00:00What's the right balance? Also, I think your daughter's playing rugby as well.
00:03Yeah. Between sort of saying, you know, it's OK to lose on the one hand
00:06and the taking part in matters and being, you know, one of those tiger parents.
00:10No, but no, it's getting the balance right and I don't think I'd ever be pushy.
00:14If you ever play anything, you have to play to win.
00:17That's just... But then how you can react to not winning
00:21then changes what you are as a person. You should never enjoy losing,
00:24but you've also got to be able to be, you know,
00:29take it and accept it and move on.
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