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Fernandes and Tonali can play better - De Zerbi
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Fernandes and Tonali can play better - De Zerbi
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00:00Hi, Roberto. I want to ask you about Conor Gallagher.
00:05Last season, when you were showing some of your players YouTube videos to get them going again,
00:12Conor said later that you showed him a video that was called Bossing the Midfield with Conor Gallagher.
00:17How did you get him back to bossing the midfield?
00:20But listen, even if he doesn't play every game, I love him because he's a generous, smart player,
00:34he has the right mentality.
00:38And then there are other things in football, the characteristics.
00:42And you have to understand before the game, because after the game is easier,
00:48but before the game you have to understand what is the best characteristics you need for that game.
00:58And when Conor has not played, it has been because I needed different characteristics just for that.
01:12The Aston Villa game last season was crucial to save him and take from relegation.
01:18Conor scored the first goal in that game. I remember right.
01:24It seems he's somewhat underappreciated or do you feel like sometimes he could be underappreciated?
01:30And can he provide that creative spark that the team beat?
01:47But for me, no. It's not underappreciated.
01:52Maybe for other coaches or other people for me, no.
01:58I think when I came last season, Conor didn't play until my sign.
02:14And when I came, he played every game.
02:20Normally, last season maybe we needed different things, no?
02:26We had less competition on the squad, but I love him.
02:33He's my player. I know he's a reliable player.
02:38When I call him, he's always ready to play, to fight, to run.
02:46From myself, no.
02:47And just lastly, last season, the club were advertising for a sports psychologist.
02:54I think that somebody got hired in that role.
02:57I just wonder what kind of impact...
02:58You have to ask Vinay or Johan Lang. I'm not the club, I'm a coach.
03:03Send out an email and ask if they are...
03:09Yeah, Mino as well.
03:11I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
03:13Sincerely, I don't know.
03:14I think the club is working to do the best and to put the players in the best condition they
03:24can.
03:28But I don't know about this part.
03:36Have you had a period in your coaching career before where your teams have found it difficult to score?
03:45No, never.
03:50Never.
03:52I conceded many goals, maybe, but to score, no.
03:57But I think it's a casuality.
04:00It's a coincidence.
04:02Coincidence, yes.
04:04I think, I think, I think so, because if we score four goals, four or five in Liverpool,
04:14I think Bergwahl and Kudus in the first half, in the second half Marmouche a couple of times,
04:21more the goals we scored with Gallagher.
04:26I think nine chances to score in Anfield are not so few, no?
04:37And also with Everton, not so many chances so clear.
04:46But a couple of chances clear and another three, four potential clear chances to score.
04:59And even when we are not scoring, I can't change the opinion about the players, the qualities of the players.
05:06Because Marmouche is a fantastic player. Savio is a fantastic player.
05:11Solanqui, when Solanqui is fit, is very good, very good player.
05:16Marmouche, Madison, Kudus, Gallagher and Mateus with different characteristics.
05:28All of four of these players are very good.
05:31We have maybe the best or the best fullbacks, fullbacks in Premier League.
05:45Maybe the best because Robertson, Eudoge and Pedro Poro, they are the first level.
05:53Well, the central back are five, one better than the other.
06:00I think the qualities of the players, so far I can't say nothing different.
06:07Have you found yourself waking up, thinking of new ways to try and change?
06:18No, sometimes, look, sometimes you have to change everything.
06:25Sometimes you have to improve what you already are doing.
06:31And sometimes you have to stay calm.
06:34I think we are working to improve what we have to do better.
06:42But also we have to stay calm.
06:45Because I know if and but are not the right words.
06:51But now we have two points on the table.
06:56And for the performance we have done, I think we could have more than two points, from my perspective.
07:05One more if and but, if I may.
07:08You sold Will Lancia to Middlesbrough.
07:12He scored eight goals in ten games.
07:16Was it a mistake?
07:19No, I think no.
07:20No, I think no.
07:21Because Solanqui is a good player.
07:23Marmouche is another good player.
07:25And then there was the Richarlison situation different of the Richarlison situation changed in the last five days without my
07:51decision.
07:56Without that, may you have kept?
08:04Three strikers.
08:05How many strikers do you want in the squad?
08:07Three strikers, I think, are enough to answer the player in Middlesbrough, no?
08:18You mentioned that it's important to stay calm.
08:21I just wondered if you have done anything specific to try and help them stay calm
08:26or maybe take them away from the adults who try and help them in the game?
08:39No, the first day after Liverpool, the first day, I didn't speak with the players too much.
08:49Otherwise, you know, the voice of coaches is not every day.
08:53But yesterday we worked well with the players who didn't play or they played 90 minutes.
09:02And today we stayed together, we stayed at Lodge and we prepared the game, the normal game.
09:11Normally we want to win, we want to win scoring many goals.
09:20Everyone wants to win tomorrow, no?
09:26Given quite how much change there was in the summer,
09:30I mean, you mentioned earlier that Asperger had been a similar process to Spurs.
09:55I think it's not a challenge, it's a plan.
09:59Or you follow the plan or you have not planned in your head.
10:07I think our club is working very well in transfer market.
10:12We could play, we could do better for sure, but we could do worse.
10:17Of course, transfer market is also, you don't know the beginning before to start the season,
10:28if you have worked well or not.
10:30I think we worked very well, not well.
10:35We didn't start in the best way we can.
10:40I said for many reasons and now I think we have to improve.
10:45We have to help the new players to come inside.
10:49Also, Tonali, Mateus Fernandes, I think they can play much better,
10:54but we have to help them to come inside better,
10:59to understand the club, to understand everything.
11:06For example, JP Van Eyck after the first two games not so well.
11:14He's playing now in the last three, four games very well.
11:22Marmouche in Liverpool played maybe the best game with Tottenham.
11:28Savio after injury, I think he's ready to play as a Savio.
11:38Robertson with Everton played maybe the best player on the pitch.
11:45Tosine, Senesi, I think they played very well in Liverpool.
11:50So there are no problems for the new players.
11:54No, I think we started late, for many reasons late.
12:04But we worked more and harder to regain the gap.
12:15Can I ask about Sandro Tonali, how much more are you expecting from him?
12:23He's a good guy, he's working very hard and I'm happy to have Sandro.
12:31We are lucky to have Sandro with us.
12:37The adaptation has been not so fast, but can happen also in Milan the first season.
12:51He was younger, but it's not so easy to change the city, to change everything for the players.
13:02Sometimes it's immediately.
13:04The changement of adaptation is immediate and sometimes you need more time.
13:12But I think also Tonali with Everton played well.
13:17What is the adaptation?
13:20A lot of that.
13:22Yes, I said.
13:23City, the club, the style of play, everything.
13:28What is your specific idea for him?
13:30Do you see him as a midfielder who builds the player from deep?
13:35Or do you want him to be a kind of box-to-box player?
13:37Yeah, he can play in both situations.
13:40Because his physical characteristics are to play box-to-box.
13:46But he started the career as a playmaker.
13:49He's good enough with the ball.
13:51He's good enough without the ball.
13:54He's a complete midfielder.
13:56Like Bergvall, like Mateus Fernandes.
14:04They are very close.
14:06Not as a characteristic, but I think these three players, they have all characteristics of the modern midfielder.
14:18Have you talked to him about his price tag, the transfer, to try and reduce the pressure?
14:23Is that something you think?
14:23No, he doesn't feel the pressure about that.
14:29I spoke here.
14:30You did speak to him about it.
14:31What?
14:32You said you did speak to him about it.
14:33Yes, yes, but 15 days, 20 days ago, no, no.
14:40Can I just ask more generally?
14:41We saw in the summer that midfielders like Sonali, Fernandes, Bruno Guimaraes, Enzo Fernandes
14:47are going for really big feet.
14:49I know it's not your responsibility, but why do you think…
14:51Anderson?
14:52As well.
14:53Boadi?
14:54Why do you think central midfielders are so prized now?
15:00Good question.
15:02Maybe the best question you've asked me today.
15:08But it's difficult to find that answer.
15:13I don't know.
15:15For sure, midfield position is crucial.
15:18No, it's…
15:21But there are many good midfielders.
15:26I don't know the price, if it's so high, because there are not many midfielders, because
15:33I think there are many midfielders.
15:36Maybe the first level, like Sandro, like Bruno Guimaraes, like Reis two years ago, or Enzo Fernandes,
15:48also Baleba and Andre Santos.
15:53It's a good question, but I can't say…
15:55I don't know all answers.
15:59Sometimes, I don't know.
16:00I have to…
16:03Raise up in my arms.
16:04And I don't know.
16:04I was just wondering, is it the physicality of the Premier League?
16:09Do you think the central midfielders really have a strong emphasis in terms of the duels and the running?
16:19Yes, but Bernardo Silva played in Manchester City and he won everything playing in midfield position.
16:29And I think he has not a big physicality.
16:34I don't know.
16:35It depends on the style of play.
16:39It depends on many things.
16:43Sam to finish, please.
16:45Hi Roberto.
16:45Just a few more on Tonali.
16:48But, playing well against Everton, he's taking more responsibility in possession.
16:50You talk about…
16:51Who?
16:52Tonali?
16:53In…
16:53Against Everton.
16:54Ah, yes.
16:56You talk about players needing to block mentally.
16:59Is that something that you can say of Sandro?
17:01No, no, no.
17:03I don't want to speak about block mentally because the football is if you score and if you find
17:12the goal, when you create chances, because from the sky it's impossible to find the goal.
17:23But if you create a chance and you don't score, maybe you can suffer.
17:28But I, at the moment, I have not seen block mentally.
17:36I have seen maybe not the best physical condition, maybe not the best quality of the play, forgetting
17:48the last two games.
17:49I think we…
17:53We have done a good defensive phase because…
18:00Nottingham Forest with us.
18:02They didn't shoot.
18:05And they create eight chances to score against Villa.
18:11Like Everton.
18:15I think not the block, the mental block, no.
18:18Maybe, like I said, maybe we started late and we are fighting to regain the gap.
18:31And then against, against Forest, his performance out of possession was really good.
18:34Is there more to come from here in the final third, in an attack in the seventh?
18:45Yes.
18:46The last third, ok.
18:48We came to create more chances.
18:50But in Liverpool we did.
18:52In any way we didn't score.
18:55I think…
18:57I think…
18:57Sometimes it's like…
18:59Let's say…
19:01The word in English is a little bit more of light.
19:09I think…
19:13Not too much, but…
19:17The light enough to be clear, to be calm when you have the chance to score, when you have
19:25to take the decision, calm, to take and confidence to take the best decision you can.
19:32I think it's important, no?
19:35Yeah.
19:36And then finally, with Lucas-Berg, you talked about sort of putting an arm round his shoulder.
19:40When it comes to Sandro, is that the same sort of thing or is it different?
19:52Well, he played very well.
19:56I think Bergvall is not a problem.
20:00Bergvall and Tonali, they can play together, they can stay on the bench both.
20:05They can play one and the other, no?
20:08I don't know.
20:09The most important is when they played, when Lucas played, he has to play like the last
20:17two games, because also with Everton he played well in the last part of the game.
20:24Okay.
20:26Bye-bye.
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