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Europe Today: studenti francesi "riprendono la Bastiglia", Trump "restio" ad aiutare l'Ucraina

Jean-Luc Mélenchon dice che gli studenti francesi hanno "ripreso la Bastiglia" dopo un grande corteo a Parigi. Zelenskyj accusa gli USA di scarso sostegno all'Ucraina, mentre Helen Clark e l'eurodeputata Rima Hassan finiscono al centro di nuove tensioni.

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00:15Buongiorno, è friday 9 ottobre, io sono Maeve McMahan e questo è Europe Today,
00:21la mia giornata di europee news e analisi live here on Euronews.
00:26Come up, French bonds hit historic lows. Market panic is gripping Paris as the country's
00:32debt turmoil reaches levels not seen in decades. The news could have chilling implications
00:38for the wider Eurozone economy, just as finance ministers were gathering in Luxembourg.
00:43Meanwhile, the European Court of Auditors warns that total EU debt could hit a staggering
00:481 trillion euro by 2027. Billions are being wasted on interest payments and spending mistakes,
00:55leaving Brussels with a massive cash crunch, just as leaders try defunds defence and Ukraine.
01:00And speaking of Ukraine horror in the east of the country with at least 33 people killed
01:06after a Russian bomb hit two buses in the frontline city of Kramatorsk. Emergency services report
01:12dozens more injured in an attack President Zelensky has called a deliberate targeting of civilian life.
01:18But first, the Bastille has been retaken. The words of French left leader Jean-Luc Mélenchon
01:24after days of high school goers and student protests culminated in a mass gathering around
01:29the famous Place de la Bastille in Paris. For more on these strikes that look like they're here
01:34to stay, we can bring in now the French MEP Emma Rabovitch from the Socialist Party.
01:38Good morning, Emma. Thank you so much for joining us here live on Europe Today.
01:42So, Luc Mélenchon saying the Bastille has been retaken. Do you endorse this revolutionary talk?
01:48I'm not going to speak about Jean-Luc Mélenchon. I think that what we are going to speak about
01:53and what is really important right now is the situation of high schoolers in France.
01:58Myself, actually, 15 years ago, I was also protesting. And what is completely striking
02:05for all of us here is how the situation hasn't changed for the EU.
02:09So, why has there been such little investment in this sector? What are the main issues here?
02:15Well, I would say that the main issue is the government, who actually isn't doing anything
02:20for the youth, who isn't respecting the young people, especially when they are coming from,
02:25I would say, poorer neighbourhoods or departments of the country. When we are literally all over
02:32seeing high schools in shambles in France, you know, ceiling falling down, rats in school,
02:39lunches being basically not moment for quality time, because, well, basically, they are sometimes
02:45rats or insects in the food. This is happening right now in France, which is a rich country.
02:51And this means that there is disrespect for the young people.
02:54But the protests, of course, have been hijacked by violence. They're the images that are being
02:57captured, of course, on the front pages of all the newspapers across Europe. How can calm
03:01return to the streets of France here?
03:04Well, to me, honestly, there is something really good in protesting. And I really respect that.
03:12The problem right now is that we are seeing violence, violence from, first of all, from the
03:17police side. The minister of the interior minister actually asked that the police shows no restraint,
03:24when it was basically framing or organizing these mobilizations. And on the other side, of course,
03:33there are individuals who are deciding to basically profit this mobilization to make violence movements.
03:41But I want to say that this is not what is happening in the country. Violence is not the general
03:46thing.
03:48What is happening is protesting, respectful one. We even see singing everywhere in the country.
03:53The youth are actually mobilizing quite well.
03:56And what is the government doing? Are they just closing their eyes and hoping it'll go away and
04:00then suddenly it'll be Halloween holidays?
04:02Well, you said it. I feel like it is that way, yes. And to be honest, I don't understand.
04:08I don't understand what we are doing. I feel like, you know, we are just looking the other way,
04:13hoping that the holiday will come soon and basically that the kids will not be in the streets.
04:20I feel like they are completely irresponsible.
04:23And just one final question. Meanwhile, while all this is happening,
04:26we've seen France heading towards a potential debt crisis.
04:29How could that impact France and, of course, the wider Eurozone?
04:32The debt also is something that shows just basically how Macron was completely irresponsible.
04:39Of course, in Europe, we all had the situation during COVID,
04:43taking really important choices and obviously increasing the debt of our countries.
04:48But today we also see a government that decided month after month, years after years to give gifts,
04:55basically fiscal gifts to the richest and basically deciding now is saying now that it is a problem
05:02and that the poor people, for example, in retirement should do big choices.
05:07And of course, we have the AI bubble on the market who is basically, well, I would say disrupting
05:14the entire debt system and the bonds for France, of course, but for a lot of countries in Europe today.
05:21And I feel like, you know, we should say stop, that this is not enough and we should not let
05:26that go.
05:27OK. Emma Ravovitch, thank you so much for joining us this morning.
05:29You're, of course, very critical of the French government,
05:31with soon bringing on a voice from there to have their view as well.
05:35But now moving on in the context of instability in the Gulf,
05:38growing pressure on global energy security and the scramble for critical raw materials.
05:43Over 1,000 representatives from over 55 countries have gathered in Brussels for talks.
05:48Among them is the former New Zealand Prime Minister, Helen Clark, who joins us now in the studio.
05:52Welcome.
05:53Thank you.
05:53So welcome to Brussels. Just tell us more about what brings you here.
05:56It is the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative Global Conference.
06:00It happens once every three years and we bring the whole family that supports this initiative together.
06:06That's governments both supporting and countries implementing the EITI best practice, good governance standard.
06:14We also have company members from across the extractives and civil society members from around the world.
06:20That all sounds very clunky and kind of distant to our viewers.
06:22What are you actually trying to achieve here?
06:24So it was set up basically to fight corruption in the extractive industries, oil, gas, minerals.
06:31Everyone will remember blood diamonds in Sierra Leone.
06:34You remember the civil war in Nigeria over oil.
06:37There's been a lot of corruption traditionally around these sectors in many countries.
06:43This initiative was set up to drive it out and to have countries change their laws and policies
06:49and the way they govern these sectors to get better results for people.
06:54And while you're here, of course, our Trade Commissioner is over in Beijing.
06:57So everyone in Brussels is talking about China and the very tense EU-China relations.
07:01We've also seen Friedrich Mertz and Emmanuel Macron calling for perhaps the use of a big bazooka.
07:06What would be your advice here for Europeans?
07:09When I was New Zealand Prime Minister, we became the first Western country to sign a free trade agreement with
07:15China.
07:16And I have to say it underpinned New Zealand's prosperity for a long time.
07:21Now, it's very important to keep diverse markets, of course, but China isn't going anywhere.
07:26China is a fact of life.
07:28Countries have to engage with China.
07:30The European Commission has to engage with China.
07:33It is a power in the world.
07:36It is a huge economy.
07:38And we have to work out how we engage and how we interact.
07:41And do you think they'll manage and save off a trade war?
07:45Well, do you want another trade war?
07:47You know, there's an American trade war.
07:48Do you want a China trade war?
07:50Look, we need people talking.
07:51I am a great fan of Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada, who's very pragmatic.
07:56His country was quite estranged from China over a number of things.
08:00He's gone there.
08:01He's talking.
08:02He's engaging.
08:02He's engaging with Europe, too.
08:04We need more pragmatic leaders who can look at how we engage around our common interests.
08:09Well, he certainly is engaging in Europe, so much so that he was in Strasbourg recently delivering a speech.
08:14The idea of an associate membership for Canada was even floated.
08:17Is that something that New Zealand would also like to explore?
08:20I'm very interested in that agreement because I recall having a dinner with a former chair of the commission many
08:27years ago when I was PM and came to Brussels.
08:29And he said, you know, there's one country that meets every single criterion for membership of the EU except geography.
08:37That's New Zealand.
08:39So the association agreement could be very interesting to New Zealand.
08:42So what would it look like?
08:43Well, if it gave access to a common market, wouldn't that be very interesting for a distant trade country like
08:51New Zealand?
08:51And what about defence?
08:52Because that's obviously the big topic here.
08:53Well, you see, the issue is how much is Europe, the European Union, going to do defence vis-a-vis
09:00NATO?
09:01We are not obviously in NATO.
09:03We're a very long way away.
09:04But we should be in the conversation about what an association agreement means.
09:09And just one final comment.
09:11Brexit is back on the political agenda.
09:13We've had UK ministers in Strasbourg this week and also participating in meetings in Ireland who have the EU presidency
09:18now.
09:19What would your view here be?
09:21This is an incredibly difficult political issue in Europe, in the United Kingdom.
09:27And what the Prime Minister won't want to do is fire up Nigel Farage and the anti-Brexit team again.
09:32But there's no doubt, in my view, that Britain getting closer to the single market again would be good for
09:38the British economy and the British people.
09:40OK, Helen Clark, thank you so much for joining us here this morning on Europe Today.
09:44And best of luck for your talks today in Brussels.
09:46Well now, moving on to Ukraine, where Volodymyr Zelenskyy has criticised US, quote,
09:51unwillingness to help his country ahead of new peace talks in Miami today.
09:56The talks come as Russia steps up deadly airstrikes against Ukraine, including one at a bus stop yesterday that killed
10:02over 33 civilians and injured dozens.
10:05For more, we can go straight over to Kyiv now and speak to Yulia Klimenko, a Ukrainian member of Parliament.
10:10Good morning, Yulia.
10:11Thank you so much for joining us.
10:13We've seen now Russia using a glide bomb to target regular bus stops.
10:17Was this a direct attack on civilians?
10:21Hello from Kyiv.
10:23Thank you for hosting me.
10:24Yes, it was a deliberate and very purpose, purpose attack on civilians.
10:30Only yesterday, Russia killed the 450 injured, badly injured or killed 450 people around Ukraine.
10:42It's civilian people.
10:43I'm not talking about the army.
10:45So, actually, it's a deliberate fight and genocide against civilians because they cannot achieve anything on the front line.
10:55Moreover, for the past three weeks, we de-occupied, our army de-occupied more than 150 kilometers.
11:01So, now it looks like the only war Russia can do with kids and women inside the country.
11:09So, that's what they are doing, deliberately targeting.
11:12And they targeted, unfortunately, two buses, killed more than 33 people yesterday by one glide bomb and injured more than
11:2060 people in the buses.
11:22So, I think it's purposely war crimes done by Putin, who already said to his army and generals that they
11:31can do whatever they want with the civilians.
11:33So, what's your plan now?
11:34How is Ukraine responding to these kind of attacks?
11:37So, our plan is very simple.
11:39We are increasing our capacity on air defence and in parallel, we're talking to our U.S. and European colleagues
11:50and partners to proceed with the peace talks.
11:54I think this will be two parallel tracks.
11:57From one side, reinforcing army.
11:58From other side, to restart again a peace talk.
12:04Let's see if we'll have it.
12:05Well, you mentioned peace talks.
12:07All eyes on Miami today on those talks, led by Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.
12:11They'll be discussing, quote, new ideas.
12:13But have you any expectations here?
12:16I think there is no new idea with Putin.
12:18He either stopped the war or proceeded with war.
12:23So, I think the only person who can decide to stop the war is Putin and Kushner and Witkoff have
12:30to put all possible pressure on Putin to stop the war.
12:35That's the only way how we can do it.
12:37And how is the Ukrainian economy keeping afloat?
12:41What is your message as well to European investors waiting for the war to end?
12:45Actually, European economy can help Ukrainian economy with lanes of solidarity, with export, with more contracts, with more joint ventures,
12:56et cetera, et cetera.
12:57We have a very booming, I would say.
12:59It's very strange to say, but it's booming on the western part of Ukraine.
13:04And many companies from eastern and southern part of Ukraine relocating to the western part.
13:09And there already European investors can do investments and can cooperate with Ukrainian companies and businesses.
13:17And this way to help the Ukrainians also on economic side.
13:22Okay.
13:22Yulia Klimenko, Ukrainian MP, speaking to us from Kiev.
13:26Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
13:28Now we can move on.
13:29As the French MEP of Palestinian origin, Rima Hassan, is facing an investigation after the Israeli and European Union flags
13:36were allegedly thrown to the floor
13:39at a commemoration for the 2023 Hamas attacks that set off the Gaza war that took place this week in
13:44Strasbourg.
13:45Our French correspondent, Maya de la Boum, actually spoke to her yesterday in Strasbourg and joins us now for an
13:50update.
13:51What does she have to say?
13:52So let's first remind our viewers of the facts.
13:56Rima Hassan is a French MEP from the left-wing France unbound.
14:00And she is primarily seen in France as a fierce supporter of the Palestinian cause.
14:06And that is also what made her extremely controversial in France.
14:10So to remind the facts, on Monday she was accused of removing an Israeli flag from an exhibit commemorating the
14:18October 7th attacks.
14:20So she has since then confirmed that she had removed this flag, but she also argued that it was not
14:28an act of violence and it was primarily directed against the Israeli government and not the victims.
14:35However, we spoke to Joshua Zarca and you spoke to him, the Israeli ambassador to Paris, and he had very
14:44strong comments to make, very harsh comments.
14:46She called her a terrible person.
14:48And we see it on screen now, he told Euronews.
14:52She openly supports Hamas.
14:53This is a terrible person.
14:55Our embassy and the president of the European Parliament are in dialogue with the purpose of making sure that Mrs.
15:02Rima Hassan faces the charges she needs to face.
15:06So as you said, Maeve, I interviewed Rima Hassan yesterday, and she also had very strong comments to make and
15:14a strong reaction to make to the Israeli ambassador.
15:17Let's take a listen.
15:23First of all, it is worth remembering that the Israeli ambassador acts as a spokesperson for the Israeli authorities.
15:29This is therefore the official line of the Israeli authorities.
15:32I do not, therefore, expect much that is relevant, or even, I would say, intelligent, from an Israeli ambassador at
15:39this stage, given the current situation.
15:42On the issue of the conflict spilling over, Mr. Zarca seems to be unaware of the European Parliament's agenda.
15:47We hold debates, discussions and negotiations on texts relating to the situation in the region on a very regular basis,
15:54almost every month in plenary.
15:56On the issues of actions, specifically the act of taking down an Israeli flag, which has been highlighted,
16:01I maintain that I am absolutely opposed to the Israeli embassy being invited into the European Parliament,
16:07in the same way that the Russian embassy has absolutely no authorization to come and organize or co-organize events
16:13that a Russian ambassador cannot come and address Parliament, and that there is no platform for them to do so.
16:23Were you able to check the footage, the CCTV footage, of what happened on Monday?
16:29I saw them this morning with the Speaker of Parliament.
16:32I was received this morning by the Speaker of Parliament.
16:34Listen, it's very clear.
16:36I even asked for these images to be made available to the press so that you could see them for
16:40yourselves.
16:40You can see me, rather softly, taking the Israeli flag down from the stand on which it was mounted.
16:46And a few seconds later, the stand actually tipped over because it was unbalanced.
16:50And that is how the European flag ended up falling.
16:53But none of the flags were trampled on, thrown about or damaged.
16:56And this was confirmed by the footage I reviewed this morning in her presence.
17:00Right, but looking back, wouldn't it be wiser to use words rather than this type of action to express a
17:09disagreement?
17:11What I have observed is that on all other issues, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sudan,
17:17all the issues I've worked on, we have had no difficulty in obtaining texts.
17:21Indeed, we have even secured majorities to pass resolutions effectively condemned
17:26what was happening in this or that region of the world.
17:29The only issue is that it is literally censored.
17:32And I mean censored because we have debates, but no texts, no meaningful action, is the Palestinian question.
17:38So sometimes, you know, a political mandate can be accompanied by an activist gesture, a symbolic gesture.
17:44I'd like to pick up on that precisely because we know that you're a very strong advocate for the Palestinian
17:51cause.
17:51We've seen it many times and you've demonstrated it on Monday.
17:55But how exactly do you ensure that this advocacy does not, in fact, end up placing the burden of responsibility
18:03for the Israeli government's actions on French Jews?
18:09Well, you just have to listen to me.
18:15I never talk, if you like, about individual responsibility on anyone's part.
18:20My political target is the State of Israel, and it is the fact that our Union of States,
18:24the European Union, our institutions and our leaders are failing to take their share of responsibility
18:30to ensure that international law is upheld.
18:32The commemoration of the victims of the 7th of October is a noble cause.
18:36I took part in it myself.
18:38In the Parliament, we paid tribute to these families of the hostages, whom we welcomed during a plenary session.
18:43If you like, I am always present at all official commemorations.
18:47It is simply that these commemorations, or at least this particular event,
18:51was an unofficial event organized by the European Parliament in partnership with the Israeli embassy
18:56and the AGC organization, which has been singled out in NGO reports for a promoting settlement activity.
19:03This point is entirely open to question.
19:06In other words, commemorating the victims of 7 October is one thing,
19:09but not in partnership with the Israeli government, not in partnership with the Israeli authorities.
19:21Well, that brings this edition of Europe Today to an end.
19:24For news on the winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize, stay tuned and see you soon on your own
19:28news.
19:58For more information, visit www.fema.org.
20:00For more information, visit www.fema.org.
20:01Grazie a tutti

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