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Europe Today: EU-Wirtschaftskommissar Dombrovskis bei Euronews, 25 Jahre nach 9/11

25 Jahre nach den Anschlägen vom 11. September blicken wir auf ihre Folgen für USA und Welt. Dazu exklusive Interviews mit Dombrovskis, Barth Eide und da Costa e Silva.

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00:15Stefan Grobe
00:15Guten Morgen! Ja, es ist Friday, September 11.
00:18Du bist Euronews und das ist EUROPE TODAY.
00:23Willkommen im Programm, ich bin Stefan Grobe.
00:2725 Jahre alt, die Welt warst in horror, als Amerika kam unter attack.
00:32Nearly 3,000 Menschen wurden auf September 11, 2001, in ein Event, das verändert die Geschichte.
00:39Heute, die USA und die Welt erinnern die victims und erinnern ihre Erinnerung.
00:44Aber die Geschichte des 9-11 still shapes unsere Politik, unsere Sicherheit und unser Welt.
00:49A quarter of a century später, wir zurückkommen, die das alles verändert.
00:54Und alles.
00:55French President Macron und EU Commission President von der Leyen
00:58called on Europe to strengthen its space industry at the International Space Summit in Paris.
01:04Macron described Europe's space sector as fragile
01:07und emphasized the need to bolster its capabilities,
01:10calling for shared governance of the industry.
01:14Von der Leyen emphasized the crucial role space plays,
01:17both in terms of scientific exploration,
01:20but also defense, pointing to Russia's war in Ukraine.
01:24And as Russia's war in Ukraine intensifies,
01:27Moscow's aggression is spilling beyond its borders,
01:30from drone incursions to suspected cable cuts.
01:33UNIUS' EU correspondent Angelus Kuchin spoke exclusively to Kirillou Budanov,
01:39head of the office of the president of Ukraine at the Riga conference,
01:43asking whether the Baltic states are getting the Russian threats right.
01:49Currently, it is not only the Baltic states,
01:52but also, for example, central European countries
01:55that are facing certain aggressive forms of hybrid threats
01:58from the Russian Federation in the form of targeted operations.
02:02That was Kirillou Budanov speaking to Angelus Kuchin.
02:05And now let's go live to Riga,
02:08where UNIUS' EU editor Maria Tadeo is standing by for us.
02:12Good morning, Maria.
02:13What's the latest there?
02:16Good morning, Stefan.
02:18And you played those words from Burinos,
02:20the head of the office of the president of Ukraine,
02:22telling a panel discussion here in Riga
02:24that if you are European and you don't want to deal with Russia,
02:27then deal with Ukraine.
02:29They have paid, quote, in treasure and blood.
02:32Also pointing to that wartime experience.
02:34A lot more coy when asked directly
02:36whether he believed an attack on the Baltics is likely and coming.
02:41To that point, I spoke with the commissioner for the economy,
02:45Valdez Zembrovskis himself from Latvia.
02:47We spoke about European security,
02:49but also funding for Ukraine,
02:51where he told me at this stage,
02:53the EU and the IMF are still crunching the numbers
02:56to figure out what Ukraine will need.
02:58Look into that funding gap going into 2027.
03:01Let's take a look.
03:03We're having here Eastern border with Russia,
03:07and we see that Russia is an aggressor state,
03:09waging full-scale war in Ukraine
03:12and openly talking about invading other countries.
03:15So we cannot be complacent.
03:17We need to do preparedness.
03:19We need to have stronger also EU and NATO presence in the region
03:24to have also a credible deterrent against any Russia's plan.
03:29In a sense, the stronger and the more credible deterrents will be,
03:32the less chance there will be of any Russian aggression.
03:35When you look at the situation now, are you more concerned that you were, let's say,
03:40before the summer, because there was a letter that you also did sign with a number of other commissioners
03:45from from like countries saying the picture has deteriorated.
03:47Is that how you feel when you come here?
03:50You say the perception of a threat is not just a perception.
03:53There's something that has changed.
03:55Well, we see no signs of Russia willing to engage in any meaningful peace process.
04:04What we see is actually the contrary.
04:07Russia is ramping up its military production.
04:10It's strengthening its military industrial complex.
04:12There are talks on mobilization of Russia.
04:15And the question is where all this weaponry and all those troops will march.
04:19So you say you don't believe at this point that the war can end at real negotiations this year?
04:25Well, I very much wish so.
04:29But currently we do not see any credible signs of engagement from the Russian side.
04:33And that takes us to the support and the money question for the Ukrainians.
04:37It is clear now that it's the EU that is going to have to really do the heavy lifting here.
04:43And the bill is not smaller. It's getting bigger.
04:45You had conversations with your Ukrainian counterparts or prime minister too.
04:49What do you see?
04:51Indeed, we had these discussions with our Ukrainian counterparts,
04:55including myself with Prime Minister Koretsky earlier this week.
04:59So we are now, in a sense, in strong engagement with Ukrainian authorities,
05:06finance ministry to, in a sense, to pin down exact financing needs,
05:10to understand what exactly is driving those financing needs and to seek solutions.
05:15And you mentioned the payments and this loan.
05:18There was a loan that was essentially paid out of pocket by the European countries.
05:22They agreed this was going to be two years.
05:23We heard the president of Ukraine saying the payments will have to be accelerated.
05:27There's now an open question about upfront payments.
05:31Is that something that you think is justified?
05:33And do you worry what was budgeted for two years may not last more than a year?
05:39Well, first of all, we need to find out exactly these additional financing needs
05:45and then discuss with the Ukrainian authorities how we are financing them.
05:50They are still open questions.
05:53We have this engagement.
05:54We do it also in coordination with IMF.
05:57But then the question is that already in this Ukraine support loan regulation,
06:04we foresaw the possibility to do some adjustments of this funding if this is necessary.
06:11So such a possibility is foreseen.
06:13To that, I have to ask you some final question.
06:16The idea of the Russian frozen assets.
06:18We see there's now a push by a number of European countries to revive the idea.
06:23Would you be in favor?
06:25Well, from European Commission side, we are certainly ready to engage in this discussion.
06:30As you know, already last year we came forward with a concrete legislative proposal to use those assets.
06:36Unfortunately, member states were not able to agree on this, mainly because of the resistance of Belgium.
06:42But we certainly are ready to re-engage those discussions, seek those additional reassurances which may be needed,
06:49and to help find a way forward.
06:51What is it going to take for the Commission to put it back on the table?
06:54A signal from Belgium, the French, the Italians, the ECB saying they're willing to explore it now?
06:59What will it take?
07:00Well, I cannot now give you no kind of exact triggers, but as I said, we are ready to engage
07:08in this discussion,
07:09and to put this question back on the table.
07:15Maria Tadeo there speaking to Valdes Dombrowskis in Riga.
07:19Tensions have risen between Brussels and Brazil after the European Commission suspended imports
07:25of Brazilian meat and other food products over concerns about antimicrobial substances used in production.
07:32The Brazilian authorities have expressed indignation at the lack of dialogue before the measures were adopted.
07:39Our correspondent Marek Gwynne sat down with Brazil's ambassador to the EU, Pedro Miguel da Costa e Silva.
07:45She asked him whether he believed the two sides could strike a deal to reverse the ban,
07:50and if not, whether Brazil could consider countermeasures.
07:54We believe in dialogue. We believe in cooperation.
07:58We are one of the biggest providers of agri-food products in the world.
08:03We have a lot of quality, so we are very confident in what we send to the European market.
08:08And I'm very confident and hopeful that we will be back on the list soon on the first phase for
08:15some of the products,
08:17I think poultry and honey, and I hope that soon after the rest of the products.
08:23Do you fear that this episode could have somehow emboldened those people who have been against the EU-Mercosur deal,
08:32which is a trade deal between the EU and Brazil and other Latin American countries,
08:36that it could have encouraged them somehow to see that there might be a way to prevent these kind of
08:42inputs from coming into the European market?
08:46You have touched on a very sensitive point,
08:49because I do fear that this episode and this issue is going to be distorted.
08:57People are going to say, oh, Brazil does not comply with our regulations.
09:01Brazilian products do not have the same quality.
09:04They are a risk.
09:06And none of this is true, because if you look objectively at what we're talking about,
09:11in no way has the EU said that our products have a problem in terms of quality.
09:17The important thing is to make sure that this doesn't get distorted,
09:21that people who are against the agreement and people who are against Brazil being here
09:26and competing with us will distort this and transform this into, again, another part of this disinformation campaign against Brazil,
09:35that we do not have quality, that we do not comply.
09:38And all this, I think, does a lot of harm to the EU-Brazil relation.
09:44And it also creates a problem in terms of the EU-Mercosur agreement.
09:49And if you cannot come to resolution through these talks and the ban remains in place,
09:56do you fear it could somehow undermine or jeopardize the broader EU-Mercosur deal in any way?
10:03I hope that we can quickly solve this, because if you look at the products that are involved,
10:10these were sensitive products that were the object of quotas.
10:14I was one of the negotiators of the agreement.
10:16And I know how much we paid in terms of, if you want, for these quotas, in terms of the
10:22negotiation.
10:23So if we stop exporting bovine meat, poultry, honey, we are losing.
10:29There's a reversal of expectations of what we thought the agreement was going to be for us.
10:34So there is frustration on the part of the Brazilian producers.
10:39And I don't want to not respond to what you asked me about countermeasures or whatever.
10:44That's not how we operate.
10:46We prefer dialogue. We prefer cooperation.
10:50But if we need to go down another road, we will.
10:55But this is not the time to speculate about that, not to anticipate that.
11:03Brazil's ambassador, Pedro Miguel da Costa e Silva, speaking to Merit Quinn.
11:07Let's go back to Maria Tadeo in Riga now.
11:10Maria, you spoke to Norway's foreign minister, Espy Bart Eide.
11:15Tell us all about it.
11:18Yeah, I did, Stefan.
11:20And this is an interview in a week in which 11 countries, including Norway,
11:24but also the United Kingdom and France have announced sanctions on Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
11:30Norway's foreign minister telling me, quote, this is fully justified.
11:34He also said Israel should now listen and change course.
11:37But added some very strong words.
11:40This is the most far right government in the history of Israel.
11:43It has now taken the country in a very dangerous path.
11:46Let's take a look.
11:48It is absolutely not true that this in any way is a reward for terrorism.
11:52This is a strong signal of support for all those Palestinians who want to have a decent Palestinian state
11:58that signed up once upon a time to the agreement that there should be a two-state solution.
12:03These are the people who rejected violence.
12:05The Palestinian Authority has nothing to do with Hamas, who is actually their enemy.
12:10And this is a support to the moderate Palestinians.
12:13But we cannot see this extreme settler activity where you have violence against people,
12:19against livestock, against houses, you know, really removing every possibility of life
12:26in large parts of what is, you know, legally Palestinian land to promote settlements.
12:32And I'm very happy that the United Kingdom and Canada and France and several other countries
12:37have come to the place where countries like Norway and Spain already were a long time ago.
12:43So this was a strong statement to Israel. They should take it seriously.
12:46You speak about the UK.
12:48The reaction from this rally has been to say you need to close down the consulate
12:51within 30 days from Jerusalem.
12:54To me, that really doesn't sound like a country that is going to change course.
13:00The Netanyahu government is the most far right government in Israel's history.
13:06Elections are coming. Let's see what the Israelis choose in this election.
13:10But that government, in my view, has driven Israel into a very dangerous place.
13:15I think that because I very much care about Israel, I'm inspired by Israel.
13:20I know Israel quite well, just like I am inspired by the Palestinian community.
13:24I think the only way to live normal, peaceful life in that region is that they agree to have a
13:30two-state solution
13:31to delineate what is Palestinian, what is Israeli, and then the Israeli state as a Jewish homeland can continue.
13:38So I believe that what we are doing, although it might seem rough for some Israelis right now,
13:42is also a commitment to peace for Israel itself.
13:45But just as a final point, so this is clear, you mentioned the election.
13:48Obviously, it will be the Israeli people who will have to decide who leads Israel.
13:52But do you hope, whatever the outcome, that there will be a change, of course,
13:57because it does not look like from the ground, as it stands, that much of this will prompt action.
14:02So it's not my job to tell other countries who to elect that for the Israelis.
14:07But I do hope that whatever happens there,
14:09Israel at one point understands that they've been on a very dangerous track.
14:14And with that the Yemen government that's possible?
14:17That Israel, whatever government, understands that they have been losing so much support.
14:22They had tremendous support after 7th of October across the world.
14:27There was a lot of understanding for the need to defend against terrorist attacks.
14:32But the way that they have done this, you know, with more than 70,000 people killed,
14:37including 20,000 children, the total destruction of most of Gaza,
14:40it's a blatant violation of international law, of international human rights law,
14:44of international humanitarian law.
14:46And the problem has been that too many countries have been careful in criticizing Israel
14:51because you were so easily attacked by being anti-Semitic, which is a very...
14:55That has been a factor, you think?
14:57I think that has led to less daring positions.
15:01And since we started this interview with Ukraine, I want to say that the West has been very firm and
15:08clear
15:09and good on saying that Ukraine is the victim of a Russian aggression.
15:13But we would be more credible if we stood up for international law everywhere against all people, you know, all
15:21times.
15:22And I think by being so wobbly and so unclear and so unprincipled in the dealing with the Middle East,
15:29I think that's undermined the credibility of the West.
15:35Maria Tadeo in Riga, thank you very much.
15:3925 years. 25 years already.
15:43I'm sure you still remember where you were on that day.
15:47A quarter century after the attacks of September 11, 2001,
15:51the images remain etched into the world's collective memory.
15:55Nearly 3,000 people were killed in New York, Washington and near Shanksville, Pennsylvania that day.
16:02A traumatic experience that changed America and reshaped global politics.
16:07So 25 years later, what is the legacy of 9-11 and what lessons should we still be learning?
16:14Joining me now to discuss this is Anthony Gardner,
16:18former U.S. Ambassador to the European Union during the second Obama administration.
16:22Good morning, sir. Great to have you on the show.
16:25Good morning. Good to see you again, Stefan.
16:27So how fundamentally did 9-11 change the United States and did it change the world just as profoundly?
16:36I think it did.
16:38I remember where I was that day.
16:40Like many of us, I was in a conference room in the office in London.
16:44We were all called down to a room where the television was on and we felt shock.
16:49Of course, we felt anger, but we also felt unity.
16:53We were a very united country then.
16:56Today, unfortunately, we're a very polarized country, which of course is a shame.
16:59But I think to answer your question, there are probably three or so big takeaways for me.
17:05One of them is the power of asymmetric warfare.
17:09We saw what damage a small but determined radicalized group of terrorists can do with few tools at their disposal
17:20against a much more powerful force.
17:22And we're seeing that again today.
17:24All these years later, we're seeing it, of course, in the Middle East.
17:29We're seeing it in the Persian Gulf, where Iran is still continuing to inflict damage against the United States after
17:38taking a beating.
17:38We're seeing the power of asymmetric warfare in Ukraine, where the Ukrainians are holding out against a much larger force.
17:47But we're another takeaway is that, you know, military force is not enough to defeat terrorism.
17:54The idea that we can defeat terrorism just using power is, I think, misguided.
17:58We're going to we need financial economic means.
18:01We need diplomacy.
18:02We need culture and so forth.
18:03And the other part of what makes it happen is that A.I. is going to make asymmetric warfare even
18:08more relevant.
18:09And very quickly, the second takeaway for me is that the United States just can't retreat into a cocoon.
18:16We may lose interest in the world, but the world is not going to lose interest in us.
18:20And the third is that, you know, in the 9-11 report, I was struck at all the information we
18:26were receiving about a possible attack.
18:28And we just didn't manage to process that information fast enough.
18:32For a generation that did not experience that day firsthand, the younger ones, why does 9-11 still matter?
18:42Well, 9-11 still matters for the young for the reasons I think I alluded to, is that the world
18:47is full of risks that will affect the United States.
18:53I'm here thinking about climate change or migration or various types of pandemics and so forth.
19:01The idea that we can retreat into our own borders is simply wrong because all of those risks that have
19:07a transnational impact will have an effect on the United States.
19:12And that's why we need the tools I mentioned, not just military.
19:16And if there is one lesson from 9-11 that political leaders should remember today, what is it?
19:24Well, I think as cooperation, we forget that this was a good example of how countries came together.
19:33Our allies immediately expressed support for us.
19:38And, of course, it was the United States principally that defeated that threat and captured Osama bin Laden.
19:46But allies came to our aid at that point.
19:50And we need to remember that we need allies to defend against these kind of threats in the future.
19:56All right, Ambassador Gardner, thank you so much for coming on the show today.
20:00And that's it for today.
20:02Enjoy your weekend.
20:03I'm Stefan Grobe.
20:04See you soon.
20:16Bye.
20:17Bye.
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