00:01Good evening to Pubblico Porta a Porta, good evening to Silvia Sardone, to Mario Selchi who from Tuesday will be the director of the
00:07'Dire news agency.
00:10Don't argue with Federico Fubini, of course, it's not like that, but it's not like you can make the selection on the automedia if
00:19there was a rich man, if there was one from the middle class.
00:22There is the car, the road tax is a tax that everyone knows would be paid sooner or later in some way
00:28It was cut by someone, Meloni arrived, the left is visibly taken aback by the operation, one can even agree
00:38certainly it is also an electoral operation and I challenge anyone to say that any government of any colour does not do
00:44electoral operations, but it's a move that works, let's face it.
00:50This is the real point, it is a move that comes at a time when, mind you, you also have to do
00:56the budget law, so in reality it is a first move because there will be another one and it is a
01:02a move that comes, as Fubini knows well, at a time when we probably have more fiscal space because we are leaving the
01:09infringement procedure, perhaps.
01:14But the point of cutting flat taxes is who could perhaps afford to pay those 15 euros
01:20he won't stop messing around every month.
01:22Don't make a continuous class struggle on everything, this is a context, but I have a sense of progressive taxation
01:29or equal to everyone, if we all pay the same, the poor might pay more.
01:33When a car with such a high KV is exempted from road tax, it is on...
01:43But let's also say it hits...
01:46We also do...
01:47I'm evaluating a tangible effect.
01:48Then if you have 4-5 cars you're happy, but you should know that there are people who use cars.
01:54Imagine a car owner who suddenly finds himself up to 240 euros cheaper.
02:00The year, huh?
02:01I understand, but it's money.
02:04For ordinary people, for the so-called upper class, it's money.
02:10I don't understand how one can contest this measure, which is a tangible, popular, intelligent measure from the point of view
02:21political.
02:21Cynical, very much.
02:23Because cynicism is not a negative category in politics, sometimes you have to be because otherwise you make mistakes,
02:32mistakes due to an excess of goodism, mistakes due to an excess of badism.
02:36Cynicism helps, sometimes. In politics, it also leads to intelligent choices. One must read Machiavelli carefully.
02:43We Italians have forgotten this.
02:45It wasn't a heatwave, the one in healthcare, which is basically the main expenditure item for the regions is healthcare.
02:51So if we go to touch...
02:52She's right, but let's not touch...
02:54But the opposition really wants to argue that Meloni abolishes the car tax and there will be one less attack.
03:03The opposition wants to go and do this campaign, it's ridiculous.
03:07Yeah, now that's a problem.
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