trust me. When I get home and when I go out with my friends, that's when I'm a woman.
00:11:39When I get dressed up nice and do my hair and put on a skirt and feel like a woman,
00:11:46then I'm a woman. But when I'm in the gym, I'm like all the other guys.
00:11:52A female gotta fight for everything that they want because a female is not wanted in nowhere.
00:11:59It's like we're invading a man's world. So if a female wants something, you're gonna
00:12:05have to fight for it. You're gonna have to have a heart and you're gonna have to have
00:12:10guts to say, you're not gonna take me down. I'll take you down before you take me down.
00:12:16You have to be so committed. That means as soon as you get up out of the bed in the morning,
00:12:22the first thing you do, sit-ups. The first thing you do is boxing. Anything that has
00:12:29anything to do with boxing, which is the routine, the sit-ups, the push-ups, the shadow boxing,
00:12:35the first thing you do when you get out that bed is I get on the floor. I don't even go
00:12:40brush my teeth. Because the spirit is so in my body that I eat boxing, I sleep boxing,
00:12:48and I shit boxing. And this is daily, every day of my life. And what you put in is what
00:12:56you get out.
00:12:59I used to get in all types of problems in the street. I hardly used to go to school.
00:13:06I used to go to school and sometimes I used to cut class. I used to hang out with my friends
00:13:11and do all the bad stuff. Then I used to hang out with friends. They used to do drugs or
00:13:18they used to mug people in the street. And I had all of this stuff going around me. I
00:13:25was raised in the Bronx, so since I was raised in the ghetto, the stuff kids grew up to,
00:13:35and since they grew up seeing this, they try to do the same thing. But I try to change
00:13:42my life around. I got away from all my friends and try to do something better in life.
00:13:56To show up at a gym and to go through all the sweating and all the stress and all the
00:14:03hardship, I mean, you know, it's not going to be easy. But to get from point A to point
00:14:08B, it's going to take balls and character. That's what boxing supplies. Balls and character.
00:14:15Nuts and guts.
00:14:17I wake up at 5 o'clock in the morning, jog, come home, take a bath, go to work at 7, come
00:14:27out of work at 4 o'clock, come to the gym at 4.30, train at least two hours or two and
00:14:35a half or three, then go home by 8 or 9 o'clock. I go to sleep.
00:14:43I came for the sake of me. Thank you for so much. The rest you got to learn on your own.
00:14:48What you got to learn is discipline. You get too angry, too cocky, you get too cocky, you
00:14:53can't think while you're in there. You listening? You have to have a very cool mind and think.
00:15:02Okay, you have to wait some time for the opportunity. But if you go out there and look for war,
00:15:08you're going to find war. You're not going to win the fight.
00:15:17Give me the rope. No bag.
00:15:21Huh? Look for a rope. Get a rope. Huh?
00:15:28Yeah, you want to get a rope. Get a rope.
00:15:32You make them or you break them. You make it so difficult for them when they're in that gym.
00:15:39And if they really want to be there, and if they really want to do something in their
00:15:45life, they take that discipline.
00:15:48Negra, she's a very special person. She's very nice. At the same time, she's strict
00:15:55because she don't like people fooling around with her. She likes everything to be cool.
00:16:03She treats you like you're her own son, her own kid. That's the way she treats me.
00:16:11Everybody, like, they used to try to bully on me and stuff. It wasn't like I was a punk
00:16:27or anything. I used to fight back, but I didn't know how to. So one day, right, I was outside
00:16:34and we was playing. We was playing by the basketball courts, and some kids came and
00:16:41they started troubling me. They already knew I was there. They was watching me all day.
00:16:45Came to me with a bottle. I chased the kid. I beat him up, and then all his friends came
00:16:50and started jumping me. And when I started going to the gym, started learning to fight,
00:16:54every time they tried something, I used to be knocking them down left and right so they
00:16:58don't mess with me no more.
00:17:01When you're going to school and stuff, you see people wearing red flags or gray flags,
00:17:08and they, like, if you look at them and they look at you, they might say something, trying
00:17:14to show off in front of their friends, because they are this or I'm a gang. I'm in a gang,
00:17:20this and this. This is the color of my flag and stuff. And you fight them, they try to
00:17:25hit your face and stuff. They'll fight you one-on-one. They're going to jump you if you're
00:17:30winning. So it's bad stuff. And if you're in the wrong spot, when the cops roll up,
00:17:37you could be there just standing there. They taking you in for no reason. Probably think
00:17:42you were watched or something. So it's not a good life.
00:17:47Jonathan and Don came in here. They were cursed. They would yell. They would get into fights.
00:17:54They would get into fights in the street. They were not doing good in school. I mean,
00:18:00they were fighting in school. They were terrorists.
00:18:04The main thing they taught me how to control my temper. Like, in school, if they, like,
00:18:09pressure me too much, keep starting trouble, I won't let the person hit me first. I hit
00:18:14them first. And boxing is to defend yourself. You're supposed to wait for them to hit you.
00:18:19Then you defend yourself.
00:18:21That's why Mickey be, like, watching. He get mad when we fight sometimes. And that's why
00:18:25he be like, if somebody says something, just lay up. Now, if he touches you, hey, he touched
00:18:33me. Do what you got to do, Mickey said. Because there ain't going to be a fool to let nobody
00:18:38hit you and stuff.
00:18:40But he said, as long as they curse at you, say stuff, never mind them. That's what he
00:18:45says. They dummies. They fools. That's why I like Mickey a lot. He tells us the facts.
00:18:53You got one thing in mind. To defend, defend, defend, defend, OK? So he can't hit you back.
00:18:57Are you listening? Go from left to right, from right to left. How you feel? One more
00:19:01round, OK? Now, when you hit a 30-second rest, you got to put in more pressure. You allow
00:19:06him to get away, OK? You listening? All right. OK.
00:19:11After they come out of here, we work them so hard that when they're tired, they can
00:19:18go out and hang out in the corner. They can say, a friend invite them somewhere. They're
00:19:24so tired that they just want to go home and take a shower and go to bed.
00:19:30Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light, what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's
00:19:42last gleaming?
00:19:43Fighting in the finals of the Junior Olympics is hard and stuff, because you know that if
00:19:48you don't pull it off and stuff, you ain't going nowhere. You get to the gym, then referees
00:19:55and stuff come in. They fight us to the back. You got to take over stuff and get weighed
00:20:00in.
00:20:01When those kids come to the room, I just don't know how they do it. They have the expression
00:20:06they bring their game face. The whole dynamic changes once the first bout sheet comes out.
00:20:18And then they realize that this guy that they've been sitting next to, joking with, for the
00:20:24first 40 minutes since they got there, is now the guy that's looking to knock him out
00:20:30of the tournament. And then it's all of a sudden they part, because now this is business.
00:20:37So you shadowboxing, trying to intimidate him. He's trying to intimidate you. You may
00:20:42believe that you're not scared and stuff, you're not nervous, but you really is.
00:20:47And the home of the brave.
00:20:59Everybody wants to be Mark Breeland. Everybody wants to be Muhammad Ali. The little kid from
00:21:06Kentucky who changed the world.
00:21:11Stay safe and stay focused, alright?
00:21:17First of all, I pray to God. God's the number one thing. I pray to him always. God help
00:21:24me go through this fight. Don't let me get hurt, please God. And so far, yeah, he helped
00:21:32me.
00:21:33Say what you will. Everybody says they want to see a guy with speed and quickness. Everybody's
00:21:37coming to see the quick knockout. And no kid wants to be the one that is the guy that
00:21:43walks into that left hook or that right hand that's going to put them down.
00:21:49When you get in the ring and stuff, you're like, oh, you're bouncing around. And it don't
00:22:07feel right no more. It feels strange. And everything goes deaf. The crowd, it stays
00:22:16paused. And you're moving around, you're throwing chads. And when somebody gets the first one
00:22:21in, they go, oh, that's when you hit the crowd.
00:22:28They told me, when you're fighting and the guy gets you with a good one, block the crowd
00:22:33out. Don't listen to the crowd. And the crowd can beat you as fast as the fighter can beat
00:22:39you.
00:22:41You hit the guy, the fear starts leaving. The guy hits you, it's gone. You're just fighting.
00:22:50There's no more nervous because you're down there doing business. Fighting your way all
00:22:55the way until the bell rings.
00:22:59One of the most things I like is when you go to your corner, they're like, you've got
00:23:03to do this because you're losing it, you're blowing it. You're like, you're blowing it.
00:23:08Are you listening? Watch this, watch this. He doesn't want to fuck with you. Are you
00:23:11listening? Same pressure you gave him. A little bit of hand jab, okay? How do you feel? Think
00:23:19it. And you're like, come on, you've got to come out and give it all you've got. Give
00:23:23it everything you have just to make those judges think that you won.
00:23:28Okay?
00:23:42When the bell sounds, those are the longest three minutes on earth. Now they're sucking
00:23:49wind and they're gasping for air. And while they may be strong and the tough guy in the
00:23:55neighborhood who can put people down with one punch, they're going to hit a guy that
00:24:01knows how to take a punch. Now what? Now the other guy is hitting back.
00:24:16My mother and father used to come, but now, I don't know, they don't come anymore. They
00:24:22just love to fight. They wait home, nervous, see if we win or lose. My father, he'd be
00:24:30like, just fight. Papa didn't raise no punks, you know what I'm saying? You feel real good
00:24:38when they give you a trophy, your medal, and they say you made it to the New York City
00:24:44true Olympic fighters to go out of state and fight. That makes you feel good. I feel like
00:24:51you fight for your country instead.
00:24:53Boxing, in my estimation, is as intimate as making love because you're sharing passion.
00:24:59You're sharing hatred. You're sharing extreme fear. You're displaying emotions that only
00:25:06you and your opponent are privy to. So in saying that, there's like a lifelong commitment.
00:25:14The guy I fought my first fight with, Harvey, I mean, him and I are forever linked in his
00:25:19mind and as well as my mind. I don't know where he is right now, but there'll always
00:25:26be that bond between him and I. It's like a momentary marriage when two fighters fight.
00:25:32Whether you're eight years old or whether you're 25 years old, you're married momentarily.
00:25:38And as with Ollie and Louis, Ollie and Frazier, Louis and Max Schmeling, Dempsey and Jess
00:25:46they'll always be linked as two. And for that reason, most boxers have a special place
00:25:52in their heart for their opponents. You can't forget them.
00:26:16When I scold them or anything, I just don't want them to take the street to me.
00:26:35I had a group of youngsters many, many moons ago and I lost a couple of them.
00:26:45I lost a couple of them to drugs and it's a hurting thing to see them laying in the floor dead
00:26:53and it's a hurting thing to see them with a needle in their veins, you understand?
00:26:59And it hurts. And once you see that, you say, now I know I gotta keep them here and I gotta
00:27:08be strict to them. I can't have them go to the streets.
00:27:14You work on to mold them. Some of them need love, so you give them love.
00:27:20Some of them need discipline. You gotta be strong and tough with them.
00:27:25And they like it, so they stay.
00:27:29She's tough. She's the backbone of everybody. She sees something and she analyzes it.
00:27:41Later on, she grabs everybody together and she discusses it.
00:27:45This is what you need to do. Because she sits back and she thinks.
00:27:49It takes her about a whole day or two days and she'll come in and approach everybody with it.
00:27:54And this is what you should do. You should go about it this way.
00:27:57On my role as a trainer, I gotta be a mother, a nurse, a psychiatrist.
00:28:06If they're sad, I gotta be sad with them. If they cry, I gotta cry with them.
00:28:12If they're angry and somebody hurt them, I gotta be angry just like they are
00:28:17and fight for them and help them out.
00:28:20Show them that I'm not their enemy, that I'm in their side.
00:28:24I gotta be always by their side.
00:28:27You wanna do what you wanna do and that's what's not gonna work out.
00:28:30It's not gonna work out the way you wanna do it.
00:28:33If you do it my way, I'm gonna pull you right out.
00:28:35Pop, pop, pop, pop your left hand. You're getting on my nerves already.
00:28:39What am I saying to you? You have to use the jab from left to right.
00:28:43Don't try to look pretty.
00:28:45I have no problems relating to youngsters.
00:28:48Some of them like to fight, so I take all their anger
00:28:52and I embarrass them in front of everybody.
00:28:55And I say, see, I'm putting more pressure on you
00:28:58than the guy next door is putting pressure on you.
00:29:00I'm hitting you and slapping you, and yet you're not fighting with me.
00:29:04And you could be my behind in a minute, but yet you're not fighting me.
00:29:09That means that you don't wanna go out there.
00:29:11You just wanna show that you're tough.
00:29:13You don't have to be tough.
00:29:15Bam, bam, bing, bing, bing, bing.
00:29:18I can hit you and move around.
00:29:20You don't have to walk to my left. You don't have to walk to my right.
00:29:23I can get pretty.
00:29:25I feel like I'm falling off balance.
00:29:27No, you're sinking.
00:29:30What was that ship that sank, that big ship?
00:29:33Titanic?
00:29:34Titanic, yeah. That's what you look like.
00:29:38Yeah. You know the ship now, right?
00:29:41When you're boxing, think of the Titanic.
00:29:43All right.
00:29:45Most of my friends now, some of them are in jail.
00:29:51Some of them are probably in heaven.
00:29:57Most of them are junkies.
00:30:02Some of them are really still just using drugs in the street,
00:30:07doing bad stuff, like mugging and doing awful stuff in the street.
00:30:13For me, I change.
00:30:16That's no life for me.
00:30:18Son, I love you. You gotta be here.
00:30:22You got talent.
00:30:23If you don't put your talent to use, it's a waste of talent.
00:30:27If you tell me you're going to school, then I'll buy that.
00:30:30Then I won't pick on you.
00:30:32All right, all right, all right.
00:30:34If you're going to school, then I said that.
00:30:37If you're going to school, that's priority.
00:30:40If you're going to school, that's priority.
00:30:43Okay?
00:30:44Okay, that's all right. Say no more.
00:30:46Provided that you promise that you'll hide away with good marks.
00:30:50Mickey, you know, he don't care anything about making no money.
00:30:55Mickey's life, really, basically, I would say, is keeping kids off the street.
00:31:01He gets a lot of pledge out of, you know,
00:31:04Just see a kid, he going to be a teacher or a policeman or something, you know.
00:31:10He walking home.
00:31:13Maybe some night, a guy walk by him.
00:31:15I walk with him, you know.
00:31:17He said, I'm okay, you know.
00:31:18The guy said, well, you don't know me, huh?
00:31:20He'd be some policeman, some guy he trained when he was a little kid.
00:31:24That gives him a good feeling, you see.
00:31:31This was not Spanish Idol.
00:31:33This was called Little Italy.
00:31:36When we came in, we were called Puerto Rican pigs.
00:31:40Back at once, their welfare, they want to work.
00:31:44It's too stupid that we were not smart enough because we couldn't even learn the language we know right.
00:31:49Mickey Rosario was born in 1936 in Puerto Rico.
00:31:54Mickey is one year old when his father abandons his family.
00:31:58Three years later, Mickey's mother and her four sons immigrate to East Harlem, New York City,
00:32:04an Italian neighborhood at that time.
00:32:07My daily life was going to school, fighting my way to school and running my ass back home
00:32:17because I had to find my way to go to school.
00:32:20When I was in school, I couldn't learn because I was afraid that I have to run my way home.
00:32:26In the summer of 1953, at the age of 14, Mickey forms a gang with the Puerto Rican kids of his neighborhood.
00:32:34We became a youth gang not because we were forceful or shooting people or mugging people or hurting people,
00:32:40just that we had to fight together, fight our way.
00:32:43It's very simple.
00:32:45To go swimming, to have recreation, we had to fight our way.
00:32:48So we said we're not going to go no more. We're going to fight.
00:32:51We were called the Comanches.
00:32:53We picked up an Indian because the Indians were the warriors and they were fighting.
00:32:56So we said we're warriors, we're fighting.
00:32:58We're fighting to preserve our rights like the Indians.
00:33:00We're fighting to preserve the right.
00:33:02So I said, well, let's start by hitting the toughest one.
00:33:06Let's pick up a fight with the dragons.
00:33:10I think one of them, the leader, came into our neighborhood.
00:33:16So I told the guy, what's your problem?
00:33:19There's no problem. What are you going to do about it?
00:33:21He said, I'm going to do about it.
00:33:23I cocked him up. I popped him.
00:33:26He fell down and I kept hitting him.
00:33:30The dragons become part of Mickey's gang.
00:33:35By the end of the following year, Mickey controls most of the gangs in Harlem.
00:33:41Then it got so big that it had over 1,000 people.
00:33:48It got so big that people got afraid of me.
00:33:52They were afraid of me.
00:33:54My word was like God's word.
00:33:57I hate to say that.
00:34:00You could never amount to God's word, but I felt that way at that time.
00:34:05I can eliminate you.
00:34:08Just like that.
00:34:10And I don't have to be near you.
00:34:13Negra was born in 1939 in Puerto Rico.
00:34:16The following year, her family emigrates to the Bronx, New York.
00:34:21Negra is 15 years old when she meets Mickey at a neighborhood dance.
00:34:25He walked in.
00:34:28Everybody moved aside.
00:34:31And I saw this little shrimp.
00:34:34This little shrimp.
00:34:37Everybody's scared of that little thing.
00:34:42My friends say, no.
00:34:44Everybody respects him because when he says something, he does it.
00:34:48I said, yeah.
00:34:50I said, well, I ain't scared of him.
00:34:53I never kissed a girl.
00:34:55I just thought I liked her.
00:34:57I felt in love with her.
00:34:59Not love.
00:35:00It's just that you felt that she was part of you.
00:35:02This is mine.
00:35:03This is what I own.
00:35:05No one will ever hear that.
00:35:07It's all mine.
00:35:10It's going to be mine for life.
00:35:12In 1955, the city of New York sends social workers to the five boroughs
00:35:17to help the troubled youth.
00:35:20A social worker named Jen decides to change Mickey's life around.
00:35:24Everywhere Mike would go, that man was right there.
00:35:27Mike would be sleeping in his house, and Jean would be sitting in a chair
00:35:32waiting for Mike to get up because, in other words, he was the head.
00:35:36So he had to finish the group.
00:35:42He had to look out for the head.
00:35:45Once he'd get rid of the head, everybody would break up.
00:35:50Every time I'd go to get locked up, he'd pick me up and get me out.
00:35:55So one day he went over to the draft board, and he pushed my draft.
00:36:02One day, Jean took him to take a physical.
00:36:05Mike never came back.
00:36:10Private Rosario served his two years at Fort Dix.
00:36:16In 1957, Mickey returns to East Harlem and chooses a new life for himself.
00:36:22He breaks down his gang, finds a job as a pharmacy clerk, and marries Negra.
00:36:31They have two sons, Mickey Jr. and Ralph.
00:36:39Now a father himself, Mickey remembers his oldest brother, Rafael,
00:36:45who raised him and supported all the family when they moved to New York.
00:36:50I get very emotional when I think about my brother.
00:36:57I never had the love of a father.
00:37:03Someone that would come and, you know, hold you or spank you.
00:37:10Never had that.
00:37:13When I think about that man, I cry.
00:37:26When I think about him.
00:37:32Very, very deep.
00:37:34Very, very deep.
00:37:39Tough.
00:37:41Tough.
00:37:42Smart.
00:37:48It's always one by the Bible, by the book.
00:37:55Another one by the book, by the Bible.
00:37:59Because it was too nice.
00:38:03But he gave me so much love.
00:38:08And that's the reason that I'm doing what I'm doing now, working with kids.
00:38:15Because I never knew what a father was like.
00:38:22In 1963, Mickey turns to boxing and fights professionally until 1968.
00:38:35Mickey's two sons enjoy training with their father, as well as their friends,
00:38:40who joined Mickey's coaching one by one.
00:38:44And that's when I started teaching kids.
00:38:46And for one kid, I wound up getting two kids, three kids, four kids.
00:38:50It was not Michael the fighter, the boxer.
00:38:53I was Michael the coach.
00:38:55Basically, we used to recruit out people from the streets.
00:38:58People that used to be involved in gangs, drug-related, anything like that.
00:39:03We would take those people off the streets and bring them into our home.
00:39:08We would basically have to make up our own plans to train.
00:39:13There was no such training, no weights, no nothing.
00:39:15We had none of that.
00:39:16One day, something came over me that there was this young kid that was losing.
00:39:22And something told me, like, I could make this youngster win if I was in his corner.
00:39:30And there was this lady next to me.
00:39:32I told her, next year, I won't be sitting here.
00:39:37I'll be up there training them.
00:39:41And she says, it's a man's world.
00:39:45And I said, I'm going to be the first woman to invade a man's world.
00:39:51She said, I want to help you.
00:39:53I said, I don't know if you're going to help me, but I can't fight.
00:39:57A hundred people, 2,000 people, you know, they're going to call your cousin's name,
00:40:01from a pastor to a bush, to whatever.
00:40:03I can't fight you.
00:40:04You know, I think about it.
00:40:06But a woman is very persistent.
00:40:09I want to be what you are.
00:40:11It's all right.
00:40:13By 1974, Negro Rosario becomes the first American woman boxing coach.
00:40:20She was a woman?
00:40:22Oh, my God.
00:40:23In a man's world?
00:40:25She was Puerto Rican?
00:40:27Oh, my God.
00:40:28This is unheard of, you know.
00:40:30And she was a mother and had a job.
00:40:33That amazes me.
00:40:35I would go inside the dressing room.
00:40:38The men would take me out.
00:40:40No ladies allowed.
00:40:41The kids would push me back in.
00:40:43And the men would take me back out, and they would push me back in.
00:40:47Until one day I got very, very angry.
00:40:49This was in the forum at the time.
00:40:52And I told the man that was always telling me that I didn't belong there.
00:40:56I told him, you know something?
00:41:00Do you know where your wife is?
00:41:02So he says to me, my wife is at home where she belongs, where you belong,
00:41:07barefooted and pregnant.
00:41:09I says, well, you don't want me to tell you something?
00:41:11My husband, my sons, and these kids want me here, okay?
00:41:16And you think you left your wife at home.
00:41:19Well, maybe she's not home.
00:41:21Maybe she's somewhere else that you don't want her to be.
00:41:24So all of a sudden the man got angry and left me alone.
00:41:28They booted her.
00:41:29They called the kids homosexual faggots, all kinds of names.
00:41:33I told the kids, you ask for this, you have to stick to it.
00:41:37The kids were determined to have her by her side.
00:41:40It was the first time a woman had ever been in the garden or the forum.
00:41:45But this was the big garden.
00:41:47The highlight of the Golden Glove was the final, and my kids won everything.
00:41:53Ronald Turner is the Super Heavyweight Open champion.
00:42:00Winston Bent got knocked down from a right hand at the side of the head.
00:42:05He is stumbling, wobbling across the ring.
00:42:07He still doesn't know where he is right now.
00:42:12I would call her a pioneer.
00:42:14I would call her a fighter.
00:42:16A fighter for women's rights.
00:42:19And all of a sudden now, it's okay for women to do this.
00:42:24But she was the forerunner and the one that set it.
00:42:28All these young ladies that are out here now, they're standing on her shoulders.
00:42:32And she still has some big, strong shoulders.
00:42:38It's kind of good when you see them win and you see them that they raise their hands
00:42:43and that they become winners.
00:42:45And when they get that gold in their neck, it's like you did your job.
00:42:51You just looked at each other and go, well, we did it.
00:42:56So we helped them out, but they did it on their own.
00:42:59It's theirs.
00:43:01The Gloves.
00:43:03The Gloves applications are coming out next week.
00:43:07They're going to start much earlier this year.
00:43:09So tell your kids to start looking for the application.
00:43:13With that, let me say this.
00:43:16We cannot afford to have any problems this year from an athlete or a coach.
00:43:23All right?
00:43:25I don't want to go through it, but the guys who had a couple of shows last year,
00:43:28things got out of hand.
00:43:30And on a couple of occasions with the athletes, if you break a window
00:43:35or you punch a civilian or you threaten an official or you put your hands on somebody,
00:43:41it's not going to be any of your business anymore.
00:43:43If you cross that line and you've been a criminal act, you do the crime you learned every time.
00:43:54You're fighting him, right?
00:43:55No.
00:44:08We ain't waiting for this guy.
00:44:09We're not waiting for him.
00:44:11Punch him silly.
00:44:13If you're not in top shape, you never know what could happen.
00:44:20You'll probably lose or you'll probably get knocked out.
00:44:24But I use that for training, and sometimes I use the job where I work at.
00:44:29I'm a construction worker.
00:44:31I work on scaffolds and buildings.
00:44:37I do the job I do as part of my work, my gym work, my exercise.
00:44:52A lot of people, like, they call me Tyson.
00:44:54They say I look like Tyson and fight like Tyson and so forth.
00:45:00I fight like me, you know, Quinn.
00:45:02I sing, I fight like me.
00:45:05Nigga, she's just there.
00:45:07She's like, don't listen to that.
00:45:10Just pay attention to what you got to do.
00:45:13I just get that motherly love from her.
00:45:21Take care of your business.
00:45:23I'm here for you.
00:45:24Don't worry about it.
00:45:25We're with you 100%.
00:45:27That's how she is.
00:45:30I thank God that he's given me the strength that he's given me.
00:45:34He's the only one that's given it to me.
00:45:37He's the only one that's getting me up in the morning
00:45:41and having me focus on what I have to do
00:45:44and giving me my strength and my well-being
00:45:47and my courage and all of this that plays a major part.
00:45:54He's number one.
00:45:57Right now I'm in training.
00:45:59I've been dying for a piece of chocolate.
00:46:02I mean, you should see me.
00:46:04I was at the job today, and my boss said,
00:46:07oh, brownies, chocolate cookies,
00:46:12and chocolate candy bars and jelly beans.
00:46:16Do you know how hard it was for me to pull away from that stuff?
00:46:20And I said, no, I'm not going to cheat
00:46:23because if I cheat now, I'm cheating myself later.
00:46:27I have to stay strong to the cause,
00:46:30and the cause is stay away from sugar,
00:46:34no five foods, no breads, no sex,
00:46:41and I've been doing good.
00:46:43Sex makes you passive.
00:46:45The stuff where it makes your knees weak and hold not,
00:46:47yeah, it does make your knees weak,
00:46:49but that comes back in a couple of days.
00:46:52Fighters in the old school, they would go a month, six weeks,
00:46:56no sex, no nothing.
00:46:58That's absurd to me.
00:47:00I say 10 days.
00:47:03Mentally, you're annoyed.
00:47:05Physically, you're nice and strong.
00:47:07You're like, girls, they're good and everything,
00:47:10but they get you weak, and you could get hurt in the ring
00:47:14trying to eat your time and stuff,
00:47:17and that messes up your fight.
00:47:19That's how you get caught out there,
00:47:21messing with girls, like, ah, fight tomorrow,
00:47:24going in, first round, you're like looking pretty.
00:47:27Second round, you're really like...
00:47:30The guy's fresh because he never did nothing with the girl.
00:47:34All that muscle you've been training,
00:47:36that's when you get caught and hurt.
00:47:38When I win, I feel like the most famous guy there is
00:47:45because everybody feel happy to win and fight,
00:47:49or to be a winner.
00:47:52That's a very good way to feel,
00:48:00feel with joy, jump around, like, whoa, I'm a winner.
00:48:09Too far behind
00:48:12Too far
00:48:16Too far behind
00:48:19Too far behind
00:48:22Here's a show that comes to the neighborhood,
00:48:24and everybody from the neighborhood
00:48:26talks about it for weeks before it comes.
00:48:29Oh, you know, the Golden Gloves show is coming.
00:48:32Let's get some tickets.
00:48:34And for $8 or $10,
00:48:37for what a lot of people are paying to go to a movie in Manhattan,
00:48:41you're going to see a live sport event,
00:48:45single elimination.
00:48:47Those kids come in, you win, you move ahead,
00:48:51you lose, you're out.
00:48:53They've worked all year for this one shot,
00:48:57so it's all on the line.
00:48:58There's no hiding.
00:49:01When a kid comes in and we weigh him in,
00:49:04and then sit down and wait maybe two, three, four hours
00:49:07before he fights,
00:49:09and for most of us, fighting doesn't come naturally,
00:49:12so you have to mentally control this,
00:49:14and you're watching all the kids warming up around you,
00:49:17punching the mitts,
00:49:18and you're wondering, boy, that guy looks tough,
00:49:20this guy hits hard, that guy's tall, this guy's short,
00:49:23and you're wondering who you're going to fight
00:49:25and what you're going to do.
00:49:26This is what they have worked so hard for,
00:49:30and now it's time to put it on the line.
00:49:33And A, they don't want to look foolish,
00:49:35they don't want to be embarrassed,
00:49:37and they don't want to lose.
00:49:38And your fight's getting closer,
00:49:40and then finally they call your name,
00:49:43and they put a pair of gloves on you,
00:49:45and then they put a robe on you,
00:49:46and they march you up the stairs and into the arena,
00:49:49and the pressure builds,
00:49:51and you feel like you want to just leave there.
00:49:54It's the last place in the world you want to be.
00:49:57You're in a room that may be holding 600, 700 people
00:50:01packed one on top of another,
00:50:03and the energy is, oh, yeah, I like this kid in gold,
00:50:07or I want this kid in blue,
00:50:09and they know nothing about them.
00:50:12They don't know who these kids are.
00:50:15They tell you to come up to that ring,
00:50:17and you walk up to the ring,
00:50:18your knees are shaking, your mouth is dry,
00:50:22but you step through those ropes,
00:50:24and once you step through those ropes,
00:50:26you say to yourself, this is it.
00:50:28¶¶
00:50:54The extraordinary thing about these kids who do this
00:50:57is the circumstances that they come from.
00:51:00They come from chaos.
00:51:02There's no reason to think that they would have the character,
00:51:08the determination, the willpower
00:51:12to go through this grueling ordeal,
00:51:15ultimately just to win a pair of, you know, toy gloves,
00:51:20toy golden gloves that you can dangle from a chain
00:51:24and wear around your neck.
00:51:26¶¶
00:51:54How are you feeling about that?
00:51:56Me?
00:51:58Like any other fight, I know what I got to do
00:52:00when I go in there.
00:52:02Take it to her.
00:52:04Let her know who's the boss.
00:52:06¶¶
00:52:09That's it.
00:52:10That's all my job is to do,
00:52:12is go in there, hit as hard as I can,
00:52:15get her to back up, and then I dominate the fight.
00:52:20¶¶
00:52:30¶¶
00:52:43¶¶
00:52:57¶¶
00:53:04I don't care.
00:53:06Women, man, child, the big bad bully,
00:53:10I don't care who you are, you're going to always be scared.
00:53:14Yes, because you don't know what to expect.
00:53:18You don't know how hard you're going to get hit,
00:53:21how frightening that might be.
00:53:23You don't know what's going to happen until it's over.
00:53:27Then the next time it's easier.
00:53:29If you can handle it.
00:53:31If you can handle the first time,
00:53:33the next time will be a little easier.
00:53:36But it's very scary.
00:53:38It's very scary.
00:53:40¶¶
00:53:48No matter how much you don't want your eyes
00:53:50to dance over to the guy you're fighting,
00:53:52it's daunting because it's a magnetic attraction.
00:53:55This is the guy you're going to meet
00:53:57in a few minutes in the ring,
00:53:59and you want to know where he's at.
00:54:01You want to see if there's any flaws in his personality,
00:54:04and that's going to give you,
00:54:06that encourages a little more why you're going to win.
00:54:09¶¶
00:54:13Ladies and gentlemen, tonight's next bout
00:54:15is the women's 156-pound novice class.
00:54:18The referee is Frank Martinez.
00:54:22Well, let's take a look.
00:54:24She came out with a straight right hand.
00:54:44Rodriguez landing with both hands.
00:54:52There's a third-degree black belt in Farhani.
00:54:56Coming to the end of round one,
00:54:58big combinations land for Evelyn Rodriguez.
00:55:05Out for round two,
00:55:07Evelyn Rodriguez in the blue,
00:55:09Lisa Doviziani in the gold.
00:55:14Rodriguez landing the right hand.
00:55:18Told Kathy earlier today
00:55:20she'd like to open up a gym
00:55:22for battered women and children.
00:55:24And she's battering one now.
00:55:29There's that left hand to the body again.
00:55:32Oh, good combination, left and right by Rodriguez.
00:55:35And again, Doviziani's game as can be.
00:55:41Straight lefts have landed.
00:55:43Second standing eight count.
00:55:47They're not a safety device.
00:55:49Doviziani has landed some right hands here.
00:55:52I think Rodriguez was rocked in there.
00:55:54Evelyn by right hand.
00:55:59It's a little spacey.
00:56:02This is the end of round two.
00:56:05This is the end of round two.
00:56:36Now right hand.
00:56:38Lisa Doviziani, boy, is she game.
00:56:41She's game, correct.
00:56:43Again, that happens almost every time I see a woman fight.
00:56:47Women are game as can be.
00:56:56Rodriguez landing,
00:56:58and then ducking away from the counters
00:57:01and hits on the brain.
00:57:04Both women are coming out,
00:57:06and they're just throwing punches like that.
00:57:10Doviziani walked right into her.
00:57:12And more.
00:57:14And Doviziani's hair hanging down.
00:57:17She can barely see.
00:57:29And Rodriguez finishes big.
00:57:32And they keep going after the bell.
00:57:34Oh, and a kick from Doviziani.
00:57:38Never seen that.
00:57:44Doviziani kept throwing punches,
00:57:46and then she's been involved in karate,
00:57:49and she threw a kick.
00:57:51And she did.
00:57:53You don't get any points for scoring with a kick.
00:57:55No.
00:58:03That got downright nasty.
00:58:14And here's the announcement of the champion.
00:58:17The winner of the women's 156-pound numbers class
00:58:21is from the blue corner,
00:58:24Evelyn Rodriguez.
00:58:27A 5-0 unanimous decision for Evelyn Rodriguez.
00:58:31Now there's a good show of sportsmanship.
00:58:35Rodriguez landing many more punches.
00:58:37Took some punches from a very game,
00:58:39Lisa Doviziani.
00:58:44When I went back home,
00:58:46that's where I really felt good,
00:58:48with people, when I pressed my ass to a machine,
00:58:50and people was like,
00:58:51Yes, Evelyn!
00:58:53Yo, you were great, this and that.
00:58:55That made me feel good.
00:58:57You know, my friends to recognize that
00:58:59I did a good job,
00:59:00and my family calling me to congratulate me.
00:59:04Look, that's where my rewards were.
00:59:06Just was happy that I was able to,
00:59:09you know, get the victory.
00:59:11That meant a lot, because I trained hard.
00:59:14And the next day I partied.
00:59:19And I partied for three weeks.
00:59:31When I'm fighting, I'm really not scared.
00:59:33Scared of nothing.
00:59:35Because, you know, you never know
00:59:37when you could get knocked out.
00:59:40A simple punch could knock you down to the ground.
00:59:43But I don't fear that.
00:59:45When I go in the ring,
00:59:47I don't fear that.
00:59:49When I go in the ring,
00:59:51I don't fear that.
00:59:53When I go in the ring,
00:59:55I don't fear that.
00:59:57I don't fear that.
00:59:59When I go in the ring,
01:00:01I go to win.
01:00:02I always think positive.
01:00:04If I think negative,
01:00:06then I be with fear in my heart.
01:00:09Then I probably won't accomplish
01:00:12to rise to the top.
01:00:19Ladies and gentlemen,
01:00:20tonight's next bout is the men's 139-pound open class.
01:00:23The referee is Frank Martinez.
01:00:27We begin round number one,
01:00:29the 139-pound open championship.
01:00:33Overhand right landing for Izigi.
01:00:38Followed by a left.
01:00:40And another left.
01:00:42Left hook is getting in there real good on Rodriguez.
01:00:5812 seconds to go, round number one,
01:01:00the 139-pound open championship.
01:01:03Good action in the first for both of these men.
01:01:15Round number two,
01:01:16Rudy Rodriguez in blue.
01:01:19There's another left hook by Izigi.
01:01:23That's been the difference in every exchange.
01:01:26Left hook.
01:01:30And a point has been deducted
01:01:32from Rudy Rodriguez.
01:01:35A low blow.
01:01:37But I had seen a couple of other low blows
01:01:39that went unnoticed.
01:01:40He's been trying to work the body a little bit, Nick.
01:01:42And a big left hand out of the break for Izigi.
01:01:46He took that one personally.
01:01:4915 seconds to go, round number two,
01:01:52139-pound open championship.
01:02:07We stay between rounds.
01:02:18Izigi.
01:02:19Rudy.
01:02:22You got him, Rudy.
01:02:23Rudy.
01:02:28Keep it moving.
01:02:29Keep it moving like you did in the warm-up.
01:02:31Stay tight, man.
01:02:32Go to work.
01:02:33Keep moving.
01:02:36Oh, Jeff.
01:02:41Because of that point deduction,
01:02:43Rodriguez is going to have to have a real big round
01:02:46to win this fight for us.
01:02:49And look at the energy from both of these guys
01:02:52to begin the third round.
01:02:54They are throwing a lot of leather around.
01:03:00Izigi scoring almost.
01:03:05And Rodriguez is now coming forward,
01:03:07and Izigi's going backwards.
01:03:09Izigi wobbling a bit.
01:03:11Taking a lot of punches.
01:03:13Yeah, there he is.
01:03:14He steps back a little bit.
01:03:16Yeah, there he is.
01:03:17He steps back again.
01:03:19Rodriguez feels it.
01:03:24And he continues to come forward
01:03:26with a minute 23 to go.
01:03:32This is some fight here.
01:03:33The pace of these guys.
01:03:35Well, the difference in this fight may be
01:03:37the fact that Rodriguez lost a point.
01:03:42And Izigi is out of gas, folks.
01:03:47Rodriguez is on it.
01:03:53Izigi's hands are dropped.
01:03:56Here's Rodriguez.
01:03:5750 seconds to go.
01:03:59That's an eternity.
01:04:00Got a long way to go.
01:04:02Look at the action in this fight.
01:04:05Uppercut landed.
01:04:06Izigi's trying to hold.
01:04:08Rodriguez won't give him any chance to rest.
01:04:10Now Izigi on his toes.
01:04:12A lot of holding by Izigi.
01:04:14Straight jab, right hand.
01:04:17Rodriguez.
01:04:21No life in Ike Izigi right now.
01:04:25Into the corner.
01:04:27Batting practice for Rodriguez.
01:04:31But is it too late?
01:04:32That's the question.
01:04:35One 39 open championship.
01:04:39One second, and that's it.
01:04:43Ike Izigi's spent after this one.
01:04:47And the crowd very appreciative.
01:04:51You have to learn to relax in that ring.
01:04:55And apparently,
01:04:57you can't relax in that ring.
01:05:00Apparently, Izigi has not learned that secret yet.
01:05:03He really made that a guess in that last round.
01:05:13Rudy Rodriguez, 20 years old,
01:05:15out of the Thomas Jefferson Boxing Club.
01:05:18A technical career institute student.
01:05:26And a different look in the eye.
01:05:29And a different look on the face of Ike Izigi.
01:05:32A little doubt.
01:05:34We'll see. Here's Kevin Van Meter.
01:05:36The winner of the men's 139 pound open class is
01:05:41from the gold corner, Ike Izigi.
01:05:45Ike Izigi, a 3-2 decision.
01:05:51So the point being deducted from Rosario
01:05:55for the low blows, lost the fight for him.
01:05:57Absolutely, yes. Without that deduction,
01:05:59he definitely was the winner.
01:06:02Rudy Rodriguez, couldn't believe it.
01:06:28Don't give me that.
01:06:31When I lose,
01:06:33I don't know, sometimes I feel bad at the beginning.
01:06:36But then,
01:06:38then I forget about it, you know.
01:06:40I say I'll do better the next time.
01:06:42Because when you lose,
01:06:44that's telling you you're doing something wrong.
01:06:47So you learn from that.
01:06:52So I use that as an experience
01:06:54for when I turn pro.
01:07:02You don't know who you're messing with.
01:07:04You don't know if a person's going to pull out a gun or anything.
01:07:06I don't fight on the street.
01:07:08I used to do that when I was young.
01:07:10But the last time I fought on the street
01:07:12was probably when I was like 20 years old.
01:07:18That was the last time.
01:07:20That was like 11 years ago.
01:07:22Even if I was a kid,
01:07:24I run into people, you know, you get tough guys and so forth.
01:07:26But they think that I'm young and everything.
01:07:29But they don't put a hand on me
01:07:31as long as they don't touch me or anything,
01:07:33nothing will happen.
01:07:35But I know how to just, it's an art,
01:07:37you know what I'm saying, of knowing how to walk away.
01:07:39Because you know what you can do to an individual.
01:07:42It isn't that you think that you can beat the whole world,
01:07:44but you value your life.
01:07:47Because you don't know what to expect from an individual.
01:07:50When you're in the ring, it's just two men.
01:07:53And that's the art, that's the best thing about it,
01:07:55two men who you see where they stand,
01:08:00the heart they have,
01:08:03the technique, the finesse, the style,
01:08:09the charisma, all that's in the ring.
01:08:13And the people are there to see it.
01:08:15Yeah, two men in the ring.
01:08:17Now nobody can jump into nothing,
01:08:19it's just you and him.
01:08:21Now y'all are going to get it on,
01:08:23and we're going to fight,
01:08:25and we're going to talk a fight,
01:08:27and that's how it is in the ring.
01:08:33Basically I'm doing this for my family and myself,
01:08:36myself and my family.
01:08:38I just want to do things right in the future
01:08:43and continue doing things right from now until then.
01:08:50Basically that's that, you know.
01:09:00Let me ask you or anybody else that's asking these questions,
01:09:04I'm going to have a child.
01:09:07Would you rather have your child go out in the street,
01:09:10deal with drugs, throw drugs, hurt somebody,
01:09:13or get hurt himself,
01:09:15or would you rather have him in the gym
01:09:17trying to make something of himself
01:09:20and become something,
01:09:22and have somebody like a Rosario talk to him?
01:09:25That's not the way it should be, let's go the other way.
01:09:28Yeah, your son is going to get hurt.
01:09:31Yeah, my son is going to get hurt,
01:09:33my brother's going to get hurt in boxing.
01:09:35But at least he's off the streets,
01:09:37at least he's not hurting nobody else.
01:09:39It's a sport which is one-on-one.
01:09:41In my heart, if God is willing,
01:09:44and if it's meant for me,
01:09:46what I'd like to do is stay amateur,
01:09:52come in as a champion,
01:09:55and go out as a champion and become a coach.
01:09:58I would like to train other people to become champions
01:10:01and be paid for it,
01:10:03and just be recognized.
01:10:07What I like the most is throwing punches,
01:10:11getting hit, hit back,
01:10:14bobbing weave,
01:10:16stuff like that.
01:10:19And, ooh, trying to become champion always,
01:10:23be number one,
01:10:25because there only could be one king in the ring.
01:10:29That's what I like the most.
01:10:32Because there only could be one king in the ring.
01:10:47I want to be the featherweight champion in the world.
01:10:50I want to hold the IBF title.
01:10:53And I want to defend my title,
01:10:56and I want to keep fighting until I see that
01:10:58they keep stopping me,
01:11:00and I can't fight no more,
01:11:02and I'm losing,
01:11:04and then I'll stop.
01:11:06But until I keep winning, I'm winning,
01:11:08and I feel I'm good,
01:11:10and I still can move my legs and my body,
01:11:13I'm just going to keep fighting no matter how old I get.
01:11:21My little brother, he'd be fighting, I'd be nervous,
01:11:24I'd be shaking, like, hit him, hit him, watch it.
01:11:27And then when I fight, my little brother'd be nervous,
01:11:29he'd be like, hit him, ooh, man.
01:11:32I'd be screaming my lungs out for my little brother.
01:11:35And I love him a lot.
01:11:37And I know if I don't make it, he's going to make it, definitely.
01:11:40I know he's going to make it.
01:11:47It's a good feeling.
01:11:49It's a good feeling, you get in the bus,
01:11:51and the bus driver knows you,
01:11:53and you don't remember who the bus driver was.
01:11:56But you touch that bus driver.
01:12:01You were part of that bus driver's life.
01:12:05You were part of that police officer's life.
01:12:11Anything that they're into, anything that they are,
01:12:14even if they're bad,
01:12:17you try to straighten something out of them.
01:12:20Because they're not bad,
01:12:22they just went straight the other way around.
01:12:26But there was something you taught them,
01:12:28that they'd come back for you to help them.
01:12:33And you tried to help them.
01:12:36But there's some of them that you can't, but you want.
01:12:42You know, there's some that you just look at them
01:12:46and cry and have sleepless nights.
01:12:50Why did this have to happen?
01:12:53But then I sit back and say,
01:12:56well, to make a world, you got to have a little bit of everything.
01:13:00And you can't save everybody.
01:13:03I hoped to leave Harlem one day, but I would always return.
01:13:08I guess everybody in life wants to better their lives
01:13:12and have a home, have a house.
01:13:14I asked my dad one day,
01:13:16Dad, we had every opportunity to leave.
01:13:19My dad looked at me and he says,
01:13:22I know, and I know we could have left many a times,
01:13:27but you had something that all these kids don't have.
01:13:31And I said, Dad, what's that?
01:13:33He told me, you have me, you have your mother,
01:13:35and you'll always have us.
01:13:37These kids out here don't have a mother or even a father.
01:13:42So they look up to me.
01:13:44They need me.
01:13:46And I guess I was a little greedy, a little selfish.
01:13:49I'm your son. Ralphie's my brother.
01:13:52That's your son too. That's my mother.
01:13:55We want better. We want a house.
01:13:57My father says, son, you don't need a house,
01:14:00and you don't need money.
01:14:02All you need is love.
01:14:04So he kept us together with love.
01:14:16Le ghetto ne demande rien à personne.
01:14:18Personne ne demande le ghetto.
01:14:20C'est ceux qui nous contrôlent tout là-haut.
01:14:22Ils nous construisent des briques et des McDo
01:14:24pour que le ghetto reste dans le ghetto.
01:14:26I have a history of electric shock therapy,
01:14:29a chemical imbalance.
01:14:31So what you telling me? The nutcracker.
01:14:33These are the facts. I'm never faking jacks.
01:14:35I'm out here to max.
01:14:37On the air with some knowledge to share.
01:14:39Black mafia means total health care.
01:14:41The group Home and KDD all alone.
01:14:44We got it sewn, blowing up on a microphone.
01:14:46Known associations I have across the nation.
01:14:49Organizations that bring me stimulation.
01:14:51Information for a better lifestyle.
01:14:53No more drugs and guns bring a big smile.
01:14:56Bad boy, you better go to school
01:14:58because what you gonna do when they come for you, fool?
01:15:01Congratulations if you listen to the rhyme
01:15:03and stop doing crime time after time.
01:15:06Heal your mind with the words that I say.
01:15:08Erase the hate, kill KKK.
01:15:11I'm running out of time if you can't see,
01:15:13but I'll be back with more electric shock therapy.
01:15:16Le ghetto ne demande rien à personne.
01:15:18Personne ne demande le ghetto.
01:15:19C'est ceux qui nous contrôlent tout là-haut.
01:15:21Ils nous construisent des briques et des McDo
01:15:23pour que le ghetto reste dans le ghetto.
01:15:25Le ghetto ne demande rien à personne.
01:15:27Personne ne demande le ghetto.
01:15:29C'est ceux qui nous contrôlent tout là-haut.
01:15:31Ils nous construisent des briques et des McDo
01:15:33pour que le ghetto reste dans le ghetto.
01:15:35Loin des réalités, la politique est larguée.
01:15:37Bien trop occupé à s'occuper des cendres à pied.
01:15:40De plus que peut-être faire, frère,
01:15:42on n'écoute pas faire du social et faire des affaires.
01:15:45Les murs de la cité sont rompes, histoire de faire bien.
01:15:48On donne toujours la croûte, mais jamais le bain.
01:15:50À Noël, pas de sapeur, juste une lettre pour les copains.
01:15:53Direction la zone, j'envoie pas qu'elle devienne 16h.
01:15:56C'est que la justice espère guérir le mal.
01:15:58Un boss de 6 ans au coup devient un homme animal.
01:16:00La solution se trouve dans la réflexion et l'action,
01:16:03mais non pas dans leur corps de concentration.
01:16:05On calme les têtes avec des terrains de basket.
01:16:08Je pense que les mairies ont vraiment besoin de lunettes,
01:16:10car si les ghettos pètent, ça va être la fête.
01:16:12On en parlera des années, et même sur Internet.
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