00:00Forra! Forra! Forra!
00:29Forra! Forra!
01:00We have the decreasing numbers, but images from Theuta, of course, overshadow the actual successes and the actual facts and
01:10figures.
01:11This is, of course, not good. Of course not.
01:15And we all saw the pictures and they, of course, fuel the far right again and sort of the approach
01:23of the far right.
01:23And that's why it is so important to return those people as soon as possible, to show that we have
01:31control, that our systems actually work.
01:33And it was a stress test for the European Union, definitely, and for our systems and for our resilience also.
01:39But it actually works. It worked. Our rules actually work.
01:44This is important to show the people in Europe that we have control and we haven't had more control over
01:52illegal migration ever, probably, than now.
01:56Why isn't a tougher approach reducing support for the far right?
02:01Well, I think we have to communicate better. What do I mean with this?
02:05The numbers are completely different than the perception sometimes.
02:10So what we achieved with our reforms is, I think, quite remarkable.
02:15The numbers of illegal migration are going down.
02:18We had a decrease of 55% in the last two years, another 37% in the first months this
02:26year.
02:27So it's going in the right direction, but we have probably to communicate these good numbers a little bit better.
02:33A point of view ...
02:45You
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