00:00and also also but Craig wanted to start in the studio to begin with and the
00:05recording studio so that was really the first time we connected and which was
00:10really nice because it's a very you know quiet and you're quite vulnerable when
00:15you're in a recording studio and you make a lot of mistakes and you you know
00:19make some decisions and go oh that wasn't very good and so it was it was
00:23great to break the ice that way and then
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