00:00To say it, I was the first CEO to come out, not in the software industry, to say the end
00:06of software is nonsense.
00:08This is going to be a layer on top of software.
00:11This was a layer on top of software.
00:14This new layer on top of software is going to be agentic.
00:16It's going to make you use the software so much better.
00:20And so that's the first idea.
00:22The second idea is AI is going to destroy jobs.
00:27That's also completely nonsense.
00:28These models, you've had some time to think about what everybody is saying and kind of bring it all down
00:34to us and explain, you know, how do you see that?
00:37Well, safety is paramount.
00:39In a lot of ways, it's job one.
00:42However, safety is an engineering problem.
00:45We're developing software after all.
00:47We're developing computing systems after all.
00:48It's a complicated computing system, but it's ultimately a computing system.
00:52And so the first thing is to make sure that we create the test environments for testing these complex systems.
01:00And those test environments have to be built in a good way, built in a safe way.
01:04And then the second thing is we have to test these products.
01:07If we're not confident about the safety of the products, like all companies, like you and I, any, any, all
01:15the companies here, if you build a product or a service and you're not confident in its functionality, capability or
01:22safety, then don't release it.
01:24And so that's a very obvious thing to do.
01:27You pace yourself until you are confident you're releasing something that the market would appreciate.
01:33The market forces are already there.
01:35We don't need any new laws.
01:36We don't need new regulations.
01:38We just need companies to decide that when it's, you know, run as fast as they can.
01:45I think innovation speed and safe products are not, it's a false choice.
01:51You could definitely have both at the same time.
01:53So run as fast as you can.
01:55But if you feel at any given point in time the company's out of control or the product's not going
02:00to be safe, you know, take a pause and make sure you get it right.
02:03Give us your state of the AI industry and pacing and where your mind is right now.
02:09Yeah, I think it's maybe easiest to explain it by an analogy.
02:13So let's say you're running a car company and another car company, not yours, they have some kind of safety
02:19incident, right?
02:20Something goes wrong with the brakes, you know, something with the manufacturing.
02:24Now, you believe you have the best safety record in the industry.
02:28What do you do?
02:28How do you approach it?
02:29Obviously, it's very tempting to attack your competitor and say, these guys are unsafe, we're safe.
02:34But I think the more responsible way to respond to it is to say, hey, first of all, let's look
02:41at our own record, right?
02:42We may not have had this big high profile incident, but I'm sure we're not perfect.
02:46Let's look at everything and we can always be better.
02:48Let's make our practices better.
02:51Let's recommit to transparency.
02:53Let's invest more in safety.
02:55Then let's organize the rest of the industry and say, what can we do to set standards for everyone?
03:00What can we do to make everyone's standards better?
03:03And then finally, there should be an international component to it.
03:06And that's essentially the three-step plan that I laid out in the essay, the first of which we committed
03:13to and the others of which we're going to have a dialogue with the rest of the industry about.
03:18And I think that's the way to lead the industry forward, to set an example, to say that everyone can
03:25always be better.
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