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Europe Today: Israele vota sul futuro di Netanyahu, Orbán in corsa per la guida Onu

Gli israeliani votano oggi nelle prime elezioni dal 7 ottobre, con il futuro di Netanyahu in bilico. Washington proporrebbe Orbán come segretario generale ONU. Intervistiamo il commissario UE al Clima Hoekstra su cosa significhi la rielezione di Lula per l’Europa.

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00:12Good morning, it's Tuesday, October 27th.
00:16You're watching Euronews and this is Europe Today.
00:20Our top stories.
00:22About 7.3 million Israelis are called to the polls today to elect a new parliament.
00:27It's the first nationwide election since the Hamas-led attack more than three years ago
00:32and the ensuing war in the Gaza Strip.
00:35The vote is shaping up to be a referendum on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
00:39who has been in power for practically three decades.
00:43Recent opinion polls suggest that neither Netanyahu's Likud bloc nor the opposition alliance
00:48is on track to secure a majority in the Knesset.
00:51European leaders have hailed Brazilian President Lula da Silva's re-election for a fourth term,
00:58defying predictions of a right-wing surge in Latin America's most populous country
01:02and securing a key ally for the EU.
01:06European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Antonio Costa
01:11were among the first to congratulate Lula,
01:14with whom they worked closely to secure the EU-Marcosur trade deal.
01:18And Trump administration officials are advocating the nomination of former Hungarian Prime Minister
01:25Viktor Orban for the post of UN Secretary General, according to the Wall Street Journal.
01:31The newspaper reports that Orban could be a joint US, Russian and Chinese candidate
01:36and that sources in all three countries have confirmed Trump is backing his bid.
01:42Orban lost power in Hungary's parliamentary election in April
01:45and has only rarely been seen in public ever since.
01:49Welcome to the program, I'm Stefan Grobe.
01:53Israel heads to the polls today in what is already seen as one of its most consequential elections in years.
02:00It's the country's first national vote since the Hamas-led attacks of the 7th of October 2023
02:06and comes after three years of war, growing political divisions
02:11and mounting questions over Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's leadership.
02:16But could the outcome reshape not only Israel's political future,
02:20but also the balance of power across the Middle East and its relations with the wider world?
02:25To talk about all this, I'm now joined by our correspondent, Sasha Vakulina.
02:29Good morning, Sasha.
02:31So, is this essentially a referendum on Benjamin Netanyahu?
02:35In a nutshell, yes.
02:37But Stefan, let's face it, every election is a referendum to the sitting government
02:41and the sitting Prime Minister.
02:43But of course, in Israel, this vote carries particular weight.
02:47Now, covering this election and in the run-up to the vote today,
02:51I've heard every description of this vote from the experts and the politicians in Israel.
02:56They called it pivotal, they called it crucial, they called it the most consequential,
03:00which gives you an idea on how important the vote is, of course,
03:04and what is at stake for Israel, for the region and for the global politics as well.
03:09Now, the turnout is expected to be very high.
03:12Reportedly, at least 70,000 people have flown to Israel to cause their votes from abroad.
03:18So, you have this big anticipation happening.
03:21Netanyahu is, of course, as you said, Israel's longest-serving Prime Minister
03:26and the voters are being asked to assess and to judge on his leadership,
03:30specifically after the Hamas-led attack of the 7th of October, 2023,
03:36and also the wars that have followed afterwards.
03:38Now, Netanyahu, according to the latest polls,
03:41he is in near neck-and-neck race with former military chief Gadi Ezenkot for the Prime Minister job.
03:48Now, Gadi Ezenkot is seen as one of the leaders of this election campaign.
03:54But, you know, for Israel, a lot comes to security, of course,
03:59and for Netanyahu, he will be judged on those aspects.
04:03And, you know, on all these conflicts on multiple fronts for Israeli government,
04:09on its stake on Gaza, on its stake on Occupied West Bank,
04:11and the tensions there, and, of course, on Lebanon,
04:14and now the Israel and the U.S. war and Iran,
04:18and the possible escalation that we have been hearing over the past couple of days,
04:23that it might renew the tensions there.
04:26And then, of course, the investigation that never took place on the October 7th.
04:30Zazia, you mentioned October 7th several times.
04:33Is this date still the defining issue of this election campaign?
04:37Very much so.
04:37Even today, on the voting day, the people and the families of the October 7th hostages
04:43and the victims are gathering at the so-called hostage square,
04:47what they call vote for accountability.
04:49This is very much a big issue for Israeli society and the voters.
04:52They want to have this independent investigation.
04:56The investigation that did not take place,
04:58because for them it's all about the responsibility and the accountability,
05:00and who is going to be responsible for what is widely seen
05:06as the biggest security failure in Israel's history, Stefan.
05:09We're talking about 1,200 people killed in one day, 251 hostages,
05:14and this is something that Israelis, the voters, do need answers for.
05:19And this is what I discussed with Yossi Mekelberg,
05:21an associate fellow and the professor at Chatham House, earlier.
05:25The one demand that unites all the opposition,
05:28and I suspect mainly from the coalition as well,
05:33or those who support the coalition,
05:35it's a state commission of inquiry.
05:38It's impossible in a democracy,
05:40when such a failure that cost a life,
05:43in one day, 1,200 people were kicked,
05:46that there is no state commission, an independent one,
05:49to ask all the right questions,
05:52not only to find who's to blame,
05:54but also how to prevent it in the future.
05:57The more the government rejects the idea,
06:00the more people are suspicious that they have something to hide.
06:04Professor, could the change of government bring,
06:07let's say, a meaningful shift in Israel's policy towards Gaza,
06:12towards the West Bank,
06:13and now also towards the war and the possible escalation
06:17of Israel-U.S. war on Iran?
06:20A new government will bring change
06:22if it's formed by the opposition parties.
06:27What we'll have to look after a government is forming
06:31is the trajectory in which direction a new government is taking.
06:36When it comes to the Israel democracy,
06:38I think it's a big question
06:40whether in parties that represent
06:43a Palestinian citizen of Israel,
06:47only as the Arab parties are going to be included
06:49in such a government.
06:53If it cooperates more with the Board of Peace
06:55when it comes to Gaza,
06:57negotiate with the Lebanese government
07:00on funding security,
07:03but also beyond this arrangement in Lebanon
07:05that Israel can withdraw,
07:06there's so many issues.
07:08And of course, the core issue is the Palestinian issue.
07:12If a two-state solution is not going to happen overnight,
07:15but if we start seeing steps towards
07:19is the harshness and oppressive nature of the occupation
07:23towards a political solution?
07:26There is growing speculation
07:27about the renewed military action against Iran
07:31after the U.S. mid-term elections on the 3rd of November.
07:34How realistic do you see that prospect?
07:37And would a change of government in Israel
07:39make any meaningful difference to this approach?
07:43If there is a new government,
07:45one would expect to reconsider
07:47if the only way to move forward
07:49is by using military force.
07:52It's also a week after the election in Israel,
07:59the mid-term in the United States,
08:01and between the two it can determine
08:04whether the war with Mirania resumed or not.
08:07That there is no new government in Israel
08:10the day after the election.
08:11It might take weeks and months,
08:13and in the time in between,
08:15Netanyahu is in the government
08:17as an interim government
08:19with exactly the same composition
08:22of the government,
08:24and at the same time,
08:26do not elect it
08:27with all the power including to go to war.
08:30It makes it more volatile and more dangerous.
08:34Do you see Netanyahu trying to push
08:37for another attack on Iran
08:38after the U.S. mid-term elections?
08:41I think we're entitled to be suspicious
08:44of the real motivation of Netanyahu
08:47because these policies are very much
08:49intertwined with this corruption trial
08:52and retaining power.
08:54So creating a crisis
08:56is not beyond the realm of possibility,
09:00including with Iran.
09:02At the same time,
09:03in such a volatile regions,
09:06such as the Middle East,
09:07with so many fronts still open,
09:09you can manufacture crisis in different places.
09:15Sascha Vakulina speaking to Yossi Mekkelberg.
09:18Thank you very much.
09:20And now to something completely different,
09:22and for this,
09:22we come back to Brussels.
09:24The EU's climate chief,
09:26Robke Huckstra,
09:27sat down with our Europe editor,
09:29Maria Tadeo,
09:30as the European Commission prepares new rules
09:33requiring member states
09:34to put climate resilience plans in place
09:36following a devastating summer
09:38of wildfires across Europe.
09:41Let's take a look.
09:42Well, we do congratulate him.
09:44And of course,
09:45with any democratically elected government,
09:48we will always work together.
09:50What is true is that
09:52with this specific government,
09:54and particularly also myself
09:55with Minister Marina da Silva,
09:58we have worked exceptionally well together
09:59in the domain of international climate diplomacy,
10:03in the domain of carbon markets.
10:05And the Brazilians have done a lot of work
10:08in terms of maintaining the rainforest,
10:11which is something that is hugely important for them,
10:14but frankly speaking,
10:15for all of us.
10:16And let's talk about today,
10:17because you are presenting a climate package.
10:21We understand it will include also a piece of legislation.
10:24Tell us what's in it
10:26and what differences is going to make.
10:28Because obviously,
10:28if you connect the dots,
10:29this is, I presume,
10:30coming largely in response to the major wildfires.
10:32Maybe you need first about that.
10:34Why?
10:35Because this was an absolutely horrible summer
10:38with dramatic impact
10:40in terms of people who have lost their lives,
10:43in terms of livelihoods being destroyed,
10:45houses being demolished,
10:47and areas just have been burned down.
10:50And the economic impact has been north of 100 billion.
10:54And yet,
10:55even though this was the hottest ever,
10:57if you and I look back
10:58in, let's say,
10:59another 10 years,
11:00it probably will have been the coolest
11:02of the upcoming decade.
11:04So there's a huge imperative
11:05to not only continue with mitigation,
11:08electrification,
11:09but also stand on that other lack
11:11of resilience and adaptation.
11:13And to that point,
11:14what are you going to be presenting?
11:15In just a few hours from now,
11:16what are you going to be presenting?
11:17We're also going to come up with legislation
11:19where we make it mandatory
11:21to point out in your government,
11:24whether it is local,
11:25or regional or national,
11:26who is responsible?
11:27That's a new element in this package.
11:29Indeed.
11:30And the last thing you would want as a citizen
11:33after your area or your house
11:36has been demolished
11:37because of a wildfire or a flood
11:39is see politicians,
11:41you know,
11:41who are fighting about
11:43who actually was responsible.
11:44How are you going to enforce that?
11:46Because one of the things
11:46that we saw over the summer
11:47was a lot of political bickering.
11:49Because we're putting this into legislation.
11:51And how do you enforce it?
11:51It is exactly because of what you were just saying,
11:54that this is one of the things
11:56that has gone wrong in the past
11:58that we're going to change it.
11:59I'll give you another element
12:00that we're changing also in the legislation.
12:03We want to make sure
12:04that the climate scenarios
12:06are being taken into account
12:08when you build a new bridge
12:10or a new neighborhood
12:12or a new road.
12:14Because it matters
12:15if you prepare for the climate
12:17as it used to be 10 years ago,
12:19or whether you prep
12:21for what is ahead of us.
12:23But will you have a reference number?
12:25Are you looking at,
12:27is it a two degrees?
12:28Is it a three degrees?
12:29What does this number look like?
12:31If you're looking for a reference number,
12:33it would be the three.
12:34Okay.
12:34Three degrees.
12:35Even though we do want to make sure
12:38we're also flexible
12:39because no one knows exactly
12:42what the future holds.
12:44And whatever we do,
12:46we're going to base it on
12:47the best available sign.
12:48What about the money?
12:49Where is this adaptation?
12:50How do you finance it?
12:51Because I hear also
12:52the European Parliament
12:53tax the energy companies.
12:55They are making a killer
12:57out of energy prices going up.
12:59Put a windfall tax
13:00as soon as possible.
13:01They should pay.
13:02Should they pay?
13:05Complicated question.
13:06And it is something
13:08that national governments
13:08can already do.
13:09But are you in favor?
13:10What I'm in favor
13:13is doing something that works.
13:14And we know that windfall profits
13:16can be hunted down
13:18by national governments.
13:19The reality is that
13:21at a European level,
13:22you can only do that
13:23if all 27 agree.
13:25And we're not there yet.
13:29Maria Thaddeus speaking
13:31to EU Climate Commissioner
13:32Wapke Hoekstra.
13:34Now, Hungary's former
13:35Prime Minister Viktor Orban
13:37might be in the running
13:38for the top job
13:39with the United Nations,
13:41at least according
13:42to the Wall Street Journal.
13:43The US newspaper reported
13:45that Washington is floating
13:47the idea of nominating Orban
13:48for the post of UN Secretary General
13:51with the support
13:52of Russia and China.
13:54Our Hungary correspondent,
13:55Sandor Szyrosz,
13:57is joining me in the studio
13:58now to discuss this story.
14:00Good morning, Sandor.
14:00Good morning, Stefan.
14:01So, what the heck
14:03is going on here?
14:03When I first heard
14:05about it yesterday,
14:05I thought it was a joke.
14:07Well, me too, actually.
14:09And it's a quite crazy
14:10and surreal story,
14:11to be honest.
14:12I was very much surprised
14:13yesterday when I first heard it
14:15because, simply,
14:17Orban is one of the most
14:19divisive politicians
14:20of Europe.
14:21He is very controversial.
14:24He was considered in Europe
14:26largely as a troublemaker,
14:28not someone who is a bridge builder
14:30or who would make consensus.
14:33But this story is not completely
14:35without logic, I would say,
14:37because, you know,
14:38Orban had very close ties
14:39to Trump, to Putin,
14:40to Xi Jinping.
14:42So, I could imagine
14:43these three major powers
14:45supporting him
14:46for the candidacy.
14:48And there is an additional element
14:50because, you know,
14:51the current Hungarian authorities
14:52are going after very hardly
14:55former Orban-era politicians
14:57related to corruption issues.
15:00Two former Orban-era ministers
15:02are jailed now
15:03for fraud and corruption.
15:04Also, the former governor
15:06of the Hungarian National Bank
15:09is jailed now.
15:10for fraud.
15:12And, you know,
15:13many people are speculating
15:14maybe Orban is next.
15:16So, the thinking might be
15:17that with a top UN job
15:19he might get immunity,
15:21diplomatic immunity,
15:22which might be
15:23very handy for him.
15:25And honestly,
15:26after this huge electoral defeat
15:28in Hungary this April,
15:30he is, according to many people
15:32inside his Fidesz party,
15:35he is looking for a way out
15:37from the Hungarian politics.
15:38so this could be eventually
15:39a way forward for him.
15:41Yeah, I see where this is going.
15:43I mean, my question is,
15:45is there a real chance
15:47he could end up with a top job?
15:49Well, that's a very good question.
15:51Honestly, I don't think so,
15:52but we will have to see.
15:54Nevertheless,
15:55one diplomat talking to
15:56the Wall Street Journal
15:58said that, you know,
15:59this idea sounds crazy,
16:01but when these three superpowers
16:03are lining up
16:04behind somebody,
16:06then this candidate
16:07could have a good chance.
16:09We will have to see.
16:10But on the substance,
16:12how this process will go,
16:15all of the permanent members
16:17of the UN's National Security Council
16:19have vetoes.
16:21And I don't see, like,
16:22France or the United Kingdom
16:25would approve Orban,
16:27who has a very bad track record
16:29when it comes to dealing
16:31with those two countries.
16:33So eventually,
16:34we will have to see.
16:35I don't know.
16:36But in itself,
16:38that if Trump
16:39and Xi Jinping
16:40and, you know,
16:42Putin is thinking about
16:43changing how the UN
16:45looks like completely
16:47and putting forward
16:48the name of Orban,
16:49who is really a divisive figure,
16:52to change the United Nations,
16:55this is a message in itself
16:57saying that,
16:58OK, we need to get rid
16:59of the United Nations
17:01as citizens
17:01to do something
17:02completely different.
17:04Yeah.
17:05What a story.
17:06You know what, Sander?
17:07I think you and I
17:08should be considered first here.
17:09Well, I would go for you.
17:12Thank you very much, Sander,
17:13for your reporting.
17:14And that's it for today.
17:16Thank you for watching.
17:18I'm Stefan Grobe
17:19and I see you tomorrow.
17:30and I see you tomorrow.
17:55and I see you tomorrow.
18:35and I see you tomorrow.
18:55and I see you tomorrow.
19:42Grazie a tutti.
19:55Grazie a tutti.

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