00:00The Turkish government is trying to use every method, every way to stop me talking, writing
00:06and they want me to to stay silent but it wouldn't work.
00:21This is totally unlawful decisions and political decisions and all the world is
00:27they know that. I mean, so even Interpol is not taking it seriously. That's why I will not stop
00:35talking or writing because the government is crushing. Imagine a government asks for two life
00:41sentences for a journalist who wrote a true story. So that shows how difficult it is to be a journalist
00:48in Turkey but also that shows how the government is behaving against the journalists if they are
00:54writing something against their interests. So necessarily, of course, it's binding for many
01:02journalists living in Turkey. But for me, it doesn't make sense if I have 20 years or 100 years in
01:09prison.
01:14If you're a journalist, you are, of course, this is your mission. This is your duty
01:19to inform the public about what's going on in your own country or the world. So I'm not the only
01:25one.
01:25There are many journalists who, you know, fight for truth, fight for freedom of expression.
01:31And of course, without journalists, who can enlighten people? So this is also especially important for
01:39countries like Turkey, where there's not much source of information. So of course, this should be our
01:47professionally duty to inform the public, to criticize the government, to enlighten what
01:57they are doing, what kind of illegal operations they are, you know, intervening. That's why I didn't even
02:04think about it. I mean, as a journalist, it's a kind of reflex to write a big story about a
02:11government
02:11smuggling arms to enabling countries. And I don't feel any regrets. The governments are there to hide
02:18their dirty secrets. And the German, the journalists are here to enlighten them. And it's, it was the same
02:26in Washington Pentagon Papers for the same in Julian Assange case, you know, we have to fight for the truth.
02:40This should be a concern for Europeans and European Council and European
02:47the Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. They should think about what they have done wrong so far,
02:55so that Erdoğan doesn't care about their decisions, even if Turkey is a member in the European Council.
03:02So he must trust something. And what he trusts is the interests of European governments.
03:11Because Erdoğan knows very well that the European government needs him to stop the refugee flow.
03:19and as long as he has refugees in Turkish soil, he can easily blackmail European countries.
03:26And he can easily say that I don't respect European decisions of the
03:32Court of European Courts. And who cares? And they can't do anything to me. And same with Putin.
03:39So what's the meaning of an independent judicial system in Europe, if the members and the remembering
03:46countries doesn't care about their, their decisions, there are people in jail, and they're still in jail.
03:54Because even if the European Court of Human Rights decided for their release,
04:01So really people lost trust to those institutions because they obey Erdoğan's rules, unfortunately.
