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Europe Today: Kallas im Euronews-Exklusivinterview zum Start des EU-Gipfels
Kaja Kallas, EU-Chefdiplomatin, spricht exklusiv mit Maria Tadeo, als Staats- und Regierungschefs zum Brüsseler Gipfel über Energiepreise, Haushalt und Trumps Druck auf die Ukraine eintreffen. Außerdem Interview mit Jordaniens Investitionsminister Abu Abughazaleh.
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Kaja Kallas, EU-Chefdiplomatin, spricht exklusiv mit Maria Tadeo, als Staats- und Regierungschefs zum Brüsseler Gipfel über Energiepreise, Haushalt und Trumps Druck auf die Ukraine eintreffen. Außerdem Interview mit Jordaniens Investitionsminister Abu Abughazaleh.
LESEN SIE MEHR : http://de.euronews.com/2026/10/15/europe-today-kallas-im-euronews-exklusivinterview-zum-start-des-eu-gipfels
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00:01Untertitelung des ZDF für funk, 2017
00:14Good morning, it's Thursday, October 15th, you're watching Euronews, and this is Europe Today.
00:21Coming up, spiraling energy prices, the EU's long-term budget and support for Ukraine
00:27in the wake of Donald Trump's latest pressure campaign.
00:30These are the topics that will dominate the conversation
00:33as the leaders of the EU gather for a two-day summit in Brussels today.
00:37The meeting will start in a couple of hours
00:40with a hotly anticipated discussion on energy prices,
00:43which hostilities in the Middle East have since skyrocketing.
00:47We'll discuss the issues live with EU High Representative Kaya Callas, who is in our studio.
00:53Diesel markets will remain tight well into next year
00:56and wholesale diesel prices in Europe could rise again in the coming weeks,
01:00the International Energy Agency warned.
01:03In its monthly report, the Paris-based energy watchdog said
01:06recovering Gulf oil supplies had failed to resolve the fuel squeeze,
01:11with global output still falling short of consumptions.
01:14Supply rose by 2.5 million barrels a day in September
01:18to more than three-quarters of pre-war levels,
01:21but remains slightly below global demand, the IEA estimated.
01:26And 58 members of the European Parliament have urged the EU Commission
01:30to shield the International Criminal Court from U.S. sanctions
01:34that threaten to disrupt its operations.
01:37In a letter seen by Euronews,
01:39the members called and commissioned President von der Leyen
01:42to defend the Hague-based court against what they described as
01:46an attack by a foreign power on an entity on EU territory.
01:50The Trump administration had announced fresh sanctions against the ICC last Friday,
01:55following repeated criticism of the court over its arrest warrant
01:59for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
02:02Welcome to the program.
02:04I'm Stefan Grobe.
02:06EU leaders are meeting in Brussels today for a heavy agenda involving the EU's next seven-year budget.
02:12The gathering takes place amid deteriorating relations between the U.S. and Europe over Ukraine.
02:20And now let's go directly to my colleague Maria Tudeo,
02:23who is with a special guest, the EU High Representative Kaya Kalas.
02:28Yes, absolutely, Stefan.
02:29Good morning.
02:30And Madam Kalas, good morning.
02:31Thank you for joining us on Euronews.
02:33This has been a difficult week, a dramatic week, some would suggest.
02:37It started with that diesel deal with Russia,
02:39and now there seems to be real operational issues when it comes to the intel on the ground in Ukraine.
02:45The president of Ukraine, Zelensky, says this is a betrayal.
02:49It feels like a betrayal.
02:50Has the U.S. president betrayed Ukraine and, by extension, the Europeans?
02:54Well, the diesel deal is definitely a gift to Putin.
02:59The question is, what is he giving in return?
03:02What we see, he's actually increasing the attacks on the civilian and civilian infrastructure.
03:07The ceasefire that was also announced is not really working on the Russian side.
03:13And to that point, the president of Ukraine seems to indicate in an interview with the FT
03:17that he is prepared and will hit back Russian refineries.
03:21There is a clash of visions here.
03:23The president of the U.S. says, don't hit them.
03:26We need them because there is an energy crisis.
03:29It started with the Strait of Hormuz.
03:31The Ukrainians say we have to because that is the core of the operation, the moneymaker for Russia.
03:36In your view as a top European diplomat, should Ukraine hit them?
03:39I mean, the core issue is that Russia should stop this war.
03:43So there wouldn't be any attacks on the refineries either.
03:48But, you know, if we look at the big picture, then the majority of the financing for this war comes
03:56from oil.
03:57And that is why Ukraine is also targeting them, while Russia is targeting the energy infrastructure inside Ukraine to cause
04:05as much suffering for the Ukrainian people for the upcoming winter.
04:09And this is an escalation we've seen since August on the cities.
04:13But just to pick up on this point, would you say, yes, the president of Ukraine has a legitimate point?
04:18He is right to hit the refineries.
04:21Yes.
04:22If we look at the, you know, the international law, it is clear that it is in defense of Ukraine,
04:28because that is where the funding comes for this war, to kill Ukrainian people every day.
04:33And to me, it seems the administration is looking currently at this scenario, suggesting that the war is now not
04:39going to change.
04:40That line on the battlefield, that is the end of it.
04:43And you have to make a deal.
04:44They seem to think that with Russia, it's a matter of business, financial incentives.
04:50We see that with diesel reports that they may want to use some of the frozen assets, potentially give them
04:55to Russia.
04:56Is the administration wrong?
04:58Are they just miscalculating fully what Vladimir Putin wants?
05:02Well, clearly, you know, we have to see the bigger picture, which is that we have one aggressor and one
05:08victim.
05:08So pressuring the victim to surrender is maybe bringing the pause to this war, but not, you know, in long
05:16term.
05:17And that's why the pressure should be on the aggressor, what we are doing on the European side.
05:22And if we would do this together with U.S., then the message to Russia would be clear.
05:27Stop this war and all your, you know, worries when it comes to oil refineries and whatnot will also stop.
05:35To me, from the outside, what it seems, however, is we are a point of rupture.
05:40The U.S. has taken on a very different path compared to that of the Europeans.
05:43Do you look at it and you say we need a wake up call?
05:46It is just a moment of we need to put our own plan.
05:49And why has that not happened now?
05:51Well, we have put our own plan.
05:54And that is a clear message also to Russia that, you know, all these things that they are interested in,
06:01lifting the sanctions.
06:02I mean, getting, you know, the release of frozen assets, that's actually up to the Europeans to decide.
06:08Now, Russians want to discuss and negotiate with U.S. so that U.S. would deliver them what they want.
06:15So, you know, Europe is just a nuisance here.
06:18But actually, you know, we have our own requests for Russia because they have started this war.
06:25We want to make sure that they don't continue also, you know, the sabotage acts, hybrid attacks that they have
06:31on European soil.
06:33So clearly, clearly, you know, the message is there that, you know, you need to talk to the Europeans as
06:39well.
06:39But it seems to me, and I say this with all due respect because the U.S. is a complex
06:43institution, the capitals too, but there is a lack of leadership.
06:47When you are blindsided every four months, when you're not really at the heart of the negotiations, when the hybrid
06:53attack escalates,
06:54the message I get is that the U.S. does not respect the perspective of the Europeans and that Russia
06:59is willing to test them.
07:00Why?
07:01Where is the failure coming from?
07:02Because the calculation is that, you know, if Russia and U.S. agree, then, you know, Russia will get what
07:10they want.
07:11But they have miscalculated because, you know, when was the Anchorage agreement?
07:16It was August last year.
07:17So it is more than a year that they have tried to pressure Ukraine.
07:23But the calculus has been wrong because Europeans have been supporting Ukraine, and Ukraine has not surrendered, even though Americans
07:32have been pressuring.
07:34And yet I see a very difficult political calendar with the elections that are lining up in Europe.
07:39Yesterday, Marine Le Pen was in Brussels, and she said, and this is a quote,
07:43France is not in a position where it can't pay for Ukraine anymore.
07:46If others want to pay, they can, but France will not pay.
07:50They cannot do it anymore.
07:51When you hear that, are you concerned?
07:53Because it seems to me the political tide is not working in favor of Ukraine.
07:57It is true that we are all democracies, and a lot of elections are coming up.
08:02And also, there are a lot of, you know, the public support is also in a different place than it
08:07was, you know, four years ago.
08:09That's also very clear.
08:11But this is what the Russians are actually, you know, playing at.
08:14They are playing at that the Europeans will get tired, and then they will get what they want.
08:21And what I want to stress is that then we will only have a pause, and the appetite for them
08:26will grow.
08:27And to that point, there is a financial cost, however.
08:30However, the Europeans, let's be honest, can they pay $100 billion, assuming maybe that's the number we're looking at to
08:37help the Ukrainians?
08:39Who is going to finance this?
08:40And ultimately, is it not just obvious that you've got to tap into the Russian frozen assets before the Americans
08:45do it?
08:46Well, the frozen assets are frozen in Europe, and also, I mean, the agreement between the European leaders is that
08:55they are going to remain frozen until Russia pays reparations.
08:59So, yes, clearly, a lot of member states are pointing at these $200 billion that, you know, we should take
09:06this money that Ukraine needs from these frozen assets.
09:10And what's it going to take to change dynamics?
09:13What's it going to take? It's going to take a clear plan to actually, you know, divide the risk, because,
09:22yes, some member states have the frozen assets.
09:24They are afraid of the risk that comes to their way if all the member states would share the risk.
09:31Is that idea still alive?
09:32Yes, it is. It is still alive. But, you know, also the clear plan needs to come.
09:40And just, High Representative, as a final point, over the past six months, there has been a campaign, something I've
09:46not seen in a long time in Brussels, to undermine your work and your institution.
09:50What I see today is a High Representative that is determined and is not going anywhere.
09:55Are you going to fight for your institution?
09:56Of course, of course, I'm going to fight. And it's a good institution, meaning that we do a lot of
10:03good work.
10:04The EU delegations that everybody is very happy with are working well for also the member states.
10:10I think this is the moment in time where we need to be effective in our foreign policy.
10:15We need to be united. And that's why the discussions, I actually welcome how can we make them more effective.
10:21And that's your message to the capitals, too, that you will be on top of this dossier.
10:24Yes, absolutely. And that has been my message and also the message of my Secretary General, who has been traveling.
10:32I see you revitalized this morning. I see you energized. Is that how you feel?
10:37Absolutely. I mean, you know, tough times need to have a tough, you know, stance.
10:43Well, to that point, Kaya Callas, thank you so much for joining us on Euronews this morning.
10:46Thank you.
10:47Stefan.
10:48Thank you, Maria. And thank you, High Representative Kaya Callas.
10:52Europe is facing a strategic choice over its future borders.
10:57With Ukraine, Moldova and the Western Balkans pressing for EU membership,
11:01enlargement is back at the heart of the European debate.
11:05Austria is proposing a new approach, giving candidate countries access to the single market
11:10as they complete reforms rather than making them wait for full membership.
11:15But does that accelerate enlargement or risk creating a permanent halfway house?
11:21Yesterday, I had a chance to speak to Austria's Foreign Minister, Beate Meiner-Reisinger, to discuss her proposal.
11:27And I started by asking her why the enlargement process is moving so slowly.
11:32Is it because the candidate countries are lacking reforms or because of political reluctance inside the EU itself?
11:40Here's what she said.
11:43There are so many countries now in the waiting room for or have been in the waiting room for over
11:4720 years,
11:48especially those countries from the Western Balkans.
11:51And you know that Austria is a fierce promoter of Western Balkan accession.
11:56I think it's both.
11:57First, it's a very complicated and bureaucratic process.
12:01And it's hard to do reforms, to reform everything in your country, which is what we ask for from these
12:08states.
12:09But on the other hand, it's also a little bit, well, not only political reluctance,
12:15but also bureaucratic reluctance of Brussels not being able to promote ideas like this asexual integration,
12:28the step-by-step membership, as we introduce now into the discussion.
12:32On that point, Austria has proposed to give EU candidates access to parts of the single market before they become
12:39members.
12:40Isn't this essentially EU membership à la carte?
12:44No, it's not à la carte, because this is not a membership only in a single point.
12:49And that's it then.
12:50The target, the goal is always full membership.
12:53But what we have seen now over the last two decades is that those exceeding countries, they do reforms.
13:01In some countries on a faster pace and some a little bit more slowly, but they do reforms.
13:07But it has been always everything or nothing.
13:10So if you do all the reforms, you get eventually the full membership.
13:15And now this idea of step-by-step membership, it's a development out of our gradual integration approach,
13:22means that if you do reforms in a respective area, you can enter the single market there.
13:27So it's not like, I don't know, an elevator you take.
13:32It's not getting any faster.
13:34But you see the effects of the reforms immediately.
13:37Now, there are fewer than half of Austrians who currently support EU enlargement.
13:43Why should Austrian taxpayers and voters see another enlargement as being in their interest?
13:50Well, actually, that is our communication job.
13:53And I see the numbers as well.
13:54And I'm a little bit wondering what has been the communication over the last two decades,
13:59because Austria is among the top investors in nearly all exceeding countries,
14:05especially in the Western Balkans, but also take, for example, Ukraine.
14:10I think Austria has been the sixth largest investor there.
14:14More than 200 companies are already there.
14:16With every enlargement round we made, after Austria was a full member of the European Union,
14:22we saw that Austria benefited enormously, so that wealth in our own country and jobs have been created.
14:32Now, finally, if the EU doesn't offer the Western Balkans a credible part to membership now,
14:39are we effectively handing the region to Russia and China?
14:42Yes, we are.
14:43I always say there is no such thing as a vacuum in EU politics.
14:48And the enlargement is the most powerful and important EU strategic instrument the European Union has.
14:57So it is primarily, in my opinion, a political decision to be taken that we say,
15:04no, this is our backyard.
15:07We want the countries of the Western Balkans.
15:10We want also Ukraine, Moldova to be part of the European Union.
15:14But apart from that, we are not only an internal market, we are also a union created out of values.
15:22So they have to do the reforms, but we have to find possibilities how to make it much quicker than
15:29in the past.
15:30Once again, for Western Balkan countries, there has been more than two decades,
15:34and we're losing the population there.
15:36And if the population is getting frustrated, it's very easy for Russia or China or the US to enter those
15:44countries.
15:50And now to the Middle East, but not to Iran.
15:54Jordan is looking to turn its partnership with the European Union into a major economic opportunity.
16:01With billions of euros on the table, Amman wants European investment in everything from energy and infrastructure to technology and
16:09logistics.
16:09But beyond the money, this is also about geopolitics.
16:14As wars and instability reshape the Middle East, Jordan is positioning itself as a stable gateway between Europe, the Gulf
16:22and the wider region.
16:23So what does Jordan want from Brussels?
16:26And what can it offer Europe in return?
16:29To learn more about this, I'm now joined by Jordan's investment minister, Tarek Abu Ghazali.
16:34Good morning, sir, and welcome to the program.
16:37Good morning, Chef Finn.
16:38So you're in Brussels asking Europe to invest more in your country.
16:44What is the single biggest reason for a European investor to put money in Jordan?
16:52Simply, any investor is looking for predictability.
16:55And due to what's happening not only in the region, in the whole world, growth is questionable now.
17:01And Jordan and Europe is working hard to elevate the comprehensive and strategic partnership to a level where there is
17:09a productive investment opportunity are available for investors to yield more growth and prosperity at the end of the day
17:19for all related nations.
17:21So the EU has committed around 3 billion euros to Jordan through 2027.
17:27What do you want from Brussels now that you're not getting from that package?
17:33Actually, we are having good talk with Brussels and we are working closely to make things happen properly.
17:41Now, Brussels is helping us on the technicalities of the investment opportunities, etc., and supporting us in bringing to the
17:53conference high-level officials, interested investors,
17:57to make sure that dialogue is transforming from only talks to potential deals that will support as well the continuity
18:07of businesses and the modernity of the economical situation in Jordan and the region.
18:13Plus, as you mentioned, Jordan is becoming the safe gateway to support all neighbouring countries, ensure there is more cohesion
18:23between the plans and the economic integration in the Middle East.
18:27If I may, on that point, as you say, Jordan sees itself as a hub, a wider gateway into the
18:33Middle East.
18:34But for investors, it's also a very unstable region.
18:41So why should they choose Jordan rather than avoiding the region altogether?
18:47Because the region has a lot of potential in the future and instability will fade out soon.
18:56So you have to be ready in order to ensure you seize the opportunity from now.
19:04Plus, Jordan has eventually showed all the investors that we have a resilient economy.
19:12For example, our capital market grew 40% in the last year, despite all the instability in the market,
19:20and was named by Bloomberg as the first Arab productive and performance capital market.
19:29Our economy is growing steadily at 3%.
19:33All right. Sorry, Minister, I have to stop you here.
19:37That's all the time we have for today.
19:39Thank you for coming on the show.
19:40And that's it for today.
19:42Thank you for watching.
19:44I'm Stefan Grobe, and I'll see you tomorrow.
19:46I'm Stefan Grobe, and I'll see you tomorrow.