- 13 years ago
In 2006 South Africa we visit the 21-year-olds we first met as children, as they manage work, race relations and family.
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00:2014 years ago, we filmed seven-year-old children all over South Africa.
00:30They were black and white, rich and poor. They came from very different communities, kept separate by apartheid.
00:39They were growing up in a country that was brutally divided, on the brink of historic social change.
00:48Seven years later, we met them again.
00:53They were 14, teenagers in a new South Africa.
01:03Now we've been back to find them at 21.
01:08The political struggle has given them opportunities that their parents were denied.
01:15They are Mandela's children.
01:22Since they were seven, their country has changed dramatically.
01:27How much have they changed with it?
01:47At seven, Willem loved his life, growing up in the heart of an Afrikaans farming belt, north of Johannesburg.
01:55Do you have friends that are on the floor?
01:59Yes.
02:00Who are they?
02:01This is Makanda, the town boy, and Willie.
02:07And what do you do together?
02:09No, Willie.
02:11Willie comes every day, even if I'm awake.
02:14Then I say, well, here's the slet, and then we're awake.
02:18What can we do together?
02:20Tell us about that.
02:22Tell us about what.
02:23We've been together together again.
02:27We've been together at the end.
02:29We have played rugby and...
02:33... and...
02:36My sister is always on the train.
02:39And when he works, he is on the train.
02:42He is on my train.
02:47He is on the train.
02:48He is a good boy.
02:52He does not drink.
03:00Soon after seven, Willem's life changed.
03:05He came from my home and went around my train.
03:09He was on my train.
03:11He was on my train.
03:12Then I fell on my train.
03:14Then I fell on my train.
03:16My mom got a lot of blood in my head.
03:21It was in the evening.
03:24We had to go to school.
03:27When we woke up, my mom came in and said,
03:29We had to sit down and say,
03:31We were at our train.
03:34Then, for a half-hour,
03:35there was a few people on the train.
03:37They didn't trust us.
03:39They said they are sad.
03:42School was there.
03:43All we know was there.
03:46How did you feel?
03:47How was jy tranerig?
03:50Yes, I had chanked.
03:54At that moment, I felt like I didn't want to do anything.
03:57I didn't want to go to school.
04:00I didn't want to say hello to someone.
04:02I didn't want to talk to someone.
04:03I didn't want to talk to someone.
04:12He was my role model in my life.
04:16He was always there.
04:17When you needed something,
04:19I didn't want to go to him.
04:25As I was older,
04:27I was happy that I had learned to know him.
04:33I tried to live my life as he was.
04:36He was proud of me.
04:40At 21, he lives in a residence
04:43at the University of Johannesburg,
04:45where he's studying sports management.
04:47He's on a rugby scholarship.
04:49His talent was already evident at 14.
04:53He explained to me.
04:54Before he got to tie it down,
05:03it's always good.
05:03It's a very bad house.
05:10It's something like he has a good start.
05:13My brother and my dad had a good chance.
05:16It's a good experience.
05:17It helps me.
05:19but I'll fix it a little bit.
05:24This is one aspect of my game that I can be proud of,
05:28so that I can give a lot of money.
05:44I think that every young man in South Africa is a dream of seeing,
05:49as he can become a springboard.
05:57But if you're good enough to become a springboard in South Africa,
06:01I believe.
06:03If this is the path that has been done for you to stop,
06:07then you will stop.
06:11I don't want to enjoy it, and if I don't have a skill,
06:14I will not show my fingers and say this,
06:16because I was not black or clothed or so.
06:21Rugby is under pressure to change its all-white profile.
06:27Is there a black child in your school?
06:30No.
06:31They come 1 August to school.
06:35But before school,
06:39in school, until the first break.
06:41If black is, after the first break,
06:43they'll say next.
06:44Why?
06:45Because we're going to do it.
06:47Why?
06:48You can go to school.
06:48You can go to school.
06:49You can go to school.
06:53You can go to school.
06:54You can go to school.
06:55You can go to school.
06:55You can go to the white people.
06:56I'm stupid.
06:57I don't know.
06:59Look, you've come to school.
07:02You've come to school.
07:04Those who are in school are very good,
07:07I didn't expect that.
07:12Willems is one of the first schools to be integrated in a compulsory directive across
07:16the country.
07:20This is where I was and this is the world where I was blind, and I was myself, I was
07:29in a practical practice.
07:30Yes, yes, yes!
07:34Yes, yes!
07:35Yes!
07:45Say for me, who is God?
07:48He is the Lord, he is our Father.
07:51And what does he do?
07:53He is a servant.
07:54for us.
08:36I want to have my own place in my house.
08:42I want to look up on a dam where I can see how the animals drink water.
08:48That's my dream, house and place.
08:55Willem still dreams of having his own farm.
09:02On the 7th, I shot my first horse, a horse and two horses.
09:08And from now on, it's just a nice, what I try to do every year, a nice stockpark.
09:15It's a nice day and it's just something that you can understand.
09:26Come on.
09:29Come on.
09:30Come on.
09:32Come on.
09:32The park.
09:33It's a little low.
09:39Are you all here?
09:41Yes.
09:42Come on.
09:44This is a competition.
09:46Yes.
09:46It's a competition.
09:48They live in the most.
09:58At 7, we found the embassy living with her grandmother in Soweto in a squatter camp.
10:03A bloody power struggle had devastated the area.
10:14The morning.
10:19Do you have a dinner?
10:24Are you friends around your house?
10:26Yes.
10:26Are you friends with us?
10:30Oh, we are friends with us.
10:32Yes, you are friends with us.
10:32Are you friends with you?
10:34Yes, we are friends with us.
10:36That's very rare.
10:36Come on.
10:36Come on.
10:36Come on.
10:40Timbasele was living with her grandmother because her mother was working six days a week in a fast food restaurant
10:47in the city.
11:21At 14, Timbasele was still yearning for a happy family.
11:43In 1999, she had returned to Soweto after some years living with family in rural KwaZulin Hotel.
11:52She was living in a two-roomed house and going to school in Soweto.
11:56At first, she felt uneasy about the area.
12:04We were living here.
12:06We were living here.
12:09We were living here.
12:09We were living here.
12:10We were living here.
12:12We were living here.
12:37We were living here in 144, in a house band.
12:44My mom is hard to tell her, what was she doing?
12:45She was stressed.
12:47How did you do that?
12:49It was so hard.
12:50Did you stress it?
12:52I was tired of getting stressed, tofu.
12:56I don't know why I am tired of the hair.
13:01I feel really angry with my god.
13:04I'll drink a spoon.
13:05I'll never get a good nap.
13:08She was shaved and she could eat all the hair in the sod.
13:16At 21, Tempesile lives on the next street in a similar house.
13:21She had employment in a restaurant for a year, but it closed down.
13:26With one in three women unemployed, it's very difficult to find work.
13:31So she takes care of her aunt's baby and keeps house.
13:35Her mother is still the only person in the family that is permanently employed, so money
13:41is tight.
13:45.
13:46.
13:46.
13:46.
13:46.
13:46.
13:47I need to close your tail.
13:49I will go to the house of school, but I can't get it.
13:52Because I recommend those old by the man,
13:55he's looking for my one-on-one.
13:57So they're safe.
14:01Because you can't be a wazoo.
14:03Clearly, right?
14:04I'm not sure.
14:04Yeah, I'm not sure.
14:05I'm not sure.
14:06I'm not sure.
14:08I'm not sure.
14:08I'm not sure.
14:11I'm not sure.
14:11Thanks to the soup.
14:13Mom, school is safe.
14:15and then your neighbor is free.
14:21It won't help us, but then you can't stop it.
14:24This was good.
14:25This is my 9th grade.
14:29And after control of 7s,
14:31I said that .
14:33The way the 4Kошels wouldn't be away.
14:34I don't know if they came to an economic activity.
14:36So, the idea is to save the��jon is happy.
14:42So they had covered everything there.
14:43Everyone can lack salvation.
14:47So, I was like, oh, you know, the way you're living.
14:53I don't care.
14:57I didn't care.
15:00I didn't care.
15:01I didn't care.
15:02I was like, oh, my dad was out.
15:04I was like, oh, my father was out there.
15:14It's a very good thing.
15:16It's a very good thing.
15:37It's a very good thing.
15:41hmm
15:43but
15:43it is cool
15:45.
15:46.
15:46.
15:46.
15:46.
15:46.
15:47South Africa?
15:48I guess.
15:49I guess?
15:50Yes.
15:51You want to come and go to the ally of South Africa?
15:55The ally of South Africa.
15:57You want to go to the ally of South Africa?
15:59What do you want?
16:00I can go.
16:17What do you want?
16:20I want to go.
16:21I'm very proud of you.
16:24I do want to go to South Africa, but I've got to start with you.
16:30Do you want to go to South Africa?
16:37Yes.
16:38Do you want to go to South Africa?
16:39Do you want to go to South Africa?
16:43Yes.
16:44If you're not going to sleep, you'll be able to sleep.
16:55When you're here, you're not going to wash your hands.
17:01When you're eating, you can't eat your babies.
17:05and I will always have to give up.
17:10Sometimes the kids are not good.
17:13I'm not going to give up.
17:15I'm not going to give up.
17:16I'm not going to give up.
17:18I'm not going to give up.
17:21I'm not going to give up.
17:39Lunger was an exceptional seven-year-old. He lived with his mother in a black Durban
17:44township and spoke perfect English with an accent from American television. When we
17:52filmed him, his grandmother had just died.
17:57What do you think happens to people when they die?
18:00There's nothing under here.
18:03So where's your grand?
18:10My guanis became bones.
18:27At 14, when we went to find him, Lunger was in hospital.
18:37I had no accent with a beer bottle on the head.
18:42When?
18:44Yesterday.
18:45Last night, actually.
18:49What's happened?
18:51It was about five to eight. I had an argument with this guy and he said he's going to beat
18:58me up and I told him to come. And while I was talking to him, one of his older friends
19:04was
19:04like behind me, hit me with a bottle. And that was consciousness. And when I came, when I
19:10woke up, I was here in the hospital. It's hot, yeah.
19:20Let's just go back to 14. Do you remember that you'd been hit over the head with a bottle?
19:27Okay, no, I forget. And my sense of that was that it had to do with jealousies.
19:35Dude, that was over a chick.
19:37But it felt like it went further than that.
19:39I don't know, because the thing is, I didn't know the guy.
19:42Until this day, I don't know what he looks like.
19:46We could laugh about it in the end, but I guess maybe it went deeper than that. I don't
19:50know. It just happened. I was none the wiser before or after.
20:06When he was seven, Lunga got the opportunity to go to a mostly white state school in the
20:11suburbs.
20:13Do you like going to school with white people?
20:17Actually, my first time I was shied.
20:21You were what?
20:22Shied.
20:24You were shy?
20:25Yeah.
20:26Why?
20:28Scared. I couldn't speak English.
20:33I thought, everybody want to laugh at me and quack and gack and gack and gack
20:39thought I was going to be the only black kid in my classroom, but that didn't happen.
20:45And you were scared of being one black kid amongst white kids?
20:49Oh, whites. Yeah, that's what I was sure of.
21:04None of my parents and my uncles could have gone to the kind of schools I've been yet.
21:08When they were young, going to a school with white people, it was like, I'm never ever going
21:17to a black school anymore.
21:20I'm good wherever I go, because it's still the same guys that you met during the 14th.
21:24Most of them are still there.
21:26We've all grown up a little.
21:28Some have kids now, so, you know, there's a lot of things to factor in.
21:32For me, it's a matter of what language am I speaking.
21:35I'm not getting a job with you.
21:39I'm not getting a job with you.
21:40I'm not getting a job with you.
21:42What kind of thing is that?
21:45I'm not getting a job with you.
21:45Woooo!
21:46Where are you?
21:49At 21, Lunga lives in Johannesburg.
21:53His views about race have always been complex.
21:57You see, if you're black and you were married to a white person, you let her, you are
22:04Ask her where she wants to live.
22:06Why?
22:08Of course, she's white.
22:09She likes to live with white people, you see?
22:14I would want to go to a black towel shop,
22:16but she wouldn't understand the language I speak
22:20when I'm at home.
22:21That's why.
22:24So do you think you'll end up marrying a white person?
22:27Maybe.
22:29Would you like that?
22:31Oh, I love it!
22:41Now he's at a university which is mostly black,
22:45and is studying human resources,
22:47where Black Economic Empowerment, BEE, is on the curriculum.
22:53The purpose of BEE that I know is to provide
22:57people who have previously disadvantaged opportunities
23:01to start their own business.
23:03Any different perspective? Yes, sir.
23:06Are you engaging with your course at university?
23:11Yeah, no, it's...
23:12Like I told my mother, like, see, the day I walk into class
23:15and they talk for an hour and I walk out of there feeling nothing,
23:18I will quit and change courses.
23:20So, in that sense, I'm all right, because I still walk in there and go.
23:24I needed to know that.
23:41Lunger lives near the center of Johannesburg in an area called Yovo.
23:47You're over this, like, kaleidoscope of people.
23:51Anybody from everywhere, from anywhere you'll find.
23:57I think all those rooms are barbershops.
24:00I've only had my hair cut in the second one and that one.
24:06But that guy messed up my trim, so I ain't going back.
24:11If anything happens to you here, people don't like you.
24:14I mean, there's so many people.
24:16Who's honestly gonna mess around with you?
24:18And people still sort of stick together around here.
24:21Nothing's gonna happen to you that shouldn't.
24:23Unless you had it coming.
24:26Okay.
24:27Okay.
24:28Only in Yovo.
24:29Got it short shorts.
24:32Only in Yovo than a Tuesday.
24:49In 2004, Lunger spent a year in Germany as an exchange student.
24:55Where he became very close to his host family.
25:01It was weird living with a man.
25:03Like, having a father in the house.
25:05But he was really, really cool.
25:07What do you mean, weird?
25:09I've lived with my mother my whole life.
25:11You know, I'm 21.
25:14So it has been me, my mother and my siblings.
25:16So, like, the first two weeks, I'd wake up in the morning,
25:19I open the door and this guy's like, Guten Morgen.
25:21And I'm like, and you are again.
25:23Hello.
25:24Hello.
25:25Lunger still keeps in close touch with them all.
25:27Hey.
25:28Yeah.
25:28Yeah.
25:29It's like a lovely wish.
25:31I wrote an email.
25:33Have you seen it?
25:33Uh, no.
25:35It's been last week.
25:36It's been the last time I've looked at my emails.
25:39Yeah.
25:39Yeah.
25:39And it's just...
25:40I have to send my dad a photo from my friend.
25:43He wants a photo.
25:45My name is Kim.
25:47I told you about the last time I had two girlfriends.
25:52Kim and Laura.
25:53Now I got one.
25:54How do you define a woman that you'd be interested in?
25:58She has to make me laugh.
26:00A lot.
26:02Tolerate my nonsense because I have lots.
26:05And my propensity to not call every once in a while.
26:15She must make me smile when she comes around the corner.
26:18That's pretty much it.
26:20And what do you and Kim do together?
26:23Spend a lot of time.
26:34If you were to describe yourself, what would first come to mind?
26:39Obnoxious.
26:41Obnoxious?
26:42Eccentric.
26:43Sometimes loud.
26:45Always talking.
26:48Never at a loss for words.
26:50This involves women.
26:54Yeah.
26:55And I like people.
26:56That's pretty much it.
27:05I actually pay attention to what my friends say.
27:08I mean, the stuff we do.
27:10We all listen to the same type of music.
27:13We like the same type of movies.
27:17We all wear the same type of clothes.
27:20But, like, being part of a group is important to you, right?
27:23Yeah, sort of.
27:26It means, like, sense of belonging.
27:29Learning that you belong to these people.
27:43So, at this moment, I mean, do you feel like the world is at your feet?
27:49I mean, yeah, I guess, you know.
27:52Because I can do whatever I want.
27:54You know, as long as it makes me happy and I enjoy doing it, then I can do it.
27:58There's not a lot standing in between me and doing what I want to do.
28:02So, I guess, in that sense, yeah, it's all up to me.
28:06If I don't do what I want to do, I've got no one to blame but myself.
28:10So, I guess, in that sense, yeah, it is.
28:21At seven, Lisette lived in Petersburg, a town in the north of the country.
28:26We interviewed her with her boyfriend, Tini.
28:29Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:32I'm going to go back to the world.
28:34I'm going to look at the world of the Lord.
28:39If that's what's wrong, it will be done.
28:44He'll give his heart to his heart.
28:48What does this mean?
28:51Shoo, I'm going to ask you.
28:53What's nice?
28:55How did you choose to do with each other?
28:59That's how nice.
29:08at 14 they went to the same high school in the same town their relationship seemed to be in
29:22trouble in seven years time shall we come to a milk bar again do you think things might have been
29:34resolved between you you might be together again I wouldn't count on it playful
29:45you seem a bit strange together now yeah I think I broke his heart too many times
29:56what do you think about marriage that's cool thing cool yeah that's all right I mean when you're like
30:0420 21 I mean I'm 14 what the heck would I want to get married for
30:13at 21 Lisette has moved to Cape Town at the southern tip of the country she's married to
30:20Greg and they're expecting a baby that is Greg waiting for me patiently well he doesn't look so
30:29patient because I was half an hour late because I was finished and everybody else was still running
30:35around trying to get finished there I finally arrived at Seven Wacht I said I'll marry I don't know how
30:46I
30:46don't know when but I will marry you someday in the not too distant future this is the very first
30:51very
30:51first night 45 minutes into the discussion there was just something we just clicked there was just
30:57something between the two of us and she still joked about it and said we'll talk about it when you
31:03bring a ring we dated for about three months yeah and then you went up to see my parents that's
31:22right
31:28yeah my dad was kind of shocked because he was the only person in the last didn't know what was
31:32going on my dad just looked at him and he said well if you think you can handle it and
31:39that was pretty
31:39much what my dad said if you think you can handle it you also gave me some advice though yeah
31:48the
31:49advice was buy a whole 25 litre drum of calming pills and hopefully that'll get you through it to
31:56yourself for myself yeah yeah thanks dad that was really nice yeah but strangely enough to family accepted
32:07me from the minute we arrived there it's gotta be newborn no that's bigger than the ones we've got
32:14at home they're bigger than the ones we've already bought okay okay listen poo can we fly too it's so
32:25cute
32:31did you kind of mutually agree that to have a child so soon was it like something you both wanted
32:37or it
32:39was something we wanted but it wasn't something we wanted right now um yeah it just sort of happened
32:48here's the little face she's getting a bit shy she's turning her back on us
32:58she's saying don't you care i want to sleep
33:03we only found out that it happened after what how far was that eight weeks
33:08yeah nine weeks after being horribly sick and i feel like i'm gonna die and eventually greg says
33:15okay now stuff this we're going to the doctor get to the doctor he says um mrs jester you're not
33:21pregnant you're very pregnant i said oh that's nice so yeah it wasn't exactly planned as such but
33:30i'm just fat you swallowed a soccer ball right now i would say i've got pretty much in my opinion
33:43a perfect life i've got a great husband we've got food at night we've got petrol in the car
33:50but i'm bored out of my brackets at home
33:59six o'clock already i was just in the middle of a dream
34:06i was kissing valentina by a crystal blue italian stream
34:11thought of living your life as a housewife is what i said no housewife no housewife
34:18how do you cope with boredom how do i cope with boredom i've learned to read
34:23i used to hate reading and i've learned that reading makes time go by very quickly
34:29so i now love to read i read a lot
34:38sleep late get up have breakfast watch some television read eat some more eat some more
34:50and then some more i do cook occasionally but greg doesn't really want me to he wants me to stay
34:57off my feet as much as possible so let's just do what my husband says let's stay off my feet
35:04all's not well could be better and then i called my husband and i quickly said to him life at
35:10seven was so much less complicated
35:18greg and lizette have bought a house in cape town
35:22the average age in this area is from about 30 onwards
35:28good economic growth for the house that we've bought etc
35:32very very good friendly kind neighbors always there to lend a hand
35:36a lot of old people what do you do for fun um fun fun fun fun go across the road
35:45that's a lot of fun
35:46turns out to be very interesting sometimes you learn new things
35:52i mean the more beer you drink the cleverer you get
35:56you kind of tend to know a lot of things that you normally wouldn't know
36:01keep going wide go
36:03go boys
36:05no i don't know it's just sometimes our conversations really go very deep
36:11for some reason sometimes we'll start a conversation it'll just really
36:16get you thinking you'd be like you see but wow
36:19wow that's what we do for fun and i read for fun
36:43as rare as snow in africa at 21 katlerko is something of a special case
37:00that's what we're going to do for fun and we're going to do for fun and we're going to do
37:03for fun
37:03when he was seven he went to a private school for boys
37:09his dad was a football superstar and wanted the best for his son
37:15i really admire my dad i just think he's such a great person
37:19he's gone from nowhere just living like in the streets of soweto just playing soccer
37:25just down the streets to all the way just living yeah
37:28with every start in life katlerko's dad was expecting more he's always kind of medically
37:34sacrificed quite a bit you know for me to go to school um good school not just any school
37:41so he's always kind of i don't like to sort of remind me about it you know just now then
37:46when i
37:46step out of line he's like hey remember i did this for you you know so come on at least
37:51return the
37:52favor in some sort of way katlerko has dropped out of university and instead is working at a joinery
37:59company this is basically the guy sorting out the rails just cutting them into size
38:04it's extremely dusty around here sawdust everywhere katlerko's best friend from school
38:09is matthew the boss's son
38:15it was the most expensive school in johannesburg and was steeped in european culture
38:20what languages do you speak certainly but i don't really know it very well
38:28do you know english better because every time
38:35i always speak english that's why i don't even know my language properly how do you feel about that all
38:49right
38:50with the move from soweto katlerko made a new set of white school friends
39:01at 21 it's this circle of friends that his schooling has given him
39:07it's like it's like reading oh is he on hard rock yeah he's on hard rock
39:12have you ruined his life
39:18he hasn't
39:18it's a good little bit of labor just sort of seen on that break
39:32generally i pretty much have the same core of friends that i've had since
39:36i think started seven they probably my closest friends who are twice as often as possible
39:43and were these people that were at school with you all of them pretty much from school
39:47yeah i mean even matthew i went to school with matthew and just kind of brainstormed to know the guys
39:52that i know now you know but i still back in joeburg they still in the core will always be
39:57probably
39:58my best friends that i've ever had okay are we ready one breathe in
40:15do you have a girlfriend no would you like to have one
40:26um well don't have a girlfriend at the moment so if that's what you're asking
40:31um yeah that's that's it really that is the story do you want to get married when you grow up
40:38i'll see okay i want to it's bound to happen why do you think that i don't know i can't
40:46be alone for
40:46the rest of my life shame don't be sad that all happened what sort of wife would you like
40:59she has to be short i don't know i have this short girl fetish craze thing you know so i
41:05don't know
41:06that's the first thing that pop into mind and just as soon as i see a shortcut i'm just wow
41:09you know
41:12with or without a degree his prospects have soared under black economic empowerment
41:17a drive that propels black people into management everything except that one that was ac doors
41:26my dad needed a be representative and he just fitted the mold
41:32so i don't really do anything i'm just a name
41:36when people come and ask who's that guy my dad says no he's our be partner and then they want
41:41to
41:41deal with us yeah it's hard work nowadays in the business field
41:49didn't really do anything for the first month didn't know what i was supposed to do
41:53but yeah now i'm not part of project management really um helping out in production so it's very cool
42:01so you're just going to take us through it right now
42:05it's very weird young guy not really knowing the industry and having to go in
42:10and start telling them what to do because if this needs to be done and that needs to be done
42:15so it's very weird in terms of how i have to talk to them because you know whole respect your
42:19elders
42:20thing
42:23so it's not what i say to them but how i say it
42:27you have any sort of authority in the firm i'd like to think so yeah yeah i'd like to think
42:32i have
42:32some authority yeah godfrey this is godfrey he's from he's from the arts department you know anything
42:43that has any sort of arch in it he can manufacture it he can do it he's the head of
42:47his department
42:47which is very very cool say hi what do you think the difference is between black people and white people
43:13and i think that's all i could say good i don't know which is the best group now we'll try
43:18the group
43:19with the one the blindest christ
43:26i think there's a value in the network yeah definitely it's all about networking actually
43:31you know i mean so many old johannians go out into the world and just go be corporate leaders or
43:38whatever or just whatever sort of the field that they do they usually excel and through that just
43:44network with everyone else in the rest of the world so it's definitely all about networking
43:53you can have friends whenever you want by being just what you are don't bother about the brother
44:02who bugs you just love him and he'll love you too the end
44:10i'm still trying to find my place trying to see where i fit in to the whole picture
44:16yeah oh true we've just come back from sight dude come now
44:24hey captain what's up captain how are you doing um you finished idea no i'm gonna do no
44:32but i was waiting for you this afternoon i don't know where the hell you were we were on site
44:36yeah
44:37i know but you should have told me that this morning i told yourself that we're going to do it
44:41you're going to get a disciplinary i'm telling you on your last warning i'm going to fire your ass
44:47since he's how many months you've been here it's a year no eight eight months eight eight
44:53he's eight months it's actually very calm he's very collected he listens he gets goes about doing it
44:59what can i say
45:04that's santum that's vincent's pa and you know chris we're sharing a desk at the moment because
45:12he's supposed to be redesigning our office and he hasn't done it yet i haven't done it it's in
45:17production yeah he's been saying that for the past week or so very cool very relaxed vibe
45:23everyone with laptops around just messing around working actually i should say yeah yeah you're working
45:28working you mess around we work exactly exactly i mean do you have a plan for your future yeah i'd
45:35like to think i have a plan i'd like to think i have a plan but there's always something else
45:39this comes and sidetracks me and then it's like oh wait hold on let me do that and it's like
45:42hold on
45:43i had a plan and then i have to get back realign myself and focus with that role is usually
45:48done my
45:48my parents what is their plan for you at the moment oh ideally for them um i reckon they would
45:55have
45:55loved it if i'd already graduated already you know with a degree working in a nice little corporate
46:00company sort of a vibe i mean i think that's what they would like you know so get your life
46:06together
46:06and i'm like no my life is getting together and you know i can't just i mean this is how
46:13it's worked
46:14out and let's just live with it and it's not like i'm saying you know screw university or whatever
46:20i still plan to get my degree still am going to get my degree but just at my own time
46:25and yeah
46:26they must just accept that i am still making an effort to kind of do things the way that they
46:31would like it but at the same time i'm kind of having fun along the way of doing it you
46:36know
46:37it's all about the journey yeah it's all about the journey you can't have a boring journey really
46:42i have to make it funny that's my baby that's my baby mom brought me up that way and now
47:07she's
47:07complaining that i am exactly like her and the prayer royal was drug induced drug induced
47:15i went out with a few new people one night and i just thought that that somebody had died but
47:20i
47:21didn't know exactly who
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