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¿Cómo nació Rock al Parque y por qué terminó convirtiéndose en uno de los festivales de rock más importantes de Latinoamérica? En "Gracias, Rock al Parque", un documental de El Espectador, viajamos a los años 90 para reconstruir la historia de un festival que nació en medio de una Colombia convulsionada y que, tres décadas después, sigue siendo un referente de la música y la cultura del mundo hispano. Junto a, entre otros, Julio Correal y Bertha Quintero, cocreadores del festival, Héctor Buitrago, integrante de Aterciopelados, María Claudia Parias Durán, directora de IDARTES y el músico argentino Gustavo Santaolalla, hablamos del pasado, presente y futuro de un evento que nunca dejó de hacer ruido.
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00:00Rocal Park is so cool, isn't it?
00:04There was drug trafficking, there was violence in the countryside.
00:07I didn't know if I was going to return home alive or not.
00:10The cities were taken.
00:13A complete weariness with drug trafficking.
00:16That also created a kind of breeding ground.
00:18in order to hold a festival where they could express themselves,
00:23where they could also vent their frustrations.
00:25That the youth were seeing the future of this country as complicated.
00:28Much of that energy of youthful discontent was released.
00:32It was through music and the emergence
00:35of what they wrongly called urban tribes.
00:38Thank you Festival for helping us grow so much
00:41as artists and as an audience.
00:43Even the skinny Espineta came to Rocal Parque because he called.
00:48Support and take care of it, because it's an icon of the city
00:51And we have to take care of it and continue to pay tribute to it.
00:55because it has given us so much.
00:57I was asking if Flaco Espineta can go to Rocal Parque.
01:00I, brother, cannot believe it.
01:02As long as rock music exists, Rocal Parque will exist in Bogotá.
01:06Thank you, Rocal Park.
01:22To give you a little context,
01:25I was a concert producer, a festival producer.
01:30He was also the manager of the right wing, Don Mario Duarte.
01:34Back then, the circuit was scarce; there was nowhere to perform.
01:38Despite a couple of opportunities having arisen with his right foot,
01:41There was a soda-throwing festival that took place all over the country.
01:46Free open-air concerts in the 70s and 80s.
01:52In Medellín, in Ancón, in Tolima, on the La Miel River
01:56And here in Bogotá, in the National Park.
01:59And in Medellín, Mario had said that he wanted to hold a festival,
02:02Let's invent a festival in July,
02:04Let's make some kind of place where we can play,
02:06because there wasn't a circuit where rock bands could play
02:09And the right wing at that time was sounding very good with their first album.
02:13I mean, it was crazy.
02:18In that sense, the Institute then set out to open spaces
02:22with programs and offers for them
02:25and they were organized between 1991 and 1992,
02:28which were even held here at the District Planetarium,
02:32where we are at that moment.
02:34Those festivals were successful,
02:36especially when rock groups performed,
02:38because all genres were represented,
02:40jazz, vallenato music, Colombian Andean music.
02:46The groups that brought in the largest audiences
02:49It was the rockers, who I think gave it a boost
02:53to some rock musicians who came to propose to the Institute
02:58who wanted a much larger festival to be organized,
03:03where the district groups would participate
03:07and where they could also begin to build larger audiences,
03:12which they lacked due to the difficulties they encountered
03:15at work in the city.
03:16I remember very well that the singer from Juanita Vientes Verdes arrived,
03:21who has already died,
03:22And we were there smoking weed,
03:25And there we were putting together a La Berraca production,
03:28which included Caifanes, Rubén Blades, Inner Circle and the right wing.
03:34Then, in the middle of the turn,
03:36A festival came out, wow, Rock al Parque,
03:38And the name emerged.
03:39I envisioned it happening in that John Paul II Park,
03:43But then, upon arriving in Bogotá,
03:45We met Mario Duarte,
03:47And I told him, "Dude, I've got the name of the festival."
03:49The festival is called Rock al Parque.
03:51And then he said, brother, let's go for it,
03:53and we locked ourselves in his apartment
03:55like three or four days to write a proposal.
04:05And in the year 1994,
04:08The first Rock al Parque festival was held
04:12in Olaya Herrera Park,
04:14which was loaned to the institute
04:17with the commitment to return it in the same condition,
04:19and where 14 bands performed,
04:247,000 people attended
04:25out of 120 groups that registered.
04:29I believe that nowadays
04:30You present this festival and they tell you no,
04:32But they won't give him permission for anything.
04:34But fortunately,
04:35We had Berta Quintero,
04:37that was the spark that lit that bonfire,
04:42And she loved the idea that Mario and I presented to her.
04:44And since she likes to be against authority,
04:47and a little irreverent, of course,
04:50He came up with the idea of Antanas Mocos,
04:52And Antanas Mocos was fascinated by the idea of Rock al Parque,
04:55He thought it was great.
04:56And so, work began on that idea, let's say.
05:00both with the same musicians,
05:02with some of the audience who attended the rock scenes,
05:06to start thinking about the idea,
05:08to propose it and for it to take shape,
05:10And so it was thought.
05:18And then the generals,
05:19They weren't fascinated by it, though.
05:21They didn't like the truth at all.
05:23than a citywide rock and roll festival,
05:27gratuitous,
05:28Olaya Herrera Park,
05:29Half a Cake,
05:30Simón Bolívar Park,
05:32a lot,
05:32We were planning to take over the city with rock and roll.
05:35The country with 33 million inhabitants
05:39and Bogotá with approximately 5 million
05:41It was characterized as a country
05:43classist, racist,
05:46conservative
05:47and very violent.
05:48But fortunately,
05:49Berta Quintero knew how to present the idea well.
05:53And the generals said,
05:54Okay, that's it.
05:55Let's do it.
05:56Rock al Parque is so cool!
05:58Yes or what?
05:59Energy and all to Latin rock.
06:01Long live Colombia.
06:06The festival turned
06:08also a topic of conversation
06:11when they interviewed us
06:12in that early period,
06:15from 1995 to 2000,
06:17There was always a lot of talk about Rock al Parque.
06:19On the other hand,
06:19the presence of a rocker movement
06:21in Colombia since the 1970s,
06:25which came to have important groups
06:27that they recorded.
06:29In Bogotá there were, for example,
06:31the speakers who managed to record,
06:33but they also had jobs
06:37in small bars,
06:38in small nightclubs.
06:40The radio stations too,
06:41because the radio stations
06:42It seemed like they were reluctant at first.
06:44And then we had a bar.
06:47at that time
06:48and it was barbarism.
06:51And then the DJs arrived
06:53of the FM stations
06:54And of course, we put it there.
06:56Caifanes and we played music
06:58of phobia,
06:59of Spanish rock groups
07:00and the DJs were approaching
07:03and well,
07:03Which group is this?
07:04Who is it?
07:05Where is?
07:05What if I showed them the records,
07:07Vinyl records?
07:08Let's say I was
07:09of the first chicken farmers in Bogotá.
07:18In the 90s there was nothing here
07:19not a single company
07:21that he rented this type
07:23of elements that need
07:26to hold a public event.
07:27So much so that the first festival
07:29It is done with the platforms,
07:31the seats and the sound
07:33of the district police.
07:35And even then
07:37when we started traveling
07:40The groups outside told us
07:42We want to go to Rogal Park
07:44So imagine
07:45groups like Fobia,
07:47Damned Neighborhood,
07:48What needs to be done
07:49to go to Rogal Park?
07:50Because Rogal Park,
07:51Rogal Park's fame
07:52It also grew a lot
07:55in a very short time.
07:56Already in the second one,
07:57third version
07:57The groups already wanted to come
08:00as it might lead
08:02because I also believe
08:04which was one of the first scenarios
08:06with all the possibilities
08:08so that the groups
08:09could play
08:10in a good scenario
08:12with good equipment,
08:15with a good technical component,
08:17lights, sound, everything.
08:18Then that was wonderful.
08:21also for the groups
08:22that were around at that time.
08:24Bogotá was identified
08:26by Monserrate, Guadalupe,
08:28the Planetarium,
08:29the stadium, El Campín,
08:30I didn't have any...
08:31including the Ibero-American Festival
08:33It begins to give him a vision,
08:36but already Rogal Park
08:37begins to become part
08:38of the permanent events
08:40and Bogotá begins to be known
08:42in the country
08:43and in the world
08:45like the city
08:46where it is done
08:47the Rock Festival
08:48largest free
08:49of Latin America.
08:50This is great!
08:51a rock band!
08:51It's essential to us!
09:10Well, back then
09:11We were very short
09:13in technique really
09:14even though it had happened
09:16Well,
09:16Guns N' Roses
09:17in '92
09:18and 94
09:19It was a year
09:20very agitated
09:23particularly
09:23in Bogotá
09:24because in that year
09:2594 wine
09:27UB40,
09:28wine in excess,
09:30The Pecho Boys came,
09:31I mean,
09:31It was a year
09:32really important
09:33opening
09:34towards international talent.
09:37So,
09:37there was a limited technique
09:40But there was technique,
09:41Let's just say he surrendered.
09:43It started
09:44a whole new wave
09:45of bands,
09:47a huge movement
09:48and we watched him grow
09:49because I remember
09:50that there was a precedent
09:51And we played
09:52at the National Museum.
09:59Then
10:00There were souls,
10:02the right,
10:02us
10:03and they organized
10:04like a touch.
10:06So many people arrived
10:07that we had to
10:09finish the first one
10:10and start a second round
10:13so that they would come out
10:14those who were inside
10:15and they entered
10:16another litter
10:17that had stayed
10:18on the outside.
10:19So,
10:19already at that moment
10:20already kind of
10:21it felt
10:22that something had to happen,
10:23that had to open
10:24another scenario,
10:25that had something
10:27What to do in the city.
10:28Rocal Park
10:29It has been very important
10:29for all of Latin America
10:31become a benchmark
10:32of a mass event
10:33around a piece of music
10:35that although it was
10:35rooted
10:36in certain countries
10:37south
10:38of our continent,
10:40Let's just say it wasn't appreciated.
10:41would not be considered
10:42like something
10:42that could be
10:43so big
10:44and so massive,
10:45something that would unite
10:45in our own language
10:47all of Central America
10:48and practically
10:48all the way south.
10:51Really
10:52there was no
10:54places
10:54And it needs to be said.
10:55with the technique
10:56necessary
10:57so that they would appear
10:57the bands with dignity,
10:59I mean,
10:59There were places
11:00who lent the place
11:00and they brought
11:01two boxes
11:02and a console
11:03four-channel
11:04and mountains
11:05and let's see how he does it.
11:06However,
11:06There were many bands
11:07in Bogotá
11:08that they deserved
11:09to be on a stage
11:10worthy
11:10with a production
11:11worthy
11:12And that too.
11:12was part
11:13of inspiration
11:14Rock al Parque.
11:15We already are
11:16a city
11:16very sophisticated
11:17that is capable
11:18to produce
11:20the technical riders
11:21more difficult
11:22of the industry
11:23of music
11:24And that has been
11:25Thanks precisely
11:26to existence
11:27for 30 years
11:28of a festival
11:29like Rock al Parque.
11:30I remember a lot
11:31that the first festival
11:32Rock al Parque
11:32It was all during the day
11:33because there was no money
11:34to turn off lights,
11:35so
11:36the closing
11:37which was in the Plaza
11:38of Bulls
11:39which was the only time
11:40that has been charged
11:41Something for Rock al Parque
11:42because I don't know
11:42if it was 10,000 pesos
11:43what people paid
11:44to enter the Plaza
11:45of Bulls
11:45but it was charged
11:46and closed the phobia
11:49and closed velvet ones
11:50But there were no lights.
11:52The afternoon was passing
11:54It was time to cut a little.
11:55the presentation of phobia
11:56which they didn't like very much
11:57but those who closed
11:58They were the atercios
11:59They were from Bogotá
12:00because they must have had
12:01your ideal place.
12:04Ready
12:05about the dileggios
12:06Here goes the pen
12:12but practically
12:14we played in the dark
12:15because there was no money
12:16to turn off lights
12:17really at that festival
12:19so velvety
12:20It was his turn to sing
12:21the little rock flower
12:22and the good pogo
12:23in the dim light.
12:34The early years
12:35Sometimes they threw things at them
12:36coins
12:37to some groups
12:39to some musicians
12:40and well
12:41fortunately
12:41That changed too.
12:43and that's it
12:43It was easier
12:44that people
12:46would appreciate
12:47the different genres
12:48that mixture too
12:49of the metal
12:50pong
12:51the sounds
12:52more alternative
12:53more radical.
12:54Local Park
12:55has opened
12:56many doors
12:57not only
12:57to the national bands
12:58but also
12:59to the internationals
13:00I remember a lot
13:00from Puya
13:01For example
13:02a Puerto Rican band
13:03who did hardcore
13:04with Tropical
13:07and they
13:08They traveled the world
13:09showing the scene
13:10of the festival
13:11where they had been
13:12because in front
13:13I don't know they had
13:1440,000 people
13:15and they showed them
13:16look
13:16This is Colombia
13:16This is Bogotá
13:17Rock al Parque
13:18Look how cool!
13:19so
13:19It was a door
13:20for many bands
13:22Latin American rock
13:23in 2004
13:24in that version
13:25from age 10
13:25There were bands
13:26like Witchcraft
13:27Scata Life
13:28Elie Guerra
13:29Kinky
13:30Julieta Venegas
13:31Molotov
13:32in the end
13:33skinny Spinetta
13:34There was also something there
13:35their tensions
13:37like when they started
13:38to diversify
13:40a bit
13:41that I believe
13:41which is also natural
13:42who arrived
13:43other genres
13:44even something more pop
13:45something more electronic
13:47something more folkloric
13:48all coexisting
13:50with metal
13:50the most radical music
13:52Well, it seems to me
13:52which also allowed
13:54Thank you, festival.
13:57because you made us
13:58grow a lot
13:59as artists
14:00and as an audience
14:09from the point
14:10from a financial perspective
14:11a bet
14:12public
14:13essentially
14:13I mean
14:1390%
14:14of the resources
14:15of Rock
14:16to the Park
14:16historically
14:17come from
14:18of the Mayor's Office
14:19from Bogotá
14:19of the resources
14:20public
14:21of the city
14:21I mean
14:21of taxes
14:22of the citizens
14:23which speaks
14:24very good
14:25of several things
14:25first
14:26of the citizens
14:28that pay
14:29your taxes
14:30and that allow
14:31that Bogotá
14:32have one
14:32of the budgets
14:34more robust
14:35nationwide
14:37let's say
14:37second also
14:38of the administrations
14:40locals
14:40that they have realized
14:41that this
14:42It's a festival
14:42very important
14:44as an identity landmark
14:45but also
14:46in terms
14:48of inclusion
14:49of the guarantee
14:49cultural rights
14:51of diversity
14:52of the importance
14:54that has
14:54the construction
14:55of social fabric
14:56in public space
14:57I mean
14:58the fact
14:58that it is
14:59a festival
14:59gratuitous
15:00in public space
15:01in a city
15:02where it rains
15:02we say
15:04at IDARTES
15:05that Roca to the Park
15:06It has its own cloud.
15:13let's say in periods
15:14I feel
15:15that could be located
15:16an audience
15:17but each time
15:20that the festival
15:20It's growing
15:21and that the years
15:22they keep passing by
15:22Well, it's an audience.
15:23different
15:29It's an audience
15:30more critical
15:31I think that
15:32at the beginning
15:33he was more passionate
15:35but also
15:35I see that it's an audience
15:36now more
15:37with more judgment
15:38that you value most
15:39that appreciates more
15:40we have grown
15:41as an audience
15:42So that
15:43It has also been
15:44very cool
15:44in the 1990s
15:45because they were
15:46some bald ones
15:47I mean
15:48I who am
15:49contemporary
15:50of the velvety ones
15:51well this
15:51We were young
15:52that we wanted
15:53a better society
15:54a society
15:55more diverse
15:56more inclusive
15:58safer
15:59For example
15:59for women
16:00the gender issue
16:01That's another issue
16:02extremely important
16:02for sustainability
16:04From Rock to Park
16:04and today
16:05well many of
16:06those young people
16:07They are grandparents
16:08So what we see
16:09in the park
16:10They're already getting together
16:11three generations
16:12different
16:12with grandparents
16:14children
16:14and grandchildren
16:15and that the festival
16:16still has
16:16the same validity
16:17from the point
16:18from a view
16:19to say
16:19this city
16:20believes
16:21and bets
16:22to diversity
16:23cultural and creative
16:24and respect
16:26based on tastes
16:28for aesthetic reasons
16:29and by the forms
16:30of being
16:30and to be
16:31in Bogotá
16:41I would believe
16:42as a musical genre
16:44It has a lot of time
16:50and as a festival
16:52has the possibility
16:53to evolve
16:55in its setting
16:55on stage
16:56in their offer
16:57in your organization
16:58plenty of space
17:00which definitely
17:01can last
17:03a long time
17:03further
17:04And I believe
17:05that the important thing
17:06is to involve
17:07that is to say
17:08have the ability
17:09to be able to show him
17:11to an audience
17:12what really
17:13It's happening
17:13in practice
17:15we imagine
17:17first of all
17:18Rock al Parque
17:19It will always exist
17:20always
17:21As long as rock exists
17:23there will exist
17:23Rock al Parque
17:24in Bogotá
17:25and as long as there is
17:26new groups
17:28new ventures
17:29of music
17:29in Bogotá
17:30that it be supplied
17:31of rock
17:33or of its thousands
17:35and infinite influences
17:36in other forms
17:37of music
17:38well, probably
17:39There will be
17:40Bogota groups
17:42that they will be
17:43presenting
17:43at Rock al Parque
17:44and that they will have
17:45a guaranteed platform
17:47because also
17:48we have been winning
17:49in quality
17:49in an impressive way
17:51I aspire
17:52no to 30 years
17:53I hope it will be very soon.
17:54that we can have
17:56headliners
17:56the size of
17:57I don't know
17:58fabulous
17:58Skylark
17:59For example
17:59which are expensive
18:00Yeah
18:00Because it needs to be said.
18:02are groups
18:03that are worth
18:03near the middle
18:04million dollars
18:05Then people say
18:06sissy
18:07they are going to spend
18:08one thousand seven hundred
18:09fifty million
18:11in a group
18:12or with that money
18:13They're going to do something
18:14My position is
18:15man
18:16spend the money
18:17on the band
18:18because otherwise
18:19They steal it
18:19and then they don't do anything
18:20shit
18:21so
18:21at least
18:22He sees that they are spending
18:23the silver
18:24at events
18:26providing entertainment
18:28free to the public
18:29which is an obligation
18:30of the state
18:31give him entertainment
18:32to his people
18:49if Rock
18:50the park
18:50out of person
18:51I would tell him
18:52I love you very much
18:53I admire you a lot
18:55I respect you a lot
18:56And I'm very happy.
18:57of being your friend
18:58and I would appreciate it
18:59because really
19:00has been a
19:01platform for musicians
19:03I also believe it has been useful
19:04to educate
19:05to the public
19:06and to the artists
19:07to the musicians
19:08so that we
19:09Let's grow as musicians
19:11to the public
19:12so that he would learn
19:13to be valued
19:15the different genres
19:16to take over the city
19:18thank
19:19which
19:20free of charge
19:21He was
19:22providing
19:23No?
19:24Dear Colombia
19:26dear Bogotá
19:28how gorgeous
19:30to be able to be
19:30today
19:31today with you
19:32today, the anniversary
19:34apart from 25 years
19:35of this festival
19:36incredible
19:37that celebrates
19:38diversity
19:40of so much music
19:42the mayoral offices
19:43pass
19:43the governments
19:44pass
19:44but the festival
19:45is left over
19:45but we hope
19:47No?
19:47that it remains
19:47May it continue for many years
19:48and also
19:49nothing
19:50congratulate him
19:51Because it's wonderful
19:52and we know
19:52which precisely
19:53with the vicissitudes
19:56that we have to go through
19:56above all
19:57in Latin America
19:58that we don't have
19:58maybe
19:59the conditions
20:00either
20:01the context
20:02sometimes
20:02in order to be able to
20:03do something
20:03of such magnitude
20:04that have
20:06able to arrive
20:06now to be
20:07celebrating 30 years
20:08It's one thing
20:08truly wonderful
20:10and that deserves
20:10the oldest
20:11of the
20:12praise
20:12and finally
20:13for the movement
20:14for the scene
20:15Bogota
20:15and Colombian
20:16Well, it has been
20:17an important
20:18platform
20:19to make known
20:19their proposals
20:20to get to know each other
20:22self-recognition
20:23throughout the environment
20:24Latin American
20:25not only
20:26knowing what we do
20:26Colombian rock
20:27but it differentiates us
20:28which is special
20:29we provide
20:30with which we compete
20:31internationally
20:32Congratulations also
20:33Let's tell everyone
20:35the organizations
20:36that were generated
20:37around the festival
20:38as a peacekeeping force
20:39which was a group
20:40of those boys
20:41who attended
20:42to the first
20:43concerts
20:44young music
20:44who then stayed
20:46and supported
20:46and they became
20:47in an organization
20:49who supported
20:50initial logistics
20:51of all the festivals
20:52which later
20:53became
20:54on 911
20:54of all these entities
20:57for me
20:57It's a joy
20:58total
20:59immense
21:00as really
21:01not only
21:02transformed the city
21:03transformed
21:04public policy
21:05transformed
21:06behaviors
21:07and the festival
21:08Rock al Parque
21:10definitely
21:11It's a factor
21:12which is part
21:14of identity
21:16of this city
21:16where a city
21:18diverse and inclusive
21:19has the possibility
21:21to maintain
21:21an open space
21:23where there is a meeting
21:24between different
21:25I hope
21:27may it last for many more years
21:28long life
21:29for rock al parque
21:30I'll be keeping a close eye on things.
21:32sissy
21:32very attentive
21:33of everything that happens
21:34with rock in the park
21:36I've always been
21:37and this is not
21:38the exception
21:48the exception
21:50of the exception
21:55of the exception
21:57Thank you!