00:00Considering everything that you boys obviously sadly went through
00:03and the trauma that you experienced,
00:05you know, I do, particularly with work within early intervention
00:08and things like that that I've been doing in the early years,
00:10I do think it's incredible how strong and how you've been able to cope, really.
00:16And I put that down to your really early years, childhood experience.
00:20But also the relationship that you've got.
00:23You're amazingly close.
00:25And, yes, you're not...
00:26Most of the time.
00:27Most of the time.
00:28No, but it's, you know, and some families sadly aren't as lucky as you guys have been
00:33and being able to share things.
00:34But we have been brought closer because of the circumstances as well.
00:37That's the thing.
00:38You know, you are, you know, uniquely bonded because of what we've been through.
00:43But, you know, even Harry and I over the years have not talked enough about, you know, our mother.
00:48You know, we've...
00:48Never enough.
00:49You know, obviously.
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