00:00And that's the scary thing.
00:01When you believe you don't have a choice.
00:01That's the sad thing.
00:02That's it.
00:03When you believe.
00:03And that's the sad thing for people left behind.
00:05You say, so many people loved you.
00:07Yeah.
00:07You did have a choice.
00:08You could have called me.
00:09Of course.
00:10You could have called mum.
00:11Yeah.
00:11And Caroline had even spoken herself about the fact that she felt like a burden.
00:17And I think it's worth people knowing that that's what's going on in someone's head who
00:22suffers with mental health issues, is that they feel like they're a burden.
00:27It's a freak.
00:27OK.
00:29Well, look.
00:30Obviously, this is just so emotive.
00:32And I think, you know, for lots of people, I just want to say to you, we've got a phone
00:35in later on in the programme.
00:37And, you know, you're listening to what Nicol and Matthew are having to say there.
00:40And...
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