00:00When they are individuating and they are challenging everything you say and everything you do and everything you are and
00:05it's that's what it is and you have to kind of just like ride the waves. I feel like it's
00:10like surfing. It's like I'm just riding the waves. Oh, that just got knocked over. Get back on the board.
00:15I'm back. I'm back. It was not unusual. Mark would come home and I'd hear him going, Kel? Kel? And
00:23he would find me like hiding in the closet.
00:26And I'm like, shh. They can't know I'm in here. I understand you more than you know. I know you.
00:32Because you've got 15 year olds. And I think it's particularly hard on moms a little bit. Yes. Definitely. Because
00:37they always kind of love dad. They always are kind of like, dad's the best. You know what? And I
00:41was like that with my dad too. And my mom told me and I'll say it to you right now
00:46on TV for everybody. I understand you so much more now.
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