00:00...administration steps up ice raids and mass deportations.
00:03One tech developer is pushing back with an app designed to track ice activity in real time.
00:09It's called IceBlock, and it's controversial, to say the least.
00:12Senator Claire Duffy is with us now.
00:15How does this work, Claire, and what are the legal implications?
00:20Yeah, John, I talked with Joshua Aaron, who is the longtime tech worker who developed this platform,
00:25and he said he really wants it to be an early warning system for people about the location,
00:30of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Officers.
00:32So he says he does not want people interfering with those officers' activity,
00:37but he does want people to be able to avoid them altogether if they want.
00:41So you open the app, it looks like a map, and users can tap the map to report an ice
00:46sighting in their area,
00:47and then everybody who uses the platform within five miles of that sighting will get a push alert.
00:52This is a free iPhone app. It is anonymous. Aaron says he doesn't collect any user data.
00:57And what I think is really interesting about this in this moment is we've seen so many of the biggest
01:02leaders in tech
01:03supporting President Trump, but Aaron is sort of an example of the fact that there are people within the tech
01:08industry
01:09who are really resistant to Trump's policies.
01:11I asked him what he would say to those tech leaders who, for example, were at the inauguration.
01:16Here's what he told me. Take a listen.
01:20I understand that you have shareholders to report to.
01:23I understand that you have employees that need their paychecks.
01:26But at what point do you say enough is enough?
01:32And, John, I should say that ICE did not respond when I asked them about this platform
01:36and about Aaron's opposition to their activity.
01:38Thank you.
