00:00Kate, all of this is very personal, of course, for you,
00:03and today's a bit of a sweet day, isn't it?
00:05It is. It's actually Derek and I's wedding anniversary today, unbelievably.
00:09I know.
00:10Well, happy wedding anniversary.
00:10Fifteen years today.
00:13Richard and I think Hilary were there on the day, weren't you both?
00:17But, yeah, what an extraordinary thing.
00:21I won't be able to see him today.
00:22I kind of hoped I would, but it hasn't worked out that way for the visits.
00:26But maybe it would be a bit strange anyway.
00:28So, yeah, it's a tough day, but he's still here.
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