00:00You were born in the Philippines, raised in Sarawak, became an athlete in the United States.
00:04Yeah, road job, man.
00:06I'm true Malaysian. Confused.
00:08What brought you back here?
00:10What brought me back was the opportunity to make a difference.
00:14You mean the first time or second time? As a sportsman?
00:17Anything, anything, brother.
00:19As a sportsman, obviously, I had a Malaysian passport. I had the opportunity, right?
00:24So for 15 years of my life, until Azizu came around, I had no competition.
00:28I'm automatic. All I have to do is qualify, which is hard, because you have to be of the world
00:35standard to qualify a small country.
00:38So actually, to qualify, you actually have to be a real hitter.
00:42The way the system works is if you're for a small country, you're definitely at least an outside chance for
00:48a medal at the Olympics.
00:50So, okay, I proved myself.
00:53There's benefits to being a big fish in a smaller pond, right?
01:00That's so honest and so true.
01:02It's benefits.
01:02So with all that knowledge, it's just that, for me, from the outside, because I come from the world of
01:08media, right?
01:09It's like, why aren't we tapping into these things?
01:11Because he's come through a system whereby it worked for him in his favor, not being chosen, if that makes
01:19sense.
01:20Politics.
01:21Okay, I didn't want to say that, because I still live here.
01:25We all still live here.
01:26I still want to live here.
01:27We know, like, look, the reality is it's part of being a human in not, it's not only Malaysia, right?
01:40It's other countries, too.
01:41Yeah, 100%.
01:42So it's being a human.
01:45Politics will always play a role.
01:47I mean, look at the United States of America.
01:49It's a mess, right?
01:51It's a mess.
01:52I don't even want to go there.
01:53My whole family are American, are living there, except for me, I think.
01:57And they call themselves world champions, so, you know.
02:00That's American.
02:01Yeah.
02:01That's American.
02:02They're really good at marketing.
02:03Like I said, I used to work for ESPN.
02:06You know how good the marketing is.
02:08Yeah, 100%.
02:09It's amazing.
02:14It's amazing.
